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DR GREEN E Scooter ESA Electric Scooter 350W £179 @ LIDL Instore Newtown
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DR GREEN E SCOOTER ESA ELECTRIC SCOOTER 350W £179@LIDL IN-STORE NEWTOWN. Purchased today on 2/1/20. 4 remaining on pallet, nation wide where available to clear remaining stock from Lidl warehouse...

SPECS:
Model: ESA 5000
350W front wheel motor
7.2Ah Li-ion battery with Sanyo cells
Rear disk brake and electric front brake
Features bell, front light, reflective strips and rear light
8.5” pneumatic tyres
Max. speed: 14mph
Range: up to 22km (depending on temperature, user weight and terrain)
Max. user weight: 100kg
Charging time: up to 5 hours
Weight: 13kg
2- year warranty (battery: 6 months)
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Specs almost identical to m365 although this one has 350w motor for more torque, and tubeless tires....


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This is q xaoimi m365 at a bargain price, just make sure to mod the scooter to make it safe. They do breakdown a fair bit
zeb.mattey02/01/2020 18:57

This is q xaoimi m365 at a bargain price, just make sure to mod the …This is q xaoimi m365 at a bargain price, just make sure to mod the scooter to make it safe. They do breakdown a fair bit


Break down how in what way?
Fiddles02/01/2020 18:59

Break down how in what way?


The folding mechanism on the m365 compromises the design a little, plenty of cases of the scooter stem snapping while driving. I know of people it happened too.

Its worth knowing about at least, just google m365 breakdown/broken
zeb.mattey02/01/2020 19:01

The folding mechanism on the m365 compromises the design a little, plenty …The folding mechanism on the m365 compromises the design a little, plenty of cases of the scooter stem snapping while driving. I know of people it happened too.Its worth knowing about at least, just google m365 breakdown/broken


Xiaomi resolved this issue and recalled effected models. I had to return mine to halfords a few months ago and instead of taking the replacement i just requested a refund, my refund was £360 so glad today when I found this one half the price, there are some differences though compared to the xiaomi, this Lidl one has no Bluetooth so no app to make a few user tweaks, the xiaomi you have to kick start above 2mph before the motor will provide power, this one will provide power from standstill, also the Lidl one has tubeless tyres, the xiaomi only has rear brake lever but does start braking at the front as soon as you release throttle due to regen braking effect, the Lidl one just roles although does have a front brake lever that I guess may provide some regen effect but can not test this till tomorrow as raining heavy here now. Xiaomi has cruise control and don't think the Lidl version has and again can not test till tomorrow. Lidl one has on paper 100w more powerful motor, if true will not make scooter ant faster as both scooters are restricted but should have more hill power.
Edited by: "SOUTHWALES" 2nd Jan
SOUTHWALES02/01/2020 19:08

Xiaomi resolved this issue and recalled effected models. I had to return …Xiaomi resolved this issue and recalled effected models. I had to return mine to halfords a few months ago and instead of taking the replacement i just requested a refund, my refund was £360 so glad today when I found this one half the price, there are some differences though compared to the xiaomi, this Lidl one has no Bluetooth so no app to make a few user tweaks, the xiaomi you have to kick start above 2mph before the motor will provide power, this one will provide power from standstill, also the Lidl one has tubeless tyres, the xiaomi only has rear brake lever but does start braking at the front as soon as you release throttle due to regen braking effect, the Lidl one just roles although does have a front brake lever that I guess may provide some regen effect but can not test this till tomorrow as raining heavy here now.


Its a tough one, id like to get this because its so cheap, but its hard to trust a manufacturer who’s scooters regularly end up like this


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recall or not, if the manufacturing is poor enough for the main stem to break it puts the whole thing into question imo.

I’m sure someone with a talent for engineering can fix it up, I just mention it to make people aware as I was originally interested in an m365 until I found out about signs of poor workmanship.
zeb.mattey02/01/2020 19:01

The folding mechanism on the m365 compromises the design a little, plenty …The folding mechanism on the m365 compromises the design a little, plenty of cases of the scooter stem snapping while driving. I know of people it happened too.Its worth knowing about at least, just google m365 breakdown/broken


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zeb.mattey02/01/2020 19:10

Its a tough one, id like to get this because its so cheap, but its hard to …Its a tough one, id like to get this because its so cheap, but its hard to trust a manufacturer who’s scooters regularly end up like thishttps://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/ElectricScooters/comments/b2vtv6/my_m365_spontaneously_broke_in_the_middle_of_a/recall or not, if the manufacturing is poor enough for the main stem to break it puts the whole thing into question imo.I’m sure someone with a talent for engineering can fix it up, I just mention it to make people aware as I was originally interested in an m365 until I found out about signs of poor workmanship.


