DENON AVRX2000 @ Richer Sounds £259.00 or £249.00 with VIP voucher
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DENON AVRX2000 @ Richer Sounds £259.00 or £249.00 with VIP voucher

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Found 17th Mar 2014
I have been eyeing this up for a while, I was going to go for the HK AVR171 - but this is supposed to be a lot better for not a lot more £ - and it was £299 not so long ago.

"The AVR-X2000 brings Denon back to the AV receiver top table in this ultra-competitive price category" What Hi-Fi Sound & Vision magazine. 5 star review, tested at £500.

7.1 CHANNELS OF QUALITY SOUND

Featuring a 7.1 output, the Denon AVRX2000 creates a true wrap-around soundstage. With two extra channels, the AVR-X2000 creates a stronger soundscape through the use of side speakers. Alternatively, you can use the outlets in conventional 5.1 mode and use the extra speaker terminals for a pair of stereo speakers in another room (Zone 2). As you'd expect from Denon, the AVR-X2000 has also been designed with sound quality as a priority. At the heart of this Denon AV receiver is fully discrete amplification. By using discrete (separate) components rather than an IC chip, superior quality components can be used for a more detailed sound quality. With 95 watts (125 watts at 6 ohms) for each of the 7 channels, the AVRX2000 has ample power to drive most speakers to high levels in all but the largest of rooms. Thanks to a Compressed Audio Restorer feature, the Denon also enhances the sound of lower bit rate audio, such as MP3s and audio from online videos.

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Just went to buy mine, signed up for VIP first and got an extra £10 off making it £249
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Got mine delivered on Saturday from Peter Tyson at this price. Really pleased with it, particularly the internet radio and remote control android app and pc functions which I didn't expect to be up to much. Remember Richer Sounds often do £10 off vouchers for VIP members so might be better still.
I'd rather stick to well known brands when it comes to AV.
cracking price , £250 over xmas time , no doubt all the great comments will come that generally spoil these threads of late. but until then have some heat..
what speakers do you recommend for this?

looking at monitor vectors or Canton 5.1 movies
jackvdbuk

what speakers do you recommend for this?looking at monitor vectors or … what speakers do you recommend for this?looking at monitor vectors or Canton 5.1 movies



jackvdbuk

what speakers do you recommend for this?looking at monitor vectors or … what speakers do you recommend for this?looking at monitor vectors or Canton 5.1 movies



dont forget to factor in speaker wire , a good £60 + from my experience..
jackvdbuk

what speakers do you recommend for this?looking at monitor vectors or … what speakers do you recommend for this?looking at monitor vectors or Canton 5.1 movies



I use the Q Acousics 7000i and they give a superb sound with this AMP. I would highly recommend any of the Q Acoustics ranges.
Edited by: "f1refox" 17th Mar 2014

dont forget to factor in speaker wire , a good £60 + from my experience..



Decent quality copper wire is 99p a metre from Richer sounds. Unless of course you need 60+ metres of the stuff :-),

Copper speaker wire richer sounds

This cable is also superb value 42 strand pure copper cable 20 metres for £7.99...

20m copper speaker cable £7.99




Edited by: "f1refox" 17th Mar 2014
f1refox

Decent quality copper wire is 99p a metre from Richer sounds. Unless of … Decent quality copper wire is 99p a metre from Richer sounds. Unless of course you need 60+ metres of the stuff :-)Copper speaker wire richer sounds



The copper stuff will do the job no doubt ,I ran that stuff for a while until it was pointed out that better cable equals better sound , and its very true , i changed my rear to this richersounds.com/pro…cro , and my fronts and centre to this ,richersounds.com/pro…cab , a better clarity is the only way i could think to describe the change , so yes £60 + is more than realistic , after all why do a big spend on an amp and speakers and get cheap wire that wont do them justice ??
sim11

The copper stuff will do the job no doubt ,I ran that stuff for a while … The copper stuff will do the job no doubt ,I ran that stuff for a while until it was pointed out that better cable equals better sound , and its very true , i changed my rear to this http://www.richersounds.com/product/speaker-cables/qed/micro/qed-micro , and my fronts and centre to this ,http://www.richersounds.com/product/speaker-cables/qed/silver-anniversaryxt/qed-sil-anniv-xt-cab , a better clarity is the only way i could think to describe the change , so yes £60 + is more than realistic , after all why do a big spend on an amp and speakers and get cheap wire that wont do them justice ??



