Feminism is Sexism (Kindle Edition) £2.99
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Feminism is Sexism (Kindle Edition) £2.99

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Found 17th May
Pages 429, Print ed £9.99.

"For those whose mind is closed on the subject of feminism because society has told them what to think and they obediently think it, there are many hundreds of books available that will reinforce their cultural orthodoxy. This book is not for them. It takes a radically anti-establishment position and expresses an alternative point of view. It argues for a genuinely impartial sex equality and attempts to demonstrate that, not only has feminism always been opposed to sex equality, feminism has actually stopped us from achieving an impartial sex equality....Drawing upon evidence and examples from the UK, the USA, and elsewhere, the arguments in “Feminism is Sexism” may be unsettling, but they are not going to disappear simply because the political establishment chooses to ignore them. This is a provocative book which challenges you to doubt beliefs which you may have held all your life without really questioning them. Question them now.
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polarbaba40 m ago

Here here for equal rights!...


Or there there?

LOL JK, but seriously it's 'hear hear' (abbreviated form of 'hear him, hear him' i.e. 'hear his argument because it's sensible'), not 'here here'.

When anyone asks me if I'm a feminist, I alway ask what their definition of feminism is before I answer. Tends to irritate people, but there is not one incarnation; it's a spectrum from manifestly reasonable ideas to angry sexist nonsense. This also tends to include what the person's definition of equality is, which is also important.

I am really worried about how willingly hard-left folks will slap people with labels such as 'sexist' or 'racist' or 'mysognynist' etc. if they dare to disagree with them or even challenge ideas. It's like the radical left have become the caricature of the far right. They shout very loudly and it's starting to pollute all public discourse. I just don't tend to see it in the opposite direction, but maybe that's my blinkers on or confirmation/selection bias.
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Reading some of the clueless and inane comments above reminds me why feminism exists.
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oqey3 m ago

Feminism is cancer.


Modern feminists have twisted the idea of it. What it used to stand for, EQUALITY for everyone is, obviously, correct.
Here here for equal rights!...
John Stuart Mill the English philosopher advises in On Liberty that the time to listen to the other opinion is when you're convinced that you are absolutely right, and are thus denying your own human fallibility.
Edited by: "hullu" 17th May
Hairy armpits
polarbaba40 m ago

Here here for equal rights!...


Or there there?

LOL JK, but seriously it's 'hear hear' (abbreviated form of 'hear him, hear him' i.e. 'hear his argument because it's sensible'), not 'here here'.

When anyone asks me if I'm a feminist, I alway ask what their definition of feminism is before I answer. Tends to irritate people, but there is not one incarnation; it's a spectrum from manifestly reasonable ideas to angry sexist nonsense. This also tends to include what the person's definition of equality is, which is also important.

I am really worried about how willingly hard-left folks will slap people with labels such as 'sexist' or 'racist' or 'mysognynist' etc. if they dare to disagree with them or even challenge ideas. It's like the radical left have become the caricature of the far right. They shout very loudly and it's starting to pollute all public discourse. I just don't tend to see it in the opposite direction, but maybe that's my blinkers on or confirmation/selection bias.
oqey1 h, 6 m ago

Feminism is cancer.


I'm always getting my comments deleted and told off by the powers that be.
How have you got away with this?
Just realised this may be classed as a political thread. Prepare to receive the deletion hammer.
Interesting read.He does appear to make the ‘error’ of considering gender in isolation from other variables, however, such as social class, national chauvinism and culture.The ‘white feathers’ example is illuminating in this respect: perhaps there was a ‘misandric’ element to this, but he betrays a lack of nuance here. Not unlike when certain feminists present everything in similarly black and white terms. Read Mary Beard's book at the weekend and it was also quite weak, despite her brilliant use of examples from antiquity. Thanks anyway.
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Reading some of the clueless and inane comments above reminds me why feminism exists.
cannibalwombat4 m ago

Just realised this may be classed as a political thread. Prepare to …Just realised this may be classed as a political thread. Prepare to receive the deletion hammer.


