EVGA 600 Watt 80 PLUS Wired ATX PSU/Power Supply Black @ Scan £35.47 inc delivery
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EVGA 600 Watt 80 PLUS Wired ATX PSU/Power Supply Black @ Scan £35.47 inc delivery

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Brilliant price - much cheaper than Amazon. Good for when you're just starting out.
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Got one of these last year, nice, stable voltage outputs on all ranges - and this is a fair bit less than i paid.

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Gentle_Giant16/05/2019 09:42

Got one of these last year, nice, stable voltage outputs on all ranges - …Got one of these last year, nice, stable voltage outputs on all ranges - and this is a fair bit less than i paid.Heat


Wondering how you tested the stability of the voltage outputs and what equipment was used as if it was software then that means nothing and professional review would disagree with you.

These are bad group regulated bottom of the range PSUs, if you want to run a basic office PC with on-board graphics then these are find but with a dedicated GPU at least spend the extra £10 for a Corsair CX PSU.
rp712216/05/2019 12:05

Wondering how you tested the stability of the voltage outputs and what …Wondering how you tested the stability of the voltage outputs and what equipment was used as if it was software then that means nothing and professional review would disagree with you.These are bad group regulated bottom of the range PSUs, if you want to run a basic office PC with on-board graphics then these are find but with a dedicated GPU at least spend the extra £10 for a Corsair CX PSU.


Would it help if I said I was a qualified electronics tech with stuff installed on HM Nuclear Submarines??

Corsair buy in and rebadge PSUs, so some are great, others are pretty crap.

The CX650 is the nearest I can see from a quick look, and it is a lot more than £10 more expensive - ie nearly double the EVGA price if buying from a reputable trader (the ones on fleabay for £25-£45 are likely to be fakes).

The EVGA isnt the best, but it is pretty decent for the price range; I have had psus at twice the price with much worse output stability
Gentle_Giant16/05/2019 12:28

Would it help if I said I was a qualified electronics tech with stuff …Would it help if I said I was a qualified electronics tech with stuff installed on HM Nuclear Submarines??Corsair buy in and rebadge PSUs, so some are great, others are pretty crap. The CX650 is the nearest I can see from a quick look, and it is a lot more than £10 more expensive - ie nearly double the EVGA price if buying from a reputable trader (the ones on fleabay for £25-£45 are likely to be fakes).The EVGA isnt the best, but it is pretty decent for the price range; I have had psus at twice the price with much worse output stability


Well regarding being a qualified electronics tech then that doesn't really help as I asked about equipment for a reason as you need to properly test cross loading results to simulate how a PC runs to really check the rails and that is why I only trust proper professional reviews as they have the equipment and the specialist knowledge.

The Corsair CX450 is £46 on amazon and I know that it is 150w less than this, but if you really need 600w then you should still be spending more anyway.
Also basically every PSU brand is a re-badge just like this EVGA one.

Review of this PSU, 0.34v dropped on 12v rail is not good at all:
m.hardocp.com/art…w/9
Edited by: "rp7122" 16th May
rp712216/05/2019 12:59

Well regarding being a qualified electronics tech then that doesn't really …Well regarding being a qualified electronics tech then that doesn't really help as I asked about equipment for a reason as you need to properly test cross loading results to simulate how a PC runs to really check the rails and that is why I only trust proper professional reviews as they have the equipment and the specialist knowledge.The Corsair CX450 is £46 on amazon and I know that it is 150w less than this, but if you really need 600w then you should still be spending more anyway.Also basically every PSU brand is a re-badge just like this EVGA one.Review of this PSU, 0.34v dropped on 12v rail is not good at all:https://m.hardocp.com/article/2015/02/19/evga_430w_power_supply_review/9


That's the review of their entry-level 430w unit. This is a different unit, so the comment has little merit.
Edited by: "Blurigard" 16th May
rp712216/05/2019 12:59

Well regarding being a qualified electronics tech then that doesn't really …Well regarding being a qualified electronics tech then that doesn't really help as I asked about equipment for a reason as you need to properly test cross loading results to simulate how a PC runs to really check the rails and that is why I only trust proper professional reviews as they have the equipment and the specialist knowledge.The Corsair CX450 is £46 on amazon and I know that it is 150w less than this, but if you really need 600w then you should still be spending more anyway.Also basically every PSU brand is a re-badge just like this EVGA one.Review of this PSU, 0.34v dropped on 12v rail is not good at all:https://m.hardocp.com/article/2015/02/19/evga_430w_power_supply_review/9




No, some of the big brands do actually make their own; the problem with Corsair and others who buy in is that they are reliant on the OEM sticking to the script; more than once a psu has come out to excellent reviews, then the OEM started cutting corners and the "Brand" wasnt QC testing and failed to spot it until customers started giving the psu awful reviews.

