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Dimmable Halogen Spotlights MR16 - Pack of 2 - 25p Instore @ Homebase (Luton)
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Nice find @emmy_shabz - thanks for taking the time to share (and welcome to the community)
These are cheap for a reason. LEDs use far less energy and have much longer life. Halogen bulbs are on their way out.

I'm always up for a bargain but I wouldn't have these if I was paid to take them away.
True they don’t last but they dim so much nicer than LED dimmables. If I didn’t use my dimmer switches I’d have a full house of LED.
Edited by: "Taka_nai" 22nd Jul
Taka_nai22/07/2019 06:54

True they don’t last but they dim so much nicer than LED ones. If I didn’t …True they don’t last but they dim so much nicer than LED ones. If I didn’t use my dimmer switches I’d have a full house of LED.


You’ll need dimmable LEDS
applejammer22/07/2019 07:49

You’ll need dimmable LEDS


I have them upstairs in all the rooms and I hate them! As I said, they just don’t dim as nice as halogen
pcs703822/07/2019 06:47

These are cheap for a reason. LEDs use far less energy and have much …These are cheap for a reason. LEDs use far less energy and have much longer life. Halogen bulbs are on their way out.I'm always up for a bargain but I wouldn't have these if I was paid to take them away.


"On the way out": surely not they have GONE. The stuff here about LED's not dimming is because the purchaser bought non-dimmable LEDS
Saving on the bulb cost, yes, but the ongoing electricity cost is high. You’re better off with LEDs.
Edited by: "sicklysweet" 22nd Jul
Chris060922/07/2019 08:43

"On the way out": surely not they have GONE. The stuff here about LED's …"On the way out": surely not they have GONE. The stuff here about LED's not dimming is because the purchaser bought non-dimmable LEDS


Can people stop assuming. The LED’s I have are dimmable and they dim... but not as nice as the halogens I have too. I mean have you lot ever compared the two? No, I didn’t think so.
Taka_nai22/07/2019 09:02

Can people stop assuming. The LED’s I have are dimmable and they dim... b …Can people stop assuming. The LED’s I have are dimmable and they dim... but not as nice as the halogens I have too. I mean have you lot ever compared the two? No, I didn’t think so.


I changed from dimmable halogen to dimmable LED and tbh don’t see any difference. I’ve got warm white some in parts of the house (like bedroom) and cool white in others (like kitchen). Maybe you need to buy a different brand? Also make sure your dimming switches are suitable for LEDs.
Edited by: "sicklysweet" 22nd Jul
sicklysweet22/07/2019 09:08

I changed from dimmable halogen to dimmable LED and tbh don’t see any d …I changed from dimmable halogen to dimmable LED and tbh don’t see any difference. I’ve got warm white some in parts of the house (like bedroom) and cool white in others (like kitchen). Maybe you need to buy a different brand?


Yeah, that’s most likely. I would change to another brand if there were any deals but haven’t come across any recently. I’d need about 40 bulbs. I’m using two different brands... the glass ones look and dim better than the others but don’t dim as low as the halogens - atm have halogens and LED’s in one room so it’s really noticeable to me.
Taka_nai22/07/2019 10:11

Yeah, that’s most likely. I would change to another brand if there were a …Yeah, that’s most likely. I would change to another brand if there were any deals but haven’t come across any recently. I’d need about 40 bulbs. I’m using two different brands... the glass ones look and dim better than the others but don’t dim as low as the halogens - atm have halogens and LED’s in one room so it’s really noticeable to me.


Double check your dimmer switches are suitable for LED bulbs too.

I like the phillips branded dimmable LEDs. Maybe do a camelcamelcamel price alert on them for amazon
I've got about 50 x 50W 12 volt halogen downlights in my house, my electric bill is about £8 per week, this includes everything, not just lighting, so TV's, fridge/freezer, washing machine, oven, hob, PC's etc. etc. I would imagine the lighting is just a small part of that, maybe £2 of it a week if that.

