Flash Sale Now Live  - 300 seats at £300 San Francisco Return Flights from Manchester @ Thomas Cook Airlines
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Flash Sale Now Live - 300 seats at £300 San Francisco Return Flights from Manchester @ Thomas Cook Airlines

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Found 14th Mar
Just a heads up that the 24 hour Flash sale to San Francisco starts 15th March midday (LA flights will also available) for May dates. Direct flights are from Manchester.

Prices will be £300 return and includes 23kg luggage and in flight meals


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The advertised price of £300 is per person for Thomas Cook Airlines return flights available on 300 return flights from Manchester to Los Angeles and San Francisco combined in Economy Class travelling in May 2018. This offer is available from 12pm (midday) on 15 March until 12pm (midday) on 16 March 18. Discounted flights are subject to limited availability. Prices are subject to change (up or down). Offer can be withdrawn without notice. Travel restrictions may apply depending on date and time of travel and departure airport. Booking Conditions apply. Flights are sold by Thomas Cook Airlines Ltd.

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Here's what I posted a few months ago for a similar deal on flights to California/San Francisco:

Good price but be prepared to spend a lot of money!

Been to California twice - 2012 and a month ago. Both times flying into SFO. You'll pay close to £100 per night throughout much of California for a reasonable but very BASIC room. If you want anything a bit nicer, count on £150+ and something nicer still £200+. In the cities or the more rural areas the prices are even more expensive. In San Francisco itself you'll pay £150+ for a reasonable (but still very basic) room. Expect to pay £250 minimum per night for a decent/nice room in a decent area.

It has got VERY expensive in the US generally, compared to what it used to be like. Been to Florida 9 times, California twice, Vegas, Miami and Washington/Virginia since 2001, and compared to our earlier trips, things are very pricey.

Examples: When we were there a month ago (September 2017), here are some prices of things we saw in Walmart (cheap supermarket - you won't generally get cheaper than Walmart);

Average loaf of bread - $3.50 (£2.70)
Gallon of milk (3.5lts - US Gallon) - $3+ (£2.40+)
Tub of Ice cream - $5 (£3.60 - for what we'd pay £2 or less for).
Box of 4 chocolate/blueberry muffins (the same type you'd get here in Tesco, Sainsburys, Asda etc.) - $4 to $5 (£3.10 to £4)
Family bag of crisps (one big bag) - $4 to $5 (£3.10 to £4)
Carton of Orange juice - $4+ (£3.10+)
Fruit - Really expensive - they grow it locally FFS!
Small bag of chocolate M&Ms - $5 (£3.80 - we'd pay about £1.50 for same size bag)

I could go on - check the prices of stuff online at Walmart or Target and you'll see how ridiculously expensive it has got. The worse thing was a platter of fresh fruit I saw. It was a domed platter about 12" across and about 8" high - freshly prepared fruit such as pineapple, orange, melon, grapefruit etc. Yes it looked very nice, but $20!! Jeepers, that's £15!!! We'd probably pay £5 or so for something like that here. AND THEY GROW ALL OF THOSE FRUITS IN CALIFORNIA!!! Don't forget that all these prices are NOT including sales tax at 12%!!

Eating out in restaurants? Look to pay $40 (£30) each for a reasonable 3 course meal in a run of the mill restaurant. A nicer restaurant - make that $60 each (£45). Plus tip of course of 20%. We got a KFC family bucket plus some other sides for $35 (£26) - you'd pay less than £20 here for the same. Burgers (McDonalds/Burgerking) - about the same as you'd pay here.

Fizzy drinks - a little more than you'd pay here for a bottle in a shop (like a 2 litre bottle of coke would cost you $2 to $2.50 - about £1.50 to £2), but a little bit cheaper than here in a petrol station/burger bar.

Alcohol - in bars/restaurants, a bit more than here but not massively more. Alcohol in shops - spirits probably 20-30% cheaper than here. Remember though, all of these prices need to be increased by 12% for sales tax.

The car hire was almost £600 for a mid size saloon for 2 weeks. Even a small economy car was almost £400 for 2 weeks. (Hertz/Alamo - both about the same), although we didn't book it until just a few days before so that probably drove up the price.

