De'Longhi Magnifica ESAM4200 15-Bar Bean to Cup Espresso/Cappuccino Maker - Silver  £199.99 Amazon
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De'Longhi Magnifica ESAM4200 15-Bar Bean to Cup Espresso/Cappuccino Maker - Silver £199.99 Amazon

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Found 31st Mar 2014
Best price ever on Amazon for this (see post immediately below this for price chart).

Stunningly good price for a decently reviewed bean to cup machine - and the 2 year warranty is a bonus.


Stylish bean-to-cup espresso/cappuccino machine with professional 15-bar pump pressure
Suitable for fresh coffee beans, ground coffee
Traditional stainless steel milk frothing arm and built-in burr grinder
Advanced dual boiler system, removable brewing unit and drip tray, active cup warmer and adjustable height dispenser
Bean-to-cup quality with simple 1-touch operation
2 year guarantee

61 Comments

Original Poster

Lowest price ever: [img]charts.camelcamelcamel.com/uk/…png?force=1&zero=0&w=725&h=440&desired=false&legend=1&ilt=1&tp=all&fo=0〈=en[/img]

Matching the best price ever you mean Only kidding, fab price, fab machine-heat added!

Good machine, well worth it.

Amazon seem to be changing the price of this more times than I change my underwear! Great price. Great machine.

Great machine, bought one the last time it was this price (10 days ago :D)

Had to return mine after I realised a £10 french press could make a far superior coffee. There's a reason that no coffee houses have bean to cup machines. In fact I think I'd rather drink Nescafe than use this again.

superdudeo

Had to return mine after I realised a £10 french press could make a far … Had to return mine after I realised a £10 french press could make a far superior coffee. There's a reason that no coffee houses have bean to cup machines. In fact I think I'd rather drink Nescafe than use this again.



Really? Tell me more

superdudeo

Had to return mine after I realised a £10 french press could make a far … Had to return mine after I realised a £10 french press could make a far superior coffee. There's a reason that no coffee houses have bean to cup machines. In fact I think I'd rather drink Nescafe than use this again.



Wow such insight!

What's that reason exactly? This machine makes excellent espresso, if you don't know how to make a decent coffee out of it it's not the fault of the machine.

superdudeo

Had to return mine after I realised a £10 french press could make a far … Had to return mine after I realised a £10 french press could make a far superior coffee. There's a reason that no coffee houses have bean to cup machines. In fact I think I'd rather drink Nescafe than use this again.



Someone didn't know how to use the machine properly... Whilst you are correct that coffee houses do not use bean to cup machines the equipment they do have tends to cost a whole lot more than £200! This machine is a combination of quality / convenience. Yes you probably will get a better coffee if you have a separate burr grinder and espresso machine (an expensive one). But the coffee this does make is pretty darn good in my opinion and to compare it to instant is just well dumb.

It's a pretty good quality burr grinder though, and the espresso comes out reproducibley well, so tbh I can't see the benefit of a separate grinder / espresso machine.

Comparing this to Nescafe instant is daft, agreed.

Excellent machine at a great price. After sales support from De'Longhi UK is very good, when my machine's grinder got jammed, they dealt with it swiftly. Be warned it is a bit loud first thing in the morning

ipswich78

This machine is a combination of quality / convenience.



This is what all the dumb quotes about coffee machines ignore. Yes a airpress/cold press/french press/squeezing beans by hand can give a better espresso, but most people don't have the time to dick around with them.

superdudeo

Had to return mine after I realised a £10 french press could make a far … Had to return mine after I realised a £10 french press could make a far superior coffee. There's a reason that no coffee houses have bean to cup machines. In fact I think I'd rather drink Nescafe than use this again.



What a ridiculous post.

Amazing price. They go for more than this on flee bay!

Can recommend the Andrew James 600ml milk jug as well as a decent accompaniment, sturdy stainless steel jug for doing your steamed 'froth' in

superdudeo

Had to return mine after I realised a £10 french press could make a far … Had to return mine after I realised a £10 french press could make a far superior coffee. There's a reason that no coffee houses have bean to cup machines. In fact I think I'd rather drink Nescafe than use this again.



