Double UK Mains Power Socket with 2.1a Dual Port USB Charging Plate @ Screwfix £5.99
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Double UK Mains Power Socket with 2.1a Dual Port USB Charging Plate @ Screwfix £5.99

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Found 6th JanEdited by:"spannerzone"
Durable, moulded, double pole switched socket with 2.1amp 2 x USB charging ports. Ideal for charging iPads, iPhones, tablets, mobiles, cameras and more.
Less likely to burn your house down than many similar priced products from our favourite overseas sellers, less likely to destroy your £400 ipad
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I'd personally pay more but for you econo-cheapskates, I mean value hunters, then this wall socket with fabulous USB charge ports might pique your interest. It's much less likely to burn down your house or destroy you £900 iphone than those delightful pieces of junk from our favourite overseas retailers and this will have legitimate British safety standards for those that care, although I know many prefer cheaper prices in lieu of safety.....as saving a few pounds is well worth the risk of fire, electrocution or death
Edited by: "spannerzone" 6th Jan
Wouldn't buy these until they put switches for the USB sockets. Don't like to leave it permanently on
spannerzone9 h, 23 m ago

Surprising how many comments an item like this can cause


*same old stupid comments. Corrected.

Every thread is the same

It starts off with the obligatory "you need deeper back boxes", then that leads to the "recommend qualified electrician" for fitting, with a sub-thread on building regulations.

Then someone posts the golden "wouldn't trust these Made in China sockets/will burn the house down" comment to which someone references an article from 1872.

Then comes the "these are always on/waste electricity" debate, which runs in tandem with the "only 2.1 amps in 2018 is rubbish" argument.

And in between all the experts, are the "will this work with my xxxx?" together with the "won't trust this with my really expensive phone".

But sometimes someone does actually comment on the deal! Although this is often hidden by the "cold - these were half price at a random shop three years ago" comments.

I do pop in though to see if there is anything new.
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Original Poster
I'd personally pay more but for you econo-cheapskates, I mean value hunters, then this wall socket with fabulous USB charge ports might pique your interest. It's much less likely to burn down your house or destroy you £900 iphone than those delightful pieces of junk from our favourite overseas retailers and this will have legitimate British safety standards for those that care, although I know many prefer cheaper prices in lieu of safety.....as saving a few pounds is well worth the risk of fire, electrocution or death
Edited by: "spannerzone" 6th Jan
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pennyfarthing887 m ago

Much better deal here folks …Much better deal here folks https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/bg-double-socket-with-2-x-usb-13a-31a-white-699-wickes-cc-2845454


Not for those desperate to save £1
spannerzone14 m ago

Not for those desperate to save £1


Much slower charging rate on the USB's though.
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J4GG446 m ago

Much slower charging rate on the USB's though.


Yes it's a lower charge current at 2.1a but still not too shabby.
Edited by: "spannerzone" 6th Jan
pennyfarthing8858 m ago

Much better deal here folks …Much better deal here folks https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/bg-double-socket-with-2-x-usb-13a-31a-white-699-wickes-cc-2845454



Just done a c&c for these! Thnaks!
spannerzone1 h, 11 m ago

I'd personally pay more but for you econo-cheapskates, I mean value …I'd personally pay more but for you econo-cheapskates, I mean value hunters, then this wall socket with fabulous USB charge ports might pique your interest. It's much less likely to burn down your house or destroy you £900 iphone than those delightful pieces of junk from our favourite overseas retailers and this will have legitimate British safety standards for those that care, although I know many prefer cheaper prices in lieu of safety.....as saving a few pounds is well worth the risk of fire, electrocution or death


No thanks I'll save the money

It's basically the same thing but it's reduced
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Norseg3 m ago

No thanks I'll save the money It's basically the same thing but it's …No thanks I'll save the money It's basically the same thing but it's reduced


It depends on the build quality really and I've not seen this particular one up close, it may well be perfectly fine and I'm sure it is.
Beware you will need a fairly deep back box to fit sockets with USB due to the extra bit on the plate for the USB.
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R2DEL22 m ago

Beware you will need a fairly deep back box to fit sockets with USB due to …Beware you will need a fairly deep back box to fit sockets with USB due to the extra bit on the plate for the USB.


