Essential Phone PH-1, approx £425 ($450 +$122) New from USA by Amazon
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Essential Phone PH-1, approx £425 ($450 +$122) New from USA by Amazon

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Expires on 24/11/2018Edited by:"TWD"Found 24th Nov
Essential Phone by Andy Rubin, creator of Android (Founder and CEO of Essential).


For those of you in the know, you'll know about this phone, it is from the US, so you'll need an adapter for the power supply, but people are selling this for more than on eBay.

It will depend on the conversion rate from dollars into pounds, from my search on Google it worked out to £428.50 pounds delivered.

It's sold by Amazon and includes the fees/custom charges.


Spec:
Operating SystemAndroid 7.1.1Display5.7-inch LCD, 2560x1312 (505 ppi)
Corning Gorilla Glass 5ChipsetQualcomm Snapdragon 835
2.45GHz octa-core Kryo 280 CPU
Adreno 540 GPURAM4GBStorage128GB (UFS 2.1)
Non-expandableRear CamerasDual 13MP camera (color + monochrome)
f/1.85 lens, phase-detect + laser auto focus
4K video at 30fps, 1080p at 60fps or 720p at 120fpsFront Camera8MP with f/2.2 lens
4K video at 30fps, 1080p at 60fps or 720p at 120fpsBattery3040mAh
Non-removableChargingUSB-C fast chargingWater resistanceNoConnectivity802.11ac Wi-Fi with MIMO, Bluetooth 5.0 LE
NFC, GPS and GLONASS
Accessory power pins with 6 Gbps wireless data transferSecurityOne-touch rear fingerprint sensorAudioSingle down-firing speaker
USB-C to 3.5 mm headphone adapter includedNetworkLTE Bands 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/11/12/13/17/20/21/25/26/28/29/30/66
TDD-LTE Bands 38/39/40/41/42/43Dimensions141.5 x 71.1 x 7.8 mm
185gColorsBlack Moon, Pure White, Stellar Grey, Ocean Depths

31 Comments

No warranty in the UK?

Camera is naff compared to other flagships and the phone itself has bombed stateside, meaning the company could well fold i.e. no future updates.

I'd rather add 20 odd quid and get a 5T or one of the S8 deals that are floating about today

Wait for official uk launch soon

Hot to me hence not available here anyway.

Pspvita1 h, 5 m ago

Wait for official uk launch soon


You mean never. Many companies avoid the UK because they know everybody rocks an iPhone here.

I pray everyday since the launch yet they are still not here yet

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joconnor1 h, 44 m ago

Camera is naff compared to other flagships and the phone itself has bombed …Camera is naff compared to other flagships and the phone itself has bombed stateside, meaning the company could well fold i.e. no future updates.I'd rather add 20 odd quid and get a 5T or one of the S8 deals that are floating about today


Yep, the camera did get some negative reviews when it launched, but there has been some updates which have greatly improved it, I don't think it's far off flagship quality in pictures now.
In relation to updates, there's a beta Oreo already released for it, I think they'll be quicker than Samsung, Huawei etc in getting the latest updates out.

TWD4 h, 45 m ago

Yep, the camera did get some negative reviews when it launched, but there …Yep, the camera did get some negative reviews when it launched, but there has been some updates which have greatly improved it, I don't think it's far off flagship quality in pictures now. In relation to updates, there's a beta Oreo already released for it, I think they'll be quicker than Samsung, Huawei etc in getting the latest updates out.


They have one phone to support. If they can't even handle that then they may as well pack up...

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Badongkadong44 m ago

They have one phone to support. If they can't even handle that then they …They have one phone to support. If they can't even handle that then they may as well pack up...


Well why don't you tell me of any company in history that didn't have a hitch with their first release of a mobile phone?
Are far as I'm concerned, it's an excellent effort which competes with flagships.
It's by Andy Rubin, the creator of Android, you're the equivalent of a Nokia (Sybian) user back in the day saying Android is rubbish.

TWD5 m ago

Well why don't you tell me of any company in history that didn't have a …Well why don't you tell me of any company in history that didn't have a hitch with their first release of a mobile phone?Are far as I'm concerned, it's an excellent effort which competes with flagships. It's by Andy Rubin, the creator of Android, you're the equivalent of a Nokia (Sybian) user back in the day saying Android is rubbish.