The problem is that many people purchased them direct from China rather than a uk supplier such as halfords, and as such could not return them as part of the recall or again where not notified of the recall, the good thing with my halfords version was I got an email plus halfords could have just provided repair but as a good will gesture they replaced effected models, although as said earlier I requested refund, can not complain as had it 5 months and done many miles without issue. This Lidl version looks like it has the locking mechanism from the pro version so should not have an issue, plus Lidl offer 2 year warranty...
Going to have a look in my local tomorrow, but I doubt they will have any..
SOUTHWALES02/01/2020 19:18

The problem is that many people purchased them direct from China rather …The problem is that many people purchased them direct from China rather than a uk supplier such as halfords, and as such could not return them as part of the recall or again where not notified of the recall, the good thing with my halfords version was I got an email plus halfords could have just provided repair but as a good will gesture they replaced effected models, although as said earlier I requested refund, can not complain as had it 5 months and done many miles without issue. This Lidl version looks like it has the locking mechanism from the pro version so should not have an issue, plus Lidl offer 2 year warranty...


Ah good to see the locking mechanism there. Indeed, always buy from a UK dealer if poss.

Im just a little concerned that this issue even happened, for the main stem to snap. Says a lot about the company imo!
Aren't those scooters snapping at the stem because kids are jumping on them thinking their stunt scooters?

I love how the battery only has 6 month warranty, it'll be another £200 for a new battery
Edited by: "backyard" 2nd Jan
zeb.mattey02/01/2020 19:19

Ah good to see the locking mechanism there. Indeed, always buy from a UK …Ah good to see the locking mechanism there. Indeed, always buy from a UK dealer if poss.Im just a little concerned that this issue even happened, for the main stem to snap. Says a lot about the company imo!


To be fair also we don't really know if the ones that did snap where abused, by this I mean taking jumping of kerb, overloading or taken over potholes, a rolls Royce will break if abused and taken off road. The scooter is designed for 100kg but there is a user that puts his mother on with him to drop her off at bingo, will try find link....
Edited by: "SOUTHWALES" 2nd Jan
SOUTHWALES02/01/2020 19:23

To be fair also we don't really know if the ones that did snap where …To be fair also we don't really know if the ones that did snap where abused, by this I mean taking jumping of kerb, overloading or taken over potholes, a rolls Royce will break if abused and taken off road. The scooter is designed for 100kg but there is a user that puts his mother on with him to drop her off at bingo, will try find link....


Ha ha; a photo would get you so many FB hits!
SOUTHWALES02/01/2020 19:08

Xiaomi resolved this issue and recalled effected models. I had to return …Xiaomi resolved this issue and recalled effected models. I had to return mine to halfords a few months ago and instead of taking the replacement i just requested a refund, my refund was £360 so glad today when I found this one half the price, there are some differences though compared to the xiaomi, this Lidl one has no Bluetooth so no app to make a few user tweaks, the xiaomi you have to kick start above 2mph before the motor will provide power, this one will provide power from standstill, also the Lidl one has tubeless tyres, the xiaomi only has rear brake lever but does start braking at the front as soon as you release throttle due to regen braking effect, the Lidl one just roles although does have a front brake lever that I guess may provide some regen effect but can not test this till tomorrow as raining heavy here now. Xiaomi has cruise control and don't think the Lidl version has and again can not test till tomorrow. Lidl one has on paper 100w more powerful motor, if true will not make scooter ant faster as both scooters are restricted but should have more hill power.


I have this Scooter and your right it has no inner tubes but believe me they need them I had to put them in mine as they lose air after going over bumps it knocks the air out check this video

Fiddles02/01/2020 19:49

I have this Scooter and your right it has no inner tubes but believe me …I have this Scooter and your right it has no inner tubes but believe me they need them I had to put them in mine as they lose air after going over bumps it knocks the air out check this video[Video]


You have this risk with any under inflated tubeless tyres, just pump them up to at least 40psi or more and you will not have this problem.
Edited by: "SOUTHWALES" 5th Jan
Is it worth an extra £90-100 for a Xiaomi from the UK

Is this the usual price or is this a one off at only Newtown Lidl
SOUTHWALES02/01/2020 19:23

To be fair also we don't really know if the ones that did snap where …To be fair also we don't really know if the ones that did snap where abused, by this I mean taking jumping of kerb, overloading or taken over potholes, a rolls Royce will break if abused and taken off road. The scooter is designed for 100kg but there is a user that puts his mother on with him to drop her off at bingo, will try find link....