Good advice, this says it's 28mm deep so might need a deeper back box.

Some of these products are shallower and need only a 25mm deep backbox.
Wouldn't buy these until they put switches for the USB sockets. Don't like to leave it permanently on
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HotUKDealSeeker13 m ago

Wouldn't buy these until they put switches for the USB sockets. Don't …Wouldn't buy these until they put switches for the USB sockets. Don't like to leave it permanently on


I don't think that's likely to happen unfortunately. You think they could have the port switch activated by inserting the USB plug. Hopefully the standby current of these is minimal but of course it would be preferable to be able to turn it completely off. So many gadgets are always connected though and we keep using more and more 'smart' gadgets, wifi repeaters, google/amazon assistants....all drawing a little bit of energy.
Edited by: "spannerzone" 6th Jan
spannerzone5 m ago

I don't think that's likely to happen unfortunately. You think they could …I don't think that's likely to happen unfortunately. You think they could have the port switch activated by inserting the USB plug. Hopefully the standby current of these is minimal but of course it would be preferable to be able to turn it completely off. So many gadgets are always connected though and we keep using more and more 'smart' gadgets, wifi repeaters, google/amazon assistants....all drawing a little bit of energy.


I don't think it's so much the small standby current as the slight wear and tear that will occur on the transformer (or AC-DC converter) by being permanently switched on - at least that was always my concern, for the longevity of the unit anyway. We expect good wall sockets to last maybe 5-10+ years but I'm not sure how long they would last permanently powered up.
They're all a bad idea. The USB transformer is always on (power/heat/safety) and they'll be redundant soon anyway as the world moves on to the next standard. That's assuming they're built properly in the first place and installed by a competent person (who may have to fit a deeper wall box to make it fit and safe).
Would you go on holiday with your phone charger plugged in and turned on? I guess a few would but then some people text while driving!
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Besford5 m ago

They're all a bad idea. The USB transformer is always on …They're all a bad idea. The USB transformer is always on (power/heat/safety) and they'll be redundant soon anyway as the world moves on to the next standard. That's assuming they're built properly in the first place and installed by a competent person (who may have to fit a deeper wall box to make it fit and safe).Would you go on holiday with your phone charger plugged in and turned on? I guess a few would but then some people text while driving!


The better designed ones will shutdown (mostly) but they're always on to some degree. Yes they'll probably be redundant sometime as technology moves on. However so many items are always on, even when turned off, TV, Sky box, modem router, wifi extenders, smart meters .... the list is almost endless and people seem to have no qualms leaving all those items permanently switched on.
Personally I've fitted one of these USB sockets in my house but won't be replacing many more as I don't need it.
After using these for months I realised even the 3.1A ones are poor. In the end I bought a good multi point charger allow 6 inputs 2 are fast charge and is smart charging. Even better for when going on holidays.
I have two wall sockets like these. Good idea and they work ok though always on.

I just purchased one of these for the bedside and much prefer that you can turn the usb on and off. Its well made and I will probably buy another for another bedroom.

amazon.co.uk/gp/…V2F

Damn out of stock, knew I should have purchased another

My sockets have the switches on the outside I prefer the listing here with them in the normal place. Heat added.
Edited by: "jerrysimon" 6th Jan
Besford44 m ago

They're all a bad idea. The USB transformer is always on …They're all a bad idea. The USB transformer is always on (power/heat/safety) and they'll be redundant soon anyway as the world moves on to the next standard. That's assuming they're built properly in the first place and installed by a competent person (who may have to fit a deeper wall box to make it fit and safe).Would you go on holiday with your phone charger plugged in and turned on? I guess a few would but then some people text while driving!


You seem to be an expert on this, so could you advise what will the next standard be?