You should stop drawing a straw man argument. How did you infer this sentiment based on my comment? Go back to your cave troll.

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Badongkadong2 m ago

You should stop drawing a straw man argument. How did you infer this …You should stop drawing a straw man argument. How did you infer this sentiment based on my comment? Go back to your cave troll.


I'm a troll, seriously, how about you answer the question.... Oh you can't, hence the troll comment.

TWD9 m ago

I'm a troll, seriously, how about you answer the question.... Oh you …I'm a troll, seriously, how about you answer the question.... Oh you can't, hence the troll comment.


That doesn't even make sense, what you're inferring isn't what I meant. You've constructed a false argument to justify your reply.

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Badongkadong7 m ago

That doesn't even make sense, what you're inferring isn't what I meant. …That doesn't even make sense, what you're inferring isn't what I meant. You've constructed a false argument to justify your reply.


It makes perfect sense, you on the other hand are obviously not intelligent enough to understand the argument.

TWD10 h, 31 m ago

It makes perfect sense, you on the other hand are obviously not …It makes perfect sense, you on the other hand are obviously not intelligent enough to understand the argument.


No, you are constructing a strawman argument. Please learn the definition of that and then come back and apologise.

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Badongkadong1 h, 2 m ago

No, you are constructing a strawman argument. Please learn the definition …No, you are constructing a strawman argument. Please learn the definition of that and then come back and apologise.


Looks like I'm going to have to spell this out for you because you're to thick to understand.

1st comment YOU say it has 'no UK support', well it hasn't been launched in the UK, so why would they have a support centre here (this doesn't mean that people don't want the phone here, hence the post)

2nd - YOU say 'they have one phone to support, if they can't do that they should pack up'. So every company that starts up should 'pack up' because they don't have the funds or staff to compete with the big boys?
MY argument is that had Andy Rubin packed up on Android back in the day when Nokia was leading the market, there would be no Android. So, no, he shouldn't 'pack up' on Essential, it may not be flagship yet, but extremely close at half the price, a great 1st effort!

3rd - You say MY reply is a 'straw man' (my argument falls down) comment, and that I'm a troll. Well if you don't understand the argument you need to go back to school as a primary school child would understand the comparison.
In reference to me being a troll, YOU have posted 2 deals (back in 2013) and left 735 comments (and counting, unfortunately) vs Me 14 deals and 234 comments........ I wonder who the troll is?

TWD20 m ago

Looks like I'm going to have to spell this out for you because you're to …Looks like I'm going to have to spell this out for you because you're to thick to understand. 1st comment YOU say it has 'no UK support', well it hasn't been launched in the UK, so why would they have a support centre here (this doesn't mean that people don't want the phone here, hence the post)2nd - YOU say 'they have one phone to support, if they can't do that they should pack up'. So every company that starts up should 'pack up' because they don't have the funds or staff to compete with the big boys? MY argument is that had Andy Rubin packed up on Android back in the day when Nokia was leading the market, there would be no Android. So, no, he shouldn't 'pack up' on Essential, it may not be flagship yet, but extremely close at half the price, a great 1st effort! 3rd - You say MY reply is a 'straw man' (my argument falls down) comment, and that I'm a troll. Well if you don't understand the argument you need to go back to school as a primary school child would understand the comparison. In reference to me being a troll, YOU have posted 2 deals (back in 2013) and left 735 comments (and counting, unfortunately) vs Me 14 deals and 234 comments........ I wonder who the troll is?


Again, none of my comments are invalid? One is subjective but not unreasonable with regards to supporting one model of phone.
You haven't answered my question, is that warranty international? If they are due to launch in UK then surely wait till they release it here instead of using a grey import?

Use some common sense and stop overreacting. You seem to be like a brand champion for Essential, how much are they paying you?

Still waiting for that apology.
Edited by: "Badongkadong" 25th Nov

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Badongkadong5 h, 28 m ago

Again, none of my comments are invalid? One is subjective but not …Again, none of my comments are invalid? One is subjective but not unreasonable with regards to supporting one model of phone.You haven't answered my question, is that warranty international? If they are due to launch in UK then surely wait till they release it here instead of using a grey import?Use some common sense and stop overreacting. You seem to be like a brand champion for Essential, how much are they paying you?Still waiting for that apology.


