"Edimax WK-2083 Wireless 150Mbps Router + USB Wireless N Lite Adapter" £5.99 + £4.04 postage (DSL, but can also be used as Access Point, Bridge, Repeater - Not ADSL)  sold by UK Surplus Central Ltd.
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"Edimax WK-2083 Wireless 150Mbps Router + USB Wireless N Lite Adapter" £5.99 + £4.04 postage (DSL, but can also be used as Access Point, Bridge, Repeater - Not ADSL) sold by UK Surplus Central Ltd.

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Found 16th Jan 2013
Product Name:EDIMAX WIRELESS nLITE BROADBAND ROUTER 4 PORT BR-6226N + WIRELESS NIC USB 150MBPS EW-7711UMN RET

Checked the Edimax site - this can also be used as an Access Point, Bridge or repeater is DSL is not required. Looks like the same interface as the Edimax Access Point I have, but its cheaper and has 4 ports.

edimax.co.uk/en/…=18

Per Manual (download)
3-4 Wireless ........................................................................................... 78
3-4-1 Basic Settings ............................................................................... 79
3-4-1-1 AP mode .................................................................................... 80
3-4-1-2 Station-Infrastructure ................................................................. 84
3-4-1-3 AP Bridge-Point to Point ............................................................ 87
3-4-1-4 AP Bridge-Point to Multi-Point ................................................... 90
3-4-1-5 AP Bridge-WDS ......................................................................... 92
3-4-1-6 Universal Repeater .................................................................... 95

Also, I bought 2 (for a bridge) and the postage for 2 devices was only £4.58 making it even cheaper per unit.

To be clear this is NOT an ADSL router.

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As wireless repeaters, that is good value for money. However it'd remain to be seen how reliable they are.
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My edimax repeater (per link below) has been rock solid - No problems. I like TP-Link stuff, but I found their repeater function to be a bit hit and miss.

Consider the price is barely the price of a USB dongle, I can't see why this is getting voted cold.

amazon.co.uk/Edi…-19

It's unjustified, I didn't even realise the adapter was included so extra hot. I go for Draytek routers myself but these are good to have laying around to improve wireless signal throughout a building etc.
I have been using a Edimax BR-6574N router since July 2008 (just looked up the email as to when I bought it). The device has been performing well since. It has even got knocked off a table and hit the floor a few times and has continued to work without issues.

Edimax Support were great too when I first got it and had some queries which I sent via email.

I don't have this item but my experience with Edimax has been fine.
El Thicko here...

I use a Belin router with wifi, so would this be able to sit behind the telly wired into a Playstaion and recorder and get a sinal from the Belkin upstairs?
It'd be ideal if so. Not to mention boosting wifi. to the back door so I can use the phone to liok in on enails and so on when I pop out for a smoke!

Cheers.
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ThunderBolt

El Thicko here...I use a Belin router with wifi, so would this be able to … El Thicko here...I use a Belin router with wifi, so would this be able to sit behind the telly wired into a Playstaion and recorder and get a sinal from the Belkin upstairs? It'd be ideal if so. Not to mention boosting wifi. to the back door so I can use the phone to liok in on enails and so on when I pop out for a smoke!Cheers.



Not really clear on what your trying to achieve - if it to extend the range of the Belkin, then yes it will work fine in Repeater mode. The signal must be able to reach the Edimax for it to Boost the range. if not use Powerline adapters to use the internal wiring of your home as a network line.


Repeater Function:
This acts as a standalone box and takes the signal from the Belkin and 'repeats' it. Its for boosting range by acting as a 2nd transmitter. It works fine, unless its thick walls that are killing the signal - the repeater needs to 'see' your Belkin in order ro repeat the signal (in which case you would use Powerline adapters). Edimax repeaters create a separate SSID (network name) - you simply would link the Playstation to this instead.

You would ideally put a repeater around 1/2 between the Source Router (Belkin) and the destination (Playstation 3) unless you wanted to use the wired ports, or at the edge of the item that is blocking the signal to try and transmit round it.


Access Point:
This is for were you have a wired connection and you wish to make it Wireless. Eg. powerline adapters or routers that do not have wifi.


Bridge:
This is more of a specific design. Basically if you have 2 networks (say garage and house) and you want to join these 2 together - you can put a Wireless Bridge at each end. The boxes act as a way to join the 2 networks without cabling. In this mode, the Bridges will not speak to normal wireless devices, there only function is to speak to each other. The advantage over a normal repeater is speed (repeaters demodulate - this lowers the speed a little) and security (since they only speak to each other).

