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Had a quick check seems to be the cheapest available for the duo pack and dont think this is a double post (although similar prices before). Also available at Ao.com for the same price. Dont have the Tado system so cant comment on it but noticed the price drop on Amazon when looking at other TRVs thought it might be of use with prime delivery etc!
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  • Additional product of the tado starter kits: Add additional Smart Radiator Thermostats to your setup to control multiple radiators and zones individually
  • Upgrade to Multi-room Control to maximise your comfort and energy savings. Manage all zones and settings within the tado app
  • Works with all standard radiators with thermostatic radiator valves. Simply replace the old conventional radiator thermostats - no tools needed
  • tado Starter Kit (V2, V3, V3+) including the Internet Bridge forms the basis of your setup
  • Box contains: 2x Smart Radiator Thermostat (vertical mounting), various adapters, 2x 2 AA batteries

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Probably a daft question but....

Ive got Tado thermostat & hot water stuff fitted already. There are 11 rads with traditional TRVs so would / should I replace them all as a cold kitchen might call for heat & heat up the rest of the already warm enough rooms?

How are people using these?
I have much the same setup and put smart trvs on all rads except toilets.
I’m using them without the other Tado stuff in 3 bedrooms to restrict the heat after a certain time so the bedroom doesn’t get too warm to sleep.

This is especially good with the kids room, which has an oversized radiator designed for 50degree flow.
Which is the best room zoned heating system? Currently have nest but i dont think they do something like this? Although i like the nest and its interface
mookydudz14/03/2020 05:42

Probably a daft question but....Ive got Tado thermostat & hot water stuff …Probably a daft question but....Ive got Tado thermostat & hot water stuff fitted already. There are 11 rads with traditional TRVs so would / should I replace them all as a cold kitchen might call for heat & heat up the rest of the already warm enough rooms?How are people using these?


Unless you replace all of them then the ones with traditional TRV can always be on. I always find my bathroom too warm but just turned it down a bit but it's not more accurate than smart TRVs.

It depends on what your goals are, so for me I need to have the living room and bedrooms a set temperature (daughter needs 18.5 and I need 21-22.., but on Smart TRV it's 19 cos they don't do decimal) and couldn't care less about the other rooms, so first you can cover the critical rooms and then the other rooms are optional (money is a factor for me).

It will take sometime to get your money back by using the TRVs, so it's more for comfort than money savings. I only buy when discounted at £30ish or less per TRV.

I also have 10-11 rads, assume you have a 3 bedroom house too.

Also, it's not just about the TRVs, switching energy suppliers also is a must.
mookydudz14/03/2020 05:42

Probably a daft question but....Ive got Tado thermostat & hot water stuff …Probably a daft question but....Ive got Tado thermostat & hot water stuff fitted already. There are 11 rads with traditional TRVs so would / should I replace them all as a cold kitchen might call for heat & heat up the rest of the already warm enough rooms?How are people using these?



You have to think along these lines: as long as you don't have smart TRVs fitted on all radiators, than buying let's say 3 you could use it to RESTRICT heat flow to certain areas as others have mentioned. Once you have them fitted to all radiators than you can do the opposite: ALLOW heat to areas while you RESTRICT it to others.

A scenario: on weekday mornings during breakfast heating is on for the kitchen and the hallway but is totally off in the bedrooms while windows open. During the day everything is kept at 16 degrees so the house doesn't go too cold. Weekday evenings: Living room to 21-22, while bedrooms to 18-19 degrees but not above. On a weekend day: kitchen and living room on but bedrooms are kept at 16-18 during the day.

So to repeat the main point: as long as you can only buy a few use them to restrict heat to least used or worst insulated areas (which loose heat straight away so no point in keeping heating on). Once you have it on most radiators you can do anything.
Edited by: "Chad_" 14th Mar
British gas still has Hive offers on for anyone interested. The discount has dropped to 35% instead of 50, but you can still buy one valve for £35 or 5 for about £130 (26 each).

The 50% off offer seems to be quite common though so may be worth waiting for that where they are as low as £20 each
Giwin14/03/2020 07:53

Unless you replace all of them then the ones with traditional TRV can …Unless you replace all of them then the ones with traditional TRV can always be on. I always find my bathroom too warm but just turned it down a bit but it's not more accurate than smart TRVs.It depends on what your goals are, so for me I need to have the living room and bedrooms a set temperature (daughter needs 18.5 and I need 21-22.., but on Smart TRV it's 19 cos they don't do decimal) and couldn't care less about the other rooms, so first you can cover the critical rooms and then the other rooms are optional (money is a factor for me).It will take sometime to get your money back by using the TRVs, so it's more for comfort than money savings. I only buy when discounted at £30ish or less per TRV.I also have 10-11 rads, assume you have a 3 bedroom house too.Also, it's not just about the TRVs, switching energy suppliers also is a must.


