Drayton Wiser Smart Thermostat (Heating & Hot Water) - works with Alexa and IFTTT £99.90 @ Amazon
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Drayton Wiser Smart Thermostat (Heating & Hot Water) - works with Alexa and IFTTT £99.90 @ Amazon

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Found 20th Mar
Cheapest it's ever been!

This Drayton Wiser box replaces your current 2 channel heating/hot water programmer, and is fully controlled using the app, wireless thermostat, or smart assistant (Alexa or others using IFTTT).

You can add individual radiator controllers to this kit, currently at £39.99 each, but when on offer they're ~£30, making this kit much, much cheaper than Evohome, the only comparable alternative.

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This kit gives you the stat and the hub needed to replace a normal thermostat. This kit is for separate hot water and heating but they also do a version for ££95 for combi boilers.

Wiring it in is generally simple and setup is simple.

On it's own it's ok and gives remote control of heating via an app but what you really need are the TRV's and ideally one for each radiator you have that you want to control. You can buy them all to start with or add them as they go along.

With this setup each room with a stat effectively becomes it's own zone and the stat becomes redundant as it just controls one room. I don't think I've used our stat since setting it up in the first place, we only use the app.

The TRV's make a little noise when operating and you generally hear a few whines and chirps here and there. In general use it's not an issue but in bedrooms they may wake you if you're a light sleeper. They're no worse that other brands of systems I've heard and better than others.

The range on the TRV's is OK, we occasionally have one of them drop off the network but it usually picks itself back up later on. They do sell repeaters if needed.

We've had one faulty valve out of 10 that was replaced immediately upon contacting support.

The system works best when you have certain rooms that are used at some times of the day and not at others. eg. I have a home office and so heat that during work hours but leave the rest of the house on low or off the rest of the day. It's also good for heating bedrooms when you get up and go to bed but it's pointless heating them for the rest of the day if they're not being used.

Check you have a standard TRV valve on your radiators as otherwise you may need adapters. They come with some which fit most applications but in my case I had to obtain others from elsewhere.

The app is reasonable but with some work it could be made better. Drayton is owned by Schneider so it's a big company and will hopefully have support for a long time. Since I've had it they're released a couple of minor updates and IFTTT support.

For the price it's a good system, offering excellent value for money and it has the potential to be one of the best with some tweaking.

I hope the above helps some people.
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How does this compare to tado? They offer Google home support too.
Thanks, still waiting for the stats to drop in price
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TellyLover4 m ago

How does this compare to tado? They offer Google home support too.


For Tado, you'd need the Thermostat kit and the Extension kit, totalling almost £300, to match this. Haven't tried them though, only been comparing specs and prices

I use Google Home. Hoping Drayton will add support later this year
Btw, there is good progress being made by the Smartthings community developers on integration with Smartthings too (as opposed to the manufacturer or smartthings themselves, who are just too damn slow)
Edited by: "eonise" 20th Mar
Got one and love it. Even works if their servers go down
stringsonfire15 m ago

For Tado, you'd need the Thermostat kit and the Extension kit, totalling …For Tado, you'd need the Thermostat kit and the Extension kit, totalling almost £300, to match this. Haven't tried them though, only been comparing specs and pricesI use Google Home. Hoping Drayton will add support later this year


You still need to buy the hub for the drayton, right?
Edited by: "FunkiestMonkey" 20th Mar
eonise19 m ago

Btw, there is good progress being made by the Smartthings community …Btw, there is good progress being made by the Smartthings community developers on integration with Smartthings too (as opposed to the manufacturer or smartthings themselves, who are just too damn slow)


If the devs need help we've got it working in OpenHAB. I knocked the proof of concept together pretty quick

community.openhab.org/t/d…640
Edited by: "_RobP" 20th Mar
FunkiestMonkey4 m ago

You still need to buy the hub for the drayton, right?


