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Posted 25th Sep
Just bought this for my laddie, seemed like a great price, the 30mm is £15 more

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  • About this product
  • View the moon, other planets and the stars with this 40mm telescope from Discovery Channel. It boasts 25-50 times magnification.

  • Includes instruction manual.

  • For ages 8 years and over.
  • EAN: 5060062143201.
  • WARNING(S):

  • Not suitable for children under 3 years old.
  • Only for domestic use.
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rufnek2kx25/09/2019 22:38

What should you expect to see with this?


Things that are far away will look much closer.
rufnek2kx25/09/2019 22:38

What should you expect to see with this?


Don't have experience with this particular telescope or its quality, but with this aperture you should be able to see:
Moon - seas and most prominent craters and mountain ranges.
Jupiter - if you have good sight, couple of Galileo moons.
Saturn - perhaps rings, but don't expect too much.
Brightest globular and open clusters.
Double stars where stars are far away from each other. E.g. albireo or mizar&alcor.
Brightest galaxies - M31 and M33 as smudges if you got great sky.

Don't look at Sun without proper sun filter!
"Only for domestic use"


Yes, not much good if you take it outside.

Seriously, Patrick Moore of "Sky at Night" fame (now deceased) always inveighed against these cheap scopes and recommended binoculars for beginners instead. You can easily see Jupiter's four moons with binoculars, they are easier to use and also useful for daytime viewing here on Earth. Small cheap scopes are essentially a waste of money and a disappointment to a child who will have unrealistic expectations anyway. The usual advice on size is that refractors should have an aperture of at least 70mm and reflectors at least 100mm. This is a matter of physics, aperture being directly related to resolving power. The magnifications in the advertisements mean nothing- you will see big dim fuzzy blobs unless the instrument has the aperture to resolve the detail. The optical quality of the main lens or mirror is important too, but harder to quantify.
Flappybunnyman25/09/2019 20:55

Prepare yourself MrSwitch. There is bound to be the Telescopic Pro’s c …Prepare yourself MrSwitch. There is bound to be the Telescopic Pro’s commenting about how rubbish this is, not to bother, and instead buy a different one for £399+


I used to be an astronomer, this is rubbish, don't bother, buy a different one for £399+. Seriously now, for a 6 year old it's fine, stick to the Moon, it'll look great, the other objects mentioned by nknotek will be visible, but probably not worth more than one look. This scope is quite portable, so take it out and about and use it as a terrestrial item, birds, scenery, ships, buildings, bedroom windows will look really good even with a small scope like this. Fantastic value.
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Thanks, ordered.
hoggy9925/09/2019 20:19

Thanks, ordered.


Hoping it's good, my little boy is well into space atm, so thought it be perfect for him.
Noticing more and more non phone deals sneaking in from you @MrSwitch

Is that even allowed

There’s was a non smart watch this morning and now a telescope

You even posted trainers the other day.
myusernamehasgone23425/09/2019 20:47

Noticing more and more non phone deals sneaking in from you @MrSwitch …Noticing more and more non phone deals sneaking in from you @MrSwitch Is that even allowedThere’s was a non smart watch this morning and now a telescope You even posted trainers the other day.


Haha.... Back to phones tomorrow mate.

This is for my 6 year old, was looking around for one, and being the deal seeker I am, bought it, then posted it
MrSwitch25/09/2019 20:49

Haha.... Back to phones tomorrow mate. This is for my 6 year old, was …Haha.... Back to phones tomorrow mate. This is for my 6 year old, was looking around for one, and being the deal seeker I am, bought it, then posted it


I’ll sleep better tonight knowing normal service will resume tomorrow.

Hope kiddo likes the telescope btw.
myusernamehasgone23425/09/2019 20:51

I’ll sleep better tonight knowing normal service will resume tomorrow.Hope …I’ll sleep better tonight knowing normal service will resume tomorrow.Hope kiddo likes the telescope btw.


That will be one of many toys that good old santa clause will slip down that chimney we don't have, how does he do it?
Prepare yourself MrSwitch. There is bound to be the Telescopic Pro’s commenting about how rubbish this is, not to bother, and instead buy a different one for £399+
MrSwitch25/09/2019 20:52

That will be one of many toys that good old santa clause will slip down …That will be one of many toys that good old santa clause will slip down that chimney we don't have, how does he do it?


It’s like Christmas miracle isn’t it

Do those pesky elves visit your place too?
myusernamehasgone23425/09/2019 20:55

It’s like Christmas miracle isn’t itDo those pesky elves visit your place t …It’s like Christmas miracle isn’t itDo those pesky elves visit your place too?


They do, they do
What should you expect to see with this?
rufnek2kx25/09/2019 22:38

What should you expect to see with this?


Things that are far away will look much closer.
rufnek2kx25/09/2019 22:38

What should you expect to see with this?


Don't have experience with this particular telescope or its quality, but with this aperture you should be able to see:
Moon - seas and most prominent craters and mountain ranges.
Jupiter - if you have good sight, couple of Galileo moons.
Saturn - perhaps rings, but don't expect too much.
Brightest globular and open clusters.
Double stars where stars are far away from each other. E.g. albireo or mizar&alcor.
Brightest galaxies - M31 and M33 as smudges if you got great sky.