Seriously, almost everything is expensive in California (it was the same in Washington/Virginia in June this year). Some things were cheaper, such as cigarettes (about $4.50 upwards - about £3.40+) and petrol was around $3 (£2.30) per US gallon (3.5 litres instead of our 4.5 litres to a gallon) so it actually works out to be about 70p a litre - compared to our £1.20 here.

The US generally has got very expensive. If you're a smoker, you'll pay £12 to £15 per packet of cigarettes in New York! They actually have a major smuggling problem with people trafficking cigarettes from other nearby states (such as Virginia) by the truckload - they cost about $4 per pack in Virginia. Easy money for those that do this and almost impossible to stop.

And this time in California we came across far too many rude and arrogant yanks - no idea why but we experienced some incredibly rude hotel and shop staff! The one thing that came up almost every time we spoke to a yank was.........................................Trump! Everybody we spoke to hated him - they often began hyperventilating even talking about him (I suppose it should be expected as it's a heavily 'liberal' democratic state), with one elderly woman, who up until the point she brought him up, was so lovely and sweet - as soon as we got onto Trump, she was spitting feathers and eventually refused to talk about him any more and then stormed off! Now, WE didn't bring him up, they did - they wanted to know what a foreigner thought about him. The ONLY person that actually liked Trump was a copper at the Golden Gate bridge - I'm sure that tells you something.

Anyway, California is a great place to visit, with amazing scenery (this time we travelled almost 3,000 miles in 11 days) BUT it is very expensive and the people do seem to have an attitude.

Big Sur is sadly not open to visit at the moment. The pacific highway has suffered three pretty devastating landslide/rock falls in the last year or so meaning it has been closed for a significant length of the road. One bridge was totally destroyed and whilst they are trying to build a new one, it is not certain the road will EVER reopen. You can only drive so far before you have to turn round and go back. We tried to do this trek again and were pretty miffed. Although we went as far as we could, we had to turn back and all in all we travelled around 200 miles to get to the part closed, turn round and then take the main motorway down to pick up the road on the other side of the closure. I'm not sure how much of the highway 1 is closed but I think it's somewhere between 20 and 50 miles, possibly more. I suggest you check this out if you want to do it.

On this deal though, if the price is correct then it's a great deal. If you're prepared to spend a lot of money when there then go for it - California is great. I would however check out the seat pitch - we travelled upper class (wife works for an airline so a perk!) so it was nice (but still pretty tedious), but travelling for 11 hours in a small seat - no way would I personally do it!
Edited by: "Phila4" 15th Mar
The value on these flights is unbelievable. We visited New York earlier this year and flew with Thomas Cook, £300 return and then £320 for a week in a decent hotel not far from Central Park and Times Square. All in, it cost about £1400 for a week in NYC for the two of us including taxis, City Passes and eating out every night. Great value!

Definitely be grabbing some more flights tomorrow if we can, £300 return to the west coast is too good to miss!
Derek_Horatio_Shatwell6 h, 35 m ago

You haven't really grasped the concept of humour have you?Humourn1. the …You haven't really grasped the concept of humour have you?Humourn1. the quality of being funny2. Also called: sense of humour the ability to appreciate or express that which is humorous3. situations, speech, or writings that are thought to be humorous4. a. a state of mind; temper; moodb. (in combination): ill humour; good humour. 5. temperament or disposition6. a caprice or whim7. (Physiology) any of various fluids in the body, esp the aqueous humour and vitreous humour8. (Physiology) archaic Also called: cardinal humour any of the four bodily fluids (blood, phlegm, choler or yellow bile, melancholy or black bile) formerly thought to determine emotional and physical disposition9. out of humour in a bad moodvb (tr) 10. to attempt to gratify; indulge: he humoured the boy's whims. 11. to adapt oneself to: to humour someone's fantasies.


Oh the irony!!
Istanbul_Kop23 m ago

I went to San Francisco in the summer of 2016.It was a bit like Blackpool.



I agree they're very similar Especially the letters A, C and O
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Even he thinks that’s well cheap.
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The value on these flights is unbelievable. We visited New York earlier this year and flew with Thomas Cook, £300 return and then £320 for a week in a decent hotel not far from Central Park and Times Square. All in, it cost about £1400 for a week in NYC for the two of us including taxis, City Passes and eating out every night. Great value!