This fellow disagrees: roger-russell.com/wir…htm
sim11

The copper stuff will do the job no doubt ,I ran that stuff for a while … The copper stuff will do the job no doubt ,I ran that stuff for a while until it was pointed out that better cable equals better sound , and its very true , i changed my rear to this http://www.richersounds.com/product/speaker-cables/qed/micro/qed-micro , and my fronts and centre to this ,http://www.richersounds.com/product/speaker-cables/qed/silver-anniversaryxt/qed-sil-anniv-xt-cab , a better clarity is the only way i could think to describe the change , so yes £60 + is more than realistic , after all why do a big spend on an amp and speakers and get cheap wire that wont do them justice ??



Who ever pointed this out to you was unfortunately having you on I'm afraid. As long as the cable is pure copper and of a diameter suitable to the voltage needed then there will be no difference. The QED cable you have linked is a copper cable 42 strand the same as the one I linked above just considerably more expensive. You are simply paying for the name. They will both be the same.

The silver cable is just a silver plated cable with a copper core and will offer no advantage at all over a pure copper cable.

hukdbargain

I'd rather stick to well known brands when it comes to AV.



That's a joke - right! ?
f1refox

Who ever pointed this out to you was unfortunately having you on I'm … Who ever pointed this out to you was unfortunately having you on I'm afraid. As long as the cable is pure copper and of a diameter suitable to the voltage needed then there will be no difference. The QED cable you have linked is a copper cable 42 strand the same as the one I linked above just considerably more expensive. You are simply paying for the name. They will both be the same. The silver cable is just a silver plated cable with a copper core and will offer no advantage at all over a pure copper cable.



i was simply offering my experience of the cable change i did , i knew that posting helpful comments on threads like this would lead to stupid feedback , perhaps the person who helped me to install the new cables also imagined the improvement in sound quality also !!!


I think im going to buy now and get proper speakers in a month or so. I don't think I can resist it at this price!

OriginalSHare

Got mine delivered on Saturday from Peter Tyson at this price. Really … Got mine delivered on Saturday from Peter Tyson at this price. Really pleased with it, particularly the internet radio and remote control android app and pc functions which I didn't expect to be up to much. Remember Richer Sounds often do £10 off vouchers for VIP members so might be better still.

jackvdbuk

what speakers do you recommend for this?looking at monitor vectors or … what speakers do you recommend for this?looking at monitor vectors or Canton 5.1 movies



I have been eyeing up the 2000i I think it was. They do look nice.
sim11

i was simply offering my experience of the cable change i did , i knew … i was simply offering my experience of the cable change i did , i knew that posting helpful comments on threads like this would lead to stupid feedback , perhaps the person who helped me to install the new cables also imagined the improvement in sound quality also !!!



Stupid comments. I prefer to call it scientific fact but call it what you like.

Your perceivable difference in sound quality was more than likely due to using a fresh cable with tight connections. Or simply placebo effect.

Sorry if this offends you but I'm just quoting facts and helping other people by not wasting lots of money on not needed cabling.
Matthaus

I think im going to buy now and get proper speakers in a month or so. I … I think im going to buy now and get proper speakers in a month or so. I don't think I can resist it at this price! I have been eyeing up the 2000i I think it was. They do look nice.



I had the 2000i 5.1 setup and tbh the 7000i do not sound a million times better. Really nice set of speakers the 2000i the centre and sub in the range are very nice indeed.

The avrx2000 is a superb amp and for £259 you really will struggle to find better.


Edited by: "f1refox" 17th Mar 2014
Do you get a foot stool with this sofa?
f1refox

Who ever pointed this out to you was unfortunately having you on I'm … Who ever pointed this out to you was unfortunately having you on I'm afraid. As long as the cable is pure copper and of a diameter suitable to the voltage needed then there will be no difference. The QED cable you have linked is a copper cable 42 strand the same as the one I linked above just considerably more expensive. You are simply paying for the name. They will both be the same. The silver cable is just a silver plated cable with a copper core and will offer no advantage at all over a pure copper cable.



I have to say. With out reading any of the above it does sound logical. its its pure its pure.

makes me laugh the gold tipped optical cables you can buy. .
f1refox

Stupid comments. I prefer to call it scientific fact but call it what you … Stupid comments. I prefer to call it scientific fact but call it what you like. Your perceivable difference in sound quality was more than likely due to using a fresh cable with tight connections. Or simply placebo effect. Sorry if this offends you but I'm just quoting facts and helping other people by not wasting lots of money on not needed cabling.



No offence was taken , but the facts you quote are not completely true .

