E-PRANCE New G1W Novatek 2.7" Car Dashcamera Driving Recorder - £27.59 - Sold by EPRANCE and Fulfilled by Amazon.
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E-PRANCE New G1W Novatek 2.7" Car Dashcamera Driving Recorder - £27.59 - Sold by EPRANCE and Fulfilled by Amazon.

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Found 9th Sep 2014
great in car camera at a bargain price.

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Original Poster

model is a g1w 30 fps

Original Poster

bargain at 29 but id rather pay 27.59

I prefer the sj4000 abit more expensive but it's a go pro killer for sure for peanuts compared to the go pro 3 prices.

Original Poster

G1W Novatek Dashcam Test (A drive around North Be…: youtu.be/s33…MBs

Robbiecfc

bargain at 29 but id rather pay 27.59



Sure but i thought the comments in the old topic might prove useful. Bought one myself. Instructions very poor and button actions confusing plus suction mount very poor albeit picture quality is great.

Original Poster

i just ordered one didnt see any reviews but the videos on utube looked great i have a taxi so will be very handy

I have this, i have no issues with the mount, picture quality is very good, you can zoom in and out, and it works really well at night.
Also has sound recording you can switch on and off.

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StevieG72

I have this, i have no issues with the mount, picture quality is very … I have this, i have no issues with the mount, picture quality is very good, you can zoom in and out, and it works really well at night.Also has sound recording you can switch on and off.


i drive around the centre of glasgow all night with work and you get alot of zombies walking out in front of the car so this camera will be great as evidence if i hit one.

G1W is a 'Public Model' product. Many factories assemble similar looking G1Ws that differ internally. There are at least 6 different mainboards & 2 or more CPUs in use in the G1W. What is a 'genuine' G1W? Nobody knows!

You may be lucky & get a 'good one'. Or not. How many factories supply Eprance?

A better choice is the A118 or Mobius.

dooper

A better choice is the A118 or Mobius.



I have an a118/b40 and can highly recommend it, very discrete, actually looks like its part of the car rather than an add-on....

G1W comes in many guises but at £27.59 its worth the punt...
Edited by: "atc28uk" 9th Sep 2014

Ingliston

I prefer … I prefer this:-http://www.amazon.co.uk/E-PRANCE-Recorder-G-sensor-Megapixel-Detection-DVR/dp/B00FKTQ3NE/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1410264019&sr=1-3&keywords=Dashcamera



Please ignore this advice. The GS608 is rubbish, a cheap clone of the Mini 0801 with an inferior processor & sub-standard video quality. Choose from A118, G1W (choose seller carefully), Innovv C1/C2 & Mobius. Most other cheap DashCams are junk.
Edited by: "dooper" 9th Sep 2014

I have this and it's brilliant.

Ingliston

I prefer … I prefer this:-http://www.amazon.co.uk/E-PRANCE-Recorder-G-sensor-Megapixel-Detection-DVR/dp/B00FKTQ3NE/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1410264019&sr=1-3&keywords=Dashcamera




I'm pretty sure that the video processor in that one only supports an actual native resolution of 720p and the claimed 1080p is upscaled from 720, so would be inferior to its native 720p resolution. No idea what the quality of the image sensor is like.

I think it also uses mjpeg compression which ends up as a compromise between producing very large video file sizes, or blocky images due to heavy mjpeg compresson to keep the filesize down.

The decent copies of the g1w really are native 1080p, and have a pretty good 1/3" 1080p cmos sensor, and use more modern H264 compression.

Looks like a good bit of kit, especially with insurance scams on the rise.

Pspvita

I prefer the sj4000 abit more expensive but it's a go pro killer for sure … I prefer the sj4000 abit more expensive but it's a go pro killer for sure for peanuts compared to the go pro 3 prices.



I've got one of these, an SJ4000 and a mobius, in terms of quality the other two are better, but in terms of ease of use and therefore acceptance by a wife, this is easily the best.

The mobius is small, has no screen, and gets very very hot when recording, there's two metal triangles that form a heat sink, I reckon they get hot enough to fry eggs, not sure I'd be happy recording at midday in July. I'd be very concerned about the actual lifespan as a dashcam.

The SJ4000 makes a great sports cam, and having spent the last couple of weeks using it in a swimming pool, the results are frankly awesome, especially considering the price. But it's downside is the size of LCD, perfectly adequate when holding, but too small at any distance from a driver.

I don't get the buttons action being confusing, to me it was obvious, mine arrived set for Chinese language, yet I still managed to navigate to the correct setting and change it to English. The manual is very sparse but then to me, the operation was intuitive, I think the best thing is to ignore the writing on the buttons and then treat it as though it was a digital watch, you very quickly get used to the buttons purpose.