I
Gordon Bell

Access Point:This is for were you have a wired connection and you wish to … Access Point:This is for were you have a wired connection and you wish to make it Wireless. Eg. powerline adapters or routers that do not have wifi.



So for ensuring wireless coverage over the house I could have a router downstairs and this one set up as an access point upstairs connected to the downstairs router via either a powerline adaptor or a long network cable with the upstairs Edimax router having a different SSID (and channel number)? Thanks
Edited by: "StockportGerbil" 16th Jan 2013
On the repeater mode as long as it can see the signal from a wireless router it will just repeat it under the same password and router SSID of the original router?
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StockportGerbil

So for ensuring wireless coverage over the house I could have a router … So for ensuring wireless coverage over the house I could have a router downstairs and this one set up as an access point upstairs connected to the downstairs router via either a powerline adaptor or a long network cable with the upstairs Edimax router having a different SSID (and channel number)? Thanks



Yes thats one way, or you could ignore the cabling (powerline or long cable) and simply set this up as a repeater - as long as the wireless signal from the downstairs router can reach the edimax. The repeater will speak to the downstairs router (via wireless) on 'behalf' of any devices upstairs and pass on data. Any devices upstairs will link to the Edimax, but will 'act' like they are connected directly to the downstair router. There is a little speed loss in using a repeater, but not much.

Can a repeater repeat a repeater as if I buy 2 extend coverage?
nice
ordered 2 as well
will sell the usb dongles and one router on ebay and will probably get my £16 back lol
I use one of these to connect my sky box, blu ray player and tv for on demand stuff its also handy for boosting wifi coverage too.
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RyanC

Can a repeater repeat a repeater as if I buy 2 extend coverage?



If you are referring to Router to Repeater 1 to repeater 2 .. etc...

Yes, but you need to watch. TPLink advises max of 3 in its instructions. When I contacted Edimax, they said there no problem (their customer service is leagues ahead of TPlink, who ignore emails completely).

The problem is that Repeaters HAVE to use the channel of the original router (unlike an Access Point) - which starts to saturate the frequency and will cause additional interference for the equipment to deal with.

The other problem is that in 'Repeater' mode, the device is effectively doing 2 things:
It acts as a type of Bridge to the original router, and then it turns its attention to acting like a Access point for the devices that want to link to it. This means it is alternating functions very quickly.

As you add more Repeaters the lag and data slow down caused by alternating these dual functions multiplies with each additional Repeater that is 'daisy chained'. I managed to daisy chain 3 TPLink access points, but I could tell the difference.

This is because the 2nd Repeater is acting as a 'Bridge' to the first 'repeater' - but remember the first repeater has already suffered data throughput slowdown due to being forced to act in dual function. The 2nd Repeater is now linking to this degraded throughput and will now also degrade by the 2nd Repeater having also to act alternating functions - as you go down the chain the speed degradation will increase.

You can also have the router speak directly to different repeaters ie Router to Repeater 1 also Router to Repeater 2 (ie you dont link the 2 repeaters together, instead they both speak directly to the router)


Gordon Bell

If you are referring to Router to Repeater 1 to repeater 2 .. etc...Yes, … If you are referring to Router to Repeater 1 to repeater 2 .. etc...Yes, but you need to watch. TPLink advises max of 3 in its instructions. When I contacted Edimax, they said there no problem (their customer service is leagues ahead of TPlink, who ignore emails completely).The problem is that Repeaters HAVE to use the channel of the original router (unlike an Access Point) - which starts to saturate the frequency and will cause additional interference for the equipment to deal with.The other problem is that in 'Repeater' mode, the device is effectively doing 2 things:It acts as a type of Bridge to the original router, and then it turns its attention to acting like a Access point for the devices that want to link to it. This means it is alternating functions very quickly.As you add more Repeaters the lag and data slow down caused by alternating these dual functions multiplies with each additional Repeater that is 'daisy chained'. I managed to daisy chain 2 TPLink access points, but I could tell the difference. This is because the 2nd Repeater is acting as a 'Bridge' to the first 'repeater' - but remember the first repeater has already suffered data throughput slowdown due to being forced to act in dual function. The 2nd Repeater is now linking to this degraded throughput and will now also degrade by the 2nd Repeater having also to act alternating functions - as you go down the chain the speed degradation will increase.You can also have the router speak directly to different repeaters ie Router to Repeater 1 also Router to Repeater 2 (ie you dont link the 2 repeaters together, instead they both speak directly to the router)



So will an access point widen your router range a bit like a repeater?
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RyanC

So will an access point widen your router range a bit like a repeater?



