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Felt VR3 Performance Disc Carbon Road Bike - £1,649 / £1,668.99 delivered @ Merlin Cycles
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Felt VR3 Performance Disc Carbon Road Bike - £1,649 / £1,668.99 delivered @ Merlin Cycles

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Posted 20th Jul 2019

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We have this Felt VR3 endurance bike with a specially fitted Rotor 3D30 - 32/48T chainset and 11/34 cassette, so you don't have to stop and walk up every hill!

Review at bicycling.com/bik…ew/
  • Frame: UHC Performance, carbon fibre, 142x12
  • Fork: UHC Performance, carbon fiber, 12x100

Wheels
  • Wheels: DT Swiss E1800 - 700c
  • Tyres: Schwalbe One - 700x28c

Drivetrain
  • Gear/Brake Levers: Shimano Ultegra R8020 - 11 Speed
  • Front Derailleur: Shimano Ultegra R8000
  • Rear Derailleur: Shimano Ultegra R8000
  • Chainset: Rotor 3D30 - 32/48T
  • Cassette: Shimano 105 - 11/34T
  • Chain: Shimano - 11 Speed
  • Pedals: Not included

Components
  • Saddle: Prologo Kappa Space T2.0
  • Seatpost: Devox UHC Performance carbon
  • Handlebars: Devox Road Endurance
  • Stem: Devox
  • Brake Calipers: Shimano Ultegra BR8070
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It’s the same old tosh that appears on most bike deals unfortunately. Don’t buy a Canyon by the way because the frames are made by people sitting on stools not chairs and they don’t wear hair nets so you might get a hair in your frame..... get yourself down to Sports Direct for a MF race 200
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I'd want everything ultegra at this price
Edited by: "ciarandanielbyrne1" 20th Jul 2019
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ciarandanielbyrne120/07/2019 19:08

I'd want everything ultegra at this price


The rotor cranks are better than ultegra, as are the wheels... but please feel free to buy the bike and downgrade to ultegra if you like
Edited by: "deleted2115508" 20th Jul 2019
Many of the Felt models or the frames at least are made by Uniglory in Bangladesh including CF same as many budget brands. Felt is a french owned brand nowadays. I only mention it as it's easy to have a perception of quality by the brand but you should base the quality on the actual manufacturer. Generally Bangladesh manufacturing is seen as inferior quality to countries like Taiwan and mainland China and a bit worse than Cambodia (Cambodia is the biggest source of bikes to the EU). The EU gives Bangladesh very favourable trading terms so it's exports are very competitively priced. Some brands that sell to different countries have their bikes made in different countries for cost reasons. Same design but completely different factory and different quality level even if the base materials are the same. £1650 or more seems a lot to me unless you can be sure the frame is made in a high quality facility in Taiwan or mainland China. If it isn't then it's basically the same as a budget CF road bike with a more prestigious brand slapped on. Not saying Bangladesh CF frames are bad just resent such budget frames being presented as higher end by putting a prestigious brand on them. Obviously the marketing of such frames is still full on ,stating how advanced the CF is wherever it comes from.


meghnagroup.com.bd/bic…td/
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bonzobanana21/07/2019 10:56

Many of the Felt models or the frames at least are made by Uniglory in …Many of the Felt models or the frames at least are made by Uniglory in Bangladesh including CF same as many budget brands. Felt is a french owned brand nowadays. I only mention it as it's easy to have a perception of quality by the brand but you should base the quality on the actual manufacturer. Generally Bangladesh manufacturing is seen as inferior quality to countries like Taiwan and mainland China and a bit worse than Cambodia (Cambodia is the biggest source of bikes to the EU). The EU gives Bangladesh very favourable trading terms so it's exports are very competitively priced. Some brands that sell to different countries have their bikes made in different countries for cost reasons. Same design but completely different factory and different quality level even if the base materials are the same. £1650 or more seems a lot to me unless you can be sure the frame is made in a high quality facility in Taiwan or mainland China. If it isn't then it's basically the same as a budget CF road bike with a more prestigious brand slapped on. Not saying Bangladesh CF frames are bad just resent such budget frames being presented as higher end by putting a prestigious brand on them. Obviously the marketing of such frames is still full on ,stating how advanced the CF is wherever it comes from.http://www.meghnagroup.com.bd/bicycle-division/manufacture/uniglory-cycle-industries-ltd/


You do know its defamatory to post unsubstantiated comments don't you? I ask because you've come out with the same crap on two different threads now.
deleted211550821/07/2019 20:47

You do know its defamatory to post unsubstantiated comments don't you? I …You do know its defamatory to post unsubstantiated comments don't you? I ask because you've come out with the same crap on two different threads now.