Though you are engaging with the quality of the argument. I'd like more depth than this for my pennies!
I liked it better when they just burnt their bras
Edited by: "waterloo" 17th May
Equal opportunities not equal outcomes. That's what true feminism should be about.
mike203uk17 m ago

Though you are engaging with the quality of the argument. I'd like more …Though you are engaging with the quality of the argument. I'd like more depth than this for my pennies!


I don't understand your comment.
RickDoyle51 m ago

I'm always getting my comments deleted and told off by the powers that be. …I'm always getting my comments deleted and told off by the powers that be. How have you got away with this?


Maybe because their views are shared by many
Why isn't there just an nice middle ground? Somewhere where everyone can enjoy a nice cup of tea...
cannibalwombat1 h, 17 m ago

Or there there? LOL JK, but seriously it's 'hear hear' (abbreviated form …Or there there? LOL JK, but seriously it's 'hear hear' (abbreviated form of 'hear him, hear him' i.e. 'hear his argument because it's sensible'), not 'here here'.When anyone asks me if I'm a feminist, I alway ask what their definition of feminism is before I answer. Tends to irritate people, but there is not one incarnation; it's a spectrum from manifestly reasonable ideas to angry sexist nonsense. This also tends to include what the person's definition of equality is, which is also important.I am really worried about how willingly hard-left folks will slap people with labels such as 'sexist' or 'racist' or 'mysognynist' etc. if they dare to disagree with them or even challenge ideas. It's like the radical left have become the caricature of the far right. They shout very loudly and it's starting to pollute all public discourse. I just don't tend to see it in the opposite direction, but maybe that's my blinkers on or confirmation/selection bias.


The hard left all hate each other anyway.
I think it's important to remember the media seem to like this awful trope of PC, OTT unreasonable, bordering on hysterical women labelling themselves as feminists. It's always been like this but with the advent of the internet it seems to be worse. Everyone, everywhere (not just feminists) seem to jump on the "I'm offended" bandwagon and it's really boring now.

A case in point, this silly "feminist" (yes, I know it's the Daily Hate but that's how they described her) who was "offended" because a Portugese Immigration Officer said "she couldn't be Scottish, because Scottish women are ugly" (a rather clumsy and awful attempt at a compliment, but, of course, if you use some common sense, there's ugly people of all nationalities, it's all the genetic lottery). Btw, I'm Glaswegian and I actually found it quite amusing!

Sad to say, as she's a gay woman I doubt this is the worst comment she's ever heard in her life, so I'm not sure why she's banging a drum so loudly about it. Attention, maybe?

I love men, I get on better with guys in general than women. But as a female, of course I've met absolute twits. I've been groped and it's been unsolicited, I've dealt with sleazy comments, I've had guys follow me home (!) - not helping that this area was notorious for kerb crawlers years ago, but it's got better.

I grew up in a household where my mother's boyfriend (no way would I call him dad) would batter, control and patronise my mother, shout commands at her - and watch porn, LOUDLY in a house full of females (I have a younger sister) at night-times when we were trying to sleep (I think he used it as another "I'm in charge/I'm demeaning you all and getting a kick out of it", tool). Luckily he is no longer there - that's another long story and my emotional health really suffered living in that atmosphere for years - and beyond puberty I had no idea what sort of men I wanted, or even if they would be nice to me, because all I'd known was this monster.

My father? Let's just say he says all the right things but he doesn't really care.

I could go on, but it'd turn into a novel. I COULD hate men and be fearful of them, but I'm not. I have a wonderful brother (who, unbelievably is the spawn of that scumbag of a man), a boyfriend who supports me through my worst days and many other men who are just simply, lovely, decent people.

Women still have to deal with a lot of crap, it's just a fact. The sad thing is, the more reasonable and reasoned voices get lost in the hyperbole the media portrays.
cannibalwombat38 m ago

I don't understand your comment.



