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Drayton Wiser Smart Heating Radiator Thermostat Works with Amazon Alexa, Google Home, IFTTT £34 Amazon
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Posted 8th Nov

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These TRVs are usually £39 so a £5 savings can be quite helpful if you need to add one to your existing system or even buy in bulk. Wiser is probably not the best smart heating system on the market but "wisely" priced if you ask me. Works for me anyway. Happy shopping!
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  • This radiator thermostat is only designed to work alongside an existing Wiser Smart Heating System with a Wiser Heat Hub. Replace your existing radiator TRV valves to give room-by-room heating control.
  • Simply screw off/on existing TRV radiator valves and replace with Wiser smart thermostats to expand your current system. Works with 90% of existing valves. An adaptor to fit the Danfoss RA valve is included in every box.
  • Add up to 32 smart radiator thermostats in up to 16 different rooms/zones. Begin with 1 radiator thermostat and add more over time. 1 Thermostat required per radiator for maximum comfort and energy saving.
  • Full heating control can be monitored and schedules updated via the Wiser App (IOS and Android).
  • Use voice commands to check the status and make changes to individual rooms or groups of rooms. Fully compatible with Alexa, Google Assistant and IFTTT.
  • Open window detection turns off heating if a window is open. Twist top allows manual override of the schedule via the radiator thermostat.
  • Average connectivity range is 25-40 feet but will depend on location of Heat Hub and thickness of walls. For larger houses or houses with thick walls, we recommend the Wiser Smart Plug to help extend the range. Wiser is not suitable for gravity fed systems.

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Would they work alone or do I need some kind of hub?
spiderman208/11/2019 12:02

Would they work alone or do I need some kind of hub?


It looks like it needs a hub from reading the product description
Torn between getting a few now or waiting until Black Friday.
spiderman208/11/2019 12:02

Would they work alone or do I need some kind of hub?


You need the thermostat (to connect to the boiler).
Are these the same as the hive products from b gas? They’re offering half price on their rewards page if that’s of any use.
pandy08/11/2019 13:12

Are these the same as the hive products from b gas? They’re offering half p …Are these the same as the hive products from b gas? They’re offering half price on their rewards page if that’s of any use.


No.
pandy08/11/2019 13:12

Are these the same as the hive products from b gas? They’re offering half p …Are these the same as the hive products from b gas? They’re offering half price on their rewards page if that’s of any use.


I am not very familiar with the Hive eco heating system but it looks similar to drayton wiser. The Only thing that might be different is the way the TRVs talk to the hub (Drayton Wiser use RF signal - most of other systems use Wi-Fi to talk to the hub... but I might be wrong!).
pandy08/11/2019 13:12

Are these the same as the hive products from b gas? They’re offering half p …Are these the same as the hive products from b gas? They’re offering half price on their rewards page if that’s of any use.


As far as I know Give doesn't offering radiator Thermostats? Drayton wiser does.
My setup:
Each Radiator has own smart thermostat, house is split into two separate areas. Downstairs and upstairs.
Downstairs heated during day time and upstairs during late evening til early morning without needing heating downstairs.
Jabeat08/11/2019 12:33

You need the thermostat (to connect to the boiler).


No you don’t. You need a hub which connects to the boiler. You can then have a thermostat and/or rad thermostats.
Jabeat08/11/2019 13:43

I am not very familiar with the Hive eco heating system but it looks …I am not very familiar with the Hive eco heating system but it looks similar to drayton wiser. The Only thing that might be different is the way the TRVs talk to the hub (Drayton Wiser use RF signal - most of other systems use Wi-Fi to talk to the hub... but I might be wrong!).