Come on surely you must be able to answer posts without such a pathetic childish response unless you are eleven years old or something. The link clearly shows a large scale manufacturer in Bangladesh who make CF frames and also state clearly they provide bikes and/or frames for Felt. Of course I don't have the specific information of which Felt models are made in Bangladesh. Unless you don't believe Felt are french owned but that is easy to find out too.

bikebiz.com/fel…es/

My post clearly states accurate information regarding many Felt bikes coming from Bangladesh and being a french owned firm. However my viewpoint that Bangladesh does not match the quality of Cambodia and is well behind Taiwan and mainland China generally is my own viewpoint but I feel this is a common viewpoint in the bike industry. The primary reason to manufacturer in Bangladesh is cost reasons not quality.

This is a value forum and £1600 is a lot of money to spend on a bike and feel it's important to understand the background to Felt bikes to make an informed choice. They are promoted as a US brand with high tech bicycle engineering, not a french company buying cheaply made bikes from Bangladesh. Not that I'm saying this specific Felt bike or frame is definitely coming from Bangladesh but a huge number of European brands are building even high end CF frames in Bangladesh.

thedailystar.net/bus…277

It's pretty obvious I don't like the situation where a bike brand promotes itself as a lifestyle brand with high end engineering but in the background buys from the cheapest factories they can find. I guess I'm not keen on brands resellng another factories product as their own with a huge margin added.

I mean who else are buying Meghna bikes, you have companies like Avocet who have low cost brands, you have tandem and their low cost brands, you have some shop brands and generally value brands. Does Felt market itself as a value brand?
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bonzobanana21/07/2019 22:49

Come on surely you must be able to answer posts without such a pathetic …Come on surely you must be able to answer posts without such a pathetic childish response unless you are eleven years old or something. The link clearly shows a large scale manufacturer in Bangladesh who make CF frames and also state clearly they provide bikes and/or frames for Felt. Of course I don't have the specific information of which Felt models are made in Bangladesh. Unless you don't believe Felt are french owned but that is easy to find out too.https://www.bikebiz.com/felt-bought-by-rossignol-owner-of-time-bicycles/My post clearly states accurate information regarding many Felt bikes coming from Bangladesh and being a french owned firm. However my viewpoint that Bangladesh does not match the quality of Cambodia and is well behind Taiwan and mainland China generally is my own viewpoint but I feel this is a common viewpoint in the bike industry. The primary reason to manufacturer in Bangladesh is cost reasons not quality. This is a value forum and £1600 is a lot of money to spend on a bike and feel it's important to understand the background to Felt bikes to make an informed choice. They are promoted as a US brand with high tech bicycle engineering, not a french company buying cheaply made bikes from Bangladesh. Not that I'm saying this specific Felt bike or frame is definitely coming from Bangladesh but a huge number of European brands are building even high end CF frames in Bangladesh.https://www.thedailystar.net/business/news/germanys-cube-teams-meghna-make-high-end-bicycles-1632277It's pretty obvious I don't like the situation where a bike brand promotes itself as a lifestyle brand with high end engineering but in the background buys from the cheapest factories they can find. I guess I'm not keen on brands resellng another factories product as their own with a huge margin added.I mean who else are buying Meghna bikes, you have companies like Avocet who have low cost brands, you have tandem and their low cost brands, you have some shop brands and generally value brands. Does Felt market itself as a value brand?


Sure, I would like you to prove that Felt carbon frames and particularly this specific bike, were and are made in Bangladesh.