Definitely be grabbing some more flights tomorrow if we can, £300 return to the west coast is too good to miss!
Great find, OP! Super hot!!
Unfortunately, I am looking for flights to LA/San Francisco in August for two, which is going to cost me £1500+
LA or San Fransico? Any idea on the dates
So many holidays, so little time...

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I wonder if you can book an outward to SanFran and return from LA for this price? A trip along the Pacific Coast Highway in between.
This was posted in August last year....
A week after the flash sale, the prices were still the same...
So I booked us Thurs 28th Sep - MAN - SFO (San Fran)
And return on 4th Oct - LAX - MAN (Los Ang)
Total cost was £369. A super price!!!!!!
On the 21st Sep, I rang Thomas Cook to pay for seat choice (probably pointless given there was 2 of us, and the A330 has MANY x2 seat configs on left and right side of plane!).. Cost £25 each to SFO... But for the return, she sold us Prem Econ from LAX to MAN for £112 each..... I was happy with that!
Smag1 h, 2 m ago

I wonder if you can book an outward to SanFran and return from LA for this …I wonder if you can book an outward to SanFran and return from LA for this price? A trip along the Pacific Coast Highway in between.


Before planning this trip, check the road is open. Parts of it were closed when I wanted to do this route last year. (due to weather destroying some of the bridges!) it might be back to normal by the time you want to go.
Bestbitter2 h, 37 m ago

Great find, OP! Super hot!! Unfortunately, I am looking for flights …Great find, OP! Super hot!! Unfortunately, I am looking for flights to LA/San Francisco in August for two, which is going to cost me £1500+


We are flying from Manchester to San Francisco with TC in July and it is only costing us £2266 for 3 adults and 1 teenager (including named seats). We did book last autumn though, so I presume the prices have jumped significantly if it is now quoting £1500 for 2.
Edited by: "blowbrown" 14th Mar
I went to San Francisco in the summer of 2016.

It was a bit like Blackpool.
Istanbul_Kop23 m ago

I went to San Francisco in the summer of 2016.It was a bit like Blackpool.



I agree they're very similar Especially the letters A, C and O
Smag4 h, 21 m ago

I wonder if you can book an outward to SanFran and return from LA for this …I wonder if you can book an outward to SanFran and return from LA for this price? A trip along the Pacific Coast Highway in between.


do yourself a favour and go through the national parks instead. You'll get plenty of coastline too don't worry
iamprobably20 m ago

Where else can you get a burger for £1 and a blowjob for slightly …Where else can you get a burger for £1 and a blowjob for slightly more...??!


Yes but the American burgers are better
nikolidante39 m ago

Yes but the American burgers are better


So youre honestly suggesting that you fly all the way over there to get a $1 burger - and then all the way back - taxi to blackpool and hang atound north pier for a blow job from some skanky northerner...

It just makes no financial sense... you clearly haven’t thought this through. Use your noggin 🙄
Edited by: "iamprobably" 14th Mar
iamprobably1 h, 22 m ago

So youre honestly suggesting that you fly all the way over there to get a …So youre honestly suggesting that you fly all the way over there to get a $1 burger - and then all the way back - taxi to blackpool and hang atound north pier for a blow job from some skanky northerner...It just makes no financial sense... you clearly haven’t thought this through. Use your noggin 🙄



You haven't really grasped the concept of humour have you?

Humour
n
1.
the quality of being funny
2. Also called: sense of humour the ability to appreciate or express that which is humorous
3. situations, speech, or writings that are thought to be humorous
4. a. a state of mind; temper; mood
b. (in combination): ill humour; good humour.
5. temperament or disposition
6. a caprice or whim
7. (Physiology) any of various fluids in the body, esp the aqueous humour and vitreous humour
8. (Physiology) archaic Also called: cardinal humour any of the four bodily fluids (blood, phlegm, choler or yellow bile, melancholy or black bile) formerly thought to determine emotional and physical disposition
9. out of humour in a bad mood
vb (tr) 10. to attempt to gratify; indulge: he humoured the boy's whims.
11. to adapt oneself to: to humour someone's fantasies.