No, this includes a hub and thermostat
_RobP9 m ago

No, this includes a hub and thermostat



What if I have multiple heating zones? Do I need the different kit?
stringsonfire32 m ago

For Tado, you'd need the Thermostat kit and the Extension kit, totalling …For Tado, you'd need the Thermostat kit and the Extension kit, totalling almost £300, to match this. Haven't tried them though, only been comparing specs and pricesI use Google Home. Hoping Drayton will add support later this year


Isn't 'Wiser' already on the Home Control list? I don't know what the integration is but it's definitely there.
FunkiestMonkey12 m ago

What if I have multiple heating zones? Do I need the different kit?


There's a multi-zone kit available too, or you can buy TRVs for each radiator at £40 each and do it that way instead
_RobP1 m ago

There's a multi-zone kit available too, or you can buy TRVs for each …There's a multi-zone kit available too, or you can buy TRVs for each radiator at £40 each and do it that way instead


I already have 3 wireless 'stats that need replacing as they are dumb. The deal is not on the multi zone kit alas.
FunkiestMonkey7 m ago

I already have 3 wireless 'stats that need replacing as they are dumb. The …I already have 3 wireless 'stats that need replacing as they are dumb. The deal is not on the multi zone kit alas.


If it's stats you're replacing and they're not on separate channels from the boiler then you can use this with the TRVs @ £40 each
This kit gives you the stat and the hub needed to replace a normal thermostat. This kit is for separate hot water and heating but they also do a version for ££95 for combi boilers.

Wiring it in is generally simple and setup is simple.

On it's own it's ok and gives remote control of heating via an app but what you really need are the TRV's and ideally one for each radiator you have that you want to control. You can buy them all to start with or add them as they go along.

With this setup each room with a stat effectively becomes it's own zone and the stat becomes redundant as it just controls one room. I don't think I've used our stat since setting it up in the first place, we only use the app.

The TRV's make a little noise when operating and you generally hear a few whines and chirps here and there. In general use it's not an issue but in bedrooms they may wake you if you're a light sleeper. They're no worse that other brands of systems I've heard and better than others.

The range on the TRV's is OK, we occasionally have one of them drop off the network but it usually picks itself back up later on. They do sell repeaters if needed.

We've had one faulty valve out of 10 that was replaced immediately upon contacting support.

The system works best when you have certain rooms that are used at some times of the day and not at others. eg. I have a home office and so heat that during work hours but leave the rest of the house on low or off the rest of the day. It's also good for heating bedrooms when you get up and go to bed but it's pointless heating them for the rest of the day if they're not being used.

Check you have a standard TRV valve on your radiators as otherwise you may need adapters. They come with some which fit most applications but in my case I had to obtain others from elsewhere.

The app is reasonable but with some work it could be made better. Drayton is owned by Schneider so it's a big company and will hopefully have support for a long time. Since I've had it they're released a couple of minor updates and IFTTT support.

For the price it's a good system, offering excellent value for money and it has the potential to be one of the best with some tweaking.

I hope the above helps some people.
I currently have the Tado thermostat (didn't require the extension kit). Does anyone know if the faceplate for the Drayton (combi version) is the same size?
Edited by: "Masterace" 20th Mar
Masterace52 m ago

I currently have the Tado thermostat (didn't require the extension kit). …I currently have the Tado thermostat (didn't require the extension kit). Does anyone know if the faceplate for the Drayton (combi version) is the same size?



If you mean the thermostat itself then the Drayton has a stand for flat surfaces and a small mounting plate for the wall that takes two screws.

As for the hub that connects to the boiler I think it uses a standard plate but I'm not sure if that is the same as the Tado.

The wall plate used can seen on wiser.draytoncontrols.co.uk/ins…ion about halfway down the page. When you mount the hub on the wall plate it's about twice the width of the wall plate and sticks out to the right.
Just waiting to see if a deal price for the Thermostat 3 kit pops up, on Amazon. Had a look at one on Warehouse Deals, but wasn't eligible for 20% off, unfortunately.
So do the TRVs have their own set temperature thermostat control, or is it just a lazy way of choosing to turn up/turn down?

eg I could set living room to maintain eg 22deg, and bedrooms in daytime at say 18 or whatever? And other radiators that don't yet have a fancy TRV on them just adjust as normal in meantime?

edit : So guess what I'm asking, is can you set specific temperatures for every room that has the TRV in, without needing the main thermostat to be in that room?
Edited by: "Midnight.Tboy" 20th Mar
FunkiestMonkey4 h, 14 m ago

What if I have multiple heating zones? Do I need the different kit?


