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Elf Evolution Full-Tech FE 5W-30 Synthetic Technology Engine Oil 5 Litre 194908 £16 inc FREE postage @ ebay / motorhomesscotland
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Was just searching for some decent fully synthetic oil for my diesel clio and stumbled upon this bargain high quality oil. You will pay pretty much double this price everywhere else.

Use the correct oil finder on the Total website to ensure that this oil is suitable for your car and the oil specification can be viewed here.
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This isn't fully synthetic.

The wording suggests it, but it's only semi. Sneaky f**kers use the words 'full' and 'synthetic' separately.

Elf fully synthetic starts at the 900 FTX range:

catalog.elf.com/en/…-30


Edit, added link
Edited by: "urban_junk" 30th Jan
So why don't manufacturers just put a letter on top of the oil filler cap to avoid all the confusion ?
Would this be alright to use as a top up for my car that is currently filled with Castrol 5W-30?
urban_junk30/01/2020 16:19

This isn't fully synthetic.The wording suggests it, but it's only semi. …This isn't fully synthetic.The wording suggests it, but it's only semi. Sneaky f**kers use the words 'full' and 'synthetic' separately.Elf fully synthetic starts at the 900 FTX range:https://catalog.elf.com/en/products/c6l-3/EVOLUTION-900-FTX-5W-30Edit, added link


This is C4 so it is fully
Bigbil30/01/2020 18:21

This is C4 so it is fully


Incorrect C4 means C = Catalyst compatible classification 4 = Very low SAPS.

It's semi synthetic oil
Bigbil30/01/2020 18:21

This is C4 so it is fully


Sorry but the other guy is probably right; this isn't 'full synthetic' in the conventional meaning of the word.

This is a typical US-like GF-5 5W30 oil & is very likely based on mildly hydro-cracked, so-called Group II base stocks. It might contain a splosh of 'synthetic' Group III base oil but that's as close as it gets. It's 'a thing' in industry circles to use the words 'synthetic technology' to suggest something is synthetic when it actually isn't.
england198230/01/2020 17:12

Would this be alright to use as a top up for my car that is currently …Would this be alright to use as a top up for my car that is currently filled with Castrol 5W-30?


What oil exactly?
Ah...I retract what I said earlier. I read the wrong spec sheet.

This oil is ACEA C4 so it has a volatility of less that 11%. As such this HAS to be a full synthetic.
Edited by: "Joe90_guy" 30th Jan
urban_junk30/01/2020 18:52

Incorrect C4 means C = Catalyst compatible classification 4 = Very low …Incorrect C4 means C = Catalyst compatible classification 4 = Very low SAPS.It's semi synthetic oil



It would appear that your use of google far exceeds your knowledge of oil.
C4 can only be fully there is no such thing as C4 semi. This oil is biased towards Renault and it would be impossible for it to meet RN720 as a semi on it's performance levels.
ALL Cs are fully.
Joe90_guy30/01/2020 18:53

Sorry but the other guy is probably right; this isn't 'full synthetic' in …Sorry but the other guy is probably right; this isn't 'full synthetic' in the conventional meaning of the word. This is a typical US-like GF-5 5W30 oil & is very likely based on mildly hydro-cracked, so-called Group II base stocks. It might contain a splosh of 'synthetic' Group III base oil but that's as close as it gets. It's 'a thing' in industry circles to use the words 'synthetic technology' to suggest something is synthetic when it actually isn't.



GF-5 is a very recent spec. Fully has been going into cars since the early 2000s. It became main stream from about 2007 on with the exception of mainly Jap cars. C4 was brought out for Renaults that were previously 5w40 fully.
Bigbil30/01/2020 20:59

GF-5 is a very recent spec. Fully has been going into cars since the early …GF-5 is a very recent spec. Fully has been going into cars since the early 2000s. It became main stream from about 2007 on with the exception of mainly Jap cars. C4 was brought out for Renaults that were previously 5w40 fully.


My bad. Don't know why Elf (actually Total) would use those words 'synthetic technology' (as opposed to full synthetic) when they have a clear negative connotation in the oil world.
Bigbil30/01/2020 20:46

It would appear that your use of google far exceeds your knowledge of oil. …It would appear that your use of google far exceeds your knowledge of oil. C4 can only be fully there is no such thing as C4 semi. This oil is biased towards Renault and it would be impossible for it to meet RN720 as a semi on it's performance levels. ALL Cs are fully.


It's down to standards and knowledge. To hit low SAPS, synthetic is used in part.

"All Cs are fully" incorrect, care to explain a more blatant marketed oil:

opieoils.co.uk/p-9…spx

They hide this fact in C4 very well as the synthetic content is much higher. But not 'Fully synthetic' or they would market that way.

Instead they use smart wording, to show the efforts and larger synthetic content.
Joe90_guy30/01/2020 21:03

My bad. Don't know why Elf (actually Total) would use those words …My bad. Don't know why Elf (actually Total) would use those words 'synthetic technology' (as opposed to full synthetic) when they have a clear negative connotation in the oil world.



No probs
TBH people outside the trade get to caught up in the Cs which is only a category. C3 is the most common oil used in the UK, but there are different C3s with different additives and performances. Better to look for the manufacturers spec which should also be on the tub.
urban_junk30/01/2020 21:04

It's down to standards and knowledge. To hit low SAPS, synthetic is used …It's down to standards and knowledge. To hit low SAPS, synthetic is used in part."All Cs are fully" incorrect, care to explain a more blatant marketed oil:https://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-92383-shell-helix-hx7-ect-5w-40-c3-semi-synthetic-engine-oil.aspxThey hide this fact in C4 very well as the synthetic content is much higher. But not 'Fully synthetic' or they would market that way.Instead they use smart wording, to show the efforts and larger synthetic content.



