eBay sellers, this might help you stop getting ripped off! Fake Pretend Tracked Post Stickers £1.99 @ Ebay - gemsaninks
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eBay sellers, this might help you stop getting ripped off! Fake Pretend Tracked Post Stickers £1.99 @ Ebay - gemsaninks

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Found 28th Jan
As a eBay seller I'm fed up with buyers saying they 'haven't received' their items. I sell lots of items under £5 which aren't worth sending signed for. The other week was the final straw when I had a woman say that 2 separate parcels I sent hadn't arrived.

The first thing I do is pop one of these tracking stickers on the front of the parcel, it won't deter everyone but might make them think twice.

I always report the buyer to eBay, this takes seconds to do.

I always put feedback for the buyer in capital letters saying BUYER SAID ITEM DIDN'T ARRIVE SO REFUND GIVEN, then I go into the feedback forum to follow up this comment with the same capital text, this makes the feedback stand out and alerts others sellers to report the buyer also. Yes they can put their feedback as private but some people both buy and sell on accounts so need it public.

Always get proof of postage, Paypal/eBay now accept this as part of a claim.
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This will probably get removed, but I hear your plight
What if I buy this and say I never received it?
Presumably you aren't aware that all standard small/medium parcels sent via Royal Mail now have online proof of delivery? The receipt has a code which can be used for Paypal/Ebay to show it's been delivered. The only reason to use Signed For is if you want the additional insurance.
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Ioa3 m ago

What if I buy this and say I never received it?


I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. I will look for you, I will find you....
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This will probably get removed, but I hear your plight
They just move to broke/doesnt work for an instant block of your ££ instead. heat added for effort tho
What if I buy this and say I never received it?
Presumably you aren't aware that all standard small/medium parcels sent via Royal Mail now have online proof of delivery? The receipt has a code which can be used for Paypal/Ebay to show it's been delivered. The only reason to use Signed For is if you want the additional insurance.
I'd know straight away if I seen that. I'd still open a haven't received case and get a refund. Must have refunded thousands over the years
Great idea tbh!
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Ioa3 m ago

What if I buy this and say I never received it?


I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. I will look for you, I will find you....
RM will rip these off or black marker over them.
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merlinthehappypig2 m ago

Presumably you aren't aware that all standard small/medium parcels sent …Presumably you aren't aware that all standard small/medium parcels sent via Royal Mail now have online proof of delivery? The receipt has a code which can be used for Paypal/Ebay to show it's been delivered. The only reason to use Signed For is if you want the additional insurance.


And for the parcels that simply have a large 1st class stamp stuck on them?
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ssc11 m ago

RM will rip these off or black marker over them.


Really, it was my postman that suggested the labels to me?
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Mrswitch9 m ago

This will probably get removed, but I hear your plight


I hope not as if it stops a few people getting stung then that's a bonus
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NiceToBeKind5 m ago

And for the parcels that simply have a large 1st class stamp stuck on them?



As I said in my post, it's only small/medium parcels. Something with a large 1st class stamp stuck on it is a large letter. Not what I said. You mentioned you had a couple of parcels that were claimed not to have been delivered last week. I thought my post might help, but no matter if you prefer sticking fake labels on them.
Edited by: "merlinthehappypig" 28th Jan
NiceToBeKind2 m ago

Really, it was my postman that suggested the labels to me?


Its probably down to luck. These are not recognised by them. Maybe place them on the back of the package.
I had the same issue on eBay, so now charge for and send everything 2nd class recorded. Stopped the problem straight away!
So your idea to stop con artists is to con all your buyers? why don't just use proper tracking.
I don't know what you people do but I've sent maybe 20,000 parcels and letters via to eBay buyers and only a small fraction have ever not reached the person. Outside eBay I've sent maybe 100,000 around the world and never had problems like you people have.
magilly5 m ago

I had the same issue on eBay, so now charge for and send everything 2nd …I had the same issue on eBay, so now charge for and send everything 2nd class recorded. Stopped the problem straight away!