How are they controlled now?

This has one relay in

Switches boiler on/off
Edited by: "Krizzo3" 20th Mar
Midnight.Tboy9 m ago

So do the TRVs have their own set temperature thermostat control, or is it …So do the TRVs have their own set temperature thermostat control, or is it just a lazy way of choosing to turn up/turn down?eg I could set living room to maintain eg 22deg, and bedrooms in daytime at say 18 or whatever? And other radiators that don't yet have a fancy TRV on them just adjust as normal in meantime?edit : So guess what I'm asking, is can you set specific temperatures for every room that has the TRV in, without needing the main thermostat to be in that room?


Fancy trv?

Like honeywell?

Or just manual?

Set this in the hottest room and leave radiator on all they way

Turn down trv’s in other rooms to desired level
Midnight.Tboy51 m ago

So do the TRVs have their own set temperature thermostat control, or is it …So do the TRVs have their own set temperature thermostat control, or is it just a lazy way of choosing to turn up/turn down?eg I could set living room to maintain eg 22deg, and bedrooms in daytime at say 18 or whatever? And other radiators that don't yet have a fancy TRV on them just adjust as normal in meantime?edit : So guess what I'm asking, is can you set specific temperatures for every room that has the TRV in, without needing the main thermostat to be in that room?



Yes, each room with a TRV can be set an individual temperature using the app.

If a room has more than one radiator then you can assign multiple TRV's to that room.

The stat is quite a dumb unit unlike the Evohome, it allows for one temperature to be set up or down.

It can be assigned to a room in which case it can control just the temperature of that room or you can assign it to the rest of the house in which case it'll not control a specific radiator but will turn the heating on which will heat any rooms with normal stats.

Any time one of these TRVs calls for heat then it'll fire up the boiler and heat the radiator in question and it will also heat any rooms with manual stats which are open too.

It works best if all rooms have a TRV.

You could technically fit a stat in each room to control the radiator but this is pointless when you can control all of them from the app. In my case the stat is unused and if they sold a version without one then I would have bought that.

A couple of other points this system continues to work and can still be controlled if you lose internet connection unlike some other systems.

Also you can twist the top of each stat to turn the temperature in the room up or down by 2C.
FunkiestMonkey5 h, 20 m ago

You still need to buy the hub for the drayton, right?


If it does indeed include the hub as well then seems a great price, I am having a lot of issues with the Netamo so thinking of getting this, I am hoping it will work well with my oil based system.Can anyone confirm it comes with the back plate?
Just read the reviews, it suffers the same issue as the Netamo with poor wifi signal.(basic 2.4GHz).Shame.
Edited by: "Bully" 20th Mar
Bully42 m ago

If it does indeed include the hub as well then seems a great price, I am …If it does indeed include the hub as well then seems a great price, I am having a lot of issues with the Netamo so thinking of getting this, I am hoping it will work well with my oil based system.Can anyone confirm it comes with the back plate?Just read the reviews, it suffers the same issue as the Netamo with poor wifi signal.(basic 2.4GHz).Shame.



I'm pretty sure the kit linked to is the hub and the stat but it doesn't include any TRVs.

It does include the backplate.

I think when you setup the system for the first time it asks if you have gas or oil.

It does use 2.4ghz which does limit range compared to the lower 868Mhz used by Evohome and some others which generally penetrates better.

In practice it's caused me little problems, we live in an old house with solid brick internal walls however I imagine it may be an issue for some. They can supply boosters if needed.
I believe that at least one stat is needed per zone (i.e. upstairs/downstairs) as this is what the trvs connect to, not the hub at the boiler end. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Ollie2226 h, 51 m ago