You can get a half decent LED dimmable downlight for about £2, I would need a GU10 lamp holder as well at about £1 each, to get them dimming properly I would have to change the modules, they are about £13 each and I've got 12 of them, so that's a total cost of £306 plus what it would cost to get an electrician in for most people (I am one) say £200 for the day giving a total of £506.

The LED's still use electricity but only about 1/10 of halogens so in my case about 20p per week so I would save £1.80 per week, so to break even everything needs to last for about 5 years at least. It may work out in favour of LEDs in the end but in my opinion the savings are that small its not worth upgrading to LED if you already have halogens, especially if they are on dimmers, I hardly ever change any lamps because they are always dimmed down extending the lamp life massively. Another point, a lot of energy is lost through halogen lamps via heat - except its not lost in the winter is it, all the heat of those lamps is contributing to heating the room so the boiler doesn't have to work as hard, swap for LED's and you have to factor in extra gas or electric being used to heat that same space.

Basically the best way to save energy on lighting or anything else for that matter is to switch the thing off again when you're not using it.
Oscar12345422/07/2019 11:04

I've got about 50 x 50W 12 volt halogen downlights in my house, my …I've got about 50 x 50W 12 volt halogen downlights in my house, my electric bill is about £8 per week, this includes everything, not just lighting, so TV's, fridge/freezer, washing machine, oven, hob, PC's etc. etc. I would imagine the lighting is just a small part of that, maybe £2 of it a week if that.You can get a half decent LED dimmable downlight for about £2, I would need a GU10 lamp holder as well at about £1 each, to get them dimming properly I would have to change the modules, they are about £13 each and I've got 12 of them, so that's a total cost of £306 plus what it would cost to get an electrician in for most people (I am one) say £200 for the day giving a total of £506.The LED's still use electricity but only about 1/10 of halogens so in my case about 20p per week so I would save £1.80 per week, so to break even everything needs to last for about 5 years at least. It may work out in favour of LEDs in the end but in my opinion the savings are that small its not worth upgrading to LED if you already have halogens, especially if they are on dimmers, I hardly ever change any lamps because they are always dimmed down extending the lamp life massively. Another point, a lot of energy is lost through halogen lamps via heat - except its not lost in the winter is it, all the heat of those lamps is contributing to heating the room so the boiler doesn't have to work as hard, swap for LED's and you have to factor in extra gas or electric being used to heat that same space.Basically the best way to save energy on lighting or anything else for that matter is to switch the thing off again when you're not using it.


50 x 50W bulbs @ 14p a unit cost 35p an hour to run. Averaging 2 hours a day is £4.90 a week. As opposed to £0.74for LED assuming, 15% of power consumption.
If you MR16 LED bulbs do exist but GU10 are more readily available. Also if you have enough LEDs in a string you don’t always need new controllers.

As for heat, electricity heat lost into a ceiling cavity costs about 4times what a GCH boiler will.

Also the halogens tend to burn out after about 500 hours, adding to costs.
Oneday7722/07/2019 11:31

50 x 50W bulbs @ 14p a unit cost 35p an hour to run. Averaging 2 hours a …50 x 50W bulbs @ 14p a unit cost 35p an hour to run. Averaging 2 hours a day is £4.90 a week. As opposed to £0.74for LED assuming, 15% of power consumption. If you MR16 LED bulbs do exist but GU10 are more readily available. Also if you have enough LEDs in a string you don’t always need new controllers. As for heat, electricity heat lost into a ceiling cavity costs about 4times what a GCH boiler will. Also the halogens tend to burn out after about 500 hours, adding to costs.


You can't go by averages though, if I'm spending £4.90 per week on lighting then that must mean I'm only spending £3.10 on everything else, I doubt that. Some of the lights hardly ever get turned on, like the spare bedroom for e.g. Like I said the best way to save money is switch something off when you are done with it, a switched off halogen lamp down't use any more electric than a switched off LED lamp.
Oscar12345422/07/2019 11:38

You can't go by averages though, if I'm spending £4.90 per week on …You can't go by averages though, if I'm spending £4.90 per week on lighting then that must mean I'm only spending £3.10 on everything else, I doubt that. Some of the lights hardly ever get turned on, like the spare bedroom for e.g. Like I said the best way to save money is switch something off when you are done with it, a switched off halogen lamp down't use any more electric than a switched off LED lamp.


