Electric vehicle charging socket installed at your house for free.
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Electric vehicle charging socket installed at your house for free.

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Found 5th Feb 2014
You'll need a private driveway, but to anyone planning to buy an EV in the future, or possibly being visited by someone who has one, or perhaps just one day selling your home to someone who might have one, now's the time to take advantage of grant assistance for a free installation.

I ordered out of necessity, and installation went without a hitch.

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Is the charger (plug) going to be uniform throughout all manufacturers?

Original Poster

I think there's a standard. EVSE I think it's called.

I just made sure mine fitted a Nissan Leaf.

Got mine fitted last week after previous post on here,
Took approx 3 hours to fit but very professional job done
(didn't have to do anything inside house as he connected it up to the outside electric box).

All I need is for electric cars to become more affordable (if ever) but at least it cost nothing to get this.

Original Poster

I mentioned my install in the Nissan Leaf contract hire thread. Was that where you saw the previous post?

Apologies if I've reposted something that's had its own discussion before.

I truly hate the concept of battery vehicles. It is going to slow down progress. Where is our hydrogen cars?

No it was posted a few months ago, It took them a while to get in touch with me so no worries about posting again.
I think it's a great scheme that people on here can make the most of

Are there actually any good deals on getting an EV? I know Renault Zoe sales have tanked this year and the car will be worthless as the battery is only available on a lease. But any other suggestions?

shadowdogg

I truly hate the concept of battery vehicles. It is going to slow down … I truly hate the concept of battery vehicles. It is going to slow down progress. Where is our hydrogen cars?

I tend to agree with you. We're all in a mind set of being able to take our car and top it up with fuel if we want/need to go somewhere. You can't do that with Electric, you have to wait hours for a 'refuel'. Hydrogen may be the way forward BUT... there are some massive obstacles to overcome if we are ever going to get anywhere with it (excuse the pun). Producing is the first obstacle. It is (currently), quite expensive to produce and if we're gong to use it to power vehicles, we're going to have to up that production massively. Which brings us to the problem of producing it in a way that is environmentally friendly. There's no point in producing hydrogen as a fuel for vehicles if the production is as polluting as the fossil fuels. And again, we're STILL relying on those fossil fuels to produce hydrogen! Next up is infrastructure. The costs of setting up a national network of hydrogen fueling stations would be colossal. Your local petrol station has electric on the site, setting up electric top-up/refueling bays wouldn't be a huge cost, having a whole new tanking/storage system to hold Hydrogen will be a huge cost. I could go on but I doubt many will have read this far anyway. Suffice to say, Hydrogen, in my opinion, COULD BE the fuel of the future but at this point in time, we're miles away from it becoming any sort of reality.


Edited by: "Blasphemous" 5th Feb 2014

What's this sending information to the government via GPRS thingy?

My garage has no power at all, and no easy way to route power to it.

Still worth me applying?

If you don't have power to the outside if your house expect a hefty 'non standard' bill. I was quoted £1000 off British gas for my 'free' charger. And cars aren't standard. The nissan leaf has a type 1 connector. The Renault Zoe has a type 2 connector.

Blasphemous

I tend to agree with you. We're all in a mind set of being able to take … I tend to agree with you. We're all in a mind set of being able to take our car and top it up with fuel if we want/need to go somewhere. You can't do that with Electric, you have to wait hours for a 'refuel'. Hydrogen may be the way forward BUT... there are some massive obstacles to overcome if we are ever going to get anywhere with it (excuse the pun). Producing is the first obstacle. It is (currently), quite expensive to produce and if we're gong to use it to power vehicles, we're going to have to up that production massively. Which brings us to the problem of producing it in a way that is environmentally friendly. There's no point in producing hydrogen as a fuel for vehicles if the production is as polluting as the fossil fuels. And again, we're STILL relying on those fossil fuels to produce hydrogen! Next up is infrastructure. The costs of setting up a national network of hydrogen fueling stations would be colossal. Your local petrol station has electric on the site, setting up electric top-up/refueling bays wouldn't be a huge cost, having a whole new tanking/storage system to hold Hydrogen will be a huge cost. I could go on but I doubt many will have read this far anyway. Suffice to say, Hydrogen, in my opinion, COULD BE the fuel of the future but at this point in time, we're miles away from it becoming any sort of reality.



