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EBAY FREE POSTAGE LISTING DAY - WEDNESDAY 7TH MARCH
EBAY FREE POSTAGE LISTING DAY - WEDNESDAY 7TH MARCH

EBAY FREE POSTAGE LISTING DAY - WEDNESDAY 7TH MARCH

This Wednesday, 7th March, if you list an item on eBay.co.uk offering a free UK postage option youll pay a reduced 5p Insertion Fee and can use the Gallery Listing Upgrade feature for free.

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eBay doing there usual "lets screw the sellers again". Sellers save a few pence but ultimately lose ££££'s because of taking the hit on the free postage!

I especially like this "In the Insurance section: sellers must not require insurance and the cost of insurance must be set to zero." So any PayPal claim goes straight to the buyers because you didn't take insurance out OR you pay for the insurance yourself and lose more cash.

I love eBay!

This is a right scam by ebay. You will be paying full fees on the whole price of the item. Normally you don't pay ebay fees on the P&P.
Soz, voted cold.

Thanks for the pointer

Banned

so how does this work for the Buyer and Seller?

Ebay dont give a **** about anyone on their site, they are one of these worst companies in the world for customer service. I think their customer service department is run by a monkey in a zoo, and they probably dont even feed it cause it cuts into profits.

Oh and one of these days people are gonna realise that eBay is utter crap and someone who makes another auction site that cares about its customers is going to do very well.

dinosteveus

This is a right scam by ebay. You will be paying full fees on the whole … This is a right scam by ebay. You will be paying full fees on the whole price of the item. Normally you don't pay ebay fees on the P&P.Soz, voted cold.


my thoughts entirely - ditto

Another 'Ebay lose nothing, seller loses money' marketing ploy.

If anyone does use this 'offer' and wants to sell dvds and video games be sure to list these items under general category so that eby only get 5.25% fees as opposed to the 'new' 9% fee.

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so how does this work for the Buyer and Seller?

The buyer will benefit the most because ebays standard purchase protection only covers the items sale amount, this way if you have a problem you will get more money back if the item does not qualify for Paypals buyer protection.
If I sold you an item worth £100 and the P&P was £20 you could only claim £100 from ebay. (They charge a £15 admin fee) so you would get £85, you'd lose £15.00 plus £20.00 = £35.00
With this offer if I sold an item for £120 with FREE P&P you would be able to claim £120, but you'd still have to pay the £15.00 admin fee but you would get more back.
The above is only effective if the item did not qualify for Paypals buyer protection. PBP covers all of the money you paid the seller.

As a seller you are charged a Final Value Fee on the whole amount if you offer FREE P&P. Normally you don't get charged a FVF on the P&P.

Uhm, why don't people simply add the correct amount to the items price?

Most buyers can do basic math and realise they are paying the same amount.

I'll be taking full advantage of this day, not entirely certain what people are complaining about.

If you sell widgets for £1 & £1 P&P then simply sell them for £2 with free P&P (or £2 and a few pennies to cover the extra FVF if you like) and qualify for the 5p listing and free gallery upgrade.

Basic maths really shouldn't be beyond people selling, or buying, on Ebay.

Sorry, have to vote this cold too for the reasons mentioned above.

*shrug* The more people who don't realise some primary school maths can net them a good saving the less listings clutter Ebay around mine

Artemis

If you sell widgets for £1 & £1 P&P then simply sell them for £2 with fr … If you sell widgets for £1 & £1 P&P then simply sell them for £2 with free P&P (or £2 and a few pennies to cover the extra FVF if you like) and qualify for the 5p listing and free gallery upgrade.Basic maths really shouldn't be beyond people selling, or buying, on Ebay.



That'd only work for a buy it now auction with very low postage costs. For a buy it now with high postage costs (a fiver say) you'd end up losing more in FV fees than you've saved in the listing fee.

Obviously for a conventional auction there'd be no way of adding the charge to the selling price.

The only type of seller I can see this being really useful for are ones selling ebooks where there is no postage involved anway.

Scorpius

The only type of seller I can see this being really useful for are ones … The only type of seller I can see this being really useful for are ones selling ebooks where there is no postage involved anway.



Well well, ebay, what a surprise, your promotion favours the scammers selling ebooks and no one else, great.

Artemis

If you sell widgets for £1 & £1 P&P then simply sell them for £2 with fr … If you sell widgets for £1 & £1 P&P then simply sell them for £2 with free P&P (or £2 and a few pennies to cover the extra FVF if you like) and qualify for the 5p listing and free gallery upgrade.Basic maths really shouldn't be beyond people selling, or buying, on Ebay.



it doesn't actually work like that. Its not about basic maths its about how people perceive a bargain

I sell items on ebay for 99p with p&p at 1.39 making a total of £2.38 and they sell.
I have listed the same items at £2.38 with free postage and packaging and they don't sell

Scorpius

That'd only work for a buy it now auction with very low postage costs. … That'd only work for a buy it now auction with very low postage costs. For a buy it now with high postage costs (a fiver say) you'd end up losing more in FV fees than you've saved in the listing fee.



Why exactly would that be?