I bought all my cameras from Techmoan's recommended links (although my first mobius never turned up, then seller was easy to deal with), search for the name and have a look at the reviews.

mike

mjbuckhurst

[quote=Pspvita]The mobius is small, has no screen, and gets very very hot … [quote=Pspvita]The mobius is small, has no screen, and gets very very hot when recording, there's two metal triangles that form a heat sink, I reckon they get hot enough to fry eggs, not sure I'd be happy recording at midday in July. I'd be very concerned about the actual lifespan as a dashcam.



The Mobius camera body doesn't get hot, it's visible heat sink gets hot while dissipating heat from the DSP. That's what heat sinks do. Worry if the heat sink doesn't get hot. My Mobius has been in daily use for a year & works perfectly, thanks in part to the heat sink doing a good job.

mjbuckhurst

[quote=Pspvita]The SJ4000 makes a great sports cam, and having spent the … [quote=Pspvita]The SJ4000 makes a great sports cam, and having spent the last couple of weeks using it in a swimming pool, the results are frankly awesome, especially considering the price. But it's downside is the size of LCD, perfectly adequate when holding, but too small at any distance from a driver.



The SJ4000 looks like a £250 GoPro. Anyone daft enough to use one as a dashcam should check the relevant excess on their Motor Insurance, as leaving an SJ4000 attached to the windscreen of a parked car guarantees a break-in.

dooper

The Mobius camera body doesn't get hot, it's visible heat sink gets hot … The Mobius camera body doesn't get hot, it's visible heat sink gets hot while dissipating heat from the DSP. That's what heat sinks do. Worry if the heat sink doesn't get hot. My Mobius has been in daily use for a year & works perfectly, thanks in part to the heat sink doing a good job.The SJ4000 looks like a £250 GoPro. Anyone daft enough to use one as a dashcam should check the relevant excess on their Motor Insurance, as leaving an SJ4000 attached to the windscreen of a parked car guarantees a break-in.



My mobius gets hot all over and we're not talking a slight warming, I'd say at least 40 degrees and the heat sinks themselves get stupidly hot, certainly hotter than any electronics, including a power amp running loud, that I've ever used. I know what the purpose of a heat sink is, but the outside temp of the heat sink is a good indicator of the inside temp of the electronics. Maybe ultimately heat isn't going to cause a problem, but considering the SJ4000 and the G1W both barely rise in temperature you have to wonder why the mobius needs to get so hot.

Unless the camera is mounted in a hidden location, it's going to be visible due to the charging cable, all these cameras cannot run on battery for anything but the shortest local journey. I found that removing the camera and cable when parked was the best option, even for the mobius.

The mobius is a great camera and produces excellent results, but I just don't think it works as well as the G1W as a car cam.

mike

Highly recommended, and it's even cheaper (and less obtrusive i.m.o.) in BLACK.

mjbuckhurst

My mobius gets hot all over and we're not talking a slight warming...



I have two Mobius cams. The camera body of neither of mine get hot, just the heat sinks. Mobius has been on sale for 14 months, tens of thousands have been sold & time has proven it to be reliable & dependable. Heat is not an issue. Tough as well ... RC Aircraft fans regularly report it surviving multiple crashes.

Mine are permanently mounted to the headlining, & are invisible from outside the car. None of my passengers have noticed them. In terms of image quality, you'd have to spend 3 times the price to achieve measurably better performance, & even then only in relation to night time video clarity.

Mobius is the benchmark for reasonably priced excellence. It'll still be on sale & still be receiving regular firmware enhancements long after every G1W & other currently available cheap dashcams have broken & gone to the waste tip.

melted

I'm pretty sure that the video processor in that one only supports an … I'm pretty sure that the video processor in that one only supports an actual native resolution of 720p and the claimed 1080p is upscaled from 720, so would be inferior to its native 720p resolution. No idea what the quality of the image sensor is like. I think it also uses mjpeg compression which ends up as a compromise between producing very large video file sizes, or blocky images due to heavy mjpeg compresson to keep the filesize down.The decent copies of the g1w really are native 1080p, and have a pretty good 1/3" 1080p cmos sensor, and use more modern H264 compression.




dooper

Please ignore this advice. The GS608 is rubbish, a cheap clone of the … Please ignore this advice. The GS608 is rubbish, a cheap clone of the Mini 0801 with an inferior processor & sub-standard video quality. Choose from A118, G1W (choose seller carefully), Innovv C1/C2 & Mobius. Most other cheap DashCams are junk.I unfortunately know because I bought and have tested both. I bought the G1W first and later noticed the smaller unit so then having both I fitted one then the other, I just stuck them, one at a time to the dashboard with blu tack and then viewed the resultant video. BOTH were identical but the G1W was much larger and therefore more visible and more of a target from outside the vehicle, and I want to keep my camera.



