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Desktop PC, Pentium Dual Core E6300 2.8GHz, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD, DVDRW, £229.99,Free Delivery @ Ebuyer
Desktop PC, Pentium Dual Core E6300 2.8GHz, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD, DVDRW, £229.99,Free Delivery @ Ebuyer

Desktop PC, Pentium Dual Core E6300 2.8GHz, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD, DVDRW, £229.99,Free Delivery @ Ebuyer

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The specs suit most requirements, cant find cheaper for the same specs.

Processor
* Intel Pentium Dual Core E6300 2.8GHz
* 2MB Cache
Memory
* 4GB DDR2 RAM
* 2 x DIMM slot
Hard Drive
* 500GB SATA II
Optical Drive
* DVDRW
Software
* Operating System: No Operating System
Display
* Monitor Not Included
Graphics
* Shared
Input Devices
* Keyboard and Mouse (not included)
Networking
* Network Interface: 10/100M LAN, Realtek® RTL8101E
Dimensions
* Depth 450mm
* Width 180mm
* Height 360mm
Interfaces
* 1 set 5.1 channel Audio jacks (3 jacks)
* 1 x PS/2 keyboard port
* 1 x PS/2 mouse port
* 1 x Parallel port
* 1 x Serial port
* 6 x USB 2.0 ports
* 1 x RJ45 LAN port
* 1 x VGA port
Warranty* 1 Year Manufacturer Warranty

51 Comments

No Operating System but still a good price :thumbsup:

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pretty good.

put the price in the title please

Bloody hell thats a good deal . I got the Dell one a couple of weeks ago for £177 , maybe i should have waited a little longer . Ah well got to say i love the one i got its super fast and only has 1gb memory .

This looks good, any PC bods able to comment?

shared graphics and no OS sucks.
oh well, cant complaing for its price.

its not a bad base to begin upgrading, throw in a graphics card, of course install an OS, and maybe later on when you feel you can justify the spend put in an quad/i5

Shared graphics aren't all that good, but for a lot of people who are not hard core gamers, they are perfectly reasonable. You can also install a Linux distribution (I'd recommend Debian personally) then there's nothing extra to shell out for.

Before everyone complains about using Linux, you really should try it first. Linux + Open Office (also free) gives Windows 7 and Office 2007 a pretty good run for it's money, and considering the price differential - it's a steal !

What chipset is it?

So is it still possible to put in a decent GPU to play all the lates gamest in reasonable settings? If so, what would be the best graphics card to put in?

God knows what sort of case, power supply, RAM and motherboard you are getting on a cheap system like this and only 1 year warranty.
For very little more (£15) you could build you own at Scan with named components from major manufacturers (Asus, Silverstone, Hitachi, Corsair) with longer warranties. E.g. 3 years for CPU, Mobo, HDD and longer for the RAM.

Good price for a decent spec, the E6300 chip is a good option as it supports Virtualization and is quicker than many C2Ds (]http//ww…GHz). I've been on the looking for a base unit to replace my ageing Pentium 4.

Chucking in a decent GPU will depend on the power supply installed in the machine. Mine turns up on Thursday so I can give you detailed specs and photos then...!

Agharta;6818376

God knows what sort of case, power supply, RAM and motherboard you are … God knows what sort of case, power supply, RAM and motherboard you are getting on a cheap system like this and only 1 year warranty.For very little more (£15) you could build you own at Scan with named components from major manufacturers (Asus, Silverstone, Hitachi, Corsair) with longer warranties. E.g. 3 years for CPU, Mobo, HDD and longer for the RAM.



I think it's fair to say you get what you pay for, and if you're after a cheap and cheerful machine then I'd say it's a good deal. I think your comment about a cheap system also applies to the hundreds of cheap Dells that appear and go hot on HUKD.

I've just read through the ebuyer product discussion on here: forums.ebuyer.com/sho…387

Motherboard - Foxconn G31MX-K
PSU - Only 250w

The PSU is fairly weak to work on good GPUs, but someone said that they can work with the e-save edition?