Don't look at Sun without proper sun filter!
mknotek26/09/2019 00:07

Don't have experience with this particular telescope or its quality, but …Don't have experience with this particular telescope or its quality, but with this aperture you should be able to see:Moon - seas and most prominent craters and mountain ranges.Jupiter - if you have good sight, couple of Galileo moons.Saturn - perhaps rings, but don't expect too much.Brightest globular and open clusters.Double stars where stars are far away from each other. E.g. albireo or mizar&alcor.Brightest galaxies - M31 and M33 as smudges if you got great sky.Don't look at Sun without proper sun filter!


Thanks
Flappybunnyman25/09/2019 20:55

Prepare yourself MrSwitch. There is bound to be the Telescopic Pro’s c …Prepare yourself MrSwitch. There is bound to be the Telescopic Pro’s commenting about how rubbish this is, not to bother, and instead buy a different one for £399+


I used to be an astronomer, this is rubbish, don't bother, buy a different one for £399+. Seriously now, for a 6 year old it's fine, stick to the Moon, it'll look great, the other objects mentioned by nknotek will be visible, but probably not worth more than one look. This scope is quite portable, so take it out and about and use it as a terrestrial item, birds, scenery, ships, buildings, bedroom windows will look really good even with a small scope like this. Fantastic value.
gkbeckmann26/09/2019 07:49

I used to be an astronomer, this is rubbish, don't bother, buy a different …I used to be an astronomer, this is rubbish, don't bother, buy a different one for £399+. Seriously now, for a 6 year old it's fine, stick to the Moon, it'll look great, the other objects mentioned by nknotek will be visible, but probably not worth more than one look. This scope is quite portable, so take it out and about and use it as a terrestrial item, birds, scenery, ships, buildings, bedroom windows will look really good even with a small scope like this. Fantastic value.


Kids find new ways of being adventurous, as a child I used to watch neighbours TV with binoculars and of course the good old grease trick
Flappybunnyman25/09/2019 20:55

Prepare yourself MrSwitch. There is bound to be the Telescopic Pro’s c …Prepare yourself MrSwitch. There is bound to be the Telescopic Pro’s commenting about how rubbish this is, not to bother, and instead buy a different one for £399+


Aye, never mind, was expecting it, but a 6 year old amazed by a star, and the moon, is all I wanted it for
gkbeckmann26/09/2019 07:49

I used to be an astronomer, this is rubbish, don't bother, buy a different …I used to be an astronomer, this is rubbish, don't bother, buy a different one for £399+. Seriously now, for a 6 year old it's fine, stick to the Moon, it'll look great, the other objects mentioned by nknotek will be visible, but probably not worth more than one look. This scope is quite portable, so take it out and about and use it as a terrestrial item, birds, scenery, ships, buildings, bedroom windows will look really good even with a small scope like this. Fantastic value.


£12.50, you can't expect to see the moons of jupiter
gkbeckmann26/09/2019 07:49

I used to be an astronomer, this is rubbish, don't bother, buy a different …I used to be an astronomer, this is rubbish, don't bother, buy a different one for £399+. Seriously now, for a 6 year old it's fine, stick to the Moon, it'll look great, the other objects mentioned by nknotek will be visible, but probably not worth more than one look. This scope is quite portable, so take it out and about and use it as a terrestrial item, birds, scenery, ships, buildings, bedroom windows will look really good even with a small scope like this. Fantastic value.



How does it compare to this?


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"Only for domestic use"


Yes, not much good if you take it outside.

Seriously, Patrick Moore of "Sky at Night" fame (now deceased) always inveighed against these cheap scopes and recommended binoculars for beginners instead. You can easily see Jupiter's four moons with binoculars, they are easier to use and also useful for daytime viewing here on Earth. Small cheap scopes are essentially a waste of money and a disappointment to a child who will have unrealistic expectations anyway. The usual advice on size is that refractors should have an aperture of at least 70mm and reflectors at least 100mm. This is a matter of physics, aperture being directly related to resolving power. The magnifications in the advertisements mean nothing- you will see big dim fuzzy blobs unless the instrument has the aperture to resolve the detail. The optical quality of the main lens or mirror is important too, but harder to quantify.
Whilst you can't criticise the price for a toy telescope , at f12. 5 this is going to be challenging to use. It will save you money in the long run though as it will put any child off astronomy for life, hence saving you the cost of a decent scope or pair of binoculars.
Edited by: "bluenotetim1" 26th Sep
This is really not very good quality. Plastic, light weight, not stable, hard to focus. Kids got one as a gift last year, tried it a handful of times. Just gathering dust now.
Edited by: "guruofknowledge" 26th Sep
mknotek26/09/2019 00:07

Don't look at Sun without proper sun filter!