Yep, me too. I won't ever sell anything on eBay any more unless the buyer agrees to recorded delivery, at the very least. It puts the price up a bit, but for the most part stops the idiots from stealing cheaper items by claiming they never arrived.
Edited by: "leaston" 28th Jan
4TheMenyNotTheFew10 m ago

So your idea to stop con artists is to con all your buyers? why don't just …So your idea to stop con artists is to con all your buyers? why don't just use proper tracking. I don't know what you people do but I've sent maybe 20,000 parcels and letters via to eBay buyers and only a small fraction have ever not reached the person. Outside eBay I've sent maybe 100,000 around the world and never had problems like you people have.


It's not worth it to pay for tracking if you only send a few items. It's fine if you're an international seller selling hundreds of thousands of items, you can get economies of scale but not everybody can, don't be so narrow minded.
It won't stop prolific abusers, they won't even notice, and if they do most won't care. Tracked is meaningless unless it proves the correct person received it. I've had people claim they haven't received packages even when I've paid for tracked delivery.

Was quite amusing the last time someone tried this, I sent him a screenshot of the RM tracking page with his Mum's signature on it. Implied I would tell his Mum he was being a naughty boy. No response after that, so still forced me to wait until the claim was dismissed to get the money.

Buyers wouldn't be happy if this kind of thing was done to them. It's a minority of buyers (depending on the type of items you are selling, youngsters buying games/films/gadgets is the worst), and so far (touch wood for future cases) all disputes have been dismissed in my favour.

Waste of time IMO
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4TheMenyNotTheFew16 m ago

So your idea to stop con artists is to con all your buyers? why don't just …So your idea to stop con artists is to con all your buyers? why don't just use proper tracking. I don't know what you people do but I've sent maybe 20,000 parcels and letters via to eBay buyers and only a small fraction have ever not reached the person. Outside eBay I've sent maybe 100,000 around the world and never had problems like you people have.


How am I conning anyone? I just want to stick these on to try to deter the fraudsters from saying the item never arrived when it did.
It costs 75 pence to get proof of delivery from memory - just add the cost onto your ebay postage. If you want to ensure something is delivered it is ALWAYS worth sending it tracked.

This is a non-problem for anyone who follows basic ebay best practice
Edited by: "unknownorigin" 28th Jan
NiceToBeKind28th Jan

How am I conning anyone? I just want to stick these on to try to deter the …How am I conning anyone? I just want to stick these on to try to deter the fraudsters from saying the item never arrived when it did.



Your are suggesting they are being tracked when they are not. If I misunderstood and they are tracked I apologise.
ssc126 m ago

Its probably down to luck. These are not recognised by them. Maybe place …Its probably down to luck. These are not recognised by them. Maybe place them on the back of the package.


I Work in the post office and have had several customers come in with these type of labels on the parcels. I would not remove them
unknownorigin4 m ago

It costs 75 pence to get proof of delivery from memory - just add the cost …It costs 75 pence to get proof of delivery from memory - just add the cost onto your ebay postage. If you want to ensure something is delivered it is ALWAYS worth sending it tracked.This is a non-problem for anyone who follows basic ebay best practice


Proof of posting is free. A signature upon delivery is more than 75p xx
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4TheMenyNotTheFew4 m ago

Your are suggesting they are being tracked when they are not. If I …Your are suggesting they are being tracked when they are not. If I misunderstood and they are tracked I apologise.


But how is that conning anyone? Obviously I wont be advertising it as tracked delivery, and certainly wouldn't be charging for it, what do honest people care if the parcel says tracked on it or not once they've received it?
Don't forget if someone claims not to have received an item and you think they are pulling a fast one you can always block them from buying your items. And you can stop people have a low rating or have been banned from buying two.
What if I buy these stickers and they don't arrive ?
NiceToBeKind2 m ago

But how is that conning anyone? Obviously I wont be advertising it as …But how is that conning anyone? Obviously I wont be advertising it as tracked delivery, and certainly wouldn't be charging for it, what do honest people care if the parcel says tracked on it or not once they've received it?



Well if you can't see it, it's not my job to educate people of social behavour.
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4TheMenyNotTheFew5 m ago

Don't forget if someone claims not to have received an item and you think …Don't forget if someone claims not to have received an item and you think they are pulling a fast one you can always block them from buying your items. And you can stop people have a low rating or have been banned from buying two.