'it's a spectrum from manifestly reasonable ideas to angry sexist nonsense.' To an extent this is why the book lacks quality in terms of its argument - at least so far as I've read (about 40 pages). The author seems to be venting his spleen, which I suppose is true to a polemic. His understandable anger, however, detracts from rather than illuminates the issue. The main weakness is that - despite the use of historical examples - he puts forward an 'ahistorical' view. Sorry if that sounds pompous! It just happens to be a subject I take an interest in. I'm also an academic. Worth 2.99, well.... Mary Beard is flogging her book for 7.99 and it would take the average reader about two hours to get through and she doesn't really say that much. 'Angry nonsense' is probably more pertinent. I want more to a book about gender relations than anger....consideration, depth, insight would be preferable.
mike203uk8 m ago

I want more to a book about gender relations than anger....consideration, …I want more to a book about gender relations than anger....consideration, depth, insight would be preferable.


I would give it a read but I don't have a Kindle But yeah, anger is never a great place to begin from and it's the first card a person plays when they are (likely) not emotionally intelligent enough or articulate enough to work through their emotions and get to the root of them. Angry people don't resonate with me. I see anger, actually, as a sign of weakness. God knows I've witnessed enough anger from a male to last me a lifetime.

I haven't read a mass of so-called "feminist" books by any means, but I really loved "The Women's Room" by Marilyn French (very recommended). I tried reading Andrea Dworkin's work but I found her a bit too, well, crazy and, yeah, ANGRY for me to relate to her. Given that she was a gay woman too and I'm not, maybe that was also why I couldn't connect with her writing.

Anger doesn't bring people together, it just keeps them apart.
Edited by: "louiselouise" 17th May
Have people really not got better things to do with their time than get sucked into what is a synthetic, media-driven, pseudo-political argument?
Haha, got to love these people who advertise an ultra-conservative viewpoint as "radical anti-establishment".
doublespresso1 h, 18 m ago

Equal opportunities not equal outcomes. That's what true feminism should …Equal opportunities not equal outcomes. That's what true feminism should be about.


Today on the internet a man with womans breasts as his avatar told everyone what feminism should be about.
spatter46 m ago

Why isn't there just an nice middle ground? Somewhere where everyone can …Why isn't there just an nice middle ground? Somewhere where everyone can enjoy a nice cup of tea...


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Mrs Doyle can fix anything with tea
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louiselouise1 h, 27 m ago

I would give it a read but I don't have a Kindle


You don't need a kindle to read kindle ebooks -- just download Amazon's Kindle App for PC/Apple/Tablet from their website.
RickDoyle3 h, 6 m ago

I'm always getting my comments deleted and told off by the powers that be. …I'm always getting my comments deleted and told off by the powers that be. How have you got away with this?


I guess it won't be long. Lol
FrattonPark17th May

Maybe because their views are shared by many


I recall a similar defence was uttered at the Nuremberg trials...
RickDoyle2 h, 11 m ago

I recall a similar defence was uttered at the Nuremberg trials...


By whom? The collective defence, known as the Nuremberg defence, can be summarised as 'i was only following orders', not 'their views are shared by many'.

If you are going to invoke Godwin's law, at least try to do it properly.
spatter7 h, 42 m ago

Why isn't there just an nice middle ground? Somewhere where everyone can …Why isn't there just an nice middle ground? Somewhere where everyone can enjoy a nice cup of tea...


There is. It's "feminism" despite what a few extremists would have you believe
Josh.Rogan17th May

Today on the internet a man with womans breasts as his avatar told …Today on the internet a man with womans breasts as his avatar told everyone what feminism should be about.


Whether a person is a man or not has no bearing on their knowledge of feminism.
loonyboyx1 h, 28 m ago

There is. It's "feminism" despite what a few extremists would have you …There is. It's "feminism" despite what a few extremists would have you believe


It's such a shame that the genuine struggle for equality has been hijacked by a small minority of 'radical feminists', who are actually just sexists, and almost certainly do more harm than good to the actual cause.
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