Yes, but the set up is different.

A Repeater is a standalone unit, it needs no cables running to the router - just a wireless signal. This is a cheap way to extend range.

An Access Point needs a WIRED connection to the original router. This can be achieved by Powerline adapters or a network cable. Its a more expensive option as more kit is needed. Due to being connected by a cable, the Access Point does not have to use the same channel as the Router (as its communicating via cable). It also frees up the wireless traffic as it only has to contend with devices wanting to link to it, communication to the router is via the cable. This prevents the data throughput problems of a Repeater.

example. The router connects to a powerline adapter downstairs. A 2nd powerline adapter is fitted upstairs (assuming they can link). The Edimax could connect to this 2nd Powerline adapter as an Access Point. This turns he Powerline adapter into a wireless receiver and extends the range that way.

(There is nothing wrong with linking a repeater to an Access point to extend range further without further cabling)


I dont want to sound like a repeater is naff, its not. Most people will not notice a single Repeater in the chain. The speed issue only comes from 'daisy chaining' a lot of units together. The frequency 'overlap' can also by minimised by making sure the units are quite far apart. I was just warning you that the data throughput will reduce as you go down the chain of repeaters.





Will this work in a Sony tv , instead of a Sony dongle ?
Gordon Bell

Yes, but the set up is different. A Repeater is a standalone unit, it … Yes, but the set up is different. A Repeater is a standalone unit, it needs no cables running to the router - just a wireless signal. This is a cheap way to extend range.An Access Point needs a WIRED connection to the original router. This can be achieved by Powerline adapters or a network cable. Its a more expensive option as more kit is needed. Due to being connected by a cable, the Access Point does not have to use the same channel as the Router (as its communicating via cable). It also frees up the wireless traffic as it only has to contend with devices wanting to link to it, communication to the router is via the cable. This prevents the data throughput problems of a Repeater.example. The router connects to a powerline adapter downstairs. A 2nd powerline adapter is fitted upstairs (assuming they can link). The Edimax could connect to this 2nd Powerline adapter as an Access Point. This turns he Powerline adapter into a wireless receiver and extends he range that way.(There is nothing wrong with linking a repeater to an Access point to extend range further without further cabling)



Many thanks i get it now :-) good job my whole house is cat6 hardwired to my router its just the wireless its lacking now but 2 access points will solve this im guessing :-) many thanks will play with these when they come..
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Some FAQ that will answer a lot of queries. They are for the Edimax Access Point, but having looked at the manual the interface looks identical.

edimax.co.uk/en/…d=5

Also, I would recommending updating Edimax Firmwares. I also prefer logging into the device itself - using the CD wizard can be a little limiting and frustrating when it doesnt work.

Gordon Bell

Some FAQ that will answer a lot of queries. They are for the Edimax … Some FAQ that will answer a lot of queries. They are for the Edimax Access Point, but having looked at the manual the interface looks identical.http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_detail.php?pd_id=242&pl1_id=1&pl2_id=5Also, I would recommending updating Edimax Firmwares. I also prefer logging into the device itself - using the CD wizard can be a little limiting and frustrating when it doesnt work.



So will the updates from that link work to update this product?
I just want to create a wireless connection to a tablet. What do I do with the USB dongle? Sorry for being thick but I have never had one before.
Original Poster
RyanC

So will the updates from that link work to update this product?



No, use link in main title:
edimax.co.uk/en/…d=3

Click on Firmware at bottom of page
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allbee

I just want to create a wireless connection to a tablet. What do I do … I just want to create a wireless connection to a tablet. What do I do with the USB dongle? Sorry for being thick but I have never had one before.



You need to be a little more specific. The tablet is already likely to have Wireless. The dongle is designed to add wireless to a PC computer, not a tablet. It is unlikely to be needed or usable on a tablet.

Have some more heat :-D
Purchased, Thanks!!
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Just a bit of information:

If you intend to use this as an Access Point, Repeater, Bridge - Make sure the DHCP Server option is DISABLED.

The interface may already automatically do this when you select AP or Repeater in the Wizard/interface - I'm not sure (only ordered today).