Chad_14/03/2020 07:58

You have to think along these lines: as long as you don't have smart TRVs …You have to think along these lines: as long as you don't have smart TRVs fitted on all radiators, than buying let's say 3 you could use it to RESTRICT heat flow to certain areas as others have mentioned. Once you have them fitted to all radiators than you can do the opposite: ALLOW heat to areas while you RESTRICT it to others. A scenario: on weekday mornings during breakfast heating is on for the kitchen and the hallway but is totally off in the bedrooms while windows open. During the day everything is kept at 16 degrees so the house doesn't go too cold. Weekday evenings: Living room to 21-22, while bedrooms to 18-19 degrees but not above. On a weekend day: kitchen and living room on but bedrooms are kept at 16-18 during the day. So to repeat the main point: as long as you can only buy a few use them to restrict heat to least used or worst insulated areas (which loose heat straight away so no point in keeping heating on). Once you have it on most radiators you can do anything.



Thanks to you both for spelling this out in layman's terms. I have a newish house & its very well insulated so heat loss is not a major concern right now. However I've found the main thermostat is a bit crap (or more likely where I've put it) detecting the temp in the house.

ie Its upstairs now on the landing. It was downstairs but found the upstairs was cool. Now it's the opposite. I've had no joy balancing the rads with traditional TRVs so might get a few of these & give them a try. I like the Tado eco system & have been using it since the gen1 stuff that had 'beta' on the box.
mookydudz14/03/2020 08:51

Thanks to you both for spelling this out in layman's terms. I have a …Thanks to you both for spelling this out in layman's terms. I have a newish house & its very well insulated so heat loss is not a major concern right now. However I've found the main thermostat is a bit crap (or more likely where I've put it) detecting the temp in the house. ie Its upstairs now on the landing. It was downstairs but found the upstairs was cool. Now it's the opposite. I've had no joy balancing the rads with traditional TRVs so might get a few of these & give them a try. I like the Tado eco system & have been using it since the gen1 stuff that had 'beta' on the box.


Btw some ppl don't realise but even if your thermostat is wall mounted you can still pop it off it's wall plate and move it around. It's battery operated as well.
Edited by: "Chad_" 14th Mar
mookydudz14/03/2020 08:51

Thanks to you both for spelling this out in layman's terms. I have a …Thanks to you both for spelling this out in layman's terms. I have a newish house & its very well insulated so heat loss is not a major concern right now. However I've found the main thermostat is a bit crap (or more likely where I've put it) detecting the temp in the house. ie Its upstairs now on the landing. It was downstairs but found the upstairs was cool. Now it's the opposite. I've had no joy balancing the rads with traditional TRVs so might get a few of these & give them a try. I like the Tado eco system & have been using it since the gen1 stuff that had 'beta' on the box.


We have a split system for up and down stairs, and have two nest thermostats one on each floor. What we have found is that if you want the whole floor heated to a similar level you need the nests really to be in the coolest room then go round the rest of the rooms and turn them down on the TRVs to the correct temperature. It takes a little while but you eventually get there. When we tried to have the nest in a room (not the coolest) that required the TRV to be partly closed so the coolest room got more heat, it was almost impossible to balance maybe the TRVs we not accurate enough. If you dont have TRVs the nests then needs to be in the room your most in! I'm interested to see about the tado TRVs thou. Our nest thermostats have saved us 2000lts of oil a year so have more than paid themselves back I wonder if these could be the next step?
Can you use these smart radiator thermostats without having the rest of the system smart?
The only problem with these are they cost so much that the payback period will be silly for most houses. However if you’re building a new house or fitting a new system in they make much more monetary sense.
Heat for OP and if it were possible for the useful discussion peeps, it's stuff like this that makes HUKD for me!
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Do these work with a proprietary wireless format, or can they connect to zwave?
Chad_14/03/2020 09:09

Btw some ppl don't realise but even if your thermostat is wall mounted you …Btw some ppl don't realise but even if your thermostat is wall mounted you can still pop it off it's wall plate and move it around. It's battery operated as well.


Not always true, some tado installs have the thermostat hardwired.
Yes and you can still pop off the thermostat bit of mine off the hardwired frame
Edited by: "Chad_" 14th Mar
SomebodE14/03/2020 07:45

I’m using them without the other Tado ...