But i will leave it at that , for anyone else just be careful about facts on you get on here about av stuff , may be best to go over to av forums and have a read around there and make your own mind up .
sim11

No offence was taken , but the facts you quote are not completely true … No offence was taken , but the facts you quote are not completely true .But i will leave it at that , for anyone else just be careful about facts on you get on here about av stuff , may be best to go over to av forums and have a read around there and make your own mind up .

Jesus Christ get a life the pair of you. Have you nothing better to do than sit behind your computer having and argument with a complete stranger over the internet.
I bought one of these at New Year when they were £250 (Peter Tyson and Home AV Direct were both at this price for a week or so). The original retail price was circa £500, What Hi-Fi awarded it 5* at the full ticket price. At £259, it's a bargain!

Sound quality is fantastic - I've got it hooked up to 7 KEF speakers. It replaced a Marantz amp that I'd bought in 2009 and I couldn't believe the difference! Lots of HDMI ports, buttons on the front to quickly switch between the different HDMI inputs (don't need to fiddle about with the remote), a decent smartphone app (I'm using the Android version which works well) and internet radio etc. The end helicopter sequence from Skyfall is fantastic with bullets zipping around the room and the copter literally sounds like it's flying right over your head!

As for speaker cable, I've personally used cheaper cable in the past but, having switched to QED silver micro cable (about £3.50 per meter), I wouldn't switch back. It might be all in my head but the sound - especially from the front channels - sounds that bit clearer.
sim11

No offence was taken , but the facts you quote are not completely true … No offence was taken , but the facts you quote are not completely true .But i will leave it at that , for anyone else just be careful about facts on you get on here about av stuff , may be best to go over to av forums and have a read around there and make your own mind up .



Fair enough. They can read my in depth posts on AvForums covering the very subject :-)

Have a read of this it should cover everything anyone needs to know on cables.

Cable guide

A quote from the above that makes me chuckle and is very true in my opinion.

We have been told by advertising that the exotic speaker wires offer … We have been told by advertising that the exotic speaker wires offer fabulous advantages over ordinary lamp cord. It would seem reasonable that using this same wire for lamps would also enhance their performance. In the same vein as wire literature, you can have your lamp reproduce light with the full spectrum color fidelity of natural daylight, finally allowing you see light the way it should be seen and bring out the natural performance of your lamp. It could offer greater warmth, detail, brilliance, definition and speed by providing wider bandwidth and reduced skin effect. It can provide a distortion free illumination that reduces eye strain, resulting in clearer vision and optimal color perception. It can allow you to work for longer periods of time with less visual distraction or fatigue. Just imagine what it might do for your electric razor or microwave, etc.!


Edited by: "f1refox" 17th Mar 2014
f1refox

I had the 2000i 5.1 setup and tbh the 7000i do not sound a million times … I had the 2000i 5.1 setup and tbh the 7000i do not sound a million times better. Really nice set of speakers the 2000i the centre and sub in the range are very nice indeed. The avrx2000 is a superb amp and for £259 you really will struggle to find better.



Oh it was 7000s.. it was these... what does the 'i' mean?

richersounds.com/pro…blk
Matthaus

Oh it was 7000s.. it was these... what does the 'i' … Oh it was 7000s.. it was these... what does the 'i' mean?http://www.richersounds.com/product/speaker-packages/q-acoustics/q7000-blk/qaco-q7000-5.1-blk



The Q7000i are the latest models of the Q7000 series. The"i" has just been added to show it's the later version. There are a few improvements but in my opinion the Q7000 setup for £399 is a fantastic price and the Q7000i are by no means worth double the price.

The Q7000 with the Denon AVRX2000 will be a very nice setup and offer a superb sound for both Music and Movies.
Edited by: "f1refox" 17th Mar 2014
Great amp....pity it has neither wifi or bluetooth.
f1refox

The Q7000i are the latest models of the Q7000 series. The"i" has just … The Q7000i are the latest models of the Q7000 series. The"i" has just been added to show it's the later version. There are a few improvements but in my opinion the Q7000 setup for £399 is a fantastic price and the Q7000i are by no means worth double the price. The Q7000 with the Denon AVRX2000 will be a very nice setup and offer a superb sound for both Music and Movies.



Thank you for that
I can't decide this or Yamaha RXV675 to go with my Tannoy HTS201s, Will also be used for playing music from a squeezebox. Is the Yamaha worth the price difference, because at this price for the Denon I'm very tempted!
frogbog

Great amp....pity it has neither wifi or bluetooth.