Scorpius

Obviously for a conventional auction there'd be no way of adding the … Obviously for a conventional auction there'd be no way of adding the charge to the selling price.



People should be starting their auctions at the lowest price they'd take so they can now start their auctions at the lowest price they'll take 'plus' P&P.

The only auction it doesn't work for is people who start auctions at 99p and hope they reach what they want, which is the cheapest listing format anyway.

duneindex

it doesn't actually work like that. Its not about basic maths its about … it doesn't actually work like that. Its not about basic maths its about how people perceive a bargainI sell items on ebay for 99p with p&p at 1.39 making a total of £2.38 and they sell.I have listed the same items at £2.38 with free postage and packaging and they don't sell



I've been selling professionally on Ebay for over 5 years. It just doesn't work that way.

Sure a certain percentage of people do think that way but I'm fine with cutting that particular percentage of people out of my auctions as they are generally the stupid ones.

Anyway, don't know why I'm arguing. The more people who don't list the better it is for me

Artemis

I've been selling professionally on Ebay for over 5 years. It just … I've been selling professionally on Ebay for over 5 years. It just doesn't work that way.Sure a certain percentage of people do think that way but I'm fine with cutting that particular percentage of people out of my auctions as they are generally the stupid ones.Anyway, don't know why I'm arguing. The more people who don't list the better it is for me



I'm a professional seller on ebay, have been for years and I make a good living from my two accounts.
I will NOT be listing on the 7th. I can do the Maths, thank you.:x

Banned

duneindex

it doesn't actually work like that. Its not about basic maths its about … it doesn't actually work like that. Its not about basic maths its about how people perceive a bargainI sell items on ebay for 99p with p&p at 1.39 making a total of £2.38 and they sell.I have listed the same items at £2.38 with free postage and packaging and they don't sell



Not to mention at 99p ebay make 5p final value fee and at £2.38 ebay make 12p. If you sell 1,000, the difference will be £70 in greedbay's favour!

Buyer pays the same but you lose out.

Artemis

I've been selling professionally on Ebay for over 5 years. It just … I've been selling professionally on Ebay for over 5 years. It just doesn't work that way.Sure a certain percentage of people do think that way but I'm fine with cutting that particular percentage of people out of my auctions as they are generally the stupid ones.Anyway, don't know why I'm arguing. The more people who don't list the better it is for me



No offense, but I think you totally missed the point.

mrtea

Not to mention at 99p ebay make 5p final value fee and at £2.38 ebay make … Not to mention at 99p ebay make 5p final value fee and at £2.38 ebay make 12p. If you sell 1,000, the difference will be £70 in greedbay's favour!Buyer pays the same but you lose out.



and don't forget they make from the paypal too .. over 20p on a 99p sale

i remember the good old days of ebay
i started in nov 1998 and they were good days but mainly selling in the american market ....and with no paypal to convert fees

those were the free listing days and the low fee days before the greed of the big boys came in. But if you are wiley and clever you can still make a living. :whistling: It's just sad to see such a good idea turn so bad :-(

Blanco

No offense, but I think you totally missed the point.



Which you conveniently forgot to remind me of?

I'll be making extra money from this offer, not really my problem if others can't see how they can.

knightsimon

Oh and one of these days people are gonna realise that eBay is utter crap … Oh and one of these days people are gonna realise that eBay is utter crap and someone who makes another auction site that cares about its customers is going to do very well.



Some of us are working on those very sites, but getting people away from a site with so many visitors will prove difficult. The more they treat people badly, the easier they make it for the little people

mrtea

Not to mention at 99p ebay make 5p final value fee and at £2.38 ebay make … Not to mention at 99p ebay make 5p final value fee and at £2.38 ebay make 12p. If you sell 1,000, the difference will be £70 in greedbay's favour!Buyer pays the same but you lose out.


Yeah, Id give it a miss if I were you

Ebay still allow you to list the traditional way
Insertion fee 15p
Gallery fee 15p
Total (including fvf of 5p) = 35p

Sell 1000 and you will be giving ebay £180 extra! ;-)

Voted Hot here, saving for BIN items:thumbsup:

Whenever there is an eBay thread, people argue lol

Artemis, stop being so stubborn...people list things in different ways, different methods, different items..everyone has thier own selling preferences. Just because this one works to your advantage doesn't mean it will for everyone. Unlike 10p listing days that are an advantage to everyone, this is more specific and regardless...the overall & main winners from it are eBay.

Starlet

the overall & main winners from it are eBay.



As is any company with increased sales revenue

Considering it is only 5p in some catorgories anyway, this is taking the micheal a bit. Its just a way for them to increase there profits on FVFs. I wonder why so many auctions have postage at 5 times mnore than the items worth.

I may seem thick here but I sell stuff on ebay not business wise but just my old stuff I do not see how this works am I right in thinking.

I list item starting bid of 99p but I cannot put a postage cost in. Is that right.

So if I list a item that would cost £3 to send and it stays at 99p I end up paying £2.01 plus the item for selling it?

