Desktop PC -  AMD (Trinity) A6-5400K Black Edition Dual-Core Accelerated Processor - AMD Radeon HD 7540D Graphics - 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Memory - 500GB SATA Hard Drive - AMD A75 Chipset w/ SATA 6G & USB 3.0  - £239.99  Aria
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Desktop PC - AMD (Trinity) A6-5400K Black Edition Dual-Core Accelerated Processor - AMD Radeon HD 7540D Graphics - 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Memory - 500GB SATA Hard Drive - AMD A75 Chipset w/ SATA 6G & USB 3.0 - £239.99 Aria

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Found 26th Jan 2013
No operating system with this. CPU speed 2133 on Passmark. Radeon HD 7540D Graphics and USB 3.

On passmark ranked 4th best chip for value, probably a better measure for system builders rather than retail desktop customers.
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not sure if the passmark means that much but my ancient q6600 gets a score of nearly 3000, this seems pretty poor for a new-ish cpu?
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It is poor compared to cpu that are a lot faster on Passmark, yes, which is not the be all and end all of things. Good for somebody like me at this price, undemanding user with just a few relatively undemanding games for it in mind. With me looking for a desktop my kids will find useful in a few years time still, I am holding out for an A8 or A10 apu machine.
yus786

not sure if the passmark means that much but my ancient q6600 gets a … not sure if the passmark means that much but my ancient q6600 gets a score of nearly 3000, this seems pretty poor for a new-ish cpu?



Well yours is a quad core this is a dual core. This has a TDP of 65w and yours 105w. This also has a 192 shader graphics core.

So it gives two thirds the performance for two thirds of the power usage and comes with a inbuilt graphics core.

The A10-5800K is a third faster than yours uses the same power and has a 384 shader graphics core.
Not bad price, heat added.
Thought I'd include more info on system

Specifications:

• ARIAnet Gladiator Black Micro-ATX Case w/ 500W Power Supply
• AMD (Trinity) A6-5400K Black Edition Dual-Core 3.60GHz Accelerated Processor
• 8GB 1600MHz DDR3 (2x4096) Memory (64GB Max)
• DVD +/- RW Drive w/ m-Disk Support
• 500GB (7200rpm) SATA 6GB/s (SATA III) Hard Drive
• Graphics: AMD Radeon HD 7540D 1024MB GDDR3 Graphics - IGP Supports DirectX 11
• GIGABYTE™ AMD A75 Socket FM2 DDR3 PCI-Express Motherboard w/ SATA 6G & USB 3.0
• Integrated 7.1 Channel High Definition Audio

Technical Details:

Dimensions:
• Height: 350mm
• Width: 180mm
• Depth: 410mm

Interfaces:
• 6x SATA 6G Ports
• 1x PS/2 keyboard/mouse port
• 1x D-Sub / VGA Port
• 1x DVI-D Port
• 1x HDMI Port
• 2x USB 3.0 Ports
• 4x USB 2.0 Ports
• 1x RJ-45 LAN Port (10/100/1000)
• 3x Audio Jacks

Expansion:
• 2x PCI-e x16 GEN 2.0 Slots
• 1x PCI-e x1 Slot
• 1x PCI Slot

Also included with your system:

• Resource DVD(s) (Diagnostic & Drivers)
• 2 Meter Power Cord - UK
• Standard Warranty 1 year Collect & Return Hardware Support included with your PC
You can get a 6 year old Macbook for this price.
ChampionshipManager

You can get a 6 year old Macbook for this price.



Lovely. Worst comparison ever.
ChampionshipManager

You can get a 6 year old Macbook for this price.