"A French press, also known as a press pot, coffee press, coffee plunger, cafetière (UK) or сafetière à piston, is a simple coffee brewing device patented by Italian designer Attilio Calimani in 1929."

Have to agree... but my only experience of this machine is a local shop who offer a free coffee when you spend over £10.

It's watery, no flavor, noisy... even on max strength its horrid. Now granted it could be user error, beans, set up etc. but the lad who runs the shop has spent ages setting it up & prefers an instant to this.


I use a Nespresso so do like my coffee and this I didn't enjoy.

This is an excellent machine, had mine for 3yrs or so and makes a delicious daily brew.

Great machine, I bought a used one from ebay and it goes a great espresso once you get the grind, strength and quantity set up just right. I have had a grinder and Gaggia espresso machine set up previous to this and the convenience this offers is unmatched. I've also had Tassimo machines and this is just about as easy as that once set up right.

My tip is to remove the end plastic sleeve from the milk froth wand. Allows a much nicer, richer foam to be made than the loose foam created by having that adaptor on the end - it mixes too much air with the milk.

superdudeo

Had to return mine after I realised a £10 french press could make a far … Had to return mine after I realised a £10 french press could make a far superior coffee. There's a reason that no coffee houses have bean to cup machines. In fact I think I'd rather drink Nescafe than use this again.

Reason being, a separate grinder and coffee maker means you don't have to throw the whole lot should one part fail.
I have this machine. Its ok. Not quite the wonder some here are making it out to be. Design is mediocre- the metal "cup warmer" part on top is nothing of the sort, merely a design feature. It gurgels and grunts more than any home device should, yet makes passable, and more importantly adjustable-to-ones-taste coffee.
Good at this price.

I bought one of these recently following a similar post, very impressed with it and thats just using up my packs of ready ground coffee. next step will be to buy freshly ground coffee beans.

johnthehuman

Can recommend the Andrew James 600ml milk jug as well as a decent … Can recommend the Andrew James 600ml milk jug as well as a decent accompaniment, sturdy stainless steel jug for doing your steamed 'froth' in



I bought that exact one last time! Agreed, it is a good quality jug and the size is perfect imo.

eatmorefish

Reason being, a separate grinder and coffee maker means you don't have … Reason being, a separate grinder and coffee maker means you don't have to throw the whole lot should one part fail.I have this machine. Its ok. Not quite the wonder some here are making it out to be. Design is mediocre- the metal "cup warmer" part on top is nothing of the sort, merely a design feature. It gurgels and grunts more than any home device should, yet makes passable, and more importantly adjustable-to-ones-taste coffee. Good at this price.



If you want to pre-warm the cups you should do it with hot water (and there's a button for that on the machine)

It whirrs when it grinds the coffee, and it chuggs when it pulls the water through.

If you want silence you'll have to boil the water (but don't use the kettle :D) and use a french press.

ipswich78

Someone didn't know how to use the machine properly... Whilst you are … Someone didn't know how to use the machine properly... Whilst you are correct that coffee houses do not use bean to cup machines the equipment they do have tends to cost a whole lot more than £200! This machine is a combination of quality / convenience. Yes you probably will get a better coffee if you have a separate burr grinder and espresso machine (an expensive one). But the coffee this does make is pretty darn good in my opinion and to compare it to instant is just well dumb.



So you assume I didn't know how to use the machine because I have condemned it? I used it for 2 months and passed very high quality beans through it. I know full well how to use it. My opinion is that it produces some sort of poor coffee that cannot be classed as espresso.

Great price for a machine capable of producing pretty damn good coffee at a convenient press of a button, AFTER setting it up right.

I have the next model up (basically the same but digital controls) and with fresh beans and the right grind settings it does make good espresso. If you stick in stale beans and have the grind way to course, yes, it will produce under-extracted pish, as would any coffee house if they did the same thing, bean to cup or not. Also, don't expect to be able to switch between single and double shots without having to readjust the grind, even the coffee houses can't do this. Ever notice they always pour a double even if you only want a single? It's cheaper for them to waste the extra shot that readjust the grind for each drink. I have mine set for a single (double brew if I want a double) and requires the odd adjustment depending how fresh the beans are.