Maybe worth considering this
ebuyer.com/pro…490

With Q8300 2.5GHz for £285.25, tempted to get this and just swap the processor with my current E6600.

BeeKeeper;6816260

No Operating System but still a good price :thumbsup:


best to get the retail version anyway.....preinstalled with the infamous chocolate fireguard recovery disks are a waste of space

teshnit;6816835

its not a bad base to begin upgrading, throw in a graphics card, of … its not a bad base to begin upgrading, throw in a graphics card, of course install an OS, and maybe later on when you feel you can justify the spend put in an quad/i5



sorry to shoot you down, but core2duo and similar are TOTALLY different socket and architecture to corei5, and that's a different socket to corei7. not only that, the memory's usually different, core2 taking ddr2 and i5/i7 being ddr2

so, if you want future proofing you need to go with a base corei5 or i7 machine and ddr3 memory so you can upgrade

that said, unless you're a hard-core gamer a mid to high-end core2 duo or quad will run everything you'll ever need. just install ubuntu, use firefox for web, thunder (v 3 beta) for email, and openoffice and escape the microsoft rolling treadmill of perpetual patching and upgrades.

If you read the eBuyer discussion on this PC you'll see the results of my talking to eBuyer and ZooStorm about this system

It's a Foxconn Mobo with only 2 DIMMs (max 4GB) but has PCI-E for a GPU upgrade.

It only comes with a 250W PSU tho so unless you go for a VERY low end card (green edition/one which needs no separate power) you'd need to upgrade that too.

Otherwise it seems a good deal - the components for this are liekly to be over £200 so if you're phobic of DiY it's not a bad place to start - but adding an OS (£75) GPU (say £70) and a PSU (£50) and you've almost doubled the cost

Thing is - I'm lost as to why someone would be a desktop for anything other than games so it's hard to know what people want...

[QUOTE=MinerWilly;6816462]Bloody hell thats a good deal . I got the Dell one a couple of weeks ago for £177 , maybe i should have waited a little longer . Ah well got to say i love the one i got its super fast and only has 1gb memory .[/QUOTE

You got a good deal Miner i got same for 188 250hdd. With Win7 home full prem and norton security for 18mths incl.
4gb ram is not that expensive and for how it runs now i haven't upgraded yet as its fast with 1gb so far with win7. All i will do is upgrade graphics and add 2gb ram to 3GB(20 quid).

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therealjohnpeat;6819456

If you read the eBuyer discussion on this PC you'll see the results of my … If you read the eBuyer discussion on this PC you'll see the results of my talking to eBuyer and ZooStorm about this systemIt's a Foxconn Mobo with only 2 DIMMs (max 4GB) but has PCI-E for a GPU upgrade.It only comes with a 250W PSU tho so unless you go for a VERY low end card (green edition/one which needs no separate power) you'd need to upgrade that too.Otherwise it seems a good deal - the components for this are liekly to be over £200 so if you're phobic of DiY it's not a bad place to start - but adding an OS (£75) GPU (say £70) and a PSU (£50) and you've almost doubled the cost :(Thing is - I'm lost as to why someone would be a desktop for anything other than games so it's hard to know what people want...


are you serious? :thinking:

anyway, I have this spec PC and the PC uses 70W when cpu on 50-70% so still plenty spare for a reasonable powered gfx card.

csiman;6820300

are you serious? :thinking:anyway, I have this spec PC and the PC uses … are you serious? :thinking:anyway, I have this spec PC and the PC uses 70W when cpu on 50-70% so still plenty spare for a reasonable powered gfx card.



A 250W PSU is enough to run a CPU, 4GB, 2 HDDs a DVD, USBs but I'm not sold on it running some GPUs properly - and definately not those which have a 6pin input (which is most of the decent ones these days)

GPUs with 6 pin inputs need 75w through that alone - and a 250w PSU simply won't have that sort of power to spare. Most such GPUs recommend a 450W or better PSU - and for good reason.