Starlet

Whenever there is an eBay thread, people argue lolArtemis, stop being so … Whenever there is an eBay thread, people argue lolArtemis, stop being so stubborn...people list things in different ways, different methods, different items..everyone has thier own selling preferences. Just because this one works to your advantage doesn't mean it will for everyone. Unlike 10p listing days that are an advantage to everyone, this is more specific and regardless...the overall & main winners from it are eBay.




My point was that it 'does' work for everyone as long as they alter their listings to take advantage of the offer.

Nothing to be stubborn about, it's just a fact.

Artemis

My point was that it 'does' work for everyone as long as they alter their … My point was that it 'does' work for everyone as long as they alter their listings to take advantage of the offer.Nothing to be stubborn about, it's just a fact.


Does NOT work for me.
Don't tell me it does when I know it doesn't. You have no idea what I sell on my other ID and how much my P&P is or what the competition is.

paulsssss

I may seem thick here but I sell stuff on ebay not business wise but just … I may seem thick here but I sell stuff on ebay not business wise but just my old stuff I do not see how this works am I right in thinking.I list item starting bid of 99p but I cannot put a postage cost in. Is that right.So if I list a item that would cost £3 to send and it stays at 99p I end up paying £2.01 plus the item for selling it?



Yes, which is why you 'don't' list it at 99p. If it costs £3 to post it then list it at £3.99 (Or £4 and change if you want to cover the few extra pence in FVFs Ebay will take).

The majority of buyers will look at your listing and think 'ok, that will cost me £4' just like they would if you listed it at 99p with a P&P of £3.

dinosteveus

Does NOT work for me. Don't tell me it does when I know it doesn't. You … Does NOT work for me. Don't tell me it does when I know it doesn't. You have no idea what I sell on my other ID and how much my P&P is or what the competition is.



None of those things are relevant so I don't need to know them.

Simple fact is that the total price will remain the same to the buyer and the cost to list will be lower to the seller.

Artemis

My point was that it 'does' work for everyone as long as they alter their … My point was that it 'does' work for everyone as long as they alter their listings to take advantage of the offer.Nothing to be stubborn about, it's just a fact.




Would you be willing to alter your way of selling, ignore all of your own personal experiences and findings that you have made over what works for you over the years you have been selling on eBay to take advantage of this?

This deal does not aid me in any way because of what I sell and how I sell it, and I am not about to go against everything I know and take risks, for the sake of saving a few pence, knowing full well eBay are the ones benefiting from it far more than I could.

It works for you, great...but it is extremely stubborn (being polite about it) of you to not just be able to throw up your hands and say 'yes, I can see this deal isn't for everyone'.

Artemis

None of those things are relevant so I don't need to know them.Simple … None of those things are relevant so I don't need to know them.Simple fact is that the total price will remain the same to the buyer and the cost to list will be lower to the seller.


FVF's will not be the same.

Interesting, I have done some calculations on my eBay discussion forum (see sig) and you could possibly be better off depending on what you sell, your postage etc.

Please feel free to sign up and comment.

Starlet

Would you be willing to alter your way of selling, ignore all of your own … Would you be willing to alter your way of selling, ignore all of your own personal experiences and findings that you have made over what works for you over the years you have been selling on eBay to take advantage of this?This deal does not aid me in any way because of what I sell and how I sell it, and I am not about to go against everything I know and take risks, for the sake of saving a few pence, knowing full well eBay are the ones benefiting from it far more than I could.It works for you, great...but it is extremely stubborn (being polite about it) of you to not just be able to throw up your hands and say 'yes, I can see this deal isn't for everyone'.



It might be if I had said that this deal 'was' for everyone. I was simply refuting people who claimed it was some kind of con.

Anyone 'can' use this deal if they so wish. It won't take me long to copy all my turbo lister auctions, switch them up a bit and upload them as a one time deal for this offer. I don't believe anyone is suggesting that you do anything as melodramatic as " alter your way of selling, ignore all of your own personal experiences and findings that you have made over what works for you over the years you have been selling on eBay ".

Without busting out a calculator the only people I can dream of this not working for are people who sell things that are like 99p that cost £20 to post. I have no idea what those items might be though but I'm sure there are some legitiamte items out there somewhere. I very much doubt everyone who has voted this deal cold sells them though.

An example...

Normal listing - 99p & £2 P&P = listing fee 15p + FVF 5p = 20p
Sale listing - £2.99 = listing fee 5p + FVF 15p = 20p

My suggestion was to simply list at £3.16 to cover the extra fvf. At that rate you are listing at 1/3rd of original cost so if you think an increase of 17p will decrease your sales by 66% then fair enough, it's not for you, but then again god knows what kind of business you are running for that to be the case.

Anyone 'can' take advantage of this offer, it's not a con, it's simply yet another variation. Certainly more useful to the majority than BIN only offers or 99p or less offers.

People voting cold because Ebay are big business is just stupid. But like I said, less people who take advantage of the deal the better for me as my listings will be slightly less cluttered. Next time Ill just let the ignorance wash over me

Edit: Completely forgot to take the free 15p Gallery into account in the above.

Correct me if I am wrong but I thought paypal did not take a sum of your postage costs just the final selling fee of the item so you would be worst off.

PayPal just take a flat fee, postage and auction price is not taken into consideration.
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