Originally planned to buy a half decent espresso machine and grinder but accepted that the faff would result it in rarely being used. This has replaced all instant in my house, is used daily and is a good compromise between lack of faff and good coffee!

Hot.

Why is the standard 2 year EU warranty considered a good deal?

I bought one last time for 179, used my free £20 sun+ amazon voucher Very nice machine!

superdudeo

So you assume I didn't know how to use the machine because I have … So you assume I didn't know how to use the machine because I have condemned it? I used it for 2 months and passed very high quality beans through it. I know full well how to use it. My opinion is that it produces some sort of poor coffee that cannot be classed as espresso.



The size and strength of the beverage produced place it squarely in the "espresso" category. Whether you liked the taste or not is irrelevant, it makes good espresso, given the right combination of beans and grind.

Mine arrived a couple of days ago for £195 using the £5 mothers day voucher. Big thing of Columbian beans from Costco and this is knocking out quality coffee. Compared to my Nespresso machine it doesn't seem to be able to do quite as strong an espresso but that is likely to be down to settings and my medium beans.

superdudeo

Had to return mine after I realised a £10 french press could make a far … Had to return mine after I realised a £10 french press could make a far superior coffee. There's a reason that no coffee houses have bean to cup machines. In fact I think I'd rather drink Nescafe than use this again.



Obviously never been to Starbucks as they use automatic bean to cup machines.

bobmccluckie

Why is the standard 2 year EU warranty considered a good deal?



Because Amazon never honour the EU standard and you end up threatening them with the Small Claims Court and all the hassle that goes with it.

stuartgrn

Obviously never been to Starbucks as they use automatic bean to cup … Obviously never been to Starbucks as they use automatic bean to cup machines.



To be fair to him, calling Starbucks a Coffee House is like calling McDonalds a steakhouse.

doctorf

Because Amazon never honour the EU standard and you end up threatening … Because Amazon never honour the EU standard and you end up threatening them with the Small Claims Court and all the hassle that goes with it.



Never had a problem returning goods to Amazon.

johnthehuman

Never had a problem returning goods to Amazon.



even goods between one and two years old?

Quick heads up - I bought mine from Amazon 1 week ago for £229.99. Just called them up and they refunded the difference as I explained I didn't want to go through the faff or ordering a new one and returning the old etc - no questions asked! Great CS from Amazon as usual.

BTW - I've had some great experience so far of making some really lovely lattes from this machine!

You must've just missed the last time this was posted by karri for £199

Superb machine.............love it! Indispensable!

curr

Superb machine.............love it! Indispensable!



And yet, I'm about to dispense with mine after a week (_;) And, yes, I do know what I'm doing. It produces a mediocre espresso from quality beans that deliver a great cup from my manual 15 bar machine.

sibeer

Mine arrived a couple of days ago for £195 using the £5 mothers day v … Mine arrived a couple of days ago for £195 using the £5 mothers day voucher. Big thing of Columbian beans from Costco and this is knocking out quality coffee. Compared to my Nespresso machine it doesn't seem to be able to do quite as strong an espresso but that is likely to be down to settings and my medium beans.



So, is this better when compared to the Nespresso Citiz? The Nespresso does 19 bar compared to 15 bar on this one? Is the Nespresso better / more convenient for an espresso? I love an espreso from the Ristretto capsules on a Nespresso. Can this do it better?

Noeldude

And yet, I'm about to dispense with mine after a week (_;) And, yes, I do … And yet, I'm about to dispense with mine after a week (_;) And, yes, I do know what I'm doing. It produces a mediocre espresso from quality beans that deliver a great cup from my manual 15 bar machine.



Genuinely interested, not trolling question -

In what way is the espresso produced from this inferior to your other machine? Strength, taste, crema?

Original Poster

doctorf

even goods between one and two years old?


You're absolutely right, doctorf - Amazon make very little effort to comply with UK trading laws, let alone European standard warranties.

After a year (and I'm not even sure it's that long) Amazon will give you no help at all. They'll refer you to the manufacturer and claim that you have no rights at all against them under the Sale of Goods Act.
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