It's important to realise that a 250W PSU probably isn't pushing anything like 250W reliably. Some 500W units have tested as low as 270W - there really is a lot of scamming goes on with cheap PSUs - and when their failure can result in random crashes/freezes or even damage to your system it's crucial you use a decent unit - IMO

As for the gaming thing - if all you do is browsing the web etc., then a laptop or nettop system would be better in 90% of cases surely - you only want that big case for things like GPUs or loads of HDDs/DVDs or that sort of thing?

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therealjohnpeat;6820352

A 250W PSU is enough to run a CPU, 4GB, 2 HDDs a DVD, USBs but I'm not … A 250W PSU is enough to run a CPU, 4GB, 2 HDDs a DVD, USBs but I'm not sold on it running some GPUs properly - and definately not those which have a 6pin input (which is most of the decent ones these days)GPUs with 6 pin inputs need 75w through that alone - and a 250w PSU simply won't have that sort of power to spare. Most such GPUs recommend a 450W or better PSU - and for good reason.It's important to realise that a 250W PSU probably isn't pushing anything like 250W reliably. Some 500W units have tested as low as 270W - there really is a lot of scamming goes on with cheap PSUs - and when their failure can result in random crashes/freezes or even damage to your system it's crucial you use a decent unit - IMOAs for the gaming thing - if all you do is browsing the web etc., then a laptop or nettop system would be better in 90% of cases surely - you only want that big case for things like GPUs or loads of HDDs/DVDs or that sort of thing?


well I have one and use it for loads of things and gaming isnt one of them (avi conversion, music etc etc). Much better spec value than a laptop / netbook and I cant see a netbook encoding a 90 min film from avi to dvd and burning in less than 20 mins like mine does.

therealjohnpeat;6820352

A 250W PSU is enough to run a CPU, 4GB, 2 HDDs a DVD, USBs but I'm not … A 250W PSU is enough to run a CPU, 4GB, 2 HDDs a DVD, USBs but I'm not sold on it running some GPUs properly - and definately not those which have a 6pin input (which is most of the decent ones these days)GPUs with 6 pin inputs need 75w through that alone - and a 250w PSU simply won't have that sort of power to spare. Most such GPUs recommend a 450W or better PSU - and for good reason.It's important to realise that a 250W PSU probably isn't pushing anything like 250W reliably. Some 500W units have tested as low as 270W - there really is a lot of scamming goes on with cheap PSUs - and when their failure can result in random crashes/freezes or even damage to your system it's crucial you use a decent unit - IMOAs for the gaming thing - if all you do is browsing the web etc., then a laptop or nettop system would be better in 90% of cases surely - you only want that big case for things like GPUs or loads of HDDs/DVDs or that sort of thing?



i also have this system but only e5300 and have added 7800gt another 320gb hd, card reader,dvdrw and runs fine. i read the comments on low psu and brought a 500w psu from ebuyer at same time,still sitting in box..Got windows 7 RC on now but have brought 7 from dixons for £44.95 connected to my dell 24" screen which was brought with mikeT help £ 139.:p

databar;6820946

i also have this system but only e5300 and have added 7800gt another … i also have this system but only e5300 and have added 7800gt another 320gb hd, card reader,dvdrw and runs fine. i read the comments on low psu and brought a 500w psu from ebuyer at same time,still sitting in box..Got windows 7 RC on now but have brought 7 from dixons for £44.95 connected to my dell 24" screen which was brought with mikeT help £ 139.:p



I recently attempted to repair a system which had been ruined by a cheap PSU - in the end I gave up as it appears to have screwed the RAM, Mobo and GPU - tho the CPU survived (not much consolation really).

A 7800GT isn't going to use much power - like most cards of it's vintage- but anyone buying a GPU now would be crazy to get anything less than a 9600GT/4770 and they both need proper juice.

Scrimping on the PSU is the stupidest thing in the world because when it fails (not if - WHEN) it can take out the rest of your system so easily.