Apologise for what? The only people that need to apologise are your parents for not using contraception.

You saying that any company that has only one phone to support should pack up is an invalid stupid comment, all companies start from somewhere. I called you up on it and your response was I was a troll, and I called you up on that as well and made you look stupid, by showing what you contribute to the site.
I'm no brand champion of Essential, I don't own the phone, I have the pixel xl, the Huawei p9 before that, although I do like it, and a quick search on you tube by respected reviewers will show you how good the phone is, don't take my word for it, check for yourself if you're capable of doing that without someone having to spell it out for you?

In relation to whether or not it has any support in the UK, most people can figure out from my last post that it doesn't, just like many many many phones that people order from gearbest etc, that doesn't mean that it's not a good phone or that people are not willing to take the risk.

ElgyVeeten24th Nov

You mean never. Many companies avoid the UK because they know everybody …You mean never. Many companies avoid the UK because they know everybody rocks an iPhone here.


Me - I rock a G6

TWD1 h, 37 m ago

Apologise for what? The only people that need to apologise are your …Apologise for what? The only people that need to apologise are your parents for not using contraception. You saying that any company that has only one phone to support should pack up is an invalid stupid comment, all companies start from somewhere. I called you up on it and your response was I was a troll, and I called you up on that as well and made you look stupid, by showing what you contribute to the site. I'm no brand champion of Essential, I don't own the phone, I have the pixel xl, the Huawei p9 before that, although I do like it, and a quick search on you tube by respected reviewers will show you how good the phone is, don't take my word for it, check for yourself if you're capable of doing that without someone having to spell it out for you?In relation to whether or not it has any support in the UK, most people can figure out from my last post that it doesn't, just like many many many phones that people order from gearbest etc, that doesn't mean that it's not a good phone or that people are not willing to take the risk.


Again, more insults. You seem to have a reading comprehension problem so I'll expand on my comment; I was saying that if a company was incapable of supporting one single model of phone then they should pack up. Do you find this comment to be unreasonable? Would you make excuses for a company like that? Notice, I didn't say that Essential was rubbish or that their product was inferior. That is what your strawman argument is based on which is why you are wrong and should apologise to me.

Also, no, you can't just assume people will know that regarding the warranty. If you are advocating to people to purchase a product which is worth over 400 pounds then you should make it clear that regarding this matter and accept that this itself makes the deal very unattractive.

So yeah, I'm still waiting for that apology. Please write it in bold.

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Badongkadong2 h, 50 m ago

Again, more insults. You seem to have a reading comprehension problem so …Again, more insults. You seem to have a reading comprehension problem so I'll expand on my comment; I was saying that if a company was incapable of supporting one single model of phone then they should pack up. Do you find this comment to be unreasonable? Would you make excuses for a company like that? Notice, I didn't say that Essential was rubbish or that their product was inferior. That is what your strawman argument is based on which is why you are wrong and should apologise to me.Also, no, you can't just assume people will know that regarding the warranty. If you are advocating to people to purchase a product which is worth over 400 pounds then you should make it clear that regarding this matter and accept that this itself makes the deal very unattractive.So yeah, I'm still waiting for that apology. Please write it in bold.


My argument was based on you saying that a company that had just started up, should "pack up" because they have no support for one phone in a country they do not even sell to.
If Andy Rubin had "packed up" when he had no support starting Android, then the world would have been a poorer for it; so yes I do think your comment was unreasonable, hence my reply when you called me a 'troll'.
In reference to me being a 'troll' I have put to you:
'YOU have posted 2 deals (back in 2013) and left 735 comments (and counting, unfortunately) vs Me 14 deals and 234 comments........ I wonder who the troll is?'
YOU have failed to answer this???

Whilst I'm at it, I've had a look at the 2 deals you have posted in the 5 years you've been on here, both mobile phones from Expanses, here's what their website says:

Expansys is a leading consumer website focussed on providing the latest in electronic technology products and gadgets to consumers across the Asian Pacific region of the world.

I wonder if Your deals had support for the grey imports you posted, did you mention warranty?

I on the other hand may have forgotten to mention the warranty, but at least I was clear about the fact that you are ordering from outside the EU, and taxes would be paid.