She bought them 2 days apart, I didn't forsee that she was going to try and rip me off. I googled her name and she already has form for fraud funnily enough.
I always ask buyers to go through the resolution centre first and then refund them. This way it's on eBay's system as an issue. If they are repeat offenders and if all sellers do this, it will soon flag up on eBay that this buyer is opening up non received requests too often.

I've had a few buyers suddenly receive their items or never take things any further after asking them to use this channel for refunds.
4TheMenyNotTheFew15 m ago

Don't forget if someone claims not to have received an item and you think …Don't forget if someone claims not to have received an item and you think they are pulling a fast one you can always block them from buying your items. And you can stop people have a low rating or have been banned from buying two.


The problem is there is nothing to stop them opening a new account and buying from that and doing it again. And eBay do nothing to help you as a seller if this happens, trust me I've been through it with people running up auctions, you block them and they just open a new account and do it again. You can have all the settings to try and stop it but since ebay took away blocking people with 0 feedback this has become a problem.
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Blackbird19681 m ago

I always ask buyers to go through the resolution centre first and then …I always ask buyers to go through the resolution centre first and then refund them. This way it's on eBay's system as an issue. If they are repeat offenders and if all sellers do this, it will soon flag up on eBay that this buyer is opening up non received requests too often. I've had a few buyers suddenly receive their items or never take things any further after asking them to use this channel for refunds.


That's a good idea
If you are making money by selling goods, you have to account for some loss of profit.


Supermarkets have to because of 5 finger discounts.
i come across people who say the item didn't arrive too, however i generate personalised labels/stamps directly through royal mail click and drop, each label has its specific ref number which i always quote in the replay to the not arrive item case and that i will require few days to have the item traced by royal mail. 9 out of 10 items are magically delivered the following day.
the fake trace sticker may actually work by dettering fake claims
Thank you OP, I think these are a great idea and even though I hardly had ANY items claimed “not received” over the years I think couple of quid for well over 100 stickers is a worthy purchase.
Ignore the posters suggesting that you are conning people, it’s clear these are just an added visual deterrent.
joolz2427 m ago

Proof of posting is free. A signature upon delivery is more than 75p xx



joolz2427 m ago

Proof of posting is free. A signature upon delivery is more than 75p xx



Proof of delivery was typed. Adding a signature on 2nd class costs £1.11. Just charge your customers tracking or absorb the price as "cost of sale".

This is a non-issue thread.
I send out about 400 things a week from my ebay store, almost all are 2nd class large letters.

Two points

1) On average about 2% 'go missing' in the post. About one in 50! (current number is one in 54)
2) I used to keep records of who bought the items so I could check who has tried to diddle me the most times. I stopped as it was making me racist.
4TheMenyNotTheFew52 m ago

So your idea to stop con artists is to con all your buyers? why don't just …So your idea to stop con artists is to con all your buyers? why don't just use proper tracking. I don't know what you people do but I've sent maybe 20,000 parcels and letters via to eBay buyers and only a small fraction have ever not reached the person. Outside eBay I've sent maybe 100,000 around the world and never had problems like you people have.


Is that all the items you buy off here on deals and resell? 7 deals in 2 yrs and a mega ebayer
When you send an item 1st or 2nd class via Royal Mail you are automatically covered re compensation for loss or damage up to £20, you must keep your PO receipt for proof of posting -claiming for a lost item is pretty swift using online claim procedure. If you send an item recorded delivery, your item is covered up to £50 this item gets signature on receipt of delivery. If you put a postage stamp on your item you are still covered for compensation up to £20 as long as you take it to a post office and obtain proof of posting rather than popping in post box
samhw2142 m ago

What if I buy these stickers and they don't arrive ?


Then you can at least say you tried. You have lost money or good either way but this may have prevented it if the buyer wasn't hell bent on conning you...
abaxas16 m ago

I send out about 400 things a week from my ebay store, almost all are 2nd …I send out about 400 things a week from my ebay store, almost all are 2nd class large letters.Two points1) On average about 2% 'go missing' in the post. About one in 50! (current number is one in 54)2) I used to keep records of who bought the items so I could check who has tried to diddle me the most times. I stopped as it was making me racist.


Go on, spill it out.
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