De'Longhi Magnifica ESAM4200 Bean to Cup Espresso/Cappuccino Coffee Machine - Silver £229.99 @ Amazon
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De'Longhi Magnifica ESAM4200 Bean to Cup Espresso/Cappuccino Coffee Machine - Silver £229.99 @ Amazon

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Found 23rd Oct 2014
Ok not cheap but hey look it's half price almost!

Wake up and smell the coffee

RRP: £449.99
Price: £229.99 & FREE Delivery in the UK. Details
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Been cheape, that's putting me off.

This one is regularly discounted and never more then 299. It is the models with milk frothers and more drink options that have an RRP of £1000+, but sometimes get discounted to 300 or so, that are worth jumping on.

V good machine. Bean to cup.

Was posted this morning by someone else, but good price.

Had one of these for a couple of years. It's a fantastic machine and a bargain at this price. Thanks Op, Heat added.

I paid £105 in sainsburys for the black version esam4000. For those without a time machine, this is a good deal though. The only bad thing is I'm becoming more of a caffeine addict.

I got the £105 one in Sainsburys (black version) from this: hotukdeals.com/dea…285

This machine consistently makes really excellent coffee; espressos are good enough to drink straight without sugar (the ultimate test for me). You even get the famed "tiger striping" on the crema (not that it affects the taste, but it looks nice).

It's also quick and easy to use - about 2 minutes for an espresso, 3-4 minutes for a latte (including warm up time).

Main downside - the steam wand is not long enough and should extend a bit further from the machine, but it's just about OK if you get the right size jug.

My tips: The steam wand has a pinarello wand on it which adds air to the steam automatically - I recommend taking this off and learning to steam the milk properly using the thinner tip underneath the pinarello wand, as the milk comes out much nicer this way once you have figured it out (but if you can't be bothered to learn, and don't mind a huge amount of overly-foamy milk, the pinarello wand is very easy to use). It does produce a reasonable amount of steam but not nearly as much as the more expensive machines.

One other note - this machine doesn't have an "automatic milk frother", but in my view this is good because (i) the milk foam from automatic foamers isn't that great, and (ii) it's more hassle to keep the auto-foamer clean and gunk-free.

If you're looking for reviews, as well as searching for this exact model, look for the ESAM 3500 (older machine, but almost identical) or the ESAM 4000 (which is absolutely identical, except that it's coloured black instead of silver).

Finally, and not that it really matters, but the internals on this machine are EXACTLY the same on most (but not all) of the Delonghi super automatic range. E.G. this version, costing £979, is exactly the same inside: amazon.co.uk/gp/…DBG . I guess it's easier to simply make one type of machine and then put a different box on it (cheap looking for the low end, expensive looking for the high end). You obviously get less "cool" features on the low end machines (no LCD screen, no clock/auto-wake, no pre-sets for multiple users etc). But the coffee tastes exactly the same! :-)
Edited by moderator: "Oct 27, 2014 11:03" 27th Oct 2014

Good price but not in stock till 24th nov despite saying delivered within 2-3 weeks, also worried that its delivered From the EU and occasinally causes problems with returns on what looks like occasional machines with problems see amazon reviews to see what i mean poor for amazon - Jeff Bezos should be sending out more ? Emails !

bargainking3

Main downside - the steam wand is not long enough and should extend a bit … Main downside - the steam wand is not long enough and should extend a bit further from the machine, but it's just about OK if you get the right size jug. My tips: The steam wand has a pinarello wand on it which adds air to the steam automatically - I recommend taking this off and learning to steam the milk properly using the thinner tip underneath the pinarello wand, as the milk comes out much nicer this way once you have figured it out (but if you can't be bothered to learn, and don't mind a huge amount of overly-foamy milk, the pinarello wand is very easy to use). It does produce a reasonable amount of steam but not nearly as much as the more expensive machines.



I've taken to resting my milk jug on top of the espresso cup for those moments I really don't want to be stood holding the milk jug.

By removing Panarello wand do you mean the whole black bit that twists off the steamer? I guess another option could be to block the air hole at the top which is what brings the air through it?

Only other annoyance I have had is that after you have foamed milk the machine refuses to make another espresso straight away. Have learned from reading the manual this means the machine is too hot, and the quickest way to deal with this issue is to just run the steam until it cools down.

anewman

I've taken to resting my milk jug on top of the espresso cup for those … I've taken to resting my milk jug on top of the espresso cup for those moments I really don't want to be stood holding the milk jug.By removing Panarello wand do you mean the whole black bit that twists off the steamer? I guess another option could be to block the air hole at the top which is what brings the air through it?Only other annoyance I have had is that after you have foamed milk the machine refuses to make another espresso straight away. Have learned from reading the manual this means the machine is too hot, and the quickest way to deal with this issue is to just run the steam until it cools down.



Re: reverting to "coffee" mode after using the steamer - this is very easy. Just press the "steam off" button. As you say it will normally take 10 minutes to return to coffee mode because it is cooling down. But you can speed up the process enormously (ie to around 15 seconds) by simply running the steam wand after you press the "steam off" button. Do this until you bleed off all the steam in the boiler and the machine then reverts immediately to coffee making mode. Instant win!

Second, as for the steam wand, there are two black plastic bits. The first of which just twists off and is the pinarello wand, underneath this is a second smaller plastic bit which also pulls off for cleaning (but which I leave on while steaming). And yes, you can indeed leave the pinarello wand on and get a similar effect by blocking the hole (or by surfing the hole, i.e. submerging the tip in the milk until the hole is right at the surface of the milk).

Oops my wand always came off both parts in one piece. Now separated it to find some not so appetising looking gone off milky gunk. Haha I'd probably never have found this out without reading this. Oops.
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