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Posted 26th Apr
If you're into building small and cheap PCs then you've probably been waiting for this. It was released in the US last month and I've been waiting for it to appear in the UK, well now it has.

Amazon is selling this for £156 here, but UK company CCL are under cutting them by over £20 - and it's closer to the US price of $150.

For those who don't know, it will take a Ryzen 2400G, is about the same size as an ATX PSU and will make the perfect tiny gaming PC. Remember you can play games like Fortnight and Apex legends at 60fps on a Ryzen 2400G so it should be reasonably capable. I'd also be hoping that Asrock will update the Bios on the mobo to support the newer Ryzen G series that's rumoured to come out at the end of May.


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Stock is limited everywhere right now - CCL only had 5 and I just bought one of them, so only 4 left. Perhaps Amazon will price match them.

It's also easy to connect a GPU to this via a pci-e ribbon cable going into the m.2 slot, so you can get even more oomph out of it if you have an e-gpu setup. Here's a link.
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M1sterDeeds3 h, 32 m ago

Interesting. I've been looking to buy an Intel NUC but this throws …Interesting. I've been looking to buy an Intel NUC but this throws something else into the equation.Any thoughts on vs NUC?


Along with everything else the guys above have said, NUC also supports thunderbolt 3. Might be a selling point to some due to 10 gigabit ethernet or eGPUs if DIY mini PCIe things aren't your thing.
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If only it had thunderbolt 3 for eGPU this would be perfect for my use case.
I am not up to date with linux support and kodi hw acceleration on amd apu but if it is any better than 2years ago then this is probably best media centre/emulation box out there. That is if you need x86 in your living room if not that shield/jetson or mi box will be better. Only real disadvantage i can see here is use of sodimm memorys, ryzen cpu's like fast ram memorys and fast sodimms are overpriced
cantonbean26/04/2019 08:42

If only it had thunderbolt 3 for eGPU this would be perfect for my use …If only it had thunderbolt 3 for eGPU this would be perfect for my use case.


This has pci-e capable m.2 slots so it should be able to take in one of the laptop adapters for egpu
Kinio26/04/2019 08:54

This has pci-e capable m.2 slots so it should be able to take in one of …This has pci-e capable m.2 slots so it should be able to take in one of the laptop adapters for egpu


Fair enough but am looking for a nice tidy solution. At least the option is there though.
Kinio26/04/2019 08:52

I am not up to date with linux support and kodi hw acceleration on amd apu …I am not up to date with linux support and kodi hw acceleration on amd apu but if it is any better than 2years ago then this is probably best media centre/emulation box out there. That is if you need x86 in your living room if not that shield/jetson or mi box will be better. Only real disadvantage i can see here is use of sodimm memorys, ryzen cpu's like fast ram memorys and fast sodimms are overpriced


A good tip is to buy SODIMMs from CEX - they're super-cheap compared to most other places. I got recommended this course of action from another HUKDer and I often do builds with CEX RAM.
cantonbean11 m ago

Fair enough but am looking for a nice tidy solution. At least the option …Fair enough but am looking for a nice tidy solution. At least the option is there though.


If you have crafty approach ypu can make something yourself, couple years back i used this to create my owne egpu stand for lenovo laptop. I have used open air approche and it looked very similare to radeon 7 stand with 2 cables ouing out of the box. I had to diy connector inside the laptop but this was fairly easy as i sacrifice single usb on left side and rewired it to m2 board inside...
Blurigard26/04/2019 09:28

A good tip is to buy SODIMMs from CEX - they're super-cheap compared to …A good tip is to buy SODIMMs from CEX - they're super-cheap compared to most other places. I got recommended this course of action from another HUKDer and I often do builds with CEX RAM.


