Electric moka pot, £25 delivered from Germany, five star reviews on Amazon
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Electric moka pot, £25 delivered from Germany, five star reviews on Amazon

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Found 9th Jan 2014
This might not excite everyone else as much as it does me, but I have had my eye one one of these for some time. It works just like a standard moka pot (a stove-top espresso maker) but it's electric, meaning if you plug it into a timer you should be able to get it to make your morning coffee for you while you wake up.

These are a bit hard to find in the UK, and ones with this capacity are priced unreasonably around the £70 mark, so this looks like a fantastic deal with a minimal delivery cost from Germany. For me, it was even worth temporarily lifting my boycott of the grasping Amazon tax avoiders!

From Google Translate:
Pamper yourself in between times a wonderfully aromatic espresso! With the "coffeemaxx" electric espresso maker that's almost at your fingertips! Simply fill as usual with water and espresso powder, screw, put on the electric base and switch on. Circuit with current-intensive espresso cooking on the hot stove! After a short time the invigorating specialty coffee bubbling in the pot that you can use to pour wirelessly. Aromatic enjoyment as in Italy!

• For up to 6 cups (300ml) aromatic espresso
• Wireless operator comfort, 360 ° rotatable
• Power-saving than traditional espresso maker for the stove
• Cool-touch handle - without risk of burning
• with safety valve
• Power: max. 480 Watt
• Dimensions: 20.7 x 13.5 x 25 cm
- louiselouise

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funny, because i too, detest amazon and would rather buy elsewhere if poss, but then i think their tax revenues would only go on the great unwashed anyway so, sod it... at least i'm then getting a tax break of my own... still feel guilty, though, like a true champagne socialist should...

okay, pomagne...

Original Poster

Just 21° so far? Like pearls before swine.

it looks like a boot!

hot anyway

Thank you, Dave, for finding this one. Even better with free delivery in mainland Europe ...

Good deal, we're all as selective as we want to be but when it comes down to it, a deal is a deal lol....

I'm about to ask a really stupid question, but how does an espresso maker differ from a standard coffee machine? I *know* the difference between espresso and normal coffee, I'd just like to know how these make the same coffee that much stronger.

I like this.................heat added

skwintie

it looks like a boot!



Santa's boot...likely why it's on cheap.

davesilverman

Just 21° so far? Like pearls before swine.



Wow! Insulting the site membership probably isn't the best tactic. Also considering you posted it after midnight, it's doing fine!

terrythomas

I'm about to ask a really stupid question, but how does an espresso maker … I'm about to ask a really stupid question, but how does an espresso maker differ from a standard coffee machine? I *know* the difference between espresso and normal coffee, I'd just like to know how these make the same coffee that much stronger.



Well if you mean a machine where the hot water drips through the coffee in a filter into a jug underneath, that is a slow process of water passing through ground coffee, using gravity, collecting the coffee flavour as it goes. You have a lot more water to coffee ratio there, so it's weaker by the drip process and the quantity of water used. With an espresso maker, you have a much smaller quantity of water forced through the ground coffee at high pressure, so taking up a much stronger flavour of the coffee. That makes a much stronger smaller drink.

I think

I had a look for something like this a while ago and, like the OP couldn't find anything cheaper than £70. So heat from me.

Thanks OP!

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therealslimkaty

Wow! Insulting the site membership probably isn't the best tactic. Also … Wow! Insulting the site membership probably isn't the best tactic. Also considering you posted it after midnight, it's doing fine!



I was only kidding

davesilverman

For me, it was even worth temporarily lifting my boycott of the grasping … For me, it was even worth temporarily lifting my boycott of the grasping Amazon tax avoiders!



Wow so your principles are easily swayed by a cheap coffee pot, think of all the bargains you could have compromised yourself with during 2013, you must be well miffed now ......:p
Edited by: "gazw" 9th Jan 2014

terrythomas

I'm about to ask a really stupid question, but how does an espresso maker … I'm about to ask a really stupid question, but how does an espresso maker differ from a standard coffee machine? I *know* the difference between espresso and normal coffee, I'd just like to know how these make the same coffee that much stronger.



Espresso makers use pressurised steam to force the oils out of the coffee.

Not sure I like the slight-snottiness from the OP, but I will focus on the deal instead (as I should).

Is this a machine that does one cup of espresso at a time? It looks quite small. I was thinking of this as a gift for my coffee-mad boyf. I have a cheap bean-to-cup where I stay but he only has a humble cafetiere.