Edited by: "Ingliston" 10th Sep 2014

Ingliston

I unfortunately know because I bought and have tested both. I bought the … I unfortunately know because I bought and have tested both. I bought the G1W first and later noticed the smaller unit so then having both I fitted one then the other, I just stuck them, one at a time to the dashboard with blu tack and then viewed the resultant video. BOTH were identical but the G1W was much larger and therefore more visible and more of a target from outside the vehicle, and I want to keep my camera.



I looked at some "1080p" footage from your preferred dashcam when it was posted as a deal on here previously. It was not as sharp as the real 1080p footage recorded on my G1WH. (The g1wh is virtually the same as the g1w, but all black case with no chrome ring around the lens to attract attention to it, and slightly wider angle lens)

The specs for that camera on Amazon state it has a Novatek CPU, but not which one. However it also states only 24fps at 1080p, Video Format: AVI, Video Codec:MJPG

Those specs are consistent with it using a Novatek NT96220 which doesn't do true 1080p. And so is the price. See https://dashcamtalk.com/dash-cam-processors/

The G1W use the Novatek NT96650 which records 1080p at 30fps, but there are cheaper knock offs of the G1W that use either the NT96632 or NT96220 along with an inferior sensor to save money.


Edited by: "melted" 11th Sep 2014

Ingliston

Have a look at this site to help you … Have a look at this site to help you decide.http://dashboardcamerareviews.com/mini-0801-ambarella/



That's a 801 and a much better camera, not the one you linked to on Amazon. The Amazon Eprance GS608 is a look alike with completely different internals.

dooper

I have two Mobius cams. The camera body of neither of mine get hot, just … I have two Mobius cams. The camera body of neither of mine get hot, just the heat sinks. Mobius has been on sale for 14 months, tens of thousands have been sold & time has proven it to be reliable & dependable. Heat is not an issue. Tough as well ... RC Aircraft fans regularly report it surviving multiple crashes.Mine are permanently mounted to the headlining, & are invisible from outside the car. None of my passengers have noticed them. In terms of image quality, you'd have to spend 3 times the price to achieve measurably better performance, & even then only in relation to night time video clarity.Mobius is the benchmark for reasonably priced excellence. It'll still be on sale & still be receiving regular firmware enhancements long after every G1W & other currently available cheap dashcams have broken & gone to the waste tip.



Sadly, I wish that was true, my mobius has just died (it needs to be connected to a power source for around 5 minutes before it will allow it to be turned on), and if you search for 'broken' or 'heat issues' alongside the term mobius, you'll get lots of articles revealing that not everyone has a great time with the camera. What particularly worries me about the heat, none of the competing cameras (SJ4000, G1W, C1 ....) produce anywhere near the heat, yet many use the same chips, this shows potential design issues.

I suspect the G1W has as much likely lifespan as any of the others, certainly from an electrical point of view (all the circuit boards are likely to be made in China and to the same level of quality), so long as you don't make a habit of dropping the thing, there's no logical reason to suppose it won't last.

I'm sure there are benefits of having the camera on view, so long as you remove it when parking, although the G1W looks nice and cheap and not worth stealing.

mike

mjbuckhurst

...my mobius has just died...



Post your problem at forum.dashcamtalk.com/for…-12 & you'll get advice to restore your Mobius to full health. If it needs a new battery, then it's a 5 minute job.

As for heat-related problems, it's an urban myth that I spent 2 months researching before I bought my first Mobius. I've studied everything written on the subject, & it's pretty much all unfounded nonsense, much of it perpetuated by people obsessed by hot heat-sinks. Tens of thousands of happy owners have proven it to be a non-issue, including people in Australia, Texas, etc who leave their Mobius cams baking in scorching summer sunshine.

The majority of cheap DashCams will be dumped as soon as their batteries fail, & the camera is no longer able to save the last file being recorded when external power is cut. Very few owners have the time or skills to prise open the case or solder the battery connections. Not a problem with a Mobius, for which battery replacement or better still, installing the capacitor kit, takes 5 minutes. Plug & play.

I doubt whether many G1Ws will last much longer than 6 months. They're made with the cheapest possible components &, with so much variation in component specification from the various factories making it, there isn't really any such thing as a genuine G1W.

Mobius cams are made in one factory by a small, dedicated company, which is clearly very proud of their product. They've continually improved it's capabilities through regular firmware enhancements. They use Japanese 7 element glass lenses. The processor is not the same as used by the competition, it's a higher-specced & more expensive variant. Mobius control distribution through a network of approved vendors, so there's no risk of buying a fake / clone. Mobius cams on sale today are essentially identical to those sold 14 months ago.

There are no benefits to a dashcam being on view when a car is parked. A dashcam attached to a windscreen via suction cup or adhesive pad draws unwanted attention to it. Unplugging / dismounting / hiding a dashcam when parked, then reversing the process when you return to the car is a nonsense. Sod's law dictates you'll forget to mount the cam one day, & that's the day you'll have the accident that doesn't get recorded. Fit & forget. Buy a discreet camera, mount it discreetly, then forget about it.
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