TC are really struddling to fill these SF flights.
Isle of Wight too Buxton via rail is £501 return.
Manchester to San Francisco,return via Air £300.....,any logic in this.
Get on board The SF and enjoy.
Derek_Horatio_Shatwell6 h, 35 m ago

You haven't really grasped the concept of humour have you?Humourn1. the …You haven't really grasped the concept of humour have you?Humourn1. the quality of being funny2. Also called: sense of humour the ability to appreciate or express that which is humorous3. situations, speech, or writings that are thought to be humorous4. a. a state of mind; temper; moodb. (in combination): ill humour; good humour. 5. temperament or disposition6. a caprice or whim7. (Physiology) any of various fluids in the body, esp the aqueous humour and vitreous humour8. (Physiology) archaic Also called: cardinal humour any of the four bodily fluids (blood, phlegm, choler or yellow bile, melancholy or black bile) formerly thought to determine emotional and physical disposition9. out of humour in a bad moodvb (tr) 10. to attempt to gratify; indulge: he humoured the boy's whims. 11. to adapt oneself to: to humour someone's fantasies.


Oh the irony!!
iamprobably10 h, 35 m ago

Where else can you get a burger for £1 and a blowjob for slightly …Where else can you get a burger for £1 and a blowjob for slightly more...??!


Have the burger afterwards to take the taste away
What's the weather like in May? I went San Fran last October and loved it and weather was warm with clear skies.
Bestbitter20 h, 27 m ago

Great find, OP! Super hot!! Unfortunately, I am looking for flights …Great find, OP! Super hot!! Unfortunately, I am looking for flights to LA/San Francisco in August for two, which is going to cost me £1500+


Look at flying return from Oslo/Stockholm/Gothenburg. I’ve flown Trans-Atlantic for half the price many times, by starting the journey from one of those cities. Cheap Ryanair flight out, and you’re still £100s up; albeit losing a few hours in hopping east to go west.
Hot! Managed to get on it
Stephen_Crosswell3 h, 39 m ago

What's the weather like in May? I went San Fran last October and loved it …What's the weather like in May? I went San Fran last October and loved it and weather was warm with clear skies.



Coming from the UK, the weather should be pleasant but it can be quite (relatively) chilly compared to the neighbouring parts of California. I lived in the East Bay area for a couple of years about 5 years ago. Could be 108F in Antioch but only 68F in SF.
Decent price but after flying with Thomas Cook to NYC, I don't think I could put up with the uncomfortable seats again!
Is it possible to get one way ticket for the price advertised £219?
before you run off & book... check out hotel prices first!
Here's what I posted a few months ago for a similar deal on flights to California/San Francisco:

Good price but be prepared to spend a lot of money!

Been to California twice - 2012 and a month ago. Both times flying into SFO. You'll pay close to £100 per night throughout much of California for a reasonable but very BASIC room. If you want anything a bit nicer, count on £150+ and something nicer still £200+. In the cities or the more rural areas the prices are even more expensive. In San Francisco itself you'll pay £150+ for a reasonable (but still very basic) room. Expect to pay £250 minimum per night for a decent/nice room in a decent area.

It has got VERY expensive in the US generally, compared to what it used to be like. Been to Florida 9 times, California twice, Vegas, Miami and Washington/Virginia since 2001, and compared to our earlier trips, things are very pricey.

Examples: When we were there a month ago (September 2017), here are some prices of things we saw in Walmart (cheap supermarket - you won't generally get cheaper than Walmart);

Average loaf of bread - $3.50 (£2.70)
Gallon of milk (3.5lts - US Gallon) - $3+ (£2.40+)
Tub of Ice cream - $5 (£3.60 - for what we'd pay £2 or less for).
Box of 4 chocolate/blueberry muffins (the same type you'd get here in Tesco, Sainsburys, Asda etc.) - $4 to $5 (£3.10 to £4)
Family bag of crisps (one big bag) - $4 to $5 (£3.10 to £4)
Carton of Orange juice - $4+ (£3.10+)
Fruit - Really expensive - they grow it locally FFS!
Small bag of chocolate M&Ms - $5 (£3.80 - we'd pay about £1.50 for same size bag)

I could go on - check the prices of stuff online at Walmart or Target and you'll see how ridiculously expensive it has got. The worse thing was a platter of fresh fruit I saw. It was a domed platter about 12" across and about 8" high - freshly prepared fruit such as pineapple, orange, melon, grapefruit etc. Yes it looked very nice, but $20!! Jeepers, that's £15!!! We'd probably pay £5 or so for something like that here. AND THEY GROW ALL OF THOSE FRUITS IN CALIFORNIA!!! Don't forget that all these prices are NOT including sales tax at 12%!!