Corsair used to make their own top end - mid range psu's, but buy in their low end stuff; not looked to see what is going on with them right now; TBF, not seen a really bad review of their mid-range psus from a full techy site in a couple of years; however they did drop the ball years ago with one range.

I dont "trust" any brand these days ( I got caught out with a bad PSU); if I need to buy something I look at the current reviews - nothing more than a year old - and base my purchase decision on those.

And I certainly wont buy from a non dealer - ebay is a big no, far too many fakes, even Amazon is not 100% safe these days.


Finally, saying a CX is only a tenner more, when the CX in question is 450W and the comparison is with a 600W unit is a bit like saying an expensive scooter is better than a car, because it gets a better mpg; despite the fact you want to carry 5 people.
(The above analogy doesnt work in the South East Asia, where 4-6 people on a scooter is an everyday event).
Blurigard16/05/2019 13:32

That's the review of their entry-level 430w unit. This is a different …That's the review of their entry-level 430w unit. This is a different unit, so the comment has little merit.


Nope these are both their entry level "White" PSUs.

Even look at the pictures if that helps.
Gentle_Giant16/05/2019 13:58

No, some of the big brands do actually make their own; the problem with …No, some of the big brands do actually make their own; the problem with Corsair and others who buy in is that they are reliant on the OEM sticking to the script; more than once a psu has come out to excellent reviews, then the OEM started cutting corners and the "Brand" wasnt QC testing and failed to spot it until customers started giving the psu awful reviews.Corsair used to make their own top end - mid range psu's, but buy in their low end stuff; not looked to see what is going on with them right now; TBF, not seen a really bad review of their mid-range psus from a full techy site in a couple of years; however they did drop the ball years ago with one range.I dont "trust" any brand these days ( I got caught out with a bad PSU); if I need to buy something I look at the current reviews - nothing more than a year old - and base my purchase decision on those.And I certainly wont buy from a non dealer - ebay is a big no, far too many fakes, even Amazon is not 100% safe these days.Finally, saying a CX is only a tenner more, when the CX in question is 450W and the comparison is with a 600W unit is a bit like saying an expensive scooter is better than a car, because it gets a better mpg; despite the fact you want to carry 5 people.(The above analogy doesnt work in the South East Asia, where 4-6 people on a scooter is an everyday event).


Well the fact that you are state that Corsair used to make their own PSU is completely wrong, Corsair has never made their own PSUs ever, they have always used a long list of oem to make them.
With regards to "QC" no proper reviewer ever uses cherry picked PSUs from a manufacturer the industry works by getting reimbursed from the brand after buying from a shop.

I already covered the only 450 vs 600w, unless you are running a i9/threadripper and a Radeon VII you don't need that much power, always better to get a quality over unused capacity.
rp712216/05/2019 14:47

Nope these are both their entry level "White" PSUs.Even look at the …Nope these are both their entry level "White" PSUs.Even look at the pictures if that helps.


Okay, but one is 430w and one is 600w, right?
Blurigard16/05/2019 14:59

Okay, but one is 430w and one is 600w, right?


Same range will use same quality components, would probably use exactly the same components as most makers do until you hit close to 700w.
rp712216/05/2019 15:04

Same range will use same quality components, would probably use exactly …Same range will use same quality components, would probably use exactly the same components as most makers do until you hit close to 700w.


Or they could be made by entirely different manufacturers. It's complete speculation. You can't just state things as fact when there is no evidence for it. It's pure assumption.
Edited by: "Blurigard" 16th May
Blurigard16/05/2019 15:24

Or they could be made by entirely different manufacturers. It's complete …Or they could be made by entirely different manufacturers. It's complete speculation. You can't just state things as fact when there is no evidence for it. It's pure assumption.


realhardtechx.com/ind…htm

Here the entire white range is made by HEC there is no review for the 600w version but if you really want to gamble your PC on only the 600w being made superior then by all means.
Also HEC make cheap bad PSUs in their entire range as a OEM.

This is EVGA's PSU that is designed to be as cheap as possible.

Can you find me any evidence that this is not bad as I am the only one providing actual information!
Edited by: "rp7122" 16th May
rp712216/05/2019 14:57

Well the fact that you are state that Corsair used to make their own PSU …Well the fact that you are state that Corsair used to make their own PSU is completely wrong, Corsair has never made their own PSUs ever, they have always used a long list of oem to make them. With regards to "QC" no proper reviewer ever uses cherry picked PSUs from a manufacturer the industry works by getting reimbursed from the brand after buying from a shop.I already covered the only 450 vs 600w, unless you are running a i9/threadripper and a Radeon VII you don't need that much power, always better to get a quality over unused capacity.



I will have to go check up; but I was fairly certain Corsair used to make their own top end psu gear.

