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Drayton Wiser kit 1 (heating only) £166.19 @ Monster Plumb
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Drayton Wiser kit 1 (heating only) £166.19 @ Monster Plumb

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Posted 22nd Nov 2019

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Boiler hub, room thermostat and 2 radiator stats

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Three_line_whip23/11/2019 07:04

Cheaper at City Plumbing …Cheaper at City Plumbing https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/drayton-wiser-home-heating-and-hot-water-2-channel-smart-thermostat-kit-3337049


Thats without two radiator thermostats, £40 each
Do you need thermostat in each room to get room temp, or the trv can do the job?
dragonballz7823/11/2019 10:36

Do you need thermostat in each room to get room temp, or the trv can do …Do you need thermostat in each room to get room temp, or the trv can do the job?


TRV will do it but you do need at least one room thermostat somewhere in the system

However some people recommend room thermostat in bigger rooms or rooms with more radiators. Room thermostat overrides TRVs in the same room by default.
Edited by: "Alllfff" 23rd Nov 2019
Alllfff23/11/2019 10:39

TRV will do it but you do need at least one room thermostat somewhere in …TRV will do it but you do need at least one room thermostat somewhere in the systemHowever some people recommend room thermostat in bigger rooms or rooms with more radiators. Room thermostat overrides TRVs in the same room by default.


Thanks. Looking to get one for the house very soon, waiting to see which of the brand reduce lowest : drayton, tado or netatmo.
dragonballz7823/11/2019 10:44

Thanks. Looking to get one for the house very soon, waiting to see which …Thanks. Looking to get one for the house very soon, waiting to see which of the brand reduce lowest : drayton, tado or netatmo.


I'm the same, but I'm pretty set on drayton since with tado I would need the extension kit, also drayton works better when the internet is down, also the whole subscription thing, also drayton works with IFTTT. But never really looked into netatmo.
I'm in a similar boat. Need IFTTT support to allow integration with other IOT devices. Can't trust Nest to maintain IFTTT support, and ideally want one thermostat to control it all.

Drayton is ugly and requires a hub though. Tado is a little nicer.

The thermostat I want isn't available in the UK... US only
RudeYute23/11/2019 11:07

I'm in a similar boat. Need IFTTT support to allow integration with other …I'm in a similar boat. Need IFTTT support to allow integration with other IOT devices. Can't trust Nest to maintain IFTTT support, and ideally want one thermostat to control it all.Drayton is ugly and requires a hub though. Tado is a little nicer.The thermostat I want isn't available in the UK... US only


I dont have wired location for thermostat so I need hub either way. I have nest now but it's just not cutting it in two storey 4 bedroom house
Alllfff23/11/2019 11:16

I dont have wired location for thermostat so I need hub either way. I have …I dont have wired location for thermostat so I need hub either way. I have nest now but it's just not cutting it in two storey 4 bedroom house


I always felt nest over promised on what it could deliver. How could a single thermostat in an average family home serve an entire families needs, regardless of how ‘smart’ it is.
57331023/11/2019 17:31

I always felt nest over promised on what it could deliver. How could a …I always felt nest over promised on what it could deliver. How could a single thermostat in an average family home serve an entire families needs, regardless of how ‘smart’ it is.


It was fine in the two bedroom flat we had but now we have moved and it's as you say
Alllfff23/11/2019 10:39

TRV will do it but you do need at least one room thermostat somewhere in …TRV will do it but you do need at least one room thermostat somewhere in the systemHowever some people recommend room thermostat in bigger rooms or rooms with more radiators. Room thermostat overrides TRVs in the same room by default.


This is my question too. I have a single thermostat upstairs in a central location and TRV’s on all radiators. In some rooms the TRV’s simply aren’t capable of heating the entire room. Half the room would be warm, and but the half furthest from the radiator would be cool and the TRV would shut off . I’d like to upgrade these to something a bit more capable, but don’t want to modify any of the current controls. Can I have a single TRV and Thermostat in a given room and have that manage the heating in that room independent from the main controls? Don’t care about scheduling etc. Any suggestions?
57331023/11/2019 17:37

This is my question too. I have a single thermostat upstairs in a central …This is my question too. I have a single thermostat upstairs in a central location and TRV’s on all radiators. In some rooms the TRV’s simply aren’t capable of heating the entire room. Half the room would be warm, and but the half furthest from the radiator would be cool and the TRV would shut off . I’d like to upgrade these to something a bit more capable, but don’t want to modify any of the current controls. Can I have a single TRV and Thermostat in a given room and have that manage the heating in that room independent from the main controls? Don’t care about scheduling etc. Any suggestions?


Sorry, its saturday night so ignore if im talking rubbish, but...

1) if you have a room thermostat in the centre of the room and set it to say 20 and one end gets to 21 and one end to 19 that's still better than the trv deciding "yup now I have 20" and therefore the other end is 18...?

2) what if you lower the heating temperature (flow temp) at boiler level? You will heat longer but the temp in the room will be more balanced and you should also save money because 2 hours at 50C are cheaper than 1 hour at 70C (again, its saturday night so these values are very vague)
Alllfff23/11/2019 23:29

Sorry, its saturday night so ignore if im talking rubbish, but...1) if you …Sorry, its saturday night so ignore if im talking rubbish, but...1) if you have a room thermostat in the centre of the room and set it to say 20 and one end gets to 21 and one end to 19 that's still better than the trv deciding "yup now I have 20" and therefore the other end is 18...?2) what if you lower the heating temperature (flow temp) at boiler level? You will heat longer but the temp in the room will be more balanced and you should also save money because 2 hours at 50C are cheaper than 1 hour at 70C (again, its saturday night so these values are very vague)


Thanks for that - haven’t thought about dropping the flow temp - will check it out. Also, scenario 1 is what I was hoping I could achieve with these. Can they work as a stand-alone pair of one TRV and one room stat completely separate to the central heating controls?