Eating out in restaurants? Look to pay $40 (£30) each for a reasonable 3 course meal in a run of the mill restaurant. A nicer restaurant - make that $60 each (£45). Plus tip of course of 20%. We got a KFC family bucket plus some other sides for $35 (£26) - you'd pay less than £20 here for the same. Burgers (McDonalds/Burgerking) - about the same as you'd pay here.

Fizzy drinks - a little more than you'd pay here for a bottle in a shop (like a 2 litre bottle of coke would cost you $2 to $2.50 - about £1.50 to £2), but a little bit cheaper than here in a petrol station/burger bar.

Alcohol - in bars/restaurants, a bit more than here but not massively more. Alcohol in shops - spirits probably 20-30% cheaper than here. Remember though, all of these prices need to be increased by 12% for sales tax.

The car hire was almost £600 for a mid size saloon for 2 weeks. Even a small economy car was almost £400 for 2 weeks. (Hertz/Alamo - both about the same), although we didn't book it until just a few days before so that probably drove up the price.

Seriously, almost everything is expensive in California (it was the same in Washington/Virginia in June this year). Some things were cheaper, such as cigarettes (about $4.50 upwards - about £3.40+) and petrol was around $3 (£2.30) per US gallon (3.5 litres instead of our 4.5 litres to a gallon) so it actually works out to be about 70p a litre - compared to our £1.20 here.

The US generally has got very expensive. If you're a smoker, you'll pay £12 to £15 per packet of cigarettes in New York! They actually have a major smuggling problem with people trafficking cigarettes from other nearby states (such as Virginia) by the truckload - they cost about $4 per pack in Virginia. Easy money for those that do this and almost impossible to stop.

And this time in California we came across far too many rude and arrogant yanks - no idea why but we experienced some incredibly rude hotel and shop staff! The one thing that came up almost every time we spoke to a yank was.........................................Trump! Everybody we spoke to hated him - they often began hyperventilating even talking about him (I suppose it should be expected as it's a heavily 'liberal' democratic state), with one elderly woman, who up until the point she brought him up, was so lovely and sweet - as soon as we got onto Trump, she was spitting feathers and eventually refused to talk about him any more and then stormed off! Now, WE didn't bring him up, they did - they wanted to know what a foreigner thought about him. The ONLY person that actually liked Trump was a copper at the Golden Gate bridge - I'm sure that tells you something.

Anyway, California is a great place to visit, with amazing scenery (this time we travelled almost 3,000 miles in 11 days) BUT it is very expensive and the people do seem to have an attitude.

Big Sur is sadly not open to visit at the moment. The pacific highway has suffered three pretty devastating landslide/rock falls in the last year or so meaning it has been closed for a significant length of the road. One bridge was totally destroyed and whilst they are trying to build a new one, it is not certain the road will EVER reopen. You can only drive so far before you have to turn round and go back. We tried to do this trek again and were pretty miffed. Although we went as far as we could, we had to turn back and all in all we travelled around 200 miles to get to the part closed, turn round and then take the main motorway down to pick up the road on the other side of the closure. I'm not sure how much of the highway 1 is closed but I think it's somewhere between 20 and 50 miles, possibly more. I suggest you check this out if you want to do it.

On this deal though, if the price is correct then it's a great deal. If you're prepared to spend a lot of money when there then go for it - California is great. I would however check out the seat pitch - we travelled upper class (wife works for an airline so a perk!) so it was nice (but still pretty tedious), but travelling for 11 hours in a small seat - no way would I personally do it!
Edited by: "Phila4" 15th Mar
tank8619 h, 43 m ago

Before planning this trip, check the road is open. Parts of it were closed …Before planning this trip, check the road is open. Parts of it were closed when I wanted to do this route last year. (due to weather destroying some of the bridges!) it might be back to normal by the time you want to go.