Google Translate is my friend. translate.google.com/tra…-21

coffeemaxx Electric Espresso Maker
- For up to 6 cups (300ml) aromatic espresso
- Power-saving than traditional espresso maker for the stove
- Cool touch handle - without risk of burning
- Max. 480 Watt

Pamper yourself in between times a wonderfully aromatic espresso! With the "coffeemaxx" electric espresso maker that's almost at your fingertips! Simply fill as usual with water and espresso powder, screw, put on the electric base and switch on. Circuit with current-intensive espresso cooking on the hot stove! After a short time the invigorating specialty coffee bubbling in the pot that you can use to pour wirelessly. Aromatic enjoyment as in Italy!

• For up to 6 cups (300ml) aromatic espresso
• Wireless operator comfort, 360 ° rotatable
• Power-saving than traditional espresso maker for the stove
• Cool-touch handle - without risk of burning
• with safety valve
• Power: max. 480 Watt
• Dimensions: 20.7 x 13.5 x 25 cm

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louiselouise

Not sure I like the slight-snottiness from the OP, but I will focus on … Not sure I like the slight-snottiness from the OP, but I will focus on the deal instead (as I should).Is this a machine that does one cup of espresso at a time? It looks quite small. I was thinking of this as a gift for my coffee-mad boyf. I have a cheap bean-to-cup where I stay but he only has a humble cafetiere.



It makes one mug of coffee slightly weaker than espresso but much stronger than cafetiere coffee. Due to its strength you could have small espresso-like shots or water it down if you want to get more than one cup out of it.

I happen to like the slight snottiness of the OP.

Is it better to pay in EUR or with Amazon Currency Converter? (Being new to foreign Amazon websites)

(Edit: Used the Converter. Says it'll be with me 14-15 January). Danke
Edited by: "louiselouise" 9th Jan 2014

Is the 110v/240v difference an issue?

I on the other hand really don't agree with the snottiness. Why would a inherently non-UK company pay UK-company taxes it's not obliged to pay? The company sells goods in Spain, Italy, France, Germany and UK, and pays corporate taxes where the Amazon group group is located in Europe. Why should this one country be UK in particular, why not Germany, France..? and I really hope no one genuinely expect Amazon.de to pay their corporate taxes to the UK..?

I think Luxembourg is perfectly fine. The item is hot though. Heat!

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wibin

I on the other hand really don't agree with the snottiness. Why would a … I on the other hand really don't agree with the snottiness. Why would a inherently non-UK company pay UK-company taxes it's not obliged to pay? The company sells goods in Spain, Italy, France, Germany and UK, and pays corporate taxes where the Amazon group group is located in Europe. Why should this one country be UK in particular, why not Germany, France..? and I really hope no one genuinely expect Amazon.de to pay their corporate taxes to the UK..?I think Luxembourg is perfectly fine. The item is hot though. Heat!



I think Amazon.de should pay their taxes in Germany. Their HQ is only located in Luxembourg because it is a tax haven. They base most of their actual operations elsewhere, meaning they use British, German, French (etc.) roads and other infrastructure, and benefit from our taxpayer funded health and education systems, while contributing very little to their cost. This also means that retailers paying full corporation tax in the country where they operate are driven out of business. I bought this coffee maker, and posted the deal, because it's two thirds cheaper than anywhere else. That is an exceptional case, and worth the trade off of supporting Amazon. 99% of the time, Amazon's prices are broadly similar to other websites, and in those cases I prefer to shop elsewhere.

I wonder if I'm doing something wrong. I have tried to order to be delivered to either my work or my home address (both normal addresses in Bristol) but each time I select my address I am then told:

"Unfortunately this item can not be shipped to the desired place."

Any ideas why this is happening - have others managed to order?

Thanks!

Original Poster

elziko

I wonder if I'm doing something wrong. I have tried to order to be … I wonder if I'm doing something wrong. I have tried to order to be delivered to either my work or my home address (both normal addresses in Bristol) but each time I select my address I am then told:"Unfortunately this item can not be shipped to the desired place."Any ideas why this is happening - have others managed to order?Thanks!



I think Amazon has now sold out and is offering you the coffee maker from a private seller that doesn't ship outside Germany. If you click on the bit that says "7 new from EUR 25.98" you can see the list of sellers, and order it direct from Amazon, although they won't dispatch it until they have new stock.

After all that complaining it looks like I have helped Amazon make a bundle!
Edited by: "davesilverman" 9th Jan 2014

davesilverman

I think Amazon has now sold out and is offering you the coffee maker from … I think Amazon has now sold out and is offering you the coffee maker from a private seller that doesn't ship outside Germany. If you click on the bit that says "7 new from EUR 25.98" you can see the list of sellers, and order it direct from Amazon, although they won't dispatch it until they have new stock.



Thanks - I have ordered and I'll see if and when I get this!

Can anyone confirm it works with 240V without blowing up?

Mark300ZX

Can anyone confirm it works with 240V without blowing up?



I expect so because in the UK the nominal mains voltage is 230V anyway.