Drayton Wiser uses a proprietary implementation of the Zigbee protocol in the 2.4GHz band (so the same frequency band as wifi but not wifi) for the connection between the room stats/radiator valves and the boiler controller hub. This is the main downside of the system because of the potential for interference. (AIUI some other systems use lower frequency rf connections which can penetrate walls more easily, but I don't know much about those) Most people who have had trouble with devices dropping off the system have overcome it using the smart-plug range extenders. The connection to the hub to control it is over wifi to your router, and then over wifi or internet from a phone or tablet, and some people have reported problems with poor range of the wifi connection from the hub, but that can be solved using a wifi extender or mesh node. On our system we did have occasional issues at first with the valves furthest away from the hub dropping off, our house is quite long and has brick internal walls, but since carefully placing a smart-plug extender we've had no further trouble. In fact we've found the system reliable and very easy to use. Hopefully it should save us gas because we can now control each room precisely as an individual zone, how much waits to be seen. One of the key features that attracted me to the system was that so long as you can connect to the local network that the hub is connected to, you can control the system. I believe a lot of the other smart CH systems rely on an internet cloud connection to remote servers to control them. So if your internet goes down, or the company server goes down - which I believe has happened to at least one other system, you could potentially be in a bit of a chilly pickle.
Edited by: "VDisillusioned" 9th Nov
Do the boiler needs to be ON all the time? The hub and thermostat triggers the boiler when to fire up? Is my understanding right?
HuckSawyer09/11/2019 12:35

Do the boiler needs to be ON all the time? The hub and thermostat triggers …Do the boiler needs to be ON all the time? The hub and thermostat triggers the boiler when to fire up? Is my understanding right?


The boiler comes only when a radiator valves/wall thermostat calls for heat.
Jabeat09/11/2019 12:39

The boiler comes only when a radiator valves/wall thermostat calls for …The boiler comes only when a radiator valves/wall thermostat calls for heat.



Enlighten me please. My boiler got 3 switch setting.
1st: off
2nd: on (It will only turn on for the time you set it)
3rd: on all the time

If I’m gonna get this one, which setting should I set my boiler? 1st 2nd 3rd switch setting?

Thanks and regards
HuckSawyer09/11/2019 12:42

Enlighten me please. My boiler got 3 switch setting.1st: off2nd: on (It …Enlighten me please. My boiler got 3 switch setting.1st: off2nd: on (It will only turn on for the time you set it)3rd: on all the time If I’m gonna get this one, which setting should I set my boiler? 1st 2nd 3rd switch setting?Thanks and regards


You need to install the hub to your boiler (electrician is best person to do that). I would suggest you get the starter kit, this deal is more suited for those who want to add to their existing Drayton wiser set up. amazon.co.uk/gp/…c=1
Jabeat09/11/2019 13:12

You need to install the hub to your boiler (electrician is best person to …You need to install the hub to your boiler (electrician is best person to do that). I would suggest you get the starter kit, this deal is more suited for those who want to add to their existing Drayton wiser set up. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B075GSQDZF/ref=sspa_mw_detail_0?ie=UTF8&psc=1



Thank you. Given I got the hub, it’s the switch setting that hinders me from getting this set up.
HuckSawyer09/11/2019 13:24

Thank you. Given I got the hub, it’s the switch setting that hinders me f …Thank you. Given I got the hub, it’s the switch setting that hinders me from getting this set up.


I'm no expert but I can tell you that my boiler is in the "always on" position, the hub then controls the rest... I had to get an qualified electrician involved, and it was not a straight swap from the old hub to the Drayton wiser one! Good luck to you, I hope you get it all up and running.
leemazzotti08/11/2019 12:05

Torn between getting a few now or waiting until Black Friday.


This is the cheapest they have ever been - I'd be surprised if they are cheaper on black Friday.
stephanie.chitty10/11/2019 12:48

This is the cheapest they have ever been - I'd be surprised if they are …This is the cheapest they have ever been - I'd be surprised if they are cheaper on black Friday.


I think Wolsely sold these for about £22 a few months back and I doubt they will be at that price again for a long time.
Edited by: "Imran_Razaq" 11th Nov
pandy08/11/2019 13:12

Are these the same as the hive products from b gas? They’re offering half p …Are these the same as the hive products from b gas? They’re offering half price on their rewards page if that’s of any use.


