Denon D1100 Headphones £39.95 @ eBay/ consumerelectricals
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Denon D1100 Headphones £39.95 @ eBay/ consumerelectricals

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Found 29th Nov 2012
Wonderful entry Audiophile headphone with a fantastic bass response. Their build quality is a lot better than what some people says. I have used mine for over 7 month after heavy use and no sign of build quality issue. I also have the more expensive high end D2000 and D5000, to be honest, the D1100 competes well, with a richer bass.

It's shocking to see Beats Solo HD and Studio headphones deals getting hot when these sound MUCH MUCH better without looking like someone have more money than sense without any knowledge of audio quality. These look classier too.

I have done a number of blind tests including sound engineers and sale assistant from HMV, they all prefered the Denon D1100 hands down compared to the Beats Studio regardless the price. The Denon has better bass and much higher definition.

Great reviews of these on Head-fi.

RRP over £140 so a bargain at this price.
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Thanks OP but amazon reviews suggest build quality is poor. Only 3 stars.

Also not sure why u need to compare against Beats. Beats shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Denon/Sennheiser IMO.

same in tkmaxx for 39.99
sorry cold for me...

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jayjay266

Thanks OP but amazon reviews suggest build quality is poor. Only 3 … Thanks OP but amazon reviews suggest build quality is poor. Only 3 stars.Also not sure why u need to compare against Beats. Beats shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Denon/Sennheiser IMO.



I only mentioned Beats out of frustration, as you can find they are getting very hot here in this very forum. Very sad for this wonderful community.

I love Denon, I have both their D2000 and D5000 aswell. I enjoy high quality headphones and own quite a number, including Audio Technica M50, Pro500MK2, Beyerdynamic DT770, V-Moda M80, Sennheiser HD600 and highend interfaces and amps. The D1100 actually held its own being a very great sounding headphone, and modern in signiture with a rich bass.

I wouldnt read into Amazon reviews too much. On their the Beats are getting some of the best reviews... What so consummers know nowadays. I feel the build quality isnt bad at all.
Edited by: "musicsounds" 30th Nov 2012

Saw these in my local Comet today. Marked up at £120. 50% off made them £60. No wonder they're closing down... Selling stuff at 3 times their going rate never really wins you any customers...

have some heat! anyone that can appreciate quality will always go for denon or sennheiser but beats are more of a fashion statement for teenagers and have nothing to do with quality!

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Gloat deal means I vote cold. The needless anti-beats comments make me wish i could vote cold twice

HOT HOT HOT,

just bought these a few days back when same deal was for 37.99 with free delivery. I bought an extra squaretrade warranty for 8.49 for three years (so any build related issues will be covered, it covers accidental damage as well....)

I have never used beats so dont want to compare but for under 40 pounds with DENON as the company and 50mm driver, you can never go wrong, trust me, great sound quality in my opinion....

ENJOY.....

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Mascherano

Gloat deal means I vote cold. The needless anti-beats comments make me … Gloat deal means I vote cold. The needless anti-beats comments make me wish i could vote cold twice



The whole Head-fi and Innerfidelity and all audiophile community are extremely Anti-Beat because they suck on the front of audio production. Does that make them cold or less reputable? No, because its the truth. I bet you voted hot in the other Beats deal...

If you want a plastic glossy headband then go for Beats, if you some great sound, go for brands such as Denon, Sennheiser, Audio Technica, AKG, or Beyetdynamic.

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musicsounds

The whole Head-fi and Innerfidelity and all audiophile community are … The whole Head-fi and Innerfidelity and all audiophile community are extremely Anti-Beat because they suck on the front of audio production. Does that make them cold or less reputable? No, because its the truth. I bet you voted hot in the other Beats deal...If you want a plastic glossy headband then go for Beats, if you some great sound, go for brands such as Denon, Sennheiser, Audio Technica, AKG, or Beyetdynamic.


You come across like a teenager. You use the phrase "audio production"; I do not think it means what you think it means.
Please dont lie here- have you ever auditioned Beats headphones?

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Mascherano

You come across like a teenager. You use the phrase "audio production"; I … You come across like a teenager. You use the phrase "audio production"; I do not think it means what you think it means.Please dont lie here- have you ever auditioned Beats headphones?



