Engine Oil 5W30 Fully Synthetic £14.99 @ Poundstretcher
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Engine Oil 5W30 Fully Synthetic £14.99 @ Poundstretcher

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Found 13th Mar 2016
Found on Pound Stretcher suitable for APISM/CF ACEA C3 ACEA A3/B4 performance MB229.51 VW502.00/505.00 VW505.01 BMW LL 04 GMDEXOS2 Ford M2C917-A(Ford Galaxy 1.9TDI)

Better to use for oil top up so thought would be nice to share!!
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Only £2 more for Shell Helix Ultra with free delivery...
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very good price for a oil what meets the vw 505.01 spec .
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pavel76

Only £2 more for Shell Helix Ultra with free … Only £2 more for Shell Helix Ultra with free delivery...http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/shell-helix-ultra-professional-af-5w-30-fully-synthetic-engine-5-litres-16-99-delivered-2407531



That can't be used for VW
Cheaper at Home Bargains (check my posted deals).
As Peterkey11 pointed out you can get 5l of 507 spec for £18.99 Here
FYI manufactured by rock oils UK. Reputable oil company
4.5L mmm, I guess it is a good price, perfect for my Zafira
munnabhai

That can't be used for VW



What??

Did you just say standard oil cannot be used in a VW engine?

That's a joke right. Oil is not specific to a manufacturer; all that matters is the hot and cold viscosity (big and little numbers).
quizmaniac

very good price for a oil what meets the vw 505.01 spec .



507 is the expensive one (modern TDI).
stevenfeeney

What?? Did you just say standard oil cannot be used in a VW engine?That's … What?? Did you just say standard oil cannot be used in a VW engine?That's a joke right. Oil is not specific to a manufacturer; all that matters is the hot and cold viscosity (big and little numbers).


There's a LOT more to an oil than viscosity.......school yourself before commenting please carbibles.com/eng…tml
marty-401

There's a LOT more to an oil than viscosity.......school yourself before … There's a LOT more to an oil than viscosity.......school yourself before commenting please http://www.carbibles.com/engineoil_bible.html



Good link and obviously you are correct; there is a bit more to oil than simply the numbers but generally all that a layman really needs is the right viscosity.

Now - please point to me the to part in the Car Bible you linked to which says that there is a difference between SAE 10W-30 for a Volkswagen and 10W-30 for a BMW.

I will help you out...you can't because there is no such thing as specific-oil for a car manufacturer. But by all means; take me to school with science and not marketing.

Edited by: "stevenfeeney" 13th Mar 2016
stevenfeeney

Good link and obviously you are correct; there is a bit more to oil than … Good link and obviously you are correct; there is a bit more to oil than simply the numbers but generally all that a layman really needs is the right viscosity. Now - please point to me the to part in the Car Bible you linked to which says that there is a difference between SAE 10W-30 for a Volkswagen and 10W-30 for a BMW. I will help you out...you can't because there is no such thing as specific-oil for a car manufacturer. But by all means; take me to school with science and not marketing.


Where do I start?
The api rating is the easier to understand. Look at the numbers and then at the chart......you will see that the latest spec' is suitable for diesels with a dpf (if you use the older specs then they will contain a higher ash content and gum up the egr and dpf much faster....resulting in poor running/lights on the dash and less mpg). As for vag cars then the oil for the PD engines has to be a high shear oil (it can take higher loads without breaking down) so that the cam driven injector pump does not wear prematurely.
Failing the above advice please feel free to put a couple of bottles of "crisp and dry" cooking oil in at the next oil change as I think the viscosity is similar to the one you are after.
Edited by: "marty-401" 13th Mar 2016
marty-401

Where do I start?The api rating is the easier to understand. Look at the … Where do I start?The api rating is the easier to understand. Look at the numbers and then at the chart......you will see that the latest spec' is suitable for diesels with a dpf (if you use the older specs then they will contain a higher ash content and gum up the egr and dpf much faster....resulting in poor running/lights on the dash and less mpg). As for vag cars then the oil for the PD engines has to be a high shear oil (it can take higher loads without breaking down) so that the cam driven injector pump does not wear prematurely.Failing the above advice please feel free to put a couple of bottles of "crisp and dry" cooking oil in at the next oil change as I think the viscosity is similar to the one you are after.