On a dedicated Access Point this setting would be disabled by default, but this is a Router that is being used as an Access Point - it may be enabled by default (It will be under LAN settings in the menu).

DHCP is the function that assigns each computer on the network, it's IP number. When using it as a Repeater or Access Point you want your Main Router to assign the IP number, not the Access Point/Repeater.







You do have to disable DHCP on these edimax routers if used as a repeater, it doesn’t do it automatically.
can this be used to connect a remote xbox360hard wired to it then , providing the wireless link to existing wireless modem??
or does it have to be a specific DD-wrt enabled device for that?

i.e. can this be updated with DD-WRT?

thanks..

Can i have this in a room upstairs and run an ethernet cable from it to my xbox for access?
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[quote=IWANTBLUE]can this be used to connect a remote xbox360hard wired to it then , providing the wireless link to existing wireless modem??
or does it have to be a specific DD-wrt enabled device for that?

i.e. can this be updated with DD-WRT?

I'm not sure what you mean. If you are trying to link a Wired Xbox (the older model with no wireless, and the rip off pricey wireless dongle) to a Wireless Router - I think thats what the Station-Infrastructure mode is for. The description in the 6226N manual is awful, but this is the description of the same mode in the EW-7206APg manual:

3.2.2 Wireless Setting
This Access Point supports AP, Station, Bridge, WDS and Universal Repeater modes. “AP Mode” provides
pure access point function. The simplest way to build up a wireless LAN is to use “AP Mode”. “Station Mode”
is used to let a network device with only wired Ethernet function to have wireless LAN communication
capability
. It provides both Ad Hoc and Infrastructure modes for the “Station Mode”. With “Station-Ad Hoc
mode”, it can let your network device join a wireless LAN with peer-to-peer communication. With “Station-
Infrastructure mode”, it can let your network device join a wireless LAN through an access point
. “.....

I did try this mode with a Ethernet printer to turn it wireless as a test years ago (on my 7206APg Access Point) and it did work (although was a little bit of trial and error to get it working - I think it was the MAC Address option on the Infrastructure mode that was the trick). Basically I plugged a network cable between printer to Edimax. The printer already had a static IP on the network. It could then link wirelessly to the main router (ie I could printer wirelessly from my computer). However, I was just tinkering with it and never left in this format, so I can't say how reliable it was. An Xbox sends a lot more data and I'm not sure how much control over the IP number you have, so I'm not 100% sure.


The description of this mode in the 6226 manual is:
b. Station-Infrastructure: This broadband router acts as both wireless
communication client and server - connects to another wireless access
point as client, and serves other wireless clients as server.


Someone else may be clued up better on this mode and whether an Xbox will work.

Ditto Ferrariice query. In 'theory' it should work in this mode, but I've never tried it.






Gordon Bell

[quote=IWANTBLUE]can this be used to connect a remote xbox360hard wired … [quote=IWANTBLUE]can this be used to connect a remote xbox360hard wired to it then , providing the wireless link to existing wireless modem??or does it have to be a specific DD-wrt enabled device for that?i.e. can this be updated with DD-WRT?I'm not sure what you mean. If you are trying to link a Wired Xbox (the older model with no wireless, and the rip off pricey wireless dongle) to a Wireless Router - I think thats what the Station-Infrastructure mode is for. The description in the 6226N manual is awful, but this is the description of the same mode in the EW-7206APg manual:3.2.2 Wireless SettingThis Access Point supports AP, Station, Bridge, WDS and Universal Repeater modes. “AP Mode” providespure access point function. The simplest way to build up a wireless LAN is to use “AP Mode”. “Station Mode”is used to let a network device with only wired Ethernet function to have wireless LAN communicationcapability. It provides both Ad Hoc and Infrastructure modes for the “Station Mode”. With “Station-Ad Hocmode”, it can let your network device join a wireless LAN with peer-to-peer communication. With “Station-Infrastructure mode”, it can let your network device join a wireless LAN through an access point. “.....I did try this mode with a Ethernet printer to turn it wireless as a test years ago (on my 7206APg Access Point) and it did work (although was a little bit of trial and error to get it working - I think it was the MAC Address option on the Infrastructure mode that was the trick). Basically I plugged a network cable between printer to Edimax. The printer already had a static IP on the network. It could then link wirelessly to the main router (ie I could printer wirelessly from my computer). However, I was just tinkering with it and never left in this format, so I can't say how reliable it was. An Xbox sends a lot more data and I'm not sure how much control over the IP number you have, so I'm not 100% sure.The description of this mode in the 6226 manual is:b. Station-Infrastructure: This broadband router acts as both wirelesscommunication client and server - connects to another wireless accesspoint as client, and serves other wireless clients as server.Someone else may be clued up better on this mode and whether an Xbox will work.Ditto Ferrariice query. In 'theory' it should work in this mode, but I've never tried it.