Not talking cherry picked, just OEM playing ball for a while, then cutting corners when they hope the brand has started trusting them - seen it happen with many products, although sometimes it is the brands own bean-counters who cause the issue.

Most mid to high end gfx cards want more current than a 450W psu can provide comfortably; and you want an adequate over provision to allow for switch-on surges and the gradual loss of capacity over age., 500-600w is the sweet spot; enough to keep most people happy for several years.
Gentle_Giant16/05/2019 15:39

I will have to go check up; but I was fairly certain Corsair used to make …I will have to go check up; but I was fairly certain Corsair used to make their own top end psu gear.Not talking cherry picked, just OEM playing ball for a while, then cutting corners when they hope the brand has started trusting them - seen it happen with many products, although sometimes it is the brands own bean-counters who cause the issue.Most mid to high end gfx cards want more current than a 450W psu can provide comfortably; and you want an adequate over provision to allow for switch-on surges and the gradual loss of capacity over age., 500-600w is the sweet spot; enough to keep most people happy for several years.


Here is the entire list of Corsair PSUs with OEMs:
realhardtechx.com/ind…htm

Have never heard of a PSU that has reduced quality during its life mostly becuase re-tooling the factory would probably cost as much as using cheaper parts. I have heard of cherry picked units that were sent to reviews that is why most of the brands reimburse these days.

Power consumption of Mid/High GPUs using i9 @ 5.0ghz (which would be close to 200w):
static.techspot.com/art…png

But if you really need 600w of power then you should definitely not use this, I recommend a CX450 as perfect for a budget gaming build, but if you are spending £1500 on a high end gaming machine then it would be silly to cheap out on a PSU that can kill the entire PC as there are lots of great high end PSU around the £60-70 mark.
Bought this from Amazon a few weeks back and it seems pretty decent so far. Slightly cheaper too.
amazon.co.uk/gp/…c=1
Pasanda16/05/2019 16:18

Bought this from Amazon a few weeks back and it seems pretty decent so …Bought this from Amazon a few weeks back and it seems pretty decent so far. Slightly cheaper too.https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00JKVHLIO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


That PSU is a also a bit better than this one (not by much though), still avoid it if you have a dedicated GPU though.
rp712216/05/2019 16:26

That PSU is a also a bit better than this one (not by much though), still …That PSU is a also a bit better than this one (not by much though), still avoid it if you have a dedicated GPU though.


Why is that? I bought it specifically to drive my sons pc with an rx 570 gpu. Should be power to spare?
rp712216/05/2019 15:57

Here is the entire list of Corsair PSUs with …Here is the entire list of Corsair PSUs with OEMs:http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page447.htmHave never heard of a PSU that has reduced quality during its life mostly becuase re-tooling the factory would probably cost as much as using cheaper parts. I have heard of cherry picked units that were sent to reviews that is why most of the brands reimburse these days.Power consumption of Mid/High GPUs using i9 @ 5.0ghz (which would be close to 200w):https://static.techspot.com/articles-info/1789/bench/Power.pngBut if you really need 600w of power then you should definitely not use this, I recommend a CX450 as perfect for a budget gaming build, but if you are spending £1500 on a high end gaming machine then it would be silly to cheap out on a PSU that can kill the entire PC as there are lots of great high end PSU around the £60-70 mark.



Thanks, OK my memory is wrong - it happens - a lot more than it used to.

It isnt a case of retooling, it is a case of replacing a specific brand/model of component with a cheaper substitute; it doesnt need any retooling to load a component insertion machine with a cheaper brand of the same size and supposed value.

There have been plenty of documented cases - not specifically psu's - where later versions were given cheaper/different components, to the detriment of the product. Sometimes it is deliberate, some times a sub contractor cheats the OEM and they didnt notice, some times the sub gets conned by a supplier.

There was a prosecution in the US this year, a guy selling rebranded cheap versions of an IC chip as the Mil-spec version; several wholesale suppliers bought and sold-on the chips to sub contractors who used them in good faith for US military contracts.

The guy only made a few hundred $k, but it is costing the US military millions to identify and replace the duff stuff.
Pasanda16/05/2019 17:54

Why is that? I bought it specifically to drive my sons pc with an rx 570 …Why is that? I bought it specifically to drive my sons pc with an rx 570 gpu. Should be power to spare?


It's not great quality, high ripple on the 12v rail which sensitive components like GPUs do not like and would affect their longevity.
rp712216/05/2019 18:40

It's not great quality, high ripple on the 12v rail which sensitive …It's not great quality, high ripple on the 12v rail which sensitive components like GPUs do not like and would affect their longevity.


OK. Thanks.
Bought this to replace my existing PSU as the pc kept rebooting during heavy gaming. The PSU I replaced was a Corsair cx500. Now all running sweet
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