This kit gives you the stat and the hub needed to replace a normal …This kit gives you the stat and the hub needed to replace a normal thermostat. This kit is for separate hot water and heating but they also do a version for ££95 for combi boilers.Wiring it in is generally simple and setup is simple. On it's own it's ok and gives remote control of heating via an app but what you really need are the TRV's and ideally one for each radiator you have that you want to control. You can buy them all to start with or add them as they go along.With this setup each room with a stat effectively becomes it's own zone and the stat becomes redundant as it just controls one room. I don't think I've used our stat since setting it up in the first place, we only use the app.The TRV's make a little noise when operating and you generally hear a few whines and chirps here and there. In general use it's not an issue but in bedrooms they may wake you if you're a light sleeper. They're no worse that other brands of systems I've heard and better than others.The range on the TRV's is OK, we occasionally have one of them drop off the network but it usually picks itself back up later on. They do sell repeaters if needed.We've had one faulty valve out of 10 that was replaced immediately upon contacting support.The system works best when you have certain rooms that are used at some times of the day and not at others. eg. I have a home office and so heat that during work hours but leave the rest of the house on low or off the rest of the day. It's also good for heating bedrooms when you get up and go to bed but it's pointless heating them for the rest of the day if they're not being used.Check you have a standard TRV valve on your radiators as otherwise you may need adapters. They come with some which fit most applications but in my case I had to obtain others from elsewhere.The app is reasonable but with some work it could be made better. Drayton is owned by Schneider so it's a big company and will hopefully have support for a long time. Since I've had it they're released a couple of minor updates and IFTTT support.For the price it's a good system, offering excellent value for money and it has the potential to be one of the best with some tweaking.I hope the above helps some people.


Have exactly this capability using lightwaverf wired in series with tado for heating and hot water (have extension kit and another tado for underfloor as well, so makes sense).

The lightwaverf series 1 does call for heat and the valves seem stable these days, on offer at 40 for two at the mo. Admittedly I already had their stuff for lighting and not worth upgrading to anything else.
Midnight.Tboy3 h, 51 m ago

So do the TRVs have their own set temperature thermostat control, or is it …So do the TRVs have their own set temperature thermostat control, or is it just a lazy way of choosing to turn up/turn down?eg I could set living room to maintain eg 22deg, and bedrooms in daytime at say 18 or whatever? And other radiators that don't yet have a fancy TRV on them just adjust as normal in meantime?edit : So guess what I'm asking, is can you set specific temperatures for every room that has the TRV in, without needing the main thermostat to be in that room?


Yes
Ollie2227 h, 59 m ago

This kit gives you the stat and the hub needed to replace a normal …This kit gives you the stat and the hub needed to replace a normal thermostat. This kit is for separate hot water and heating but they also do a version for ££95 for combi boilers.Wiring it in is generally simple and setup is simple. On it's own it's ok and gives remote control of heating via an app but what you really need are the TRV's and ideally one for each radiator you have that you want to control. You can buy them all to start with or add them as they go along.With this setup each room with a stat effectively becomes it's own zone and the stat becomes redundant as it just controls one room. I don't think I've used our stat since setting it up in the first place, we only use the app.The TRV's make a little noise when operating and you generally hear a few whines and chirps here and there. In general use it's not an issue but in bedrooms they may wake you if you're a light sleeper. They're no worse that other brands of systems I've heard and better than others.The range on the TRV's is OK, we occasionally have one of them drop off the network but it usually picks itself back up later on. They do sell repeaters if needed.We've had one faulty valve out of 10 that was replaced immediately upon contacting support.The system works best when you have certain rooms that are used at some times of the day and not at others. eg. I have a home office and so heat that during work hours but leave the rest of the house on low or off the rest of the day. It's also good for heating bedrooms when you get up and go to bed but it's pointless heating them for the rest of the day if they're not being used.Check you have a standard TRV valve on your radiators as otherwise you may need adapters. They come with some which fit most applications but in my case I had to obtain others from elsewhere.The app is reasonable but with some work it could be made better. Drayton is owned by Schneider so it's a big company and will hopefully have support for a long time. Since I've had it they're released a couple of minor updates and IFTTT support.For the price it's a good system, offering excellent value for money and it has the potential to be one of the best with some tweaking.I hope the above helps some people.