Pretty sure you can't fit two people on this, probably won't even move
SOUTHWALES02/01/2020 17:39

Specs almost identical to m365 although this one has 350w motor for more …Specs almost identical to m365 although this one has 350w motor for more torque, and tubeless tires....[Image]


So why does it cost £100 less...
They look similar too

Definitely would feel better leaving a cheaper version locked outside jobs instead of £270 one
Edited by: "Norseg" 3rd Jan
Been watching some videos on it seems worth it over the Xiaomi considering the savings, though I heard it does have a water leaking problem if you use in the rain but someone commented on one video saying they fixed it by buying some seals, not sure how much
Apparently basically all the M365 parts work with this idk if that's true but looks the same


Is this at all Lidl's tempted to pick one up but don't live near Lidl so I'll have take a bus
Edited by: "Norseg" 3rd Jan
Norseg03/01/2020 05:57

Is it worth an extra £90-100 for a Xiaomi from the UKIs this the usual …Is it worth an extra £90-100 for a Xiaomi from the UKIs this the usual price or is this a one off at only Newtown Lidl


Way overpriced for what it is. Endless trouble.
Fiddles02/01/2020 18:59

Break down how in what way?


It's actually a safety feature, to keep you off the road and out of trouble.
Norseg03/01/2020 05:59

So why does it cost £100 less...

Realistically, you need to add £300 to this for contingencies.
Norseg03/01/2020 05:59

So why does it cost £100 less...They look similar tooDefinitely would feel …So why does it cost £100 less...They look similar tooDefinitely would feel better leaving a cheaper version locked outside jobs instead of £270 one


Apparently Lidl did not make any profit, these scooters where to get people through the door Luke most if there promotions, they hope to make profit on the other goods you Buy why in-store....
Norseg03/01/2020 06:25

Been watching some videos on it seems worth it over the Xiaomi considering …Been watching some videos on it seems worth it over the Xiaomi considering the savings, though I heard it does have a water leaking problem if you use in the rain but someone commented on one video saying they fixed it by buying some seals, not sure how muchApparently basically all the M365 parts work with this idk if that's true but looks the sameIs this at all Lidl's tempted to pick one up but don't live near Lidl so I'll have take a bus


The xiaomi version is no more waterproof that the Lidl version, you should try and avoid using either of them in rain.
Any in stock in Essex?
SOUTHWALES03/01/2020 12:29

The xiaomi version is no more waterproof that the Lidl version, you should …The xiaomi version is no more waterproof that the Lidl version, you should try and avoid using either of them in rain.


It's rains on 152.6 days per year.
Not really viable!
Hi I've brought one last night in Northampton. You have to ask if you can't see any on shop floor as it was in stock room.

Not sure if it's a new delivery or just remaining from previous offer.
I can see these were previously for sale at £279.

It's a big box as well.
Tested mine today and after also owning xiaomi m365 for 5 months also I can say this Lidl one has a few advantages over the Xiaomi. The left brake lever provides electric regen braking force, the more you press the lever the greater the braking force and the more energy recovered, so I find this better than the Xiaomi set up that works by the electric brake cutting in every time you let go of the throttle, you can't change the braking force required for the size of the down hill decent or force needed to quickly come to a stop or ease of to make it to the end of the road for example, you can change the electric braking force on the Xiaomi via the app but once riding yiu are stuck with that set level, another good thing on the Lidl version is that if you want to freely roll down a hill for example you can but on the Xiaomi as soon as you let go of the throttle you get electric brake force that sometimes is enough to bring you to a stop when it would be more efficient to free roll. Another plus is the Lidl version has a mph gauge, and the Lidl version is not speed restricted when free rolling down hill, but the Xiaomi is always speed restricted because if you release the throttle the electric brake kicks straight in, I could get to a nice free rolling speed down hill on the Lidl scooter of 20 plus mph that you can not do on the Xiaomi. I just completed a 10 mile round trip and thanks to the electric brake regen brake I did not have to use the rear disc brake, this meant I got much of regen braking to recover a lot of energy. Another plus on the Lidl version is the slightly bigger motor at 350w it did give more hill climbing power but I would say this decreased the range by about 15%, I could get around 12 miles out of the Xiaomi but the Lidl version was almost flat by the time I got home at 10 miles, but the advantage was on some uphill climbs the Xiaomi would slow right down and I would have to start kicking to keep up pace, the Lidl one did slow down uphill but kept going. On a flat journey there range may be almost identical just that the 350w motor done all the work itself where the Xiaomi on the same journey got help uphill with me kicking also so that could explain the 2 miles less range.