This system would make a fine base for a basic gaming rig but people need to consider that it needs

An OS - £70-80
A GPU - £60-80
A better PSU - £50

Which makes for a £400-450 all done.

Anyone wanting a DVD ripping/encoding rig should probably look to a quad-core but gamers won't see much benefit from a quad yet so should stick with a dual...

Which makes for a £400-450 all done.
Look john we only want to spend £220, whats why a lot of people bought this system,we can upgrade from old computer (well i did) .We don't want to spend £400-£450 on a computer it't half your price, thats why we come hotuk DEALS.Have been running this comp for 9 months 247 for bit torrent, half life and not let me down yet.Would leave a netbook ,laptop on 247.:whistling:

cor! put 5 techies in a room . . . . .

Good price for what you're getting!

:thumbsup:

H&R

Ow, and hiya zirriz! welcome to hukd!

If you want a better PSU then take a look at the Novatech barebones systems. They use the same mainboard and have a 400W PSU.

i got this and added a Ati 4870

i bought a new power supply for it too

Good price for most peoples usage!

therealjohnpeat;6819456

Thing is - I'm lost as to why someone would be a desktop for anything … Thing is - I'm lost as to why someone would be a desktop for anything other than games so it's hard to know what people want...



Errr.. because they prefer them? I much prefer a proper (and decent) keyboard and mouse for a start and I like to be able to easily (and fairly cheaply) upgrade ANY part of my system when I want to, or if anything breaks on it. With a laptop, things are not so easily done... and also costs a hell of a lot more.

A PC is much more powerful, can store many more files on faster, larger hard drives and are generally more reliable due to being able to have more fans in them, no damage from taking them out and them being knocked about etc, bigger screens without having to use an 'extra' monitor or TV, able to use 2 internal cd/dvd drives if you want; I could go on more but I won't. ;-)

This is not a one size fits all item!:thumbsup::)

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ClaireDC;6824572

Errr.. because they prefer them? I much prefer a proper (and decent) … Errr.. because they prefer them? I much prefer a proper (and decent) keyboard and mouse for a start and I like to be able to easily (and fairly cheaply) upgrade ANY part of my system when I want to, or if anything breaks on it. With a laptop, things are not so easily done... and also costs a hell of a lot more.A PC is much more powerful, can store many more files on faster, larger hard drives and are generally more reliable due to being able to have more fans in them, no damage from taking them out and them being knocked about etc, bigger screens without having to use an 'extra' monitor or TV, able to use 2 internal cd/dvd drives if you want; I could go on more but I won't. ;-)This is not a one size fits all item!:thumbsup::)


well said. I was staggered as to why a so called 'expert' would not understand why people buy desktops unless they use it only for gaming! :w00t::thinking:

i hate using a laptop, we have two in our house and they are so fiddly and i cant surf as fast as i do on my desktop.....

that said i have been on the look out for a new pc (with lots of advice from people on here :thumbsup:) obviously many people think the E6300 posted in this deal is a good deal, but earlier in the thread "someperson" posted the quad core for £285......(ebuyer.com/pro…490)

and i have alos been advised of this system:

aria.co.uk/Sys…469

which would the techie experts go for out of the three pc's? (i do have XP on cd)

thanks...

steven gerrard;6826493

i hate using a laptop, we have two in our house and they are so fiddly … i hate using a laptop, we have two in our house and they are so fiddly and i cant surf as fast as i do on my desktop.....that said i have been on the look out for a new pc (with lots of advice from people on here :thumbsup:) obviously many people think the E6300 posted in this deal is a good deal, but earlier in the thread "someperson" posted the quad core for £285......(http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176490)and i have alos been advised of this system:http://www.aria.co.uk/Systems/Special+Offers/AriaNet+Value/OP3+Tetra+Intel+Quad+Core+Base+Unit+?productId=38469which would the techie experts go for out of the three pc's? (i do have XP on cd) thanks...