Pity there is not a HUKD award for excellent comment because this comment deserves it.
Sorry to sound like a dumbass, but does this replace the control box that is normally found downstairs, that does the programming of the hot water / heating? As opposed to the thermostat that sits next to my hot water tank and regulates the hot water temp? So this thermostat sits in the controller 'downstairs'? And I also assume that it doesn't interfere with my Philips Hue home hub in any way? And you don't need TRVs at start-up (I already have thermo-controlled ones)? If so - it sounds great value. Thanks.
Edited by: "inthevale1" 20th Mar
Great info

Do you have a link for the said £95 Combi version? Cheers.
6moe6618 m ago

Great info Do you have a link for the said £95 Combi version? Cheers.



It's an option on the same page as this deal links too.
eonise5 h, 36 m ago

I believe that at least one stat is needed per zone (i.e. …I believe that at least one stat is needed per zone (i.e. upstairs/downstairs) as this is what the trvs connect to, not the hub at the boiler end. Please correct me if I'm wrong.


The TRVs connect directly to the hub as does the stat(s). With the app there is no need to ever use the stat if you don't want to.

If you have traditional heating zones already setup in your house where for instance you have a separate heating circuit for upstairs and downstairs then the Drayton Wiser can control up to two zones and hot water using the different versions they supply.

If you didn't want any individual TRV's then you could just use a stat for each zone, either whole house or upstairs/downstairs.

The main benefit of this type of system is to make each room or group of rooms a zone using the TRV valves and then each zone/room can have it's own schedule.
jamgin3 h, 35 m ago

Pity there is not a HUKD award for excellent comment because this comment …Pity there is not a HUKD award for excellent comment because this comment deserves it.



Glad it's helped people, I struggled to find all of the info I wanted when I was looking at it.
inthevale12 h, 32 m ago

Sorry to sound like a dumbass, but does this replace the control box that …Sorry to sound like a dumbass, but does this replace the control box that is normally found downstairs, that does the programming of the hot water / heating? As opposed to the thermostat that sits next to my hot water tank and regulates the hot water temp? So this thermostat sits in the controller 'downstairs'? And I also assume that it doesn't interfere with my Philips Hue home hub in any way? And you don't need TRVs at start-up (I already have thermo-controlled ones)? If so - it sounds great value. Thanks.



I have the combi version and you wire the hub directly into the boiler so that it can turn the boiler on an off when one of the TRV's or stats calls for heat.

The hot water cylinder heating systems can also be wired to turn the hot water by schedule.

The stat is wireless and controls the heating temperature of one zone which could be the whole house, a room or a group of rooms (basically a zone).

The user guide is available here wiser.draytoncontrols.co.uk/sit…pdf and provides a lot of info.
Pain the 'Arris trying to install this. Wish it came with batteries like the Tado. Think I'll stick with the latter.
I have just bought one drayton thermostat for combi boiler. The nest step is to get few individual radiator controllers and you mentioned in deal description that you can find them on offer for approx. £30. Could you advise where did you spotted such an offer? Amazon, screwfix, UK deals, somewhere else?
Masterace4 h, 52 m ago

Pain the 'Arris trying to install this. Wish it came with batteries like …Pain the 'Arris trying to install this. Wish it came with batteries like the Tado. Think I'll stick with the latter.


£60 more for the Tado though, rather buy a few packs of AA batteries
Bully1 h, 13 m ago

£60 more for the Tado though, rather buy a few packs of AA batteries


The Tado was so easy to install though. I can't get this one to work at all and haven't received any replies from their customer service team.
Any deals for the TRV's? Or forums/sites for new developments?
Masterace1 h, 31 m ago

The Tado was so easy to install though. I can't get this one to work at …The Tado was so easy to install though. I can't get this one to work at all and haven't received any replies from their customer service team.


Have to agree..i emailed them twice recently, (Drayton) no reply then they had the cheek to send me a customer satisfaction survey tonight! You can guess how that went. My netamo is playing up big time, zero support from them so have to ditch it after 14 months so definitely looking for a company with proven support. Even thought of going back to the old style non smart system but that might be too much of a backward step.
Masterace9 h, 15 m ago

Pain the 'Arris trying to install this. Wish it came with batteries like …Pain the 'Arris trying to install this. Wish it came with batteries like the Tado. Think I'll stick with the latter.



Unless it's changed the TRV and stats do come with batteries. The hub obviously needs to wired directly to the boiler.
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