Hi. Are controlling these without the Tado internet bridge? I'd like to be able to profile the heat in a couple of bedrooms without fiddling with the TRVs every day. I've already got a profiled thermostat controlling the main area in the house, I don't want to change this to a full smart system.
Edited by: "ParsleyLion" 14th Mar
ParsleyLion14/03/2020 15:03

Hi. Are controlling these without the Tado internet bridge? I'd like to be …Hi. Are controlling these without the Tado internet bridge? I'd like to be able to profile the heat in a couple of bedrooms without fiddling with the TRVs every day. I've already got a profiled thermostat controlling the main area in the house, I don't want to change this to a full smart system.


I’m using the tado internet bridge, as this is how it works with the app.

I’m still using the Vailant controls for the rest of the house
SomebodE14/03/2020 15:05

I’m using the tado internet bridge, as this is how it works with the app. I …I’m using the tado internet bridge, as this is how it works with the app. I’m still using the Vailant controls for the rest of the house


Ta, so I'd need a bridge as well. Trying to do just what you're doing, leaving other system to control main area. Thanks.
ParsleyLion14/03/2020 15:18

Ta, so I'd need a bridge as well. Trying to do just what you're doing, …Ta, so I'd need a bridge as well. Trying to do just what you're doing, leaving other system to control main area. Thanks.


There’s usually a kit with 2x TRVs that comes on offer for circa £80.

Check AO.com and their eBay account
deleted186797614/03/2020 14:24

Do these work with a proprietary wireless format, or can they connect to …Do these work with a proprietary wireless format, or can they connect to zwave?



you need the tado bridge
Thanks for posting; we have added this thread to the Highlights section
Chad_14/03/2020 14:57

Yes and you can still pop off the thermostat bit of mine off the hardwired …Yes and you can still pop off the thermostat bit of mine off the hardwired frame


But then it can't actually control the heating, so why would you do this? It would only still fire the heating if it's a secondary Smart Thermostat that is used for temperature control. Otherwise all heating would stop, not just the room in which the Smart Thermostat is installed, as all instructions to the boiler go through it.

Even if you have a wireless thermostat install, I wouldn't advise doing this, as the housing is definitely not designed for it - it bends and creaks as you pull it off and would wear down pretty quickly.
Edited by: "edanfalls" 14th Mar
edanfalls14/03/2020 21:15

But then it can't actually control the heating, so why would you do this? …But then it can't actually control the heating, so why would you do this? It would only still fire the heating if it's a secondary Smart Thermostat that is used for temperature control. Otherwise all heating would stop, not just the room in which the Smart Thermostat is installed, as all instructions to the boiler go through it.Even if you have a wireless thermostat install, I wouldn't advise doing this, as the housing is definitely not designed for it - it bends and creaks as you pull it off and would wear down pretty quickly.


I think you and Cantb... meant the Extension kit, which is indeed wired to your boiler while I meant the smart thermostat which is the actual thermostat. If you go to the tado app devices list you'll see what I mean.
Edited by: "Chad_" 14th Mar
Chad_14/03/2020 21:47

I think you and Cantb... meant the Extension kit, which is indeed wired to …I think you and Cantb... meant the Extension kit, which is indeed wired to your boiler while I meant the smart thermostat which is the actual thermostat. If you go to the tado app devices list you'll see what I mean.


No, not everyone has the extension kit. Many people have a Smart Thermostat hardwired with no extension kit. The Smart Thermostat sends the signals to the boiler (or the zones) to fire up.

Even if it's a different room calling for heat away from the Smart Thermostat and with just a Smart Radiator Thermostat installed, all calls for heat will go through the Smart Thermostat.

It's not just a thermostat. It's a room thermostat, a timer, and a controller in one, plus support for various wiring standards.
edanfalls14/03/2020 21:53

No, not everyone has the extension kit. Many people have a Smart …No, not everyone has the extension kit. Many people have a Smart Thermostat hardwired with no extension kit. The Smart Thermostat sends the signals to the boiler (or the zones) to fire up.Even if it's a different room calling for heat away from the Smart Thermostat and with just a Smart Radiator Thermostat installed, all calls for heat will go through the Smart Thermostat.It's not just a thermostat. It's a room thermostat, a timer, and a controller in one, plus support for various wiring standards.