Can give you some more info on this deal on Thursday, when mine turns up.

Info on on the chip:

"Intel continues to use the Pentium brand name for its series of downscaled Core 2 series processors between the Core 2 Duo and Celeron lines. The most peculiar part of the name is its model number "E6300", which that has been used by one of the earliest Core 2 Duo models. The Pentium E6300 however, is the faster chip. While the Core 2 Duo E6300 is clocked at 1.86 GHz, with 2 MB of L2 cache and 1066 MHz FSB, the Pentium E6300 is clocked at 2.80 GHz with the same FSB speed and L2 cache size.

The Pentium E6300 achieves its 2.80 GHz speed with a bus multiplier of 10.5 (x 266 MHz). It is based on the 45 nm Wolfdale-2M core. The model follows the Pentium E5400 (2.70 GHz, 13.5 x 200 MHz) and falls into the E6000 series for having the 1066 MHz FSB. So in essence, it falls between the E5000 series' use of the Wolfdale-2M core, and the E7000 series' use of the 1066 MHz FSB."

waby1234;6830649

Can give you some more info on this deal on Thursday, when mine turns up.



thanks mate, which one have you ordered? is it the £229 dual core or the £285 quad core version?

Unless you are a heavy duty gamer or do a lot of media encoding then a quad core is overkill tbh.

steven gerrard;6831029

thanks mate, which one have you ordered? is it the £229 dual core or the … thanks mate, which one have you ordered? is it the £229 dual core or the £285 quad core version?



The £229 dual core. Only extra I ordered was a IDE to SATA adapter so I can connect my old IDE drives to copy across music etc.

MagicBoy;6832246

Unless you are a heavy duty gamer or do a lot of media encoding then a … Unless you are a heavy duty gamer or do a lot of media encoding then a quad core is overkill tbh.



cheers mate

thing with me is im not like that, but i am a person that has multiple windows open at the same time, all of which run scripts etc

i use betfair, trading websites, spreadsheets etc etc and all of these thigns eeem to slow my current pc down quite alot, especially with mutliple firefox windows open at the sametime.....

would buying a quad core allow my pc to run at a smooth speed, not lock up and freeze whilst having all that kind of stuff running at the sametime??

thanks


waby1234: thanks, keep me posted when you get it etc

ClaireDC;6824572

Errr.. because they prefer them? I much prefer a proper (and decent) … Errr.. because they prefer them? I much prefer a proper (and decent) keyboard and mouse for a start and I like to be able to easily (and fairly cheaply) upgrade ANY part of my system when I want to, or if anything breaks on it. With a laptop, things are not so easily done... and also costs a hell of a lot more.A PC is much more powerful, can store many more files on faster, larger hard drives and are generally more reliable due to being able to have more fans in them, no damage from taking them out and them being knocked about etc, bigger screens without having to use an 'extra' monitor or TV, able to use 2 internal cd/dvd drives if you want; I could go on more but I won't. ;-)This is not a one size fits all item!:thumbsup::)



well said

waby1234;6830703

Info on on the chip: " the Wolfdale-2M core"



Thats the important thing...........the Wolfdale-2M core!

WTF! - Anyone any ideas?

steven gerrard;6826493

i hate using a laptop, we have two in our house and they are so fiddly … i hate using a laptop, we have two in our house and they are so fiddly and i cant surf as fast as i do on my desktop.....that said i have been on the look out for a new pc (with lots of advice from people on here :thumbsup:) obviously many people think the E6300 posted in this deal is a good deal, but earlier in the thread "someperson" posted the quad core for £285......(http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176490)and i have alos been advised of this system:http://www.aria.co.uk/Systems/Special+Offers/AriaNet+Value/OP3+Tetra+Intel+Quad+Core+Base+Unit+?productId=38469which would the techie experts go for out of the three pc's? (i do have XP on cd) thanks...



This has gone upto 299.99.

I personally always try to go for the highest processor that I can afford, but these are budget systems so depends what you want.
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