Double Wall Socket With USB Black Nickel £11.99 @ Screwfix
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Double Wall Socket With USB Black Nickel £11.99 @ Screwfix

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Found 4th Dec 2016Made hot 4th Dec 2016
This has had £5 knocked off the original price so I thought I'd give it a try.
I replaced a standard wall socket within 5 minutes.

The great thing about this is I can now power my chromecast audio with one USB socket, keep my phone charged with the other USB socket, power the stereo with the mains socket and still have a mains socket to spare.

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Hope you earthed the faceplate

how easy are there to install, do you need to get a qualified electrician and how much would that cost (ish, as not a precise science)

2.1A rated for the USB.
Edited by: "Valiantcat" 4th Dec 2016

jarede

how easy are there to install, do you need to get a qualified electrician … how easy are there to install, do you need to get a qualified electrician and how much would that cost (ish, as not a precise science)



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jarede

how easy are there to install, do you need to get a qualified electrician … how easy are there to install, do you need to get a qualified electrician and how much would that cost (ish, as not a precise science)



You turn the power off unscrew everything and screw everything back in where you found it. Blue to N, Brown to L, yellow and green stripe to Earth it's a weird symbol though. I imagine an electrician would charge £50 to fit.
Edited by: "howdiefellas" 5th Dec 2016

I don't really see the point for this. anyway I need to use an extension lead so…

If you check a previous HUKD post there are a few sparkies warning against these. For various reasons, including they are dangerous

phoebeolivia

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howdiefellas

You turn the power off unscrew everything and screw everything back in … You turn the power off unscrew everything and screw everything back in where you found it. Blue to N, Brown to L, yellow and green stripe to Earth it's a weird symbol though. I imagine an electrician would charge £50 to fit.



Just to add if your wiring is old then the Red wire is L (live) and the Black wire is N (neutral)

phoebeolivia

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MAdam98

If you check a previous HUKD post there are a few sparkies warning … If you check a previous HUKD post there are a few sparkies warning against these. For various reasons, including they are dangerous


Thousands of sparkies would disagree...

MAdam98

If you check a previous HUKD post there are a few sparkies warning … If you check a previous HUKD post there are a few sparkies warning against these. For various reasons, including they are dangerous


Not so much they are outright dangerous, just that it's akin to leaving a charger plugged in constantly and always-on. I would imagine and hope that Screwfix would sell a BS certified safe product that is not comparable to a cheap chinese charger that might blow up. Here's a wee article written a few years ago:
electricalsafetyfirst.org.uk/med…pdf
The LAP ones that screwfix sell look to be much higher quality (yet still cheap) than the ones noted in this article.

savsac29

​Where


It was the 2 pack of white ones at the weekend IIRC.
These look nicer though

I bought quite a few from screw fix when they were on offer 2 for £25. ( A permanent offer) hubby fixed them. Seem fine, look fine and work fine.

MAdam98

If you check a previous HUKD post there are a few sparkies warning … If you check a previous HUKD post there are a few sparkies warning against these. For various reasons, including they are dangerous



Im willing to put money on them being safer than cheap chinese plug-in chargers off ebay. Besides, until i start hearing about house fires that have occurred as a result of these being installed, ill put my trust in them being safe

Valiantcat

2.1A rated for the USB.


Shared, so 1.2A each - very slow.

sparklehedgehog

Hope you earthed the faceplate



​the faceplate is earthed to the wall box via the two screws and the wall box should have been earthed. anyone changing the face plate should not need to earth it.

118luke

Im willing to put money on them being safer than cheap chinese plug-in … Im willing to put money on them being safer than cheap chinese plug-in chargers off ebay. Besides, until i start hearing about house fires that have occurred as a result of these being installed, ill put my trust in them being safe



I dread to think how many houses now have broken ring finals after 'have a go' diy enthusiasts try to cram a USB socket into a insufficiently sized back box!!
A broken ring final is a 100% fire risk!!!
Unless you fully understand what I've just said you really shouldn't be installing sockets unless they are on a radial !!

wong_go_wild

​the faceplate is earthed to the wall box via the two screws and the wall … ​the faceplate is earthed to the wall box via the two screws and the wall box should have been earthed. anyone changing the face plate should not need to earth it.