TWD12 m ago

My argument was based on you saying that a company that had just started …My argument was based on you saying that a company that had just started up, should "pack up" because they have no support for one phone in a country they do not even sell to. If Andy Rubin had "packed up" when he had no support starting Android, then the world would have been a poorer for it; so yes I do think your comment was unreasonable, hence my reply when you called me a 'troll'. In reference to me being a 'troll' I have put to you:'YOU have posted 2 deals (back in 2013) and left 735 comments (and counting, unfortunately) vs Me 14 deals and 234 comments........ I wonder who the troll is?' YOU have failed to answer this??? Whilst I'm at it, I've had a look at the 2 deals you have posted in the 5 years you've been on here, both mobile phones from Expanses, here's what their website says:Expansys is a leading consumer website focussed on providing the latest in electronic technology products and gadgets to consumers across the Asian Pacific region of the world.I wonder if Your deals had support for the grey imports you posted, did you mention warranty? I on the other hand may have forgotten to mention the warranty, but at least I was clear about the fact that you are ordering from outside the EU, and taxes would be paid.


Expansys have stopped trading in the UK for quite some time. It's funny how you struggle to debate me within this thread so you need to dig deep into history. Shows how infantile you truly are and why you are a troll.

Again, you have reading comprehension problem. You are drawing a straw man argument. I never commented on Essential's lack of specific support in the UK unless you're referring to the warranty which was a separate comment. Their phone is not officially out in the UK so why would they have customer support?
My comment on support is in reference to the software updates; I would be expecting them as standard as they have 1 model of phone on the market.

You seem to have your wires crossed and completely misconstrued my comments.
I am still waiting for my apology.

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Badongkadong4 h, 11 m ago

Expansys have stopped trading in the UK for quite some time. It's funny …Expansys have stopped trading in the UK for quite some time. It's funny how you struggle to debate me within this thread so you need to dig deep into history. Shows how infantile you truly are and why you are a troll.Again, you have reading comprehension problem. You are drawing a straw man argument. I never commented on Essential's lack of specific support in the UK unless you're referring to the warranty which was a separate comment. Their phone is not officially out in the UK so why would they have customer support?My comment on support is in reference to the software updates; I would be expecting them as standard as they have 1 model of phone on the market.You seem to have your wires crossed and completely misconstrued my comments.I am still waiting for my apology.


You'll be be waiting a long time for an apology seeing that I don't owe you on and I have shown you to be the troll, you've posted 2 deals back in 2013, 7 times less than me, yet you have left (give or take) 3 times more comments than me!

What a load of BS, quote "My comment on support is in reference to the software updates"! Your comment was following me saying 'that there had already been updates to improve the camera and beta Oreo was already out', so how exactly are they not supporting updates and should as YOU put it.... "May as well pack up“?

TWD8 h, 23 m ago

You'll be be waiting a long time for an apology seeing that I don't owe …You'll be be waiting a long time for an apology seeing that I don't owe you on and I have shown you to be the troll, you've posted 2 deals back in 2013, 7 times less than me, yet you have left (give or take) 3 times more comments than me!What a load of BS, quote "My comment on support is in reference to the software updates"! Your comment was following me saying 'that there had already been updates to improve the camera and beta Oreo was already out', so how exactly are they not supporting updates and should as YOU put it.... "May as well pack up“?


You don't seem to understand. I didn't say that they weren't supporting for updates. Stop drawing a strawman argument; my comment is that their software support is exactly what I would expect and nothing less; if they are unable to provide that then they shouldn't be in business.
I'm not sure how many times I need to repeat that before you can understand. Stop misconstruing my words.

I am still waiting for that apology.
Edited by: "Badongkadong" 26th Nov

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Badongkadong3 h, 8 m ago

You don't seem to understand. I didn't say that they weren't supporting …You don't seem to understand. I didn't say that they weren't supporting for updates. Stop drawing a strawman argument; my comment is that their software support is exactly what I would expect and nothing less; if they are unable to provide that then they shouldn't be in business.I'm not sure how many times I need to repeat that before you can understand. Stop misconstruing my words.I am still waiting for that apology.


You are so full of BS, you're comment was quote:
"They have one phone to support. If they can't even handle that then they may as well pack up..."