Thats true cex has good prices on ram but for ryzen Apu you want to go with dual channel setup of identical or very similar modules, If your local cex dont have what you need, Ordering online will get you random stuff
Kinio8 h, 12 m ago

Thats true cex has good prices on ram but for ryzen Apu you want to go …Thats true cex has good prices on ram but for ryzen Apu you want to go with dual channel setup of identical or very similar modules, If your local cex dont have what you need, Ordering online will get you random stuff


That can be true. Buying local is always best. I've bought DDR4 and old DDR3, both laptop and desktop around 5-6 times in the past two months and they have all come matched! Probably good luck, I know, but it looks like they are at least trying to send them out in pairs. You can always return to your local store and forfeit the £3 delivery cost if it fails to work.
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Blurigard26/04/2019 09:28

A good tip is to buy SODIMMs from CEX - they're super-cheap compared to …A good tip is to buy SODIMMs from CEX - they're super-cheap compared to most other places. I got recommended this course of action from another HUKDer and I often do builds with CEX RAM.


How thrashed are they due to poor handling
I want a small PC with full size components. Help.
deleted199825126/04/2019 10:35

How thrashed are they due to poor handling


They've all been visually fine and they've all worked.what I would say is that I've bought a few asrock miniitx boards before and some have been a bit particular with their RAM. They've mostly worked, but sometimes they don't report the correct speed. This isn't CEX related as I've tried with proper branded RAM, but that would be something I look out for with this mobo.
Edited by: "Blurigard" 26th Apr
There's a pretty in depth review HERE
Interesting. I've been looking to buy an Intel NUC but this throws something else into the equation.

Any thoughts on vs NUC?
M1sterDeeds1 h, 16 m ago

Interesting. I've been looking to buy an Intel NUC but this throws …Interesting. I've been looking to buy an Intel NUC but this throws something else into the equation.Any thoughts on vs NUC?


NUC obviously doesn't do AMD APUs, which are better graphically than Intel APUs, so that's the extent of my thought on them.
M1sterDeeds1 h, 54 m ago

Interesting. I've been looking to buy an Intel NUC but this throws …Interesting. I've been looking to buy an Intel NUC but this throws something else into the equation.Any thoughts on vs NUC?



There's also an Intel version of this btw, the A310.

If you want the best integrated graphics you can get (outside of something extremely niche), the A300 with a Radeon 2400G is the rig for you. Bear in mind they're sensitive to RAM timings, so don't skimp on RAM if you want to get the best performance you can get out of it. It''s a great value general machine that'll play games, especially esports titles like Overwatch (WOOO!) and LoL.

If you want straight CPU horsepower, the A310 will take an Intel Core i7 8700K 3.7GHz Hexa Core.

If you want the smallest and neatest, go NUC.

Those are thoughts, but if you want advice, it depends on your needs and budget.
M1sterDeeds3 h, 32 m ago

Interesting. I've been looking to buy an Intel NUC but this throws …Interesting. I've been looking to buy an Intel NUC but this throws something else into the equation.Any thoughts on vs NUC?


Along with everything else the guys above have said, NUC also supports thunderbolt 3. Might be a selling point to some due to 10 gigabit ethernet or eGPUs if DIY mini PCIe things aren't your thing.
Nice deal but this case looks like it will hoover the sitting room. No dust filters.
Or is the intention to host fully passive cooling builds?
Mugginz26/04/2019 23:47

Nice deal but this case looks like it will hoover the sitting room. No …Nice deal but this case looks like it will hoover the sitting room. No dust filters.Or is the intention to host fully passive cooling builds?



No, but filters kill airflow, so you would need more fans, more power, more noise.

I mean it shouldn't be an issue if you actually hoover the living room, and/or hoover the machine occasionally.

The only fan in it is the one you install (likely the Stealth that's boxed with the APU, minus the shroud.)

You can put a nice Noctua fan-based HSF assembly instead of you want.
Nexy5 h, 21 m ago

No, but filters kill airflow, so you would need more fans, more power, …No, but filters kill airflow, so you would need more fans, more power, more noise. I mean it shouldn't be an issue if you actually hoover the living room, and/or hoover the machine occasionally.The only fan in it is the one you install (likely the Stealth that's boxed with the APU, minus the shroud.) You can put a nice Noctua fan-based HSF assembly instead of you want.