Felt are a very large bike brand catering for a whole market from low to top end. I would like you to point out the proof you have that Felt carbon frames are made in Bangladesh.

I would also like you to post proof that Scott carbon frames are similar made in Bangladesh, as you claimed on another thread.

I would also like you to post proof that frames made by the stated companies are more likely to fail, are lower quality, and are in any way inferior to the rest of the market.

If you can't I suggest you withdraw your entirely speculative and baseless comments.
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bonzobanana21/07/2019 23:48

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I've contacted the Felt team to visit hotukdeals to review your comments, as I'm sure they will be interested in answering them as well as reviewing them from a legal perspective.
bonzobanana21/07/2019 23:48

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A Company outsourcing to lower their costs, nope that must be a new one on me, never heard of any company ever offshoring to lower cost centres.

Felt do use Uniglory cycle Ltd and all that has been published there is for their entry Aluminium/Steel bikes - even this video here showing a Felt in 2015 that to me looks like a kids Q20 or something from the BMX Range (cable mount positions across top tube)

Uniglory 2015

bonzobanana21/07/2019 23:48

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Specifically Uniglory have no direct link with Felt to make Carbon Frames and only announced in 2016 that they had signed an agreement with ADK Technology to make Carbon Fibre frames (nothing further on that announcement since either).

ADK Technology are themselves an outsourcing company and do produce Carbon fibre framesets for Felt (see recalls 2009 to 2011 forks) - but formally all that has ever been announced from Felt with ADK is the frames come from China.

If ADK are outsourcing an outsourced deal to Uniglory and Felt already have a direct deal with Uniglory, and as you have stated Felt want the cheapest deal would there not be a similar announcement from Uniglory that they have signed a direct contract with Felt to produce Carbon Frames (it would be a big mile stone for them).

If not the case and ADK sourcing from the same supplier for Felt, why would Felt be paying the middle man seeming they already have deals directly with the supplier?

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As above, it is very unlikely to have come from Bangladesh, but why are you fretting yourself about others spending beyond your own means or reading the professional reviews about it, are you not happy with the Muddy Fox Race 200 you bought for £157?

@Boobooj - nice post - the accusations of pathetic childish, being eleven and pompous is more a reflection the person making these statements.
It’s the same old tosh that appears on most bike deals unfortunately. Don’t buy a Canyon by the way because the frames are made by people sitting on stools not chairs and they don’t wear hair nets so you might get a hair in your frame..... get yourself down to Sports Direct for a MF race 200
deleted211550820/07/2019 19:38

The rotor cranks are better than ultegra, as are the wheels... but please …The rotor cranks are better than ultegra, as are the wheels... but please feel free to buy the bike and downgrade to ultegra if you like


I reckon it's 50/50 as to whether the Rotor crankset is indeed better, *but* it does have the advantage of taking standard 110mm BCD 5-bolt chainrings, which are cheap as chips and readily available, especially compared to Shimano's very expensive offerings.

Personally, I value this for my son's bike where we do a fair amount of swapping around of bits depending on the type of riding he's doing (youth racing has strictly applied gear limits that are the bane of every parent's life!), so being able to source a stash of easily swappable transmission components is very handy. As it happens, he also has a Rotor crankset (Aldhu) and it's quite excellent, so this particular Ultegra swapout wouldn't bother me at all.
billynewing22/07/2019 07:10

It’s the same old tosh that appears on most bike deals unfortunately. D …It’s the same old tosh that appears on most bike deals unfortunately. Don’t buy a Canyon by the way because the frames are made by people sitting on stools not chairs and they don’t wear hair nets so you might get a hair in your frame..... get yourself down to Sports Direct for a MF race 200


Hah, yes. I'm afraid that I just ignore his rambling now. It reads to me like someone who bought a cheap bike without really understanding what they were buying, experienced buyer's remorse and so, has decided to try to persuade the rest of the world that their decision was a good one in other to sooth their own feelings!

I have no problems whether someone chooses to buy a £150 bike, or a £15,000 bike, just be happy with your own decision. Oh, and if you did buy the £150 one, no I won't look at why your gears won't index properly...!
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