Yes, you can also get 15 years old unMOT-ed Vauxhall Corsa for this price or a few hundreds chocolate cookies
6 year old macbook...hahahaha

As someone said a bad comparison

this is a desktop
This a new not a germ infected 6 year old laptop
This is new not a 6 year old low spec laptop
I think he meant that apple products are either too expensive for the spec/money or hold value.
Edited by: "DE4L3R" 26th Jan 2013
Is the graphics card good enough for some games at decent settings? Witcher 1? Fallout 3 GOTY? GTA4? F1 2010/11/12? Some randoms I've bought on Steam but never played!
Add a XFX HD 6450 for Hybrid crossfire

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cheap upgrade
Also overclock it to 4.4ghz+
This is a decent box for light gaming and internet. I've worked with these APUs recently and they barely put out any heat even under heavy loads; you can install silent heatpipe-based cooling and you'll never hear the fans spin up.

For gaming, it will run Crysis on medium-high very smoothly, but newer games like RAGE will chug because of their dependence on full-screen shaders.

In essence it's a "normal person's PC" circa 2000, before we all started panicking about framerates and fillrates and texelrates. It'll "just work".
royals

6 year old macbook...hahahahaAs someone said a bad comparisonthis is a … 6 year old macbook...hahahahaAs someone said a bad comparisonthis is a desktopThis a new not a germ infected 6 year old laptopThis is new not a 6 year old low spec laptop



He was joking...
Original Poster
Shrugg

This is a decent box for light gaming and internet. I've worked with … This is a decent box for light gaming and internet. I've worked with these APUs recently and they barely put out any heat even under heavy loads; you can install silent heatpipe-based cooling and you'll never hear the fans spin up.For gaming, it will run Crysis on medium-high very smoothly, but newer games like RAGE will chug because of their dependence on full-screen shaders.In essence it's a "normal person's PC" circa 2000, before we all started panicking about framerates and fillrates and texelrates. It'll "just work".



Too harsh, I bought the best PC £1000 could buy in 2004 and this is at least twice as fast, 4 times the ram and graphics power to leave it standing. Normal person's PC circa 2012.
aria.co.uk/Sup…pe=

Would this be more future proof while remaining good value?
simate

Lovely. Worst comparison ever.



think he was Sarcastically comparing it to this deal.

hotukdeals.com/dea…197
Original Poster
teenrol2

http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/Gladiator+X5800K-HD+Trinity+Quad-Core+Next+Day+Gaming+PC+?productId=53179&page=2&rqcType=Would this be more future proof while remaining good value?



ASDA had some A10s with Windows 8 on them for £349 a few weeks back.

hotukdeals.com/dea…806 - was never 189.99 that was the washer on the shelf underneath.
Edited by: "3spartan" 26th Jan 2013
ChampionshipManager

You can get a 6 year old Macbook for this price.



Well i thought it was funny anyway
3spartan

ASDA had some A10s with Windows 8 on them for £349 a few weeks back. … ASDA had some A10s with Windows 8 on them for £349 a few weeks back. http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/medion-akoya-desktop-189-99-instore-asda-newport-still-349-online-1425806 - was never 189.99 that was the washer on the shelf underneath.



Thanks, I'm still trying to get a gaming machine below £400 (something with a quad core and 8GB ram) but seems that it's one of the hardest deals to get if you're not willing to build it from scratch :S. Thanks again for your reply!
simate

Lovely. Worst comparison ever.



http://www.sxc.hu/pic/m/d/de/degrees/357020_plane_overhead.jpg
teenrol2

http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/Gladiator+X5800K-HD+Trinity+Quad-Core+Next+Day+Gaming+PC+?productId=53179&page=2&rqcType=Would this be more future proof while remaining good value?



Is it worth the extra for this unit?
teenrol2

Thanks, I'm still trying to get a gaming machine below £400 (something … Thanks, I'm still trying to get a gaming machine below £400 (something with a quad core and 8GB ram) but seems that it's one of the hardest deals to get if you're not willing to build it from scratch :S. Thanks again for your reply!