Love noctua... Hate the brown / beige colour scheme xD
Looks like a Boyle convention from brooklyn 99
Nexy27/04/2019 01:57

No, but filters kill airflow, so you would need more fans, more power, …No, but filters kill airflow, so you would need more fans, more power, more noise. I mean it shouldn't be an issue if you actually hoover the living room, and/or hoover the machine occasionally.The only fan in it is the one you install (likely the Stealth that's boxed with the APU, minus the shroud.) You can put a nice Noctua fan-based HSF assembly instead of you want.


Just read somewhere that stealth fan is too big:
"It must be noted that the chassis design only allows for coolers up to 46mm in height - this means that the Wraith coolers (Stealth @ 54mm, Spire @ 71mm, and the Max @ 85m) are all unsupported. Users might be better off the optional cooler that ASRock advertises for use with the DeskMini A300."
M1sterDeeds12 h, 39 m ago

Interesting. I've been looking to buy an Intel NUC but this throws …Interesting. I've been looking to buy an Intel NUC but this throws something else into the equation.Any thoughts on vs NUC?


I have a intel canyon nuc..... I7-6770hq, 16gb ram, 256 m2 ssd......... Running as a charm, replacing my water cooling giant pc, as only playing global offensive, and its amazing 👌
Anything will play anything at 60fps if you don't state a resolution.
Ordered one of these the other day from CCL and it came yesterday. I also ordered from newegg for a total £14 delivered both the additional 2 usb 2 add on and the vesa mount.
Edited by: "colonelblighty" 27th Apr
Hook1eDook1e27/04/2019 08:57

Anything will play anything at 60fps if you don't state a resolution.


Not true. Lowering the resolution makes little to no impact on cpu requirements. A cpu that can only push 30fps at 4K will only push 30fps at 720p regardless of gpu choice.
stuellis27/04/2019 09:02

Not true. Lowering the resolution makes little to no impact on cpu …Not true. Lowering the resolution makes little to no impact on cpu requirements. A cpu that can only push 30fps at 4K will only push 30fps at 720p regardless of gpu choice.


The 2400G is a cpu/gpu combo.
Hook1eDook1e1 m ago

The 2400G is a cpu/gpu combo.


Completely agree with this, nice introductory setup with good upgrade path.
Quote from the above mentioned Anandtech review: "On the multimedia front, unfortunately a Ryzen APU-based SFF PC is not advisable for anything beyond the most casual of uses. The hardware itself is actually rather capable (as noted above), but the the current state of the Radeon drivers holds it back. Overall, as a vanilla 1080p playback machine with minimal DRM requirements (read, playback of YouTube videos and basic Netflix streaming), it can do a decent job (assuming power efficiency is not a big factor). However, as soon as we get to more contemporary or arcane requirements (Netflix with 4K HDR, VP9 Profile 2 playback with open source software like VLC or MPC-HC, or UHD Blu-ray support), we run into driver issues or hardware limitations, as described in the HTPC sections."

Be aware.

URL here once more: anandtech.com/sho…/11
Edited by: "hindsight1" 27th Apr
hindsight127/04/2019 09:46

Quote from the above mentioned Anandtech review: "On the multimedia front, …Quote from the above mentioned Anandtech review: "On the multimedia front, unfortunately a Ryzen APU-based SFF PC is not advisable for anything beyond the most casual of uses. The hardware itself is actually rather capable (as noted above), but the the current state of the Radeon drivers holds it back. Overall, as a vanilla 1080p playback machine with minimal DRM requirements (read, playback of YouTube videos and basic Netflix streaming), it can do a decent job (assuming power efficiency is not a big factor). However, as soon as we get to more contemporary or arcane requirements (Netflix with 4K HDR, VP9 Profile 2 playback with open source software like VLC or MPC-HC, or UHD Blu-ray support), we run into driver issues or hardware limitations, as described in the HTPC sections."Be aware.URL here once more: https://www.anandtech.com/show/14251/asrock-deskmini-a300-review-an-affordable-diy-amd-ryzen-minipc/11


Yeah this put me off, one reason I poster the review, back to eyeing up the NUC8i5BEK although it's the more pricier option
4Real201627/04/2019 13:01