USB sockets for power of small devices are pretty much standard worldwide now.

Perhaps the 3 pin UK plug socket will change to a new standard soon as well.
(BS 1363 is the British Standard for 3 pin plugs with rectangular pins and this has been in place since 1947, so your logic would suggest that this should be due for a change soon)
spannerzone3 h, 13 m ago

Yes it's a lower charge current at 2.1a but still not too shabby.


It is shabby. It’s awful. Don’t waste your money
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dc24472 m ago

It is shabby. It’s awful. Don’t waste your money


I don't intend to buy one as I don't need one but really 2.1amp charge is not awful or shabby. Most of the world has managed to survive on much lower amp chargers for many years.
Helpful5671 h, 10 m ago

You seem to be an expert on this, so could you advise what will the next …You seem to be an expert on this, so could you advise what will the next standard be?USB sockets for power of small devices are pretty much standard worldwide now.Perhaps the 3 pin UK plug socket will change to a new standard soon as well. (BS 1363 is the British Standard for 3 pin plugs with rectangular pins and this has been in place since 1947, so your logic would suggest that this should be due for a change soon)


Mock if you wish and I make no claim to expertise, but USB C is already out there and you only have to look backwards a few years to see how frequently these things change. The safety concerns are more important though.
Edited by: "Besford" 6th Jan
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It would be interesting to see if any stats are emerging on the safety aspects of these things, certainly those cheap nasty and potentially lethal USB chargers that sell for £1 on ebay have been known to catch alight or electrocute but not seen any reports on wall sockets yet and we all know there have been some very poor Chinese sockets sold (yes I know most are made in China but some are much worse/dangerous than others)
Edited by: "spannerzone" 6th Jan
R2DEL22 h, 40 m ago

Beware you will need a fairly deep back box to fit sockets with USB due to …Beware you will need a fairly deep back box to fit sockets with USB due to the extra bit on the plate for the USB.


You can always fit an extension collar between your new socket / charger outlet and the back box. Just a thought.
spannerzone17 m ago

I don't intend to buy one as I don't need one but really 2.1amp charge is …I don't intend to buy one as I don't need one but really 2.1amp charge is not awful or shabby. Most of the world has managed to survive on much lower amp chargers for many years.


Good luck with that.

I genuinely can’t understand why anyone would buy these in 2018
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dc24472 m ago

Good luck with that. I genuinely can’t understand why anyone would buy t …Good luck with that. I genuinely can’t understand why anyone would buy these in 2018


I can't answer that, I'm puzzled why people buy many things in life too but this site has shown people will buy any old crap produced and go crazy about it.
Edited by: "spannerzone" 6th Jan
spannerzone25 m ago

It would be interesting to see if any stats are emerging on the safety …It would be interesting to see if any stats are emerging on the safety aspects of these things, certainly those cheap nasty and potentially lethal USB chargers that sell for £1 on ebay have been known to catch alight or electrocute but not seen any reports on wall sockets yet and we all know there have been some very poor Chinese sockets sold (yes I know most are made in China but some are much worse/dangerous than others)


Go straight to the Conclusions at the end of the article and then decide whether you want one or not. It appears at the time the article was written there wasn't even a BS standard to comply with!
electricalsafetyfirst.org.uk/med…pdf
Edited by: "Besford" 6th Jan
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Besford6 m ago

Go straight to the Conclusions at the end of the article and then decide …Go straight to the Conclusions at the end of the article and then decide whether you want one or not. It appears at the time the article was written there wasn't even a BS standard to comply with!https://www.electricalsafetyfirst.org.uk/mediafile/100145109/web_usb-article-from-so32.pdf


Since that was written many more now available and the problem is so many unbranded products available and who knows how many hundred new products since that report have been made and sold?