I really advise you build one if you can (it's incredibly easy, everything you need to know is on youtube/websites) as you'll save a fortune, even more if you don't mind buying refurb/second hand parts. This is my PC that I just built in the past few months:

£51 VTX Radeon HD 4890 1GB Graphics card
£44 M5A97 AM3+ AMD 970 DDR3 ATX Motherboard
£68 AMD Phenom II X4 - 3.2 GHz Quad-Core Processor
£65 OCZ - AGT3-25SAT3-120G Agility 3 Internal 2.5" SATA III - 6GB/s SSD HDD
£28 8GB (2 x 4GB) XMS3 DDR3 1600MHz DIMM 240-pin CL11 RAM
£19 CiT 750W Power Supply Unit with PSU and Dual 12V Rails - Black Edition

Total is £275, I also bought a keyboard & mouse for £10 each, had the case already but they can cost anywhere from £15 onwards, DVD drives are £10 or so, 26 for blu ray.

Anyway, I can run everything on max settings with no problems and is fast as hell thanks to the ssd!
Edited by: "PenguinsForAll" 26th Jan 2013
Pretty good, actually very good, but due to the fact that im a student, a desktop is very impractical.
ChampionshipManager

You can get a 6 year old Macbook for this price.



I take a few don't get your sarcasm
Good deal if you can't build your own computer. I have a list of parts for a decent £250 gaming machine if you know how to put it together...
I really advise you build one if you can (it's incredibly easy, everything you need to know is on youtube/websites) as you'll save a fortune, even more if you don't mind buying refurb/second hand parts. This is my PC that I just built in the past few months:

£51 VTX Radeon HD 4890 1GB Graphics card
£44 M5A97 AM3+ AMD 970 DDR3 ATX Motherboard
£68 AMD Phenom II X4 - 3.2 GHz Quad-Core Processor
£65 OCZ - AGT3-25SAT3-120G Agility 3 Internal 2.5" SATA III - 6GB/s SSD HDD
£28 8GB (2 x 4GB) XMS3 DDR3 1600MHz DIMM 240-pin CL11 RAM
£19 CiT 750W Power Supply Unit with PSU and Dual 12V Rails - Black Edition

Total is £275, I also bought a keyboard & mouse for £10 each, had the case already but they can cost anywhere from £15 onwards, DVD drives are £10 or so, 26 for blu ray.

Anyway, I can run everything on max settings with no problems and is fast as hell thanks to the ssd!
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No way can a 4890 run all games on max settings at a playable frame rate unless your monitor is a terrible resolution...

This is a better build imo:

Motherboard- Asus H61 £35

CPU- Intel G550 31.50

Power-Corsair 500w builder 44.64

H/drive- Seagate barracuda 38.40

Optical- Samsung 24x 13.99

Mem- Corsair 1333 2x2GB 16.99

Case- Akasa micro ATX 19.77

Graphics GTX 550Ti 79.99 (Maybe go for a AMD 7770, there were some good deals floating around on them last week.)

TOTAL £280.25


For someone who just wants a 'family' PC - not for any sort of demanding gaming (so decent graphics card not important), could anybody suggest a list of parts to do a 'build your own'?

I always hear people say 'you could build your own for less'.....which I am willing to have a go at, but it's knowing which parts to get that are decent and good value.

Looking to spend around £250.....but must have plenty RAM, USB 3.0 front and back, DVD r/w, decent processor, decent PSU (not noisy), 1TB plus hard drive. Doesn't have to have any OS, as can put my own on.

Any help much appreciated.....the zoostorm ones on ebuyer always get complaints about noisy PSU and there always seems to be something not great with any standard bundle that gets posted.