That was in response to me posting that they had in fact updated software for the camera, and there was a beta Oreo available.

Why would you say they "can't even handle that" and "may as well pack up" when they are in fact handling it?

When I called you up on it, you decided to call me the OP a "Troll" when in fact I have shown to everyone that you have contributed exactly the sum of didily squat on this site, and you are in fact the Troll.

How about when it gets dark, you go wait outside on a busy road for your apology.

TWD45 m ago

You are so full of BS, you're comment was quote:"They have one phone to …You are so full of BS, you're comment was quote:"They have one phone to support. If they can't even handle that then they may as well pack up..."That was in response to me posting that they had in fact updated software for the camera, and there was a beta Oreo available. Why would you say they "can't even handle that" and "may as well pack up" when they are in fact handling it?When I called you up on it, you decided to call me the OP a "Troll" when in fact I have shown to everyone that you have contributed exactly the sum of didily squat on this site, and you are in fact the Troll.How about when it gets dark, you go wait outside on a busy road for your apology.


Again, I said if they can't handle that. Do you understand the meaning of the word, if?
I did not pass judgement on them but remarked on my expectations. You then took my words and twisted them to a distorted immensely. I can see you've now dug a huge hole for yourself which you have no hope of coming out of.
Be a grown man and admit you are wrong, then apologise. Stop being an infant.

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Badongkadong13 m ago

Again, I said if they can't handle that. Do you understand the meaning of …Again, I said if they can't handle that. Do you understand the meaning of the word, if?I did not pass judgement on them but remarked on my expectations. You then took my words and twisted them to a distorted immensely. I can see you've now dug a huge hole for yourself which you have no hope of coming out of.Be a grown man and admit you are wrong, then apologise. Stop being an infant.


I understand 'if' but what exactly was the point of your comment responding to the fact that they are handling it?

What was the point of you calling me a Troll when in fact I have shown you up as the troll?

The only person I need to apologise to is myself for entertaining such a 🔔 🔚.

How about you stick to posting on the deals you post, as you are no longer welcome here.

TWD10 m ago

I understand 'if' but what exactly was the point of your comment … I understand 'if' but what exactly was the point of your comment responding to the fact that they are handling it?What was the point of you calling me a Troll when in fact I have shown you up as the troll? The only person I need to apologise to is myself for entertaining such a 🔔 🔚.How about you stick to posting on the deals you post, as you are no longer welcome here.


Because you were making it sound like they were doing something exceptional and I wanted to counter that point. This is commonly known as a discussion.
I called you a troll because you latched onto an something which wasn't actually my point but you kept at it with your strawman argument.
If you are such a poor sport that you'll resort to telling me to commit suicide (yes, I did read that part in your previous post) then you need to see a therapist.
So yeah, an apology in bold, please.
Edited by: "Badongkadong" 26th Nov

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Badongkadong3 h, 39 m ago

Because you were making it sound like they were doing something …Because you were making it sound like they were doing something exceptional and I wanted to counter that point. This is commonly known as a discussion. I called you a troll because you latched onto an something which wasn't actually my point but you kept at it with your strawman argument.If you are such a poor sport that you'll resort to telling me to commit suicide (yes, I did read that part in your previous post) then you need to see a therapist.So yeah, an apology in bold, please.


You haven't countered any point!

How about this, your life consists of writing pointless comments on a website so that people engage in a discussion with you, because you are a very sad Troll, and 'IF' (seeing as you are so found of that word) you were never born the world would be a better place.
Feel free not to discuss because I'm bored of you Troll. You've been Muted!

TWD56 m ago

You haven't countered any point!How about this, your life consists of …You haven't countered any point!How about this, your life consists of writing pointless comments on a website so that people engage in a discussion with you, because you are a very sad Troll, and 'IF' (seeing as you are so found of that word) you were never born the world would be a better place. Feel free not to discuss because I'm bored of you Troll. You've been Muted!


You've literally contributed nothing since you started crying over my comments. If you can't take criticism then don't post any "deals". I am still waiting for your apology; you can either grow up and admit you were wrong or continue to dig this hole till you tunnel to the other side.

Don't stop now,it's just getting interesting.

Guys calm down it's just a bloody phone! Lol I'll buy you both a Pepsi and Coca Cola each...
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