Yes indeed I have auditioned Beats many many times, with side to side comparisons. Solo HD, Studio, Pro, Mixr - They are all sub par compared to the headphones I mentioned. The question is have you heard what I suggested?? Like I said, blind test was done with the Beats Studio and the Denon D1100, which the Denon winning hands down.

Please try some proper headphones and then tell me how bad the Beats compares.

I'm a huge fan of the Denon AH-D1000 which I believe is the model before, picked them up for £40 when they were on some sale somewhere. Very happy with them, especially at that price. As someone who is a bit of an audiophile (I've probably owned every pair of headphones up to and including the Grado GS1000, although my main cans at the moment are my Beyerdynamic Manufaktur DT990 600ohm, about 18 months old), I'm stunned with the sound quality of the Denon. Compares favourably to full-size cans, not as 'congested' as most closed cans.

I'll be getting myself a pair of these and seeing how they compare with my D1000s

Edited by: "chippytea" 1st Dec 2012

These are now £32.06 which is on another thread, and same as above, poor reviews put me off these.

Mascherano

Gloat deal means I vote cold. The needless anti-beats comments make me … Gloat deal means I vote cold. The needless anti-beats comments make me wish i could vote cold twice



Beats are a fashion accessory first, a headphone second. They should be treated with scorn.

So how would these compare with the super lux headphones, that i can get off Thomman for half the price of these?

You should have just edited this deal instead of starting a new one. Can't have two lots of heat for the same item!

Are Beats any good?

Hmmm, £32... I'm tempted! I really like my quality though (as in, quality feel).

I can spend up to £100 for the right pair, but what would be much better than these?

Any advice, before I buy these?

PulseTurbo

Hmmm, £32... I'm tempted! I really like my quality though (as in, quality … Hmmm, £32... I'm tempted! I really like my quality though (as in, quality feel).I can spend up to £100 for the right pair, but what would be much better than these?Any advice, before I buy these?



These are damn good headphones but over your budget. Have a look at AKG and see if there's anything cheaper, they do some good reference headphones.

Any suggestions? I don't mind spending out.

They look pretty good, I must admit! £150 is perhaps a tad too rich, though.

Bought a pair of beats solo today off a mate and after a day of listening they don't even compare to my £20 sennhaiser hd202s people pay for the brand.

amazon.co.uk/AKG…339

Those aren't bad either if you don't mind not having a complete seal and within your price range. Bit of a different style to the others I linked to and they aren't in the reference class but it depends what you want really. I tend to go for reference every time as I record / produce music so I need the sound as true as possible. Non-reference headphones can boost various frequencies aimed at different genres, such as the dre/beats headphones aimed at R&B (stay away from those by the way!!) That's not always the case but generally you won't get as true a sound as you would with a good reference set with flat frequency response. I am always put off from reviews that say "bass is awesome, really loud". For me a good sound is a sound that matches the exact frequency response when it gets to your ear as the sound that is saved digitally on your CD or computer.

So, I'd keep looking. I'm not sure what the Denon headphones are like but with an RRP of £140 reduced to £32 they are likely massively discounted for a reason.

Edited by: "electrogear" 1st Dec 2012

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n-lindz

Bought a pair of beats solo today off a mate and after a day of listening … Bought a pair of beats solo today off a mate and after a day of listening they don't even compare to my £20 sennhaiser hd202s people pay for the brand.


they are fake

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musicsounds

Yes indeed I have auditioned Beats many many times, with side to side … Yes indeed I have auditioned Beats many many times, with side to side comparisons. Solo HD, Studio, Pro, Mixr - They are all sub par compared to the headphones I mentioned. The question is have you heard what I suggested?? Like I said, blind test was done with the Beats Studio and the Denon D1100, which the Denon winning hands down.Please try some proper headphones and then tell me how bad the Beats compares.


How did you perform the blinding? What, in particular, do you not like about the Beats Studio sound?
What did you mean by 'audio production'?

Mascherano

How did you perform the blinding? What, in particular, do you not like … How did you perform the blinding? What, in particular, do you not like about the Beats Studio sound?What did you mean by 'audio production'?