British Gas Hive uses Drayton Wiser thermostat valves that are modded for their Zigbee system, so although almost the same, they are not compatible.
Do some serious research before buying Hive thermostatic valves and make up your own mind, in my view they are nowhere near ready for market right now.
Nest are missing a trick not having similar TRVs
Imran_Razaq11/11/2019 11:22

I think Wolsely sold these for about £22 a few months back and I doubt …I think Wolsely sold these for about £22 a few months back and I doubt they will be at that price again for a long time.



They were- and £75 for the controller. Under £300 sorted out my whole house (incl 10 rads)

These work really well for me. I started off with 3 zones (downstairs, 1st floor, second floor) but I was finding one bedroom was estimating the temp to be lower than it was and was calling for heat for everywhere upstairs and cooking the place. Since then I've grouped a couple of open plan areas but moved to basically a zone per room. That has enabled much finer control of each room's temp (and given more flexibility in switching certain rooms off at certain times of day). It was a bit of a pain setting up all the timetables (and it would be good if it could be done on a website), but once done it's all good. My two current complaints with the app are (1) that you cannot re-order/sort the zones (even by removing the zone and valve from the system and reinstalling them), so you can't group by floor for example, meaning it is a bit hotch potch looking, and (2) you cannot copy timetables from one zone to another.

But they are very minor concerns. Another is that the rad valves do give a 2 second buzz when they open or close, which in a bedroom at night you do hear- but it's not too intrusive and we've got used to it quite quickly.

This system holds up very well compared to the competition and it's surprising it's not higher profile/more popular. features I like include:

The system (i.e. the controll app and scheduling tool) still works over local WiFi so if the servers go down/are pulled in the future you don't lose all functionality (as you would with some other competitive services). This also insulates you against being bent over a barrel and being forced to subscribe to an online service as some others hacve started to introduce.
It's good value, even at full price. Check out the prices of rad valves on things like the Honeywell Evohome...
It is IFTTT compatible so you can set up geo-fencing (so it can be set to know when you all go out and will over-ride the timings and switch the heating off, then switch it on when you're on the way home).
The app is constantly getting updated with new features still, indicating that the manufacturer is still committed to the product. You get quick feedback and support if you need it.
Works with Google Home (so you can say to your phone "OK google, increase the lounge temperature by 2 degrees" etc).
The app has lots of clever little choices and options (including choosing between the heating coming on at a certain time or the heating working out how long it will take to get you to the desired temp at the set time and switching on in advance to achieve that (takign the external weather into account), or knowing when it's approaching a set point for a temp drop and not boosting the temp 5 mins before it reaches that time even though technically it might be half a degree too cold for the actual current set point).

I will say, go all or nothing on the rad valves- I bought valves for the whole house, but only set up half of them because only half the rads in the house had TRVs. I have since replaced all the rads in the house and got them all up and running. In the meantime though, we ran with upstairs on these valves and downstairs not. All it took was one upstairs valve to call heat and the system fired up and downstairs (which was not controlled) would then heat up too. Was a total waste of time and I think I prefered a single central thermostat and well balanced valves to the half and half setup. Since all rads (apart from one bathroom one to protect the boiler, in the same zone as the one room stat I have) have been set up with individually zoned valves, the control is great. We can freeze downstairs at night and have it hot again by the time we get up, without even noticing. We have 5 different temp settings overnight in the bedroom so it's a really closely controlled temp drop and increase in the morning. We can switch our daughter's room off in the day when she is at school then toast it up again for 15:30 - then chill it a bit earlier than the rest of the place in the evening to help her sleep.