By now they should at least be able to test branded products but the unbranded stuff will be pretty much impossible to keep track of.
Edited by: "spannerzone" 6th Jan
i'd quite like these but are tehy simple enough to fit yourself or do you need someone who is in the know with electrics?! i can change a plug! lol
Firemountain22 m ago

i'd quite like these but are tehy simple enough to fit yourself or do you …i'd quite like these but are tehy simple enough to fit yourself or do you need someone who is in the know with electrics?! i can change a plug! lol



If you have to ask then you really shouldn't do it. (I am not being sarcastic - just safety concious)
Day 6 and the heaith and safety police are on the job. Seriously though I think there are more fires caused by careless use of incense burners, cigarettes, candles, irons, toasters, fat fryers and the like rather than faulty usb so I think we need to keep things in perspective, and if Screwfix are selling these It's not unreasonable to to assume they meet BS and EU standards.
Firemountain36 m ago

i'd quite like these but are tehy simple enough to fit yourself or do you …i'd quite like these but are tehy simple enough to fit yourself or do you need someone who is in the know with electrics?! i can change a plug! lol


The default, safe answer would have to be get an electrician to do it. In reality IF the box is deep enough (many won't have adequate clearance) it should be straightforward but you must ensure you reconnect exactly as the previous one to preserve the integrity of your ring main (many times you'll find multiple cables into and out of the box which can be tricky to work with in a small space). Then test the socket with a simple tester. You can get these things wrong and they still work but safety is compromised.

A couple of my mates are experienced, qualified electricians and they can tell some real horror stories. They recently did some work on a property for me and found faults in wiring done in the 1970s, including at least one disconnected earth which only became apparent when we put in an LED light fitting which continued to glow slightly when turned off! I used to think this stuff was simple and have changed fittings myself but I won't now. If you still insist on one of these things get a proper branded one (MK or similar) - it may cost a bit more but at least you'll know the item itself has been built to reasonable specs rather than lowest price, though it still needs to be fitted properly. Think how warm your external chargers can get - now put them in a very restricted space and imagine what temperature it could get to, unseen.

I once had to call in an electrician when the supply to our house kept going down. Turned out that the builder's electrician hadn't done up the screw tight enough where the main cable entered the distribution board. Over several years it had got hot due to the added resistance and had burned back the insulation on the live cable by about six inches and could easily have caused a fire, just under my son's bedroom floor.

Why not just get a decent brand of USB adaptor with a pass through plug if you're short of sockets? Not quite as neat but at least you can have confidence in it and can turn it off when it's not in use and throw it away when it becomes redundant due to new standards.
dazza999 m ago

Day 6 and the heaith and safety police are on the job. Seriously though I …Day 6 and the heaith and safety police are on the job. Seriously though I think there are more fires caused by careless use of incense burners, cigarettes, candles, irons, toasters, fat fryers and the like rather than faulty usb so I think we need to keep things in perspective, and if Screwfix are selling these It's not unreasonable to to assume they meet BS and EU standards.


You are probably right, though possibly over generous about Screwfix's standards. However, why add yet another risk to the ones you've listed (you forgot the fridges and washing machines which burn down blocks of flats).
Dave_dave6920 m ago

If you have to ask then you really shouldn't do it. (I am not being …If you have to ask then you really shouldn't do it. (I am not being sarcastic - just safety concious)


Fair enough I'll stick to plugs and light bulbs then! lol Just wondered if straight forward enough!
Besford3 h, 16 m ago

Would you go on holiday with your phone charger plugged in and turned on? …Would you go on holiday with your phone charger plugged in and turned on? I guess a few would but then some people text while driving!


Yes. Who bothers unplugging everything before going on holiday? Especially such low draw devices.
What's the standby power draw on a phone charger? I'll be testing that out later.

Do you switch off your fridge/freezer too?