Not that were talking to me, but can I say that the full range of frequency response on the beats headphones absolutely suck! Not just the bass, not just the mids, not just the treble - the lot - they're all over the place.

Secondly, the price is absolutely ridiculous.

In my internet research for the D1100 I found an experiment/comparison between the beats and D1100:

http://cdn.head-fi.org/4/41/412671a4_01425i242539sz100.jpg

So not only do the beats headphones suck, so do these!

Edited by: "electrogear" 1st Dec 2012

Another experiment showing difference between Right and Left channels (same audio signal obviously):

http://content.reviewed.com/products/2830/specs/5331/freq.gif

Laughable that they can't be so different, really, just shows the quality of the parts used.


Edited by: "electrogear" 1st Dec 2012

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electrogear

Not that were talking to me, but can I say that the full range of … Not that were talking to me, but can I say that the full range of frequency response on the beats headphones absolutely suck! Not just the bass, not just the mids, not just the treble - the lot - they're all over the place.Secondly, the price is absolutely ridiculous.In my internet research for the D1100 I found an experiment/comparison between the beats and D1100:So not only do the beats headphones suck, so do these!



The quality of a headphone is not only about the frequency response...

The Denon is hugely better in every way in my opinion.

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Mascherano

How did you perform the blinding? What, in particular, do you not like … How did you perform the blinding? What, in particular, do you not like about the Beats Studio sound?What did you mean by 'audio production'?



You should try these yourself and make your own decision. The Beats Studio compared to the Denon D1100, and indeed my D2000, M50 and DT770 is noticeably less detailed, rolled off high frequency and a slightly muddy bass.

"Audio production" I meant as in the driver of these headphone producing sound. It has no reference to things such as studio work or mixing/mastering etc.

Note these blind test are for my own personal knowledge and interest. Lossless files were used for the blind test taking place at my studio, using:
- MOTU 828 MK2 Audio interface (professional quality convertor)
- Presonus Monitor Station (very clean headphone amp for multiple output.)
- Van damme cable + neutrik connector for all connections used.

I own a genuine pair of Beats Studio (which I absolutely hate) to compare to my headphone collection.

For blind testing outside eg. at HMV store, I used Classic Ipod with AIFF file, and Fiio 5 amp. As all headphones are going through the same source, it is still a fair test.

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musicsounds

You should try these yourself and make your own decision. The Beats … You should try these yourself and make your own decision. The Beats Studio compared to the Denon D1100, and indeed my D2000, M50 and DT770 is noticeably less detailed, rolled off high frequency and a slightly muddy bass. "Audio production" I meant as in the driver of these headphone producing sound. It has no reference to things such as studio work or mixing/mastering etc. Note these blind test are for my own personal knowledge and interest. Lossless files were used for the blind test taking place at my studio, using:- MOTU 828 MK2 Audio interface (professional quality convertor)- Presonus Monitor Station (very clean headphone amp for multiple output.)- Van damme cable + neutrik connector for all connections used. I own a genuine pair of Beats Studio (which I absolutely hate) to compare to my headphone collection. For blind testing outside eg. at HMV store, I used Classic Ipod with AIFF file, and Fiio 5 amp. As all headphones are going through the same source, it is still a fair test.


Fair enough, pretty reliable test. I actually agree with you completely; I just didnt know whether to tale you seriously or not.
Its now obvious that you know exactly what you're talking about, good posts

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Mascherano

Fair enough, pretty reliable test. I actually agree with you completely; … Fair enough, pretty reliable test. I actually agree with you completely; I just didnt know whether to tale you seriously or not. Its now obvious that you know exactly what you're talking about, good posts



Glad to hear!

musicsounds

The quality of a headphone is not only about the frequency response...The … The quality of a headphone is not only about the frequency response...The Denon is hugely better in every way in my opinion.



Care to qualify that statement?

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electrogear

Care to qualify that statement?



