East Mid Train to London £5 from Parkway
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East Mid Train to London £5 from Parkway

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Found 3rd Feb 2009Made hot 3rd Feb 2009
A pretty area specific deal i know, but for those near the new Parkway station that has recently opened, this is a fantastic deal.
You can also park there for just £1, so maybe worth commuting from far to here as well.

There you go, a deal thats not DVDs or Poundland!

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Yeah it sure makes a change not to see an average price HMV or Play dvd or indeed a tub of muller yogurt lol

Is this new station nearer to East Midlands airport than Loughborough then?

The hassel of getting from Loughborough to East Mids always stopped me flying to that airport in the past so if this is closer and not a round the houses bus trip that would be fantastic

Thanks OP, I didn't know about this station and I'm only 20 mins away!!

London here I come!!

theres also a parkaway in sheff confusing post

Is there an easy way to search for these fares, rather that trawling through the archaic trainline interface that doesn't show prices until you've selected trains?

jase.2;4267463

Yeah it sure makes a change not to see an average price HMV or Play dvd … Yeah it sure makes a change not to see an average price HMV or Play dvd or indeed a tub of muller yogurt lolIs this new station nearer to East Midlands airport than Loughborough then?The hassel of getting from Loughborough to East Mids always stopped me flying to that airport in the past so if this is closer and not a round the houses bus trip that would be fantastic



It's in the shadow of those cooling towers near the airport. Shuttle buses every 15 mins.

jase.2;4267463

Yeah it sure makes a change not to see an average price HMV or Play dvd … Yeah it sure makes a change not to see an average price HMV or Play dvd or indeed a tub of muller yogurt lolIs this new station nearer to East Midlands airport than Loughborough then?The hassel of getting from Loughborough to East Mids always stopped me flying to that airport in the past so if this is closer and not a round the houses bus trip that would be fantastic



Its on the A453 literally next to the Ratcliffe on Soar power station, about a mile from J24 of the M1 :thumbsup:

5 mins in a car to East mids tops (unless its 5pm on a friday of course! )

(spooky! posted at the same time termite lol)

East Midlands Parkway is our brand new station serving customers in the East Midlands. The station provides fast, frequent services to London, Leicester, Derby, Nottingham, Loughborough and Lincoln. Located just off the M1, and with more than 850 car parking spaces available, it provides a convenient way to access these cities and avoid congestion.

The station also provides easy access to East Midlands Airport, just six miles away with a shuttle service every 15 minutes.

And it only cost £21 million !!!!

hunter82;4267496

theres also a parkaway in sheff confusing post



We also have one in Liverpool.

hunter82;4267496

theres also a parkaway in sheff confusing post



No there isn't

The parkway in Sheffield is a road that leads from the M1 into the city centre from Jctn 33


This is a good deal

It's a great deal if you can actually find a £5 fare ... :x

If in anyone can actually see the logic in putting a station in the middle of nowhere, costing £21M, and supposedly offering an alternative for commuters who would normally drive into Nottingham, Derby etc, and then charging these commuters NINE pounds to park (which it will be from March) on top of their train fare, please let me know.

I don't think they exist - just a marketing ploy!! The cheapest I can find is £17 leaving at the "Crack of Dawn" but the same train is only £15 from Loughborough!!

This is the reason I've never used East Midlands trains. Phantom offers. Maybe if i want to leave at 11.00AM on a Sunday morning, and return at 3.00PM they exist, but I wouldn't count on it.

There's plenty on Wednesday 11th February around lunchtime at £5. Can't find any for the northbound but I haven't looked very hard.

I wouldn't class this as a phantom offer; assume that the £5 fares are on those services that are least used (therefore, those least likely to be requested).

andythebrave;4268542

There's plenty on Wednesday 11th February around lunchtime at £5. Can't … There's plenty on Wednesday 11th February around lunchtime at £5. Can't find any for the northbound but I haven't looked very hard.I wouldn't class this as a phantom offer; assume that the £5 fares are on those services that are least used (therefore, those least likely to be requested).



What you really mean is when nobody wants to go!!

Hoddy;4268597

What you really mean is when nobody wants to go!!



Might be alright for students or people wanting to see a show in the evening, but railway companies have a long way to go before they establish the pricing structure adopted by budget airline and coach firms.

And make their pricing structures coherent - every train has about eight price levels.

Well yes, it's the same with airlines or anything else that has a regular schedule. The idea is to encourage people who would not otherwise have travelled at all to travel on offpeak services.

This would presumably apply to those who are perhaps considering a few days away but will be led on where to go by such things as price.

Where this practice falls down is when those who need to travel but can do so at any time find the cheapies and use them instead of the normal fares that they would otherwise have purchased but I guess there aren't too many of them.