Thanks
57331024/11/2019 00:04

Thanks for that - haven’t thought about dropping the flow temp - will c …Thanks for that - haven’t thought about dropping the flow temp - will check it out. Also, scenario 1 is what I was hoping I could achieve with these. Can they work as a stand-alone pair of one TRV and one room stat completely separate to the central heating controls? Thanks


I'm not sure what you mean by "completely separate to the central heating controls"

What are the central heating controls?
Alllfff24/11/2019 00:16

I'm not sure what you mean by "completely separate to the central heating …I'm not sure what you mean by "completely separate to the central heating controls"What are the central heating controls?


I have heatmiser for UFCH on ground floor and heatmiser stats on the other floors where we have radiators. The stats are in the hallways. Scheduling HW and heating is done by these and I’d rather not mess with that. If I brought in these TRV’s, would they exist independently to the heatmiser a?
57331024/11/2019 00:19

I have heatmiser for UFCH on ground floor and heatmiser stats on the other …I have heatmiser for UFCH on ground floor and heatmiser stats on the other floors where we have radiators. The stats are in the hallways. Scheduling HW and heating is done by these and I’d rather not mess with that. If I brought in these TRV’s, would they exist independently to the heatmiser a?


(Disclaimer, I work in heat pump industry)
To be honest, (this is drunk me speaking-another disclaimer), if you have heatmiser, and UFH, you probably have heating zones done physically by pumps and valves on the water circuit (this is the proper proper way). This means you are better of than 90% of residential UK. Don't mess with it, go with what you have. Do check the flow temp tho, this could be all you need to balance/equalise the temps within the TRV room(s) and possibly save a little £ in general.

If you have what I think you have, you are looking at diy fix of windscreen wipers on a Skoda when you have a BMW with all servicing and repairs already paid.
Edited by: "Alllfff" 24th Nov 2019
Alllfff24/11/2019 00:27

(Disclaimer, I work in heat pump industry)To be honest, (this is drunk me …(Disclaimer, I work in heat pump industry)To be honest, (this is drunk me speaking-another disclaimer), if you have heatmiser, and UFH, you probably have heating zones done physically by pumps and valves on the water circuit (this is the proper proper way). This means you are better of than 90% of residential UK. Don't mess with it, go with what you have. Do check the flow temp tho, this could be all you need to balance/equalise the temps within the TRV room(s) and possibly save a little £ in general.If you have what I think you have, you are looking at diy fix of windscreen wipers on a Skoda when you have a BMW with all servicing and repairs already paid.


Yes I have several zones for different areas, and mostly works really well, but in the colder months there are a couple of rooms that just don’t heat up evenly. Taking the TRV off completely and those rooms get very hot, uncomfortably so, so I thought maybe these smarter TRV’s would give me some better control in those areas without interfering with the other setup.

Thanks for the advise and suggestions though, I will check the flow temp - I think it maybe set to 70 on the boiler. So you’d suggest dropping this down a bit and running the heating for a little longer?

Thanks so much for the advice!
57331024/11/2019 00:50

Yes I have several zones for different areas, and mostly works really …Yes I have several zones for different areas, and mostly works really well, but in the colder months there are a couple of rooms that just don’t heat up evenly. Taking the TRV off completely and those rooms get very hot, uncomfortably so, so I thought maybe these smarter TRV’s would give me some better control in those areas without interfering with the other setup. Thanks for the advise and suggestions though, I will check the flow temp - I think it maybe set to 70 on the boiler. So you’d suggest dropping this down a bit and running the heating for a little longer? Thanks so much for the advice!


If you had a diagram of the system it would make it easier to advise, if you do (or if you can make one), send a pm.

70C is a lot even for gas boilers. Just so you know, modern heat pump systems run in the 35-55C range, yes they do run for 12 hours a day instead of 3 but they are still more economical.

Addition: you could stick a smart TRV on the problematic radiators which wont let it get hotter than required (room stat override still relevant here) but now you would still need to figure out how or if you need to have these able to call for heat demand (turning boiler on), it doesn't sound like it because it sounds those rooms are hotter rather than colder than required. However I'm not sure how would this need to be connected to the hub or the hub to the system, sorry.
Edited by: "Alllfff" 24th Nov 2019
Alllfff24/11/2019 00:58

If you had a diagram of the system it would make it easier to advise, if …If you had a diagram of the system it would make it easier to advise, if you do (or if you can make one), send a pm.70C is a lot even for gas boilers. Just so you know, modern heat pump systems run in the 35-55C range, yes they do run for 12 hours a day instead of 3 but they are still more economical.Addition: you could stick a smart TRV on the problematic radiators which wont let it get hotter than required (room stat override still relevant here) but now you would still need to figure out how or if you need to have these able to call for heat demand (turning boiler on), it doesn't sound like it because it sounds those rooms are hotter rather than colder than required. However I'm not sure how would this need to be connected to the hub or the hub to the system, sorry.


Thanks so much, more help than you realise. I’ll do some more digging into the system, and try lowering the flow temp. If I can pull up a diagram I’ll drop it across, but once again, thanks for all your advice
57331024/11/2019 01:07

Thanks so much, more help than you realise. I’ll do some more digging into …Thanks so much, more help than you realise. I’ll do some more digging into the system, and try lowering the flow temp. If I can pull up a diagram I’ll drop it across, but once again, thanks for all your advice


Glad I could help, good night
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