These are good pants! I always find Emporio Armani trunks to be the most comfy underwear and these have the all-important keyhole fly for a quick and easy exit without undoing buttons or your belt with the need to whip your chap out over the top. They also have a nice wide waistband and and quite snug to keep you well supported. I'd say that XL in these is like a L is some other brands. I think this is a good deal at less than £9 per pair for quality cacks.