I agree you can’t go by averages. People need to weigh up their own usage.
What you can’t do is give the impression that LED won’t save money.
For most it’s a case of switching bulb and nothing else.
Oneday7722/07/2019 12:29

I agree you can’t go by averages. People need to weigh up their own usage. …I agree you can’t go by averages. People need to weigh up their own usage. What you can’t do is give the impression that LED won’t save money. For most it’s a case of switching bulb and nothing else.


I don't believe that most people in a domestic situation will save enough to notice any difference, even if its a straight swap. I agree that in a shop environment where everything is on all day then it pays eventually but even so, 2 years ago we did some re-fits on some chemists and swapped from fluorescent to LED, they were promised a payback time of 3 years but now its looking like at least 6 years before they break even so they say.
Oscar12345422/07/2019 13:48

I don't believe that most people in a domestic situation will save enough …I don't believe that most people in a domestic situation will save enough to notice any difference, even if its a straight swap. I agree that in a shop environment where everything is on all day then it pays eventually but even so, 2 years ago we did some re-fits on some chemists and swapped from fluorescent to LED, they were promised a payback time of 3 years but now its looking like at least 6 years before they break even so they say.


Of course they will.
A £2 LED bulb at 5W will take about 290h of run time to break even, compared to a 50W halogen.
Yes it depends on the room, actual chosen bulb wattage etc.
After that every 285 hours costs 20p not £2

I’ve done my maths, my whole house is LED and has been for years. Admittedly I went HUE which has a far greater ROI. (Initially it was just ‘dumb’ LED lights, between filament and HUE)

Fluorescent to LED is very different. Fluorescent is a much more efficient lighting system. Though has its own problems.

Home reports frequently show on the energy reports lighting being a point of improvement. Going LED has other benefits too. It also isn’t necessarily liked due to designs of the beam pattern and colours, which is a different topic.
Taka_nai22/07/2019 09:02

Can people stop assuming. The LED’s I have are dimmable and they dim... b …Can people stop assuming. The LED’s I have are dimmable and they dim... but not as nice as the halogens I have too. I mean have you lot ever compared the two? No, I didn’t think so.


Bet your dimmer is not suitable for LED's: honestly you will not know the difference: no flicker: no jumping in steps: My Led dimmed lights are perfect
Chris060922/07/2019 22:00

Bet your dimmer is not suitable for LED's: honestly you will not know the …Bet your dimmer is not suitable for LED's: honestly you will not know the difference: no flicker: no jumping in steps: My Led dimmed lights are perfect



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No, I can definitely see the difference but nice try.

Also, none of the lights flicker or jump steps. It’s just a preference not actually a problem. And if I was interested in saving money I wouldn’t have put the downlights up in the first place in addition to the main lights in the room. But since people are keen on telling me I’m going wrong... please do enlighten me some more!
What else do people have to offer? I’m still here listening
Edited by: "Taka_nai" 22nd Jul
Taka_nai22/07/2019 22:11

[Image] No, I can definitely see the difference but nice try. Also, none …[Image] No, I can definitely see the difference but nice try. Also, none of the lights flicker or jump steps. It’s just a preference not actually a problem. And if I was interested in saving money I wouldn’t have put the downlights up in the first place in addition to the main lights in the room. But since people are keen on telling me I’m going wrong... please do enlighten me some more! What else do people have to offer? I’m still here listening


I'm quite indifferent as to what lighting you use: some people hate cd's and downloads and prefer LP's:its all personal preference. If I were you I would stock up on Halogen as I cant see them being around very long. The heat is my bug bear: Halogen get very very hot.
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