Not sure if you can tell but I'm a big fan

We had an older Drayton heating system too, so it was an absolute piece of cake to DIY install.
Edited by: "Jules_HT" 12th Nov
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Looks angry I don't trust it.
paul999912/11/2019 11:56

Nest are missing a trick not having similar TRVs


I agree. I moved over from Nest (although I still have nest cams and smoke alarms) as they don't do these valves. I guess they will be much more expensive if they do release them.
Jules_HT12/11/2019 11:58

They were- and £75 for the controller. Under £300 sorted out my whole h …They were- and £75 for the controller. Under £300 sorted out my whole house (incl 10 rads) These work really well for me. I started off with 3 zones (downstairs, 1st floor, second floor) but I was finding one bedroom was estimating the temp to be lower than it was and was calling for heat for everywhere upstairs and cooking the place. Since then I've grouped a couple of open plan areas but moved to basically a zone per room. That has enabled much finer control of each room's temp (and given more flexibility in switching certain rooms off at certain times of day). It was a bit of a pain setting up all the timetables (and it would be good if it could be done on a website), but once done it's all good. My two current complaints with the app are (1) that you cannot re-order/sort the zones (even by removing the zone and valve from the system and reinstalling them), so you can't group by floor for example, meaning it is a bit hotch potch looking, and (2) you cannot copy timetables from one zone to another.But they are very minor concerns. Another is that the rad valves do give a 2 second buzz when they open or close, which in a bedroom at night you do hear- but it's not too intrusive and we've got used to it quite quickly. This system holds up very well compared to the competition and it's surprising it's not higher profile/more popular. features I like include:The system (i.e. the controll app and scheduling tool) still works over local WiFi so if the servers go down/are pulled in the future you don't lose all functionality (as you would with some other competitive services). This also insulates you against being bent over a barrel and being forced to subscribe to an online service as some others hacve started to introduce.It's good value, even at full price. Check out the prices of rad valves on things like the Honeywell Evohome...It is IFTTT compatible so you can set up geo-fencing (so it can be set to know when you all go out and will over-ride the timings and switch the heating off, then switch it on when you're on the way home).The app is constantly getting updated with new features still, indicating that the manufacturer is still committed to the product. You get quick feedback and support if you need it.Works with Google Home (so you can say to your phone "OK google, increase the lounge temperature by 2 degrees" etc).The app has lots of clever little choices and options (including choosing between the heating coming on at a certain time or the heating working out how long it will take to get you to the desired temp at the set time and switching on in advance to achieve that (takign the external weather into account), or knowing when it's approaching a set point for a temp drop and not boosting the temp 5 mins before it reaches that time even though technically it might be half a degree too cold for the actual current set point).I will say, go all or nothing on the rad valves- I bought valves for the whole house, but only set up half of them because only half the rads in the house had TRVs. I have since replaced all the rads in the house and got them all up and running. In the meantime though, we ran with upstairs on these valves and downstairs not. All it took was one upstairs valve to call heat and the system fired up and downstairs (which was not controlled) would then heat up too. Was a total waste of time and I think I prefered a single central thermostat and well balanced valves to the half and half setup. Since all rads (apart from one bathroom one to protect the boiler, in the same zone as the one room stat I have) have been set up with individually zoned valves, the control is great. We can freeze downstairs at night and have it hot again by the time we get up, without even noticing. We have 5 different temp settings overnight in the bedroom so it's a really closely controlled temp drop and increase in the morning. We can switch our daughter's room off in the day when she is at school then toast it up again for 15:30 - then chill it a bit earlier than the rest of the place in the evening to help her sleep.Not sure if you can tell but I'm a big fan We had an older Drayton heating system too, so it was an absolute piece of cake to DIY install.


Like you I bought them at that time too for the full house! I have only installed one trv and the portable thermostat. Wil be installing the remainder over the next few days.