I never said everybody does. The whole discussion started with mookydudz's comment who specifically mentioned a thermostat in the landing which is what we talked about afterwards. That is still someting that can be easily popped of its frame on the wall should you choose to move it. I think you're arguing with yourself by now.
Chad_14/03/2020 21:58

I never said everybody does. The whole discussion started with mookydudz's …I never said everybody does. The whole discussion started with mookydudz's comment who specifically mentioned a thermostat in the landing which is what we talked about afterwards. That is still someting that can be easily popped of its frame on the wall should you choose to move it. I think you're arguing with yourself by now.


I didn't realise it was an argument.

I was replying to your comment in which you specifically said that yes you can pop it off even if your Smart Thermostat is hardwired. All I was saying was that yes you can, but it's completely pointless in that case as it won't work.

And as I also said, having used these for a while myself, I wouldn't advise anyone to regularly remove them as they will end up breaking as they're not designed for it.

Just providing some advice, no need to get defensive.
edanfalls14/03/2020 22:01

I didn't realise it was an argument.I was replying to your comment in …I didn't realise it was an argument.I was replying to your comment in which you specifically said that yes you can pop it off even if your Smart Thermostat is hardwired. All I was saying was that yes you can, but it's completely pointless in that case as it won't work.And as I also said, having used these for a while myself, I wouldn't advise anyone to regularly remove them as they will end up breaking as they're not designed for it.Just providing some advice, no need to get defensive.


My apologies for misunderstanding.
Chad_14/03/2020 22:07

My apologies for misunderstanding.


No problem, it can be difficult to read the tone on forums like this. I've found some great advice on here before so try to add anything I can. And I thought your explanation above of being able to allow vs restrict heat was a very good way to explain it.
Chad_14/03/2020 09:09

Btw some ppl don't realise but even if your thermostat is wall mounted you …Btw some ppl don't realise but even if your thermostat is wall mounted you can still pop it off it's wall plate and move it around. It's battery operated as well.


What i dont understand is what the wiring is for then? So if i take the tado stat of the wall i can put in anywhere?
Budden14/03/2020 23:14

What i dont understand is what the wiring is for then? So if i take the …What i dont understand is what the wiring is for then? So if i take the tado stat of the wall i can put in anywhere?


You have to have a Tado extension kit fitted to be able to remove the thermostat from the wall.
Is anyone successfully using these Tado TRVs with a Nest thermostat controller? If so could you give some details on how it would work? TIA
petegriff15/03/2020 15:35

Is anyone successfully using these Tado TRVs with a Nest thermostat …Is anyone successfully using these Tado TRVs with a Nest thermostat controller? If so could you give some details on how it would work? TIA


This is exactly what I was looking up when I came across the offer! Maybe someone can help out. Ive just tried to piece stuff together so hopefully someone who knows will give better advise but I believe they can be used like normal TRVs with the Nest with more accurate temperature gauge and an app to change them instead of manually, so possibly not worth the money if you have mechanical TRVs installed. When used with Tado thermostat I believe they can "call for heat" when a room needs it where as the nest won't allow that!
Edited by: "The_Ramrod" 15th Mar
The_Ramrod15/03/2020 15:47

This is exactly what I was looking up when I came across the offer! Maybe …This is exactly what I was looking up when I came across the offer! Maybe someone can help out. Ive just tried to piece stuff together so hopefully someone who knows will give better advise but I believe they can be used like normal TRVs with the Nest with more accurate temperature gauge and an app to change them instead of manually, so possibly not worth the money if you have mechanical TRVs installed. When used with Tado thermostat I believe they can "call for heat" when a room needs it where as the nest won't allow that!


Tado give an example of an installation where it is not able to control the boiler. In this instance the Tado TVR's only control the maximum temerature, as they are unable to call for heat. You are correct that when used with a wired Tado thermostat the Tado TVRs can call for heat, alternatively the Tado extension can also be used for the Tado TVRs to call for heat. However, you would end up with both systems having to call for heat at the same time for heating to actually turn on.
You could get around it by using a full on home automation system like OpenHAB, but I don't see the point when the Tado thermostat is £59 currently at AO.
limegreenzx16/03/2020 16:04

Tado give an example of an installation where it is not able to control …Tado give an example of an installation where it is not able to control the boiler. In this instance the Tado TVR's only control the maximum temerature, as they are unable to call for heat. You are correct that when used with a wired Tado thermostat the Tado TVRs can call for heat, alternatively the Tado extension can also be used for the Tado TVRs to call for heat. However, you would end up with both systems having to call for heat at the same time for heating to actually turn on.You could get around it by using a full on home automation system like OpenHAB, but I don't see the point when the Tado thermostat is £59 currently at AO.


Thanks 😄
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