Big Sur is likely to still be closed until the end of Summer due the Landslide.
Didn't seem that pricey when we went in 2016 to LA in August.
Phila412 m ago

Good price but be prepared to spend a lot of money!


exactly that.

Im averaging $200 a night for a planned trip in june to Napa, Tahoe, Yosemite & SF.
Add on a trip on the Wine Train, Dinner on Tahoe, Trip to Alcatraz, etc.
Car hire is £250 for me as I will hand it back in SF to avoid the stupid $50+ daily parking charges.
The 12-14% tax is going to annoy the F out of me & then they expect a 20% tip on top!
With spending money etc. Im expecting the trip to have cost at least £5k
Edited by: "bojangles" 15th Mar
Was about to pull the pin on this, as its been pipe dream for years and I would love to do it with the teens as a California drive and hike thing, but looks like big sure and Yosemite have issues (accommodation is booked up in may dates). I think may is a busy time there maybe.

Thanks for the posts above - indeed, California/boston/florida/newyork all seem WAY expensive now compared to a few years back. I recall my first trip to NY in 2000 cost £175 RETURN for each of the 4 of us! Now you are paying CONCORDE prices. Sure its 18yrs later but still..... £175 wouldn't buy you a dunkin donut in Manhattan these days.
bojangles10 m ago

Big Sur is likely to still be closed until the end of Summer due the …Big Sur is likely to still be closed until the end of Summer due the Landslide.



Possibly longer. There were doubts whether they'd actually be able to build a replacement bridge, and further down the coast there were further mudslides.

Latest updates available HERE



HIGHWAY 1 UPDATE – Monday, March 12


State Route 1 in Monterey County remains closed from north of Salmon Creek, just south of the Ranger Station (PM 3) to just south of Gorda (PM 10) due to the Mud Creek slide. State Route 1 south of Salmon Creek is accessible via State Route 1 in San Luis Obispo County near Ragged Point.

REMINDER: Travelers still CANNOT access the entire length of Highway 1 from Carmel to Cambria but local businesses are open on both sides of Mud Creek.

Mud Creek (PM 8.9)

Mud Creek had a major slide on Saturday, May 20, 2017, losing over 5 million cubic yards of material. Caltrans continues with its plan to realign the existing terrain with the projected timeline to safely open to public traffic is late-summer 2018 at an estimated cost of $40 million.

This week: The same ongoing operations continue: placing rock at the toe, building up the north fill, and excavating material below the new alignment to finished grade.

There is currently no public/local access through the Mud Creek area since this remains an active, emergency construction zone.

Paul’s Slide (PM 21.6)

Paul’s Slide is still active but the 24/7 traffic signal remains in place and temporary guardrail (k-rail) in the centerline.

Pfeiffer Canyon Bridge [PCB] (PM 45.52)

1.) Final work continues. Roadwork at Pfeiffer Canyon Bridge consists of alternating lane closures from 7 am to 4 pm Mondays through Thursdays and 7 am to 2 pm on Fridays until work is complete. Project is completed with only a few final items remaining including installing additional fence panels, installing flange protection devices. Project expected to fully complete by the end of March, weather permitting.

ADDITIONAL WORK—CALPORTLAND PAVING BETWEEN LUCIA (PM 23) AND JUST SOUTH OF PCB (45.52)

Metal Beam Guardrail (MBGR) end treatment work at Castro Canyon (PM 43.12) and slope work along project limits is scheduled to take place in early Spring, weather permitting.

Caltrans reminds motorists to move over and slow down when driving through highway work zones.

The next update will be on Monday, March 19

Susana Z. Cruz
Caltrans District 5

Public Information Officer
bojangles24 m ago

before you run off & book... check out hotel prices first!



Yep - circa £200+ in sanfrancisco currently for decent digs. Having said that, if you haven't been, you can EASILY get around with a bit of planning and walking/trams. Including the cool 1920's style trams (not the classic 1900's ones, but more like fancy deco trains). In short, there is a big hill in the middle of the city to traverse but as the crow flies its not too bad and reasonably compact.