In 1995 mains voltages were harmonised across Europe at 230V with a tolerance of +10% to -6%s so anything sold in one European country should work fine in any other.

It's not letting me buy it from Amazon, it says it undeliverable to my location UK

trying2013

It's not letting me buy it from Amazon, it says it undeliverable to my … It's not letting me buy it from Amazon, it says it undeliverable to my location UK



See 4 posts above yours.
Edited by: "elziko" 9th Jan 2014

terrythomas

I'm about to ask a really stupid question, but how does an espresso maker … I'm about to ask a really stupid question, but how does an espresso maker differ from a standard coffee machine? I *know* the difference between espresso and normal coffee, I'd just like to know how these make the same coffee that much stronger.

yeh i wanna know too....

davesilverman

I think Amazon.de should pay their taxes in Germany. Their HQ is only … I think Amazon.de should pay their taxes in Germany. Their HQ is only located in Luxembourg because it is a tax haven. They base most of their actual operations elsewhere, meaning they use British, German, French (etc.) roads and other infrastructure, and benefit from our taxpayer funded health and education systems, while contributing very little to their cost. This also means that retailers paying full corporation tax in the country where they operate are driven out of business. I bought this coffee maker, and posted the deal, because it's two thirds cheaper than anywhere else. That is an exceptional case, and worth the trade off of supporting Amazon. 99% of the time, Amazon's prices are broadly similar to other websites, and in those cases I prefer to shop elsewhere.



I live in Finland so I'm not too convinced why Amazon paying taxes to UK, Germany or Luxembourg should make any logical difference, least due to the website ending in .co.uk or .de. A lot of the (physical) retail shops in the Baltics pay their corporate taxes to Finland or Sweden, and there's a huge amount of cross-boundary transfers of profits between the Nordic countries. Any boycott would be insane as generally everyone profits. Remember, mercantilism didn't work out too well. The existence of tax havens is a political, not a legal nor an economical question, but it is being worked on.

Retail has very thin profit margins, perhaps you should look into where manufactures of the products you buy pay their taxes to.

Original Poster

wibin

I live in Finland so I'm not too convinced why Amazon paying taxes to UK, … I live in Finland so I'm not too convinced why Amazon paying taxes to UK, Germany or Luxembourg should make any logical difference, least due to the website ending in .co.uk or .de. A lot of the (physical) retail shops in the Baltics pay their corporate taxes to Finland or Sweden, and there's a huge amount of cross-boundary transfers of profits between the Nordic countries. Any boycott would be insane as generally everyone profits. Remember, mercantilism didn't work out too well. The existence of tax havens is a political, not a legal nor an economical question, but it is being worked on. Retail has very thin profit margins, perhaps you should look into where manufactures of the products you buy pay their taxes to.



Your comments would make sense if the complaint was that Amazon ought to pay higher import duties or something. That's not the complaint. The complaint is that they should be paying proper corporation tax instead of using a tax haven. This in no way entails increasing barriers to trade between countries, nor does it threaten to wipe out Amazon's profit margins, considering it is a tax on overall profit not individual sales.

Got an email earlier today from Amazon.de saying the Moka Pot will be with me on the 15th.

Delivered today (remote location, so I thought it may take a little longer)! Thanks again.

There's a review that says you can use coffee pads as a stop-gap, though of course coffee purists will prefer having beans and their own burr grinder.

translate.google.com/tra…-21

I've never used an electric moka pot, but for the stove top ones I always grind half way between espresso and drip coarseness. You probably want it to feel a bit like regular table salt for best results (although check what the filter is like on these!).

Also - make sure you level them off - if you heap the coffee, or compress it, you will probably find it tastes burnt or bitter. The pressure inside will tamp the coffee down so just add it loosely!

Moka coffee is great as it is (usually about the same quantity as a double espresso is good for me). If you don't like really strong coffees, you can always add hot water to make a regular cup with a difference, or at a tiny dribble of milk or single cream :).

Did anyone get this?
Any quick reviews from you guys?( I know there are plenty to translate in amazon)

Looks good!

phil001

Did anyone get this?Any quick reviews from you guys?( I know there are … Did anyone get this?Any quick reviews from you guys?( I know there are plenty to translate in amazon)Looks good!



I got one and use it on a timer to be woken up with coffee in the morning.Two things worth mentioning: it won't automatically switch off once the coffee has finished brewing (by design) and the top half is almost entirely plastic.
Edited by: "elziko" 27th Jan 2014

elziko

I got one and use it on a timer to be woken up with coffee in the … I got one and use it on a timer to be woken up with coffee in the morning.Two things worth mentioning: it won't automatically switch off once the coffee has finished brewing (by design) and the top half is almost entirely plastic.



Thanks for the info.
Shame it doesn't cut off when the water has gone
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