GeoffAngela;4268646

Might be alright for students or people wanting to see a show in the … Might be alright for students or people wanting to see a show in the evening, but railway companies have a long way to go before they establish the pricing structure adopted by budget airline and coach firms.And make their pricing structures coherent - every train has about eight price levels.



This is the pricing structure adopted by budget airlines and coach firms. The only difference is that you see all of the options available rather than only one. It's not difficult, select the cheapest and book.

Nope, they work on the principle of the earlier you book, the cheaper the fare. It rises exponentially as the the date gets closer.

You can fly to Dublin at peak hours (7.00AM) for next to nothing if you're prepared to book months ahead. Book the day before and you'll pay closer to £200.

Well, its not for me as I live in London but I think its hot just because its not some average/rubbish dvd from 10 years ago! Enough of the dvds now. If we want one we'll have a look on play.com or amazon ourselves. :whistling:

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teerex;4269572

Well, its not for me as I live in London but I think its hot just because … Well, its not for me as I live in London but I think its hot just because its not some average/rubbish dvd from 10 years ago! Enough of the dvds now. If we want one we'll have a look on play.com or amazon ourselves. :whistling:



Exactly!

The parkway in Sheffield is a road that leads from the M1 into the city … The parkway in Sheffield is a road that leads from the M1 into the city centre from Jctn 33



No its not, its a wholesale market just off Junction 33.

GeoffAngela;4269360

Nope, they work on the principle of the earlier you book, the cheaper the … Nope, they work on the principle of the earlier you book, the cheaper the fare. It rises exponentially as the the date gets closer.You can fly to Dublin at peak hours (7.00AM) for next to nothing if you're prepared to book months ahead. Book the day before and you'll pay closer to £200.



I tested it out for a random date in May (13th) DUB-STN-DUB and all flights are 0.00EUR. Total cost 61.89EUR once the taxes and charges are included.

There is a Ryanair deal for £10 return all in at the moment with wide availability for February and March except for school holidays and all Fridays and Sundays. It must be booked at least 14 days in advance unlike the EMT deal which can be booked up to the day before travel. Now the dates that are left are definitely those that no one wants to go!

Of course, with the airline deal there'd probably have to be another 25GBP/EUR of expense to get to where you actually want to go.

The basic principle is that old chestnut of supply and demand.

It would seem that the supply of seats between Dublin and London is too great hence the perceived need to offer deals at £5 single including taxes. They still get charged the taxes by third parties so it would be interesting to see a good financial justification for selling a seat and directly losing around £40 return on it. Unless, of course, taxes and charges are the complete sham that many of us suspect them to be.

It would also seem that the supply of seats between Sheffield and the east Midlands and London is probably about right in the mornings and afternoons and that they are overabundant in the middle part of the day. This is what you would expect from a normal well run transport operation.

The pricing structures are identical. What we see from day to day are differences in the actual products being put to market as a result of capacity and demand.

cooper2085;4269988

No its not, its a wholesale market just off Junction 33.



No it's not

en.wikipedia.org/wik…way

Delightful91;4267759

We also have one in Liverpool.



The Parkway in Sheffield/Rotherham is a road not a new train station.

Why do some people go out of their way to be negative and find any old excuse to vote cold? It's a sign of the times that folk would rather be unkind than kind.

andythebrave;4270071

I tested it out for a random date in May (13th) DUB-STN-DUB and all … I tested it out for a random date in May (13th) DUB-STN-DUB and all flights are 0.00EUR. Total cost 61.89EUR once the taxes and charges are included.There is a Ryanair deal for £10 return all in at the moment with wide availability for February and March except for school holidays and all Fridays and Sundays. It must be booked at least 14 days in advance unlike the EMT deal which can be booked up to the day before travel. Now the dates that are left are definitely those that no one wants to go!Of course, with the airline deal there'd probably have to be another 25GBP/EUR of expense to get to where you actually want to go.The basic principle is that old chestnut of supply and demand.It would seem that the supply of seats between Dublin and London is too great hence the perceived need to offer deals at £5 single including taxes. They still get charged the taxes by third parties so it would be interesting to see a good financial justification for selling a seat and directly losing around £40 return on it. Unless, of course, taxes and charges are the complete sham that many of us suspect them to be.It would also seem that the supply of seats between Sheffield and the east Midlands and London is probably about right in the mornings and afternoons and that they are overabundant in the middle part of the day. This is what you would expect from a normal well run transport operation.The pricing structures are identical. What we see from day to day are differences in the actual products being put to market as a result of capacity and demand.



They are either cutting their losses or basically advertising by offering the £5 fares. The big £5 fare deals attract thousands of people to browse the flights, who may not have done before, thus drumming up more (hopefully repeat) passengers.

When they are getting rid of seats cheaply, they are just cutting their losses as its better to get £5 for a full seat than £0 and an empty seat.