No need for technical support we have you
I just bought this router:
hotukdeals.com/dea…e=2

I'm now in the process of returning it as it will disconnect my internet connection (even with hardly any traffic going through it).

I notice latency shoots up from my pc to the router (local lan) and then the internet will stop working, this happens a few times in an hour and lasts about 15 seconds.

So good luck to anyone purchasing any of their other products.
Thanks op. it turned up this morning.

took 10 minutes to set up.

plugged it into the homeplug upstairs where the sky router couldn't reach and now have fast wifi with a strong signal. bargain.
Really? Took me ruddy ages today, and still can't get it set up to work as it should. Any attempt to make it work hidden as a repeater just kills it, had to settle for it being a separate wifi signal I can switch to...
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Jakaru

Really? Took me ruddy ages today, and still can't get it set up to work … Really? Took me ruddy ages today, and still can't get it set up to work as it should. Any attempt to make it work hidden as a repeater just kills it, had to settle for it being a separate wifi signal I can switch to...



As was mentioned in an early post, Edimax equipment creates a separate SSID when used as a repeater - As far as i can tell you can't have it hidden (which TPlink stuff does). Drop the support an email, but sure its not supported. I prefer visible anyway, they're easier to monitor. It is a pain if your walking around though, as you will have to manually swap network.

Old post:
Repeater Function:
....This acts as a standalone box and takes the signal from the Belkin and 'repeats' it. Its for boosting range by acting as a 2nd transmitter. It works fine, unless its thick walls that are killing the signal - the repeater needs to 'see' your Belkin in order ro repeat the signal (in which case you would use Powerline adapters). Edimax repeaters create a separate SSID (network name) - you simply would link the Playstation to this instead - you simply would link the....



By the way, despite being 'expired', there are 6 more in stock at time of this posting.









Thanks for your efforts Gordon, even if not 100& sure

I think it will do it as it is on the list I was refferring to...

It's for a Buddy or I would have pulled the trigger already, thanks for your input
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Additional stock didn't last long. OOS again.
Ran out of stocks? I can't seem to find it anymore, pretty amazing deal. Too bad I was too late.
I did have it working without the ssid (as I tried various guides to setting this model up online and there are some that state you can get the easier repeater set up where you can just have your main ssid shown and router works hidden) but it certainly didn't like doing it. It seemed awfully unpredictable regardless of settings, working initially but only briefly.

What I have now is it plugged into the powerline (gave up on it just using the wifi to repeat) and it sends that signal out on its own ssid. I'm pretty sure that isn't really 'repeating' though in the sense that its meant... But it does work, at the moment at least!

It does too seem to be stronger than my current box, so it might be worth promoting it to the main one, might not need a repeater then!
Original Poster
Jakaru

I did have it working without the ssid (as I tried various guides to … I did have it working without the ssid (as I tried various guides to setting this model up online and there are some that state you can get the easier repeater set up where you can just have your main ssid shown and router works hidden) but it certainly didn't like doing it. It seemed awfully unpredictable regardless of settings, working initially but only briefly.What I have now is it plugged into the powerline (gave up on it just using the wifi to repeat) and it sends that signal out on its own ssid. I'm pretty sure that isn't really 'repeating' though in the sense that its meant... But it does work, at the moment at least!It does too seem to be stronger than my current box, so it might be worth promoting it to the main one, might not need a repeater then!



If using powerline, I assume you have it set up as an Access Point, not Repeater (better option if you have the extra kit). Sounds like you gave the hidden option a good try! I asked the support about it (it was different wireless device) a while back and was told separate SSID was the only option. Sounds like some online helpers have managed to prove them (and me) wrong. If you do try again and get it to work, let us know.
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IWANTBLUE

Thanks for your efforts Gordon, even if not 100& sure :)I think it will … Thanks for your efforts Gordon, even if not 100& sure :)I think it will do it as it is on the list I was refferring to...It's for a Buddy or I would have pulled the trigger already, thanks for your input



If you get it to work, turning an older Xbox to work wireless without the expensive dongle (assuming thats what you were referreing too), let me know.
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