I see you moved the goalposts.

I wasn't comparing cooking oil and engine oil.

I said show me where (anywhere!) that says there is a scientific reason for specific oil for a car manufacturer.

I will help you out so you don't embarrass yourself further - there is not.

Anyone who pays for "VW Oil" or "Citroen oil" etc is a moron. Anyone who claims that the oil with the right viscosity is "not suitable for a VW" is falling for the biggest marketing ploy in vehicle history.

It's right up there with 3000KM oil change :-) debunked by every consumer report ever.
stevenfeeney

I see you moved the goalposts. I wasn't comparing cooking oil and engine … I see you moved the goalposts. I wasn't comparing cooking oil and engine oil. I said show me where (anywhere!) that says there is a scientific reason for specific oil for a car manufacturer. I will help you out so you don't embarrass yourself further - there is not. Anyone who pays for "VW Oil" or "Citroen oil" etc is a moron. Anyone who claims that the oil with the right viscosity is "not suitable for a VW" is falling for the biggest marketing ploy in vehicle history. It's right up there with 3000KM oil change :-) debunked by every consumer report ever.


The cooking oil quip was for morons.
As for test data try here 540ratblog.wordpress.com/201…ng/ or even here http://bestmotoroil.weebly.com/car-oil-testing.html#.VuZxf6inxJ8
Now show me the
Edited by: "marty-401" 14th Mar 2016
marty-401

The cooking oil quip was for morons.As for test data try here … The cooking oil quip was for morons.As for test data try here https://540ratblog.wordpress.com/2013/06/20/motor-oil-wear-test-ranking/ or even here http://bestmotoroil.weebly.com/car-oil-testing.html#.VuZxf6inxJ8Now show me the



Are you for real you raving lunatic?

You are suggesting that two bloggers in their bedroom; one of which is using Weebly.com and doing the tests in his garage are somehow comparable scientific evidence?

Jog on you troll. Bring me an official report that backs up what you are saying or stop embarrassing yourself.
stevenfeeney

Are you for real you raving lunatic?You are suggesting that two bloggers … Are you for real you raving lunatic?You are suggesting that two bloggers in their bedroom; one of which is using Weebly.com and doing the tests in his garage are somehow comparable scientific evidence?Jog on you troll. Bring me an official report that backs up what you are saying or stop embarrassing yourself.


You are the one making claims against using the correct specification oil for the car. Maybe with your superior knowledge you would be so kind as to provide a scientific report which substantiates your claims?
marty-401

You are the one making claims against using the correct specification oil … You are the one making claims against using the correct specification oil for the car. Maybe with your superior knowledge you would be so kind as to provide a scientific report which substantiates your claims?



...you really are for real.

You want me to prove a negative.

I don't need to prove that any correct viscosity engine oil approved by SAE will work in any automobile. It's an engineering fact.

You need to prove that individual automobile manufacturers require specific oils or that those oils prove a noticeable benefit over white label unbranded products.

Like the poster above claiming *this* engine oil is not suitable for a Volkswagen. *facepalm*
You are claiming that the manufacturers are lying to us.....please produce something scientific to substantiate these claims. I will give you another link in case you would like to ask them what the differences are and why they say it is "vitally important" to use the correct spec oil in a vag pd engine (not just the viscosity) http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-751-vw-50501-oil.aspx
A guy from opie explains things here a bit better seatcupra.net/for…309
Edited by: "marty-401" 14th Mar 2016
Different car engine manufacturers have different oil specification. So when people say "VW oil" they actually mean "oil that meets or exceeds VW specification" or "approved by VW". In this case, the AF spec Shell oil doesn't meet VW spec, hence is not suitable to use in VW engine.
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