Sure. The frequency response graph shows only the colouration of the headphone and its frequency extension, You can get a sense of how low or high the headphone can handle visually, taking into consideration of the human hearing (20hz - 20khz). What the frequency response graph does not show:
- its ability to articulate transients in sound,
- how well it handle bass frequency which affects the perception of how fast the bass sounds,
- the sound stage,
- instrument seperation,
- clarity/muddiness
- its ability to reproduce a sound realistically, eg a high quality recording of string section, does it sound realistic on the headphone compared to being there live?
- isolation
etc

A lot of manufactures of headphones, (also studio monitors too), use specs such as frequency response as a way of marketing. Inexperienced buyer might use it as a ultimate way of deciding on what headphone is best, without realising that the spec does not mean everything whether it's a good or bad pair of headphone.

Denon has been in the audio business for nearly 20 times more than Beats. Denon headphones, especially its higher range such as the D2000 and D5000 is regarded not only Audiophile headphones, but high grade studio referencing and mixing headphones. It is even more well regarded than the Audio Technica M50 or Beyerdynamic DT770 for quality. You will not find Beats in any leading studio where the artists aren't paid by Beats for endorsement or product placement. Ask any serious producer or audio enginneer, they will repeat what I have said.

I now need to find some headphones. Can anyone point me to another good deal?

musicsounds

Sure. The frequency response graph shows only the colouration of the … Sure. The frequency response graph shows only the colouration of the headphone and its frequency extension, You can get a sense of how low or high the headphone can handle visually, taking into consideration of the human hearing (20hz - 20khz).



I don't think you understand the frequency response curve. It is not there purely to show you how high or low a frequency the headphone can handle. It depicts the dB (level) of a signal at any given frequency (hence having two axis, and a curve). Put simply, it shows the accuracy with respect to frequency (pitch) and level (volume) of the full sound spectrum. In visual terms, that's about the best representation you can give of a headphones ability to perform. An ideal frequency response would show 0dB boost/loss right across the full spectrum, although in reality that is quite hard to achieve. And it really is a necessary diagram to understand if you're in the business of doing it seriously, because it's difficult for any end user to determine frequency response by listening when the input source is unknown. You can't sit down and say "wow that's not performing well around 440Hz" unless you have something of known reference to compare it to, or you can remember exactly how it sounded on a good setup. That's why so many amateur producers with crap headphones end up producing a piece of music with a ridiculously EQ'D sound to compensate for the poor performing headphones that they produced it on, furniture resonance going off left right and centre when played back on a decent pair of monitors with flat frequency response.

musicsounds

A lot of manufactures of headphones, (also studio monitors too), use … A lot of manufactures of headphones, (also studio monitors too), use specs such as frequency response as a way of marketing. Inexperienced buyer might use it as a ultimate way of deciding on what headphone is best, without realising that the spec does not mean everything whether it's a good or bad pair of headphone.



Frequency response isn't the single factor but it is hugely important in transmitting a true sound to the ear, probably the most important factor which is why manufacturers and audio sites use the frequency response as a first indication of whether it is a good quality/well designed headphone. In fact you will find that manufacturers with poorly designed headphones will not use frequency response to advertise their headphones because it demonstrates that the product uses poor components & design. Of course sound isolation and transients are important (the other things you mention are consequential of these) but that doesn't mean you should go out and buy headphones with a poor frequency response just because they have good sound isolation. Just like if you wanted a fast car you wouldn't buy a Corsa with a full body kit, spoiler, and a 1 litre engine. Both sets of headphones clearly have shockingly bad frequency response so even if all of the other things are there, neither headphone will exhibit an accurate sound.

musicsounds

Denon has been in the audio business for nearly 20 times more than Beats. … Denon has been in the audio business for nearly 20 times more than Beats. Denon headphones, especially its higher range such as the D2000 and D5000 is regarded not only Audiophile headphones, but high grade studio referencing and mixing headphones. It is even more well regarded than the Audio Technica M50 or Beyerdynamic DT770 for quality. You will not find Beats in any leading studio where the artists aren't paid by Beats for endorsement or product placement. Ask any serious producer or audio enginneer, they will repeat what I have said.



You're Denon's ideal customer. You'd buy a low end (low priced, overinflated RRP) headphone just because it has their name on it. Of course a lot of their stuff in the higher price range is fantastic, that doesn't mean you can spend £40 and get the same quality. Anyone with a bit of nouse about them will not make a snap decision based on brand.


Edited by: "electrogear" 4th Dec 2012
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