re hydrogen - true, plus there is the issue of the unfair bad rep re safety. For me its more about safety when in a crash scenario, but then its no worse or probably better than petrol

manufacturers are getter closer to producing proper usuable electric cars like the new bmw's and audi etrons, etc and not forgetting the prius - but id like to see more than 50 miles on an electric run. Plus its possible to get an electric point installed and linked to solar/wind but theres a cost to that

shadowdogg

I truly hate the concept of battery vehicles. It is going to slow down … I truly hate the concept of battery vehicles. It is going to slow down progress. Where is our hydrogen cars?



its not a perfect solution:
whats going to happen to all those depleted batteries
how long do they last - 5 years?
huge battery replacement cost eg £5K+, hence battery leasing
car cost still too high

advantage is that building the infrastructure is viable as unlike hydrogen, electricity is in most places

royals

unlike hydrogen, electricity is in most places



Technically, hydrogen is available in most places, just not in it's elemental form

But I agree with your points!

And this is a fantastic deal, would definitely get a Nissan Leaf from the deal that was posted a few days ago

BananaBread

Technically, hydrogen is available in most places, just not in it's … Technically, hydrogen is available in most places, just not in it's elemental form ;)But I agree with your points!And this is a fantastic deal, would definitely get a Nissan Leaf from the deal that was posted a few days ago



Yep, most abundant element in the universe. Oh the irony of it all.


royals

its not a perfect solution:whats going to happen to all those depleted … its not a perfect solution:whats going to happen to all those depleted batterieshow long do they last - 5 years?huge battery replacement cost eg £5K+, hence battery leasingcar cost still too highadvantage is that building the infrastructure is viable as unlike hydrogen, electricity is in most places



Exactly, we all know batteries don't like being charged quickly. Them 1hr charges (which is still pretty slow) will just kill the endurance of the battery. My charger takes a long enough time with AA batteries to refreshen them up by discharging and charging to get the charge back in them when they become 'lazy.' How is that going to work with car batteries? Bin them I guess and pay a ridiculous amount to get new ones I presume.

I thought the point of leasing the batteries was that fuel stations up and down the country would have a recharge block of actual batteries... So that you don't stop off to charge your car but just simply swap your low on juice battery for a fully charged one? The 'banks' of batteries I thought were to be paid for through the leasing fee? Not just a case of in a few years time getting your battery swapped.

Original Poster

pdev79

If you don't have power to the outside if your house expect a hefty 'non … If you don't have power to the outside if your house expect a hefty 'non standard' bill. .



That's not true in my case. We live in a bungalow which probably helps, but the engineer fed from the internal consumer unit, up into about 30 feet of attic space then down an outside wall. I lifted a few brinks in a brickweave patio, so he went under the path / gateway to the wall where we park the car.

The cost: free.
Edited by: "Fogg1969" 6th Feb 2014

Make sure have space on fuse board
And that it is a new style on that complies with regulations

Original Poster

seazach

Are there actually any good deals on getting an EV?



I've gone for a three yr contract hire deal on a Nissan Leaf.

I started another thread about that here.

is it secure? so no one use it for Weed Farm or people to park their car to charge free. (any Picture CAHILAN1? )

what happened to car power by the fuel cell - you only need water and emission is water as well (steam) - that would be perfect solution.
Just wonder how much pollution is created to produce batteries and to produce electricity to charge the car - I'm not sure ,if you add all together they are not so "green", like many want us to believe.
I would not be surprised if Petrol producers lobbies to stop development of cars with alternative source of fuel. They would go bust if we move away from crude oil based fuel.
BTW, If you have a electric car already, this is brilliant deal

ag248

is it secure? so no one use it for Weed Farm or people to park their car … is it secure? so no one use it for Weed Farm or people to park their car to charge free. (any Picture CAHILAN1? )



You can switch it on and off with a key so can be made secure.
And a picture of mine:

https://www.parkatmyhouse.com/media/uploaded/listing-photos/528788a2aa167-normal.jpg

Might go for this however don't think I will get a electric car anytime soon also can this connect to any electric car only certain ones?