As for the taxes and charges, I have no idea if they are correct or not, but wouldn't a regulator have spotted it by now if they weren't real?

callum9999;4270475

They are either cutting their losses or basically advertising by offering … They are either cutting their losses or basically advertising by offering the £5 fares. The big £5 fare deals attract thousands of people to browse the flights, who may not have done before, thus drumming up more (hopefully repeat) passengers.When they are getting rid of seats cheaply, they are just cutting their losses as its better to get £5 for a full seat than £0 and an empty seat.As for the taxes and charges, I have no idea if they are correct or not, but wouldn't a regulator have spotted it by now if they weren't real?



I'm not sure about regulator's spotting it. After all, it took around 10 years for advertising fares excluding taxes and other non-optional charges to be banned (although it's still allowed on airlines' own websites).

More likely is either than the airlines have their own kickback schemes with airports or that they've haggled the operator down to charging only for 85-90% of the aircraft's capacity - that way they can sell the first 10-15% for virtually nothing (or, indeed nothing at all) because it costs them nothing at all to carry them.

In transport terms this is marginal capacity, closely related to marginal time (where a rail or air company has spare time on a train or plane so they send it somewhere else and can sell the capacity cheaply as the lease/purchase costs are already covered by the existing programme.

In my hazy past in the airline and tour operator business this practice was widespread amongst charter airlines when billing their holiday company clients; mainly because the average patronage was around 85-90% and to save a bucket load of administration headaches.

Just to clear things up: there are numerous roads called 'Parkway' all over the UK, including the one in Sheffield/Rotherham, plus there are already numerous railway stations called 'Parkway' all over the UK (]wikipedia list of Parkway railway stations.

Also ]yield management is a basic stable of selling lots of goods and services, including train tickets.

last week i booked 4 adults and 1 child east midland parkway to london for 58.50. better than getting a family and friends rail card.:-D

These cheap tickets are £3.30 with a 16-25 Railcard! Now that is a good deal. Can't find any tickets when I want to come back on the Sunday though.

Any idea if the parking is secure there?

I suppose it is in the middle of nowhere which is one help!

GeoffAngela;4267861

If in anyone can actually see the logic in putting a station in the … If in anyone can actually see the logic in putting a station in the middle of nowhere, costing £21M, and supposedly offering an alternative for commuters who would normally drive into Nottingham, Derby etc, and then charging these commuters NINE pounds to park (which it will be from March) on top of their train fare, please let me know.



rip off britain nothing changes:x

OMG East Midlands trains doing DEALS?!!!!! Is this a joke.....

Let me explain my suprise....

This is the company that took over from Midland Mainline (who always had £1 offers to London etc) on their first day they put most ticket prices up by 40%. They then put old two carriage trains onto the Liverpool - Norwich Route (goes through Manchester, Sheffield, NOTTS) and is one of the busiest routes in the UK ...... it is now over congested by over 328% per train (facts from BBC)

Then this year East Midlands trains said they are going to put tickets up by a further 20%+

Now you can understand why I am so shocked they finally have a DEAL!

Not for me as I live in Nottingham so too far away but I voted HOT!

black knight;4272035

Any idea if the parking is secure there?I suppose it is in the middle of … Any idea if the parking is secure there?I suppose it is in the middle of nowhere which is one help!




Our train to London diverted to this station a few weeks ago (I think they were testing as the train stopped but we were told it was not a proper stop). It is in the middle of nowhere and next to the Power Station - three dirty horrible huge power station chinmeys - I thought it was a new station opening for Power Station workers as they were perhaps expending the power station.

hunter82;4267496

theres also a parkaway in sheff confusing post


There are loads of Parkway stations throughout the country...
There's only one at East Midlands though, hence "Parkway" and "East Midlands" in that confusing title

better change the title mate, we have lots of Parkway station around.

thekudos;4272277

Our train to London diverted to this station a few weeks ago (I think … Our train to London diverted to this station a few weeks ago (I think they were testing as the train stopped but we were told it was not a proper stop). It is in the middle of nowhere and next to the Power Station - three dirty horrible huge power station chinmeys - I thought it was a new station opening for Power Station workers as they were perhaps expending the power station.


Err ... there are EIGHT "dirty horrible huge power station" cooling towers at Ratcliiffe on Trent Power Station. ;-)

jayman89;4270898

last week i booked 4 adults and 1 child east midland parkway to london … last week i booked 4 adults and 1 child east midland parkway to london for 58.50. better than getting a family and friends rail card.:-D



Four adults qualify for a group ticket on East Midlands Trains, these give remarkable discounts.

would have been money better spent if they built a station next to the airport, something similer like they have at manchester airport, get off straight into airport sort of thing, i,m sure it would have been a good way to get people to use the airport more,
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