This is why amateurs shouldn't mess with electrics, the screw connections are not a sufficient method for bonding metal fixtures imho, you should be running a cpc/earth loop from the back-box earth terminal into the sockets earth terminal. And terminations should be doubled over for good measure
Edited by: "Leftfield_2k2" 5th Dec 2016

G0OSE

Shared, so 1.2A each - very slow.



​fast charge shortens the battery life massively. slow charge is much better if you want longer battery. plus what does it matter if your phone is plugged in over night or just topped up over the course of a film.

G0OSE

Shared, so 1.2A each - very slow.


Is that 1.2A each or 1.05A each? Either way I would be going for the new 3.1A rated sockets also available.

Leftfield_2k2

I dread to think how many houses now have broken ring finals after 'have … I dread to think how many houses now have broken ring finals after 'have a go' diy enthusiasts try to cram a USB socket into a insufficiently sized back box!!A broken ring final is a 100% fire risk!!!Unless you fully understand what I've just said you really shouldn't be installing sockets unless they are on a radial !!



Now then, re-read what you just wrote and work out what the problem is.


Answer: "insufficiently sized back box" is the problem there. Not the actual socket faceplate itself.

Yes i agree about the broken ring main that does constitute a fire risk, but that would go into the category as poor installation/incompetency. So anyone reading these comments should really make sure the backbox is deep enough before installing the sockets. And you also need to test the ring for continuity (obliviously disconnected from the mains). if in doubt, consult a local electrician.

As for the shared current, it should/would only share if you have both USB sockets drawing current simultaneously.
If you only have one device connected it should allow that device to draw up to the transformers max of 2.1A

118luke

[quote=Leftfield_2k2][quote=118luke][quote=MAdam98]Now then, re-read what … [quote=Leftfield_2k2][quote=118luke][quote=MAdam98]Now then, re-read what you just wrote and work out what the problem is.Answer: "insufficiently sized back box" is the problem there. Not the actual socket faceplate itself.



I never said these USB sockets weren't safe, provided you buy from a reputable uk dealer (screwfix, toolstation, wicks, b&q ..etc) then all of these sockets would have had too have passed multiple British safety standards. Just don't go buying them on ebay as they could then come direct from china bypassing this safety net.
The real and serious problem comes from people who don't fully understand the dangers of a broken ring final, I bet the vast majority don't bother to run a continuity test afterwards at the CCU even if they knew how too!!!

Good find question though do these need a spacer or do they need a bigger rear plate to sit flush

Do these sites flush or need a spacer or bigger back box

I did all the lights rewiring in the bathroom in my then flat back in 1996 - I was just hoping I got it right and used a diagram I found somewhere. All seemed to go OK but I was under the impression the regs changed so that bodgers aren't allowed to have a DIY go any more?

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obsydian

Do these sites flush or need a spacer or bigger back box



​Hi. These come with a black plastic spacer which I chose not to use as I wanted the plate which is very low profile, flat up against the wall.

willpower

​Hi. These come with a black plastic spacer which I chose not to use as I … ​Hi. These come with a black plastic spacer which I chose not to use as I wanted the plate which is very low profile, flat up against the wall.


That little plastic is so they don't get manky after a few weeks by reacting to the plaster on the wall.
I'd put it on if I were you.

Edited by: "jh787" 12th Dec 2016

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jh787

That little plastic is so they don't get manky after a few weeks by … That little plastic is so they don't get manky after a few weeks by reacting to the plaster on the wall.I'd put it on if I were you.


Coincidentally, I put it on today, not because I knew about the plaster issue but because I needed more space behind the plate to run a new spur of it.
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