As for people who use their phone while driving, they deserve their own special place in hell.
Edited by: "FireOnAWire" 6th Jan
Besford7 m ago

The default, safe answer would have to be get an electrician to do it. In …The default, safe answer would have to be get an electrician to do it. In reality IF the box is deep enough (many won't have adequate clearance) it should be straightforward but you must ensure you reconnect exactly as the previous one to preserve the integrity of your ring main (many times you'll find multiple cables into and out of the box which can be tricky to work with in a small space). Then test the socket with a simple tester. You can get these things wrong and they still work but safety is compromised. A couple of my mates are experienced, qualified electricians and they can tell some real horror stories. They recently did some work on a property for me and found faults in wiring done in the 1970s, including at least one disconnected earth which only became apparent when we put in an LED light fitting which continued to glow slightly when turned off! I used to think this stuff was simple and have changed fittings myself but I won't now. If you still insist on one of these things get a proper branded one (MK or similar) - it may cost a bit more but at least you'll know the item itself has been built to reasonable specs rather than lowest price, though it still needs to be fitted properly. Think how warm your external chargers can get - now put them in a very restricted space and imagine what temperature it could get to, unseen.I once had to call in an electrician when the supply to our house kept going down. Turned out that the builder's electrician hadn't done up the screw tight enough where the main cable entered the distribution board. Over several years it had got hot due to the added resistance and had burned back the insulation on the live cable by about six inches and could easily have caused a fire, just under my son's bedroom floor. Why not just get a decent brand of USB adaptor with a pass through plug if you're short of sockets? Not quite as neat but at least you can have confidence in it and can turn it off when it's not in use and throw it away when it becomes redundant due to new standards.


Thanks I'll just leave it be... thought if easy would attempt it but I'll steer clear.. I just think they look really good flush into the wall and save me taking adapters from room to room ... alas consider me warned! Thanks for the reply guys!
FireOnAWire2 m ago

Yes. Who bothers unplugging everything before going on holiday? Especially …Yes. Who bothers unplugging everything before going on holiday? Especially such low draw devices.What's the standby power draw on a phone charger? I'll be testing that out later.Do you switch off your fridge/freezer too?As for people who use their phone while driving, they deserve their own special place in hell.


You're well named then. Good luck!
Firemountain3 m ago

Thanks I'll just leave it be... thought if easy would attempt it but I'll …Thanks I'll just leave it be... thought if easy would attempt it but I'll steer clear.. I just think they look really good flush into the wall and save me taking adapters from room to room ... alas consider me warned! Thanks for the reply guys!


Very wise. Just noticed your name too - hope it's not prophetic!
Besford5 m ago

You're well named then. Good luck!




If fire breakout is a concern then surely that can happen anytime whenever nobody is home, not just while you're on holiday.
Although realistically the chances of a device working perfectly fine all the time you've been using it but all the while waiting for the perfect opportunity to spontaneously combust as soon as you leave the country has got to be remote.
FireOnAWire21 m ago

If fire breakout is a concern then surely that can happen anytime … If fire breakout is a concern then surely that can happen anytime whenever nobody is home, not just while you're on holiday. Although realistically the chances of a device working perfectly fine all the time you've been using it but all the while waiting for the perfect opportunity to spontaneously combust as soon as you leave the country has got to be remote.


Remote (I say unlikely) - but far from impossible. Life is full of risks; they can't all be eliminated but it's sensible to minimise them. No, I don't turn off the freezer when I'm away but I do unplug whatever I can when I'm out. When I climb on the plane I rely on the pilot, engineers, etc. to minimise the risks on my behalf and they've been increasingly successful over the years (zero deaths worldwide for the first time last year on commercial passenger jet planes) but I do know planes can still crash!
Remember that brand new Boeing that caught fire at Heathrow a couple of years ago? Electrical cause (battery fault). Lucky it was still on mother earth at the time.
I always wear my seatbelt in the car and a crash helmet on my bike - never needed them so far but I'm not going to stop now.
So, back on subject, why would you incorporate some very cheap piece of (probably) Chinese tat into the mains electrical circuit of your house, risking the most expensive thing you own and the lives of those who live there? Sounds a bit melodramatic like that but nonetheless true.
Edited by: "Besford" 6th Jan
these are of a really rubbish quality. those rocker switches wont last long at all. screwfix do the lap brand which are on offer at 2 for £12 and they're much better than this junk.
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