The only slight negative of the Lidl version is that it has no Bluetooth connection so you can't check miles traveled or full battery condition although for half the price I will happily live without the Bluetooth plus you don't actually need it unless you want total mileage etc, I can happily live without Bluetooth. As for build quality it seems exactly the same in every other way....
Gary_Deezer04/01/2020 05:39

Hi I've brought one last night in Northampton. You have to ask if you …Hi I've brought one last night in Northampton. You have to ask if you can't see any on shop floor as it was in stock room.Not sure if it's a new delivery or just remaining from previous offer.I can see these were previously for sale at £279.It's a big box as well.


Which store in Northampton did you find it? Thanks.
dothedealnow03/01/2020 16:10

It's rains on 152.6 days per year.Not really viable!



is the rain on the '.6 day' during the morning, afternoon or night please ?
Reason I ask is that I'd only be using it in the morning so if its forecast at any other time I'd be good to go with this I reckon

I've also got a bike that would come in rather handy for those 152 days its raining too, nice to mix it up a bit
Edited by: "rooney10" 5th Jan
Hi it’s the LIDL TOWCESTER ROAD Northampton next to B & Q .

Ask a member of staff.

Thanks
Seems to me they are all Now on eBay “Brand new in box” shame
zeb.mattey02/01/2020 18:57

This is q xaoimi m365 at a bargain price, just make sure to mod the …This is q xaoimi m365 at a bargain price, just make sure to mod the scooter to make it safe. They do breakdown a fair bit


What donyou mean mod?
halecrater09/01/2020 06:50

What donyou mean mod?


Some like to make them go faster than 15mph, I myself am happy with 15mph as that feels fast enough on one of these scooters.
Just to say I have managed to buy two of these new in box. Not from Lidl sadly as all gone everywhere. Bought one on eBay and one Facebook marketplace £200 and £195. One seller gave me the receipt for £179.99 so I have a guarantee for 2 years which I’m sure will cover one or the other.
Any links to a site explaining how to make them faster etc ?
SOUTHWALES02/01/2020 20:18

You have this risk with any under inflated tubeless tyres, just pump them …You have this risk with any under inflated tubeless tyres, just pump them up to at least 40psi or more and you will not have this problem.


I was doing this at 50 and 60 and still had the issue. Have just fitted an inner tube which is an utter pita but its done and now I need to review the results.

One other thing I noticed, with the tubeless solution has anyone had the same issue as me that they deflated overnight? Ok for a run out but not before they always needed a pump.

IMHO its going to be tubes fitted else new solid tyres which I am told affects ride and range, only a tad but then for someone 90kg + it don't half affect it!

Cheers

Phill
deadphill20/01/2020 09:16

I was doing this at 50 and 60 and still had the issue. Have just fitted an …I was doing this at 50 and 60 and still had the issue. Have just fitted an inner tube which is an utter pita but its done and now I need to review the results.One other thing I noticed, with the tubeless solution has anyone had the same issue as me that they deflated overnight? Ok for a run out but not before they always needed a pump.IMHO its going to be tubes fitted else new solid tyres which I am told affects ride and range, only a tad but then for someone 90kg + it don't half affect it!CheersPhill


I’ve heard you can get a sort of jelly filled tyre. Have you heard of that?
halecrater20/01/2020 19:45

I’ve heard you can get a sort of jelly filled tyre. Have you heard of that?


Yep. I ended up ordering a couple of inner tubes off amazon and have fitted them, albeit a bit of a pain but if you buy the right tools its not as bad as they make out on the videos. But make sure you do buy the tools and buy the right length cable ties as they really do help with the rear wheel.

Once setup I bought the goo, put it in the tyres, inflated and then went off for a bit of a ride. Job done. Also good as I can line my sons segway and the bikes with the same stuff.

Cheers

Phill
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