Arguably, where ever possible you should always use a cabled connection, as WIFI is pretty crap as far as technology goes.

Besides, if cabled into something, I suspect you can WIFI to to via the router.
hukdbargain

I'd rather stick to well known brands when it comes to AV.



I'm afraid this shows a great deal more about the poster than about the product. Denon is one of the worlds top names in HiFi and is an exclusive quality brand. I suggest the poster goes to Argos and buys Goodman's kit. Those in the know will go to Richard Sounds and buy quality Denon equipment. This is seriously good value at this price.
@ Matthaus - Can you clarify something for me pls mate? I don't have a problem connecting the amp to my router via ethernet, but if it doesn't have wi-fi or bluetooth capability, how do I play a song from my mobile to the amp?
You get what you pay for with speaker wire


Well, if the unit is cabled to your WIFI router, it is on the same network and same IP range (likely) - therefore, it does not matter that your phone is wireless and your Denon is wired as it amounts to the same thing as far as your setup goes.

Just like I can stream something via WIFI on my laptop directly to my TV (WIFI) or my Xbone (cabled) - it makes no difference

frogbog

@ Matthaus - Can you clarify something for me pls mate? I don't have a … @ Matthaus - Can you clarify something for me pls mate? I don't have a problem connecting the amp to my router via ethernet, but if it doesn't have wi-fi or bluetooth capability, how do I play a song from my mobile to the amp?

hukdbargain

I'd rather stick to well known brands when it comes to AV.



Don't feed the Troll, he does it on every post
Turner855

I can't decide this or Yamaha RXV675 to go with my Tannoy HTS201s, Will … I can't decide this or Yamaha RXV675 to go with my Tannoy HTS201s, Will also be used for playing music from a squeezebox. Is the Yamaha worth the price difference, because at this price for the Denon I'm very tempted!



i recently purchased the yamaha 675 i was told that the yamaha was in a different class to this denon , but on the other hand it is nearly £100 more expensive!!!

As for the yamaha musically wise when listening to flac and original cd`s the detail is great , i had a family around listening to some familiar songs , and one of the most commented things was how you could here instruments that we simply could`nt before , on my old onkyo 506 , i will say that at volume you could here just how poor mp3`s are , is it any better than the denon i cannot comment on that i have`nt had a test run on one , hope this helps
Edited by: "sim11" 18th Mar 2014
Was acceptable in the 90s.
very good price! i managed to get one nearly new for 120 plus new monitor audio vector 5.1 for 279. nice setup for 400 pounds
sim11

dont forget to factor in speaker wire , a good £60 + from my experience..



Fom my experience, spending £5 on speaker cable is perfectly fine.

There is a reason shops that sell expensive speaker wire don't do side by side comparisons...
Great Find. Heat Added
I do fancy one of these. Does it automatically change audio input when it detects a connected box being switched on (eg Sky or PS4)?
I would be tempted to wait for a HDCP 2.2 compliant receiver.
Otherwise it won't support the new 4k DRM.

Onkyo have already announced models supporting this feature.

Might go for this, 4k upscaling is nice, but I'm unlikely to own a 4k TV for at last a couple of years so it's a good interim receiver for my needs. Have a little scorchio.
sim11

The copper stuff will do the job no doubt ,I ran that stuff for a while … The copper stuff will do the job no doubt ,I ran that stuff for a while until it was pointed out that better cable equals better sound , and its very true , i changed my rear to this http://www.richersounds.com/product/speaker-cables/qed/micro/qed-micro , and my fronts and centre to this ,http://www.richersounds.com/product/speaker-cables/qed/silver-anniversaryxt/qed-sil-anniv-xt-cab , a better clarity is the only way i could think to describe the change , so yes £60 + is more than realistic , after all why do a big spend on an amp and speakers and get cheap wire that wont do them justice ??



Better cable can result in better sound, but you need to understand what makes one cable better than another. One of the main factors in cable gauge.

I believe the SYMPHONY 100 is 1.5mm thick.
The QED Silver Anniversary is also 1.5 mm thick.
The QED Micro is only 1.25 mm thick.

As they are all pure copper and of similar construction, I would not expect a appreciable difference between the SYMPHONY and the Silver Anniversary, but I would say that the QED Micro is inferior cable... though it may not matter depending on how long a run you are using. If you really want to upgrade the cable to the front speakers, then use 2.5 mm cable, but again, the difference in quality will probably be small if the cable run is only a metre or two.
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