Many Thanks
scarty

For someone who just wants a 'family' PC - not for any sort of demanding … For someone who just wants a 'family' PC - not for any sort of demanding gaming (so decent graphics card not important), could anybody suggest a list of parts to do a 'build your own'?I always hear people say 'you could build your own for less'.....which I am willing to have a go at, but it's knowing which parts to get that are decent and good value.Looking to spend around £250.....but must have plenty RAM, USB 3.0 front and back, DVD r/w, decent processor, decent PSU (not noisy), 1TB plus hard drive. Doesn't have to have any OS, as can put my own on.Any help much appreciated.....the zoostorm ones on ebuyer always get complaints about noisy PSU and there always seems to be something not great with any standard bundle that gets posted.Many Thanks



Post above yours - swap graphics card for a fanless PSU.
Now £263.99

No way can a 4890 run all games on max settings at a playable frame rate … No way can a 4890 run all games on max settings at a playable frame rate unless your monitor is a terrible resolution...This is a better build imo: Motherboard- Asus H61 £35 etc



I'm quite tempted to have a go at building my own. So, if I buy all the products in that list, I will have everything I need to build a fully working desktop PC (except for OS , keyboard etc)?

Can you link a similar spec PC to show how much DIY would save over buying a pre-built machine?

Thanks!

Does this come with an ethernet card?

And would it be best to put windows 7 or 8 on this?
If you buy this can anyone recommend places to buy Windows 7? And also the best place for basics such as keyboard, mouse, wireless card etc
jaydeeuk1



Fair point, scrap metal retails for around this pice, you could maybe build yourself a 747.
It somewhat saddens me that even these cheap desktops don't come with an SSD. This one even has SATA 3 onboard and SSDs are crazy cheap now. I think *any* desktop sold in 2013 that has 2 or more drive slots and doesn't come with an SSD should be heavily criticised.

The difference in I/O performance between SSD and non-SSD systems is huge and it remains the single biggest upgrade you can give to an existing PC (assuming you're not trying to run an OS in 1GB or less of RAM - DDR3 is ludicrously cheap also, so anyone with less than 4GB RAM really needs to buy extra RAM right now).
rkl

It somewhat saddens me that even these cheap desktops don't come with an … It somewhat saddens me that even these cheap desktops don't come with an SSD. This one even has SATA 3 onboard and SSDs are crazy cheap now. I think *any* desktop sold in 2013 that has 2 or more drive slots and doesn't come with an SSD should be heavily criticised.The difference in I/O performance between SSD and non-SSD systems is huge and it remains the single biggest upgrade you can give to an existing PC (assuming you're not trying to run an OS in 1GB or less of RAM - DDR3 is ludicrously cheap also, so anyone with less than 4GB RAM really needs to buy extra RAM right now).



TBF there must be a ton of had disks till on the market, when you count refurbished ones to come I'd expect 5 or 10 years before SSDs become the norm.

I've an SSD upgrade in mine BTW.
OOS now
rkl

It somewhat saddens me that even these cheap desktops don't come with an … It somewhat saddens me that even these cheap desktops don't come with an SSD. This one even has SATA 3 onboard and SSDs are crazy cheap now. I think *any* desktop sold in 2013 that has 2 or more drive slots and doesn't come with an SSD should be heavily criticised.The difference in I/O performance between SSD and non-SSD systems is huge and it remains the single biggest upgrade you can give to an existing PC (assuming you're not trying to run an OS in 1GB or less of RAM - DDR3 is ludicrously cheap also, so anyone with less than 4GB RAM really needs to buy extra RAM right now).



Its a budget system, adding even a basic SSD drive would cost another £50-60 - a cost which the market the PC is aimed at would be put off by the higher price compared with similar systems.

I'm fairly certain Aria did some budget systems with SSD's at one point (around £300-400) but after having a quick look I can't see any. Their range gets updated frequently.
Good price, but bear in mind that if you are even slightly technically minded (or know someone that is!) you could build the same spec computer in around 2 hours and save yourself around £50 (I'm building basically the same PC for a friend in the next week, and I priced it at £235 including Win8 Pro upgrade and a 1TB HDD)

Also someone said that the Trinity chips give off hardly any heat - that's true when web browsing etc, but when gaming at any level they get VERY hot and can overheat quite easily. The best way of getting a cheap gaming rig right now is to go for a Pentium G860, together with either a HD7750, or secondhand HD6850.
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