Don't look at the sun at all!
gkbeckmann26/09/2019 07:49

I used to be an astronomer, this is rubbish, don't bother, buy a different …I used to be an astronomer, this is rubbish, don't bother, buy a different one for £399+. Seriously now, for a 6 year old it's fine, stick to the Moon, it'll look great, the other objects mentioned by nknotek will be visible, but probably not worth more than one look. This scope is quite portable, so take it out and about and use it as a terrestrial item, birds, scenery, ships, buildings, bedroom windows will look really good even with a small scope like this. Fantastic value.


Remember astronomical telescopes normally have an inverted image. So for terrestrial viewing eg neighbour's bedroom etc. Every thing is upside down
rufnek2kx25/09/2019 22:38

What should you expect to see with this?


Neighbours window;)
frankie1g26/09/2019 10:43

Remember astronomical telescopes normally have an inverted image. So for …Remember astronomical telescopes normally have an inverted image. So for terrestrial viewing eg neighbour's bedroom etc. Every thing is upside down


69, 96 all the same
Edit - This was wrong, I remembered entirely the wrong rule of thumb lol. I realised as soon as I read this back. It’s actually about double the diameter in mm! That value below is the *lowest* usable magnification.

I would still recommend binoculars for the ease of use. (At high magnifications your really need a good, solid and well built tripod.)

Original incorrect post for posterity:

The rule of thumb with telescopes is that the highest useful magnification is the diameter in mm divided by 7. So in this case you’ll get maybe 4-5x magnification. At that range binoculars - even £15 ones - are probably a better choice, particularly as you won’t have to fuss with finding something to stand that tiny tripod on top of.

You’ll see the moon OK at that magnification and maybe Jupiter and its moons as different sized dots, but Saturn’s rings are going to be too small.
Edited by: "Sockatume" 26th Sep
Is it possible to see any of the planets during the daytime
Could anyone recommend any good binoculars for this
Could anyone recommend a decent telescope for the kids isn't gonna break the bank.

Round about the £30 - £50 mark
Garry_Muir26/09/2019 11:43

Could anyone recommend a decent telescope for the kids isn't gonna break …Could anyone recommend a decent telescope for the kids isn't gonna break the bank. Round about the £30 - £50 mark



About as close as you'll get to decent at that price I'd say:
firstlightoptics.com/beg…tml
tenohfive26/09/2019 11:48

About as close as you'll get to decent at that price I'd …About as close as you'll get to decent at that price I'd say:https://www.firstlightoptics.com/beginner-telescopes/skywatcher-heritage-76-mini-dobsonian.html


Yep, this or any one of the rebranded versions, especially with lower power eyepieces (higher numbers of mm). I used a Cometron version with 10mm and 20mm eyepieces and was amazed at what it could do.
When Santa was responding to my kids request for a telescope, he took the view that trying to pick out distant specks of light in light polluted skies wasn't an easy task and that if the youngster was going to get anything out of it other than a few casual uses and consignment to the cupboard, it would involve increasing the budget.

A second hand 6" Newtonian with a good mount cost about £160, I've since added to the eyepiece selection (EP's affect magnification, and as with anything relating to capturing light - good glass is worth it) and added an erecting finderscope to make it easier to find the things we're looking for. That and Turn Left at Orion and a planisphere.
We're still getting regular use out of it, and as the nights draw in I'm hoping we'll get even more. And the interest is still there, it comes up in conversation and in school work.

I know it's unfair to compare £300-400 worth of gear to a £12 telescope, albeit that cost has been spread over a year. But the fundamental point I think is a fair one - that if you want a kid to be impressed by more than just the moon and have it swiftly forgotten, you have to spend a little more. Albeit not necessarily as much as I have.
Oh, side note - there are some very good astronomy forums out there who are incredibly helpful with beginners. And buying second hand means that should you sell it all on in 2 years time, the cost of ownership is likely to be quite low.
finnmaccool25/09/2019 23:49

Things that are far away will look much closer.


..... Hahaha haha ha, tickled me that one
random_dude26/09/2019 11:15

69, 96 all the same


Greetings from Pedant's Corner.
I'm afraid 69 upside down would still read 69, not 96.
If this telescope helps some kids get into astronomy then it's a bonus.

I'm just getting into it myself but I started with some 10x50 binoculars from jessops (they usually go on offer for £10) & they would be better than this telescope but can also be used for other things.

For some cheap astrophotography get an xbox 360 camera from cex for 50p then mod it. It works pretty well for the price.

uk.webuy.com/pro…era


astrobeano.blogspot.com/201…m=1
picked one up today, thought the box was empty !!!

680g all in, this is likely getting used tonight and taken back tomorrow lol
tenohfive26/09/2019 11:48

About as close as you'll get to decent at that price I'd …About as close as you'll get to decent at that price I'd say:https://www.firstlightoptics.com/beginner-telescopes/skywatcher-heritage-76-mini-dobsonian.html


Many thanks
Recently bought something similar from a charity shop but with a few more attachments. Even with my expectations set very low it was a big disappointment. Having said that the one from the OP's post might be OK for the money - I don't know.
Probably closer to the other end of the spectrum, I've started looking at something like this. Anyone has any experience with this unit or something similar?
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