Yeah this put me off, one reason I poster the review, back to eyeing up …Yeah this put me off, one reason I poster the review, back to eyeing up the NUC8i5BEK although it's the more pricier option


I have that exact NUC and the CPU is actually very impressive (I used to have the NUC7i5). I think I bought mine for 300 back when eBay did a 10% off.
anony_mous27/04/2019 13:21

I have that exact NUC and the CPU is actually very impressive (I used to …I have that exact NUC and the CPU is actually very impressive (I used to have the NUC7i5). I think I bought mine for 300 back when eBay did a 10% off.


Out of interest, what ram and ssd did you go for
Kinio26th Apr

I am not up to date with linux support and kodi hw acceleration on amd apu …I am not up to date with linux support and kodi hw acceleration on amd apu but if it is any better than 2years ago then this is probably best media centre/emulation box out there. That is if you need x86 in your living room if not that shield/jetson or mi box will be better. Only real disadvantage i can see here is use of sodimm memorys, ryzen cpu's like fast ram memorys and fast sodimms are overpriced


the atomic pi is also an good option
Would this be any good for basic video editing using Premiere Pro? Was looking at putting together a full-size Ryzen system but this looks quite a neat form factor.
rudeboypeter1 h, 18 m ago

Would this be any good for basic video editing using Premiere Pro? Was …Would this be any good for basic video editing using Premiere Pro? Was looking at putting together a full-size Ryzen system but this looks quite a neat form factor.


Video editing benefits from fast CPU, lots of cores, lots of RAM and depending on the package you use, lots of cuda cores for GPU acceleration. You could, but it wouldn't be as fast or as cheap as you could make an equivalent phat PC. You could always get a micro ATX board and small case like a Kolink satellite and that would be cheaper and give you tons of space for storage as well.
Edited by: "Blurigard" 27th Apr
Cyril_Chambrier7 h, 41 m ago

Just read somewhere that stealth fan is too big:"It must be noted that the …Just read somewhere that stealth fan is too big:"It must be noted that the chassis design only allows for coolers up to 46mm in height - this means that the Wraith coolers (Stealth @ 54mm, Spire @ 71mm, and the Max @ 85m) are all unsupported. Users might be better off the optional cooler that ASRock advertises for use with the DeskMini A300."


The Stealth measurement includes the height of the shroud (The bit with "AMD" on) which is effectively purely cosmetic and removable. You can undo the screws and remove it. (I made reference to this in my reply you quoted.) As illustrated by Hardware Unboxed (1:15 in the video):

rudeboypeter4 h, 0 m ago

Would this be any good for basic video editing using Premiere Pro? Was …Would this be any good for basic video editing using Premiere Pro? Was looking at putting together a full-size Ryzen system but this looks quite a neat form factor.



@Blurigard has you covered. One thing I'd add is that you don't need an APU in a standard build, because you can add a graphics card as normal. You probably know that already, and the 2400G is good value anyway, but just making sure you know. A R7 2700X and an RX570 will maybe be more bang for buck!

If it's on the desk, consider noise, and look at the Be Quiet PSUs and undervolting GPUs.

(@Blurigard you're doing an awesome job of looking after this thread for an awesome deal. I'd already added heat, but if I could do it twice then I would.)
Edited by: "Nexy" 27th Apr
4Real20164 h, 16 m ago

Out of interest, what ram and ssd did you go for


I used the stuff I had with my NUC7i5. The RAM is some Cruical 2400MHz (said it was 'Mac specific'), 2x8GB - I only bought it because it got the pair for around £80 over a year ago which was pretty good at the time. Using a 960 Samsung EVO nvme 250GB as my boot drive and 500GB Cruical CT500MX500
For those on about eGPU just build a proper blooming machine instead of having to have 2 boxes
What ram would you go with for this?
DDR4 SODIMM (laptop RAM). I think 3200 is as fast as this supports. Although if you were going to put a low-end APU like the 200GE then you can go for cheaper 2666MHz RAM because that's all that processor supports.
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