Ps good write up.
Jules_HT12/11/2019 11:58

They were- and £75 for the controller. Under £300 sorted out my whole h …They were- and £75 for the controller. Under £300 sorted out my whole house (incl 10 rads) These work really well for me. I started off with 3 zones (downstairs, 1st floor, second floor) but I was finding one bedroom was estimating the temp to be lower than it was and was calling for heat for everywhere upstairs and cooking the place. Since then I've grouped a couple of open plan areas but moved to basically a zone per room. That has enabled much finer control of each room's temp (and given more flexibility in switching certain rooms off at certain times of day). It was a bit of a pain setting up all the timetables (and it would be good if it could be done on a website), but once done it's all good. My two current complaints with the app are (1) that you cannot re-order/sort the zones (even by removing the zone and valve from the system and reinstalling them), so you can't group by floor for example, meaning it is a bit hotch potch looking, and (2) you cannot copy timetables from one zone to another.But they are very minor concerns. Another is that the rad valves do give a 2 second buzz when they open or close, which in a bedroom at night you do hear- but it's not too intrusive and we've got used to it quite quickly. This system holds up very well compared to the competition and it's surprising it's not higher profile/more popular. features I like include:The system (i.e. the controll app and scheduling tool) still works over local WiFi so if the servers go down/are pulled in the future you don't lose all functionality (as you would with some other competitive services). This also insulates you against being bent over a barrel and being forced to subscribe to an online service as some others hacve started to introduce.It's good value, even at full price. Check out the prices of rad valves on things like the Honeywell Evohome...It is IFTTT compatible so you can set up geo-fencing (so it can be set to know when you all go out and will over-ride the timings and switch the heating off, then switch it on when you're on the way home).The app is constantly getting updated with new features still, indicating that the manufacturer is still committed to the product. You get quick feedback and support if you need it.Works with Google Home (so you can say to your phone "OK google, increase the lounge temperature by 2 degrees" etc).The app has lots of clever little choices and options (including choosing between the heating coming on at a certain time or the heating working out how long it will take to get you to the desired temp at the set time and switching on in advance to achieve that (takign the external weather into account), or knowing when it's approaching a set point for a temp drop and not boosting the temp 5 mins before it reaches that time even though technically it might be half a degree too cold for the actual current set point).I will say, go all or nothing on the rad valves- I bought valves for the whole house, but only set up half of them because only half the rads in the house had TRVs. I have since replaced all the rads in the house and got them all up and running. In the meantime though, we ran with upstairs on these valves and downstairs not. All it took was one upstairs valve to call heat and the system fired up and downstairs (which was not controlled) would then heat up too. Was a total waste of time and I think I prefered a single central thermostat and well balanced valves to the half and half setup. Since all rads (apart from one bathroom one to protect the boiler, in the same zone as the one room stat I have) have been set up with individually zoned valves, the control is great. We can freeze downstairs at night and have it hot again by the time we get up, without even noticing. We have 5 different temp settings overnight in the bedroom so it's a really closely controlled temp drop and increase in the morning. We can switch our daughter's room off in the day when she is at school then toast it up again for 15:30 - then chill it a bit earlier than the rest of the place in the evening to help her sleep.Not sure if you can tell but I'm a big fan We had an older Drayton heating system too, so it was an absolute piece of cake to DIY install.


Great write up mate
Thanks for spending all that time to help others on here.
I too bought the system in the summer when it was cheap at Wolesey but still haven’t installed it yet. I had to buy the system to control 2 different heating zones due to my lounge being separate from the rest of the house. Also, I think I’m gonna have to buy some thermostat adapters as some of the rads I have in wet areas are towel style rads, so things might get messy draining off some of the rads which is a pita. I’m sure very worthwhile once all set up though.
Thanks again for your very informative post.
The one thing I will warn about is the poor TRV range coverage. My house isn't big but I still had to buy extra drayton smart plugs to create a wider mesh network. My outdoor garage converted outbuilding is too actually too far, regardless of smart plugs... Shame, nothing to be done. So you might want to factor in the cost before to take the plunge. I would still recommend Drayton, although I haven't tested other smart eco heating systems!
Imran_Razaq11/11/2019 11:22

I think Wolsely sold these for about £22 a few months back and I doubt …I think Wolsely sold these for about £22 a few months back and I doubt they will be at that price again for a long time.


I got mine from there when they were that price ..had been waiting on a deal for ages and when that popped up I took the plunge and got the 6 I needed . Bargain . . They also had the starter kit 1 on offer a few weeks earlier for £79 which I got . So all in all I got my whole system Inc smart trvs in every room for just over £200 😃. Working a treat
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