You really don't have a clue what you are talking about. Semi is usually up to around 60% mineral oil. Mineral oil is what comes out the ground. The molecules are all different sizes and all over the place. Fully syn is chemically cracked (in other words it is made by scientists). All the the molecules are the same size and in lines. This is what modern oil is.

ALL Cs are Fully.
Bigbil30/01/2020 21:13

You really don't have a clue what you are talking about. Semi is usually …You really don't have a clue what you are talking about. Semi is usually up to around 60% mineral oil. Mineral oil is what comes out the ground. The molecules are all different sizes and all over the place. Fully syn is chemically cracked (in other words it is made by scientists). All the the molecules are the same size and in lines. This is what modern oil is.ALL Cs are Fully.


You have no idea. I've already proven you wrong. You just carry on making your own facts without source.
Bigbil30/01/2020 21:08

No probsTBH people outside the trade get to caught up in the Cs which is …No probsTBH people outside the trade get to caught up in the Cs which is only a category. C3 is the most common oil used in the UK, but there are different C3s with different additives and performances. Better to look for the manufacturers spec which should also be on the tub.


If memory serves, there were always far too many C categories because the OEMs themselves couldn't get their act together & agree a common, rationalised oil spec. Didn't it work out something like C1 was a crib of the internal Ford spec, C2 was the same for PSA & C3 was Renault? The route from the C category back to the OEM spec is usually a case of running & passing a few meaningless glasswear tests.
urban_junk30/01/2020 21:14

You have no idea. I've already proven you wrong. You just carry on making …You have no idea. I've already proven you wrong. You just carry on making your own facts without source.



I don't need a source as I have a working knowledge of oil, rather than using Google. You are clueless.

C4 was a subsection brought out to accommodate RN720 and 226.51. C4 RN 720 is a current spec for Renaults and Mercs with Renault engines.
But hey, since you know it all so why not pick a fight with Merc for putting old school semi in their cars.
Not only is this ELF oil fully and suitable for new Renaults, but it also has a Mercedes Manufacturers Approval on it. Never on God's Green Earth would a semi meet the performance levels required.

bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bev…tml

I have tried to explain the difference between semi and fully, but you seem intent on a fight.
Edited by: "Bigbil" 30th Jan
urban_junk30/01/2020 19:00

What oil exactly?


It’s the Castrol C3 green bottle and I think I’ve used a litre of Petronas Syntium 5000 AV Engine Oil - 5W-30 (also C3) over the last summer. Supercharged Mini Cooper, so burns through oil
Saw a bunch of Redex fully synthetic oil grades for half price in Tesco, £8 for 2L so might work better for some.
Motul eco nergy 5w30. Thats what am usin for my petrol cars
No good for me, I’m a dwarf not an elf
I get so confused with oil these days... This is the spec oil that is recommended in my handbook:
ACEA A3 or above
API SJ, SL ILSAC GF3
5w 20 or 5w30 or 15w40, 10w30
So when it comes to semi or full synthetics or these C grade oils etc, I dont have a clue.
From the Elf website....
“Using “synthetic oil” terminology can be sometimes confusing as it might concern 2 different categories. Synthetic technology oils are oils produced by mineral refining with chemical treatment (group III). 100% synthetic oils are oils with 100% synthetic molecules (group IV and V) without any mineral refining.”
meandog10131/01/2020 07:48

I get so confused with oil these days... This is the spec oil that is …I get so confused with oil these days... This is the spec oil that is recommended in my handbook: ACEA A3 or aboveAPI SJ, SL ILSAC GF35w 20 or 5w30 or 15w40, 10w30So when it comes to semi or full synthetics or these C grade oils etc, I dont have a clue.

The info in your manual is, as per usual, vague to the point of being meaningless!
If you have a older, gasoline engined car, are a 'normal' driver & don't drive like a maniac, then work on the assumption that ANY oil is 'good enough', regardless of viscosity grade or spec. There are no 'bad' oils for sale in the UK anymore.
Yes a full synthetic will last for longer than a mineral or semi-synthetic oil but often even this distinction is meaningless as 'once per year' servicing causes synthetics to be dumped way 'too early'.
If it helps any, I myself use a full synthetic 0W20 purely for fuel economy. Also because I only do about 5,000 miles per year, now that the car's out of warranty, I get it serviced every two years, not one. Technically, it makes perfect sense but expect howls of anguish from parties that benefit greatly from the current, flawed system.
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england198230/01/2020 17:12

Would this be alright to use as a top up for my car that is currently …Would this be alright to use as a top up for my car that is currently filled with Castrol 5W-30?


Yes. If your car is supposed to take 5w-30 this would certainly be fine to top up with, or do an oil change.
Bigbil30/01/2020 21:39

I don't need a source as I have a working knowledge of oil, rather than …I don't need a source as I have a working knowledge of oil, rather than using Google. You are clueless.C4 was a subsection brought out to accommodate RN720 and 226.51. C4 RN 720 is a current spec for Renaults and Mercs with Renault engines. But hey, since you know it all so why not pick a fight with Merc for putting old school semi in their cars.Not only is this ELF oil fully and suitable for new Renaults, but it also has a Mercedes Manufacturers Approval on it. Never on God's Green Earth would a semi meet the performance levels required.https://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/226.51_en.htmlI have tried to explain the difference between semi and fully, but you seem intent on a fight.


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