Harry_Potter

Make sure have space on fuse boardAnd that it is a new style on that … Make sure have space on fuse boardAnd that it is a new style on that complies with regulations



They can fit a separate rcd protected unit, so you don't necessarily need a new fuse board

"Electric vehicle charging socket installed at your house for free."

Not free -- taxpayers pay for it.

Don't get it fitted just cause as when you get an electric car standard has probably changed AND you will probably have cost the tax payer a grand

jamhops

Don't get it fitted just cause as when you get an electric car standard … Don't get it fitted just cause as when you get an electric car standard has probably changed AND you will probably have cost the tax payer a grand



It's worse than that. As you say, the standard will undoubtedly have changed - AND you'll have a rather ugly piece of outdated and useless electrical equipment stuck on the front of your garage or house detracting from its value.

shadowdogg

I truly hate the concept of battery vehicles. It is going to slow down … I truly hate the concept of battery vehicles. It is going to slow down progress. Where is our hydrogen cars?



Hydrogen cars ARE electric cars... The Hydrogen holds the electricity and when the H is combined with Oxygen from the air, it becomes water vapor and releases the electric current, which powers the car...

As a yorkshire man I can never understand why a concept car I saw in the 80s didnt take off.. You just put vegetable scraps in a blender on the back and it converted into a useable fuel..... Although what would I feed my Chickens ? Also from recall they were built in Ireland so may not be overly well built..... Shame another good idea that never took off like electric cars...We all like the idea they just dont work in the real world...

Blasphemous

I tend to agree with you. We're all in a mind set of being able to take … I tend to agree with you. We're all in a mind set of being able to take our car and top it up with fuel if we want/need to go somewhere. You can't do that with Electric, you have to wait hours for a 'refuel'. Hydrogen may be the way forward BUT... there are some massive obstacles to overcome if we are ever going to get anywhere with it (excuse the pun). Producing is the first obstacle. It is (currently), quite expensive to produce and if we're gong to use it to power vehicles, we're going to have to up that production massively. Which brings us to the problem of producing it in a way that is environmentally friendly. There's no point in producing hydrogen as a fuel for vehicles if the production is as polluting as the fossil fuels. And again, we're STILL relying on those fossil fuels to produce hydrogen! Next up is infrastructure. The costs of setting up a national network of hydrogen fueling stations would be colossal. Your local petrol station has electric on the site, setting up electric top-up/refueling bays wouldn't be a huge cost, having a whole new tanking/storage system to hold Hydrogen will be a huge cost. I could go on but I doubt many will have read this far anyway. Suffice to say, Hydrogen, in my opinion, COULD BE the fuel of the future but at this point in time, we're miles away from it becoming any sort of reality.



Then there's the question of how the government would tax cars that could run on hydrogen....or as some have been trialled at the moment, water even. Unless it is taxable they won't allow it cos they're afraid they will lose billions a year in taxable revenue.

Newbold

It's worse than that. As you say, the standard will undoubtedly have … It's worse than that. As you say, the standard will undoubtedly have changed - AND you'll have a rather ugly piece of outdated and useless electrical equipment stuck on the front of your garage or house detracting from its value.



If that was to happen, then they would just change the box on the wall, all the wiring will still be in place. Not to mention the current owners and the second hand market of the electric cars that would use this current socket.

Looks like they are still trying to make money by upselling to a 7kW unit for £95 Why else wouldn't they install it instead of the 3kW socket as standard?
Edited by: "Rebellion" 9th Feb 2014
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