My tip --- we stayed in Fishermans wharf area, which is great, and hired bikes at the local store and rode around the entire bay past presidio..e.tc.. then OVER the golden gate bridge (which is amazing), then down the other side of the bridge to a downward stretch of hill to Sausilito which is a small yachting town on the other side of the bay. Takes about 1/2day solid leisurely riding, then stop of lunch there and get the ferry back across the bay (seeing Alcatrazfrom the ferry) with your bike, then a short ride on the bay back to fishermans wharf. That's the nutshell but investigate it a bit , brilliant as long as you have no mist or wind on the day and quite casual. Various outfits promote this route and others - e.g. blazingsaddles.com/san…ron

The latter being another issue : San Fran is notorious for its mist and fog days in may.
Edited by: "skeeter909" 15th Mar
bojangles25 m ago

exactly that.Im averaging $200 a night for a planned trip in june to Napa, …exactly that.Im averaging $200 a night for a planned trip in june to Napa, Tahoe, Yosemite & SF.Add on a trip on the Wine Train, Dinner on Tahoe, Trip to Alcatraz, etc.Car hire is £250 for me as I will hand it back in SF to avoid the stupid $50+ daily parking charges.The 12-14% tax is going to annoy the F out of me & then they expect a 20% tip on top!With spending money etc. Im expecting the trip to have cost at least £5k



Yep. We found that in SF - if you want a hotel with parking, you pay a lot more for the hotel so you save little. Many hotels with "parking" is actually valet parking, and usually off site, so they charge you anyway. We did find some more reasonable hotels south of San Francisco where you could park for free and get the train into SF. I think it was in or around Daly City, but not 100% sure. I do know it was on the main rail line from the airport to SF so I'd check out hotels along the route if you're prepared to journey into and out of SF.

I'm sure you know but you have to buy Alcatraz tickets in advance and usually you can't get them for less than 3-5 days as they're usually sold out.

Yosemite is great, BUT be prepared for some hair-raising driving in places where the roads bend. On the whole they don't have barriers on most of the mountain roads which I found unbelievable! We cycle down Teide in Tenerife and they have barriers in all of the dangerous places, and even some that really aren't dodgy at all. But California? Bearing in mind their litigious nature and H&S overload, I couldn't believe they didn't have barriers in most of the dangerous parts. Also, go easy on the brakes coming back down - use your gears to slow down as much as possible. We hired a Grand Voyager (Dodge Caravan over there) and our brakes gave out half way down and we ended up about 12' from a 2000ft drop! It took all my strength and skill to bring the car to a halt. The car didn't help as they're so heavy. I can't even remember what I did, I just know that a conversation I had earlier that day with a shopkeeper on the way up to Yosemite helped as she warned us about brakes. I'd suggest you use a few of the pull in places and take in the views on the way down to let your brakes cool a bit.

Yosemite is around 9,000-10,000ft ASL and if travelling west to east, when you leave Yosemite you end up going further uphill, which really surprised us. We just kept going up and up and up and eventually got to I think 13,400ft ASL before finally going downhill. At that altitude your breathing is affected and so is your car - it needs plenty of air/oxygen to function normally, so it does struggle and you'll think the car is clapping out for a while! Lastly, it can get quite cold up there in Yosemite so be prepared. Enjoy your trip!
Stephen_Crosswell4 h, 35 m ago

What's the weather like in May? I went San Fran last October and loved it …What's the weather like in May? I went San Fran last October and loved it and weather was warm with clear skies.


I got fairly sunburnt at the end of May in 2013, but then was cold at the same time last year.
Phila425 m ago

Yep. We found that in SF - if you want a hotel with parking, you pay a …Yep. We found that in SF - if you want a hotel with parking, you pay a lot more for the hotel


& a private bathroom!
Phila41 h, 30 m ago

Here's what I posted a few months ago for a similar deal on flights to …Here's what I posted a few months ago for a similar deal on flights to California/San Francisco:Good price but be prepared to spend a lot of money! Been to California twice - 2012 and a month ago. Both times flying into SFO. You'll pay close to £100 per night throughout much of California for a reasonable but very BASIC room. If you want anything a bit nicer, count on £150+ and something nicer still £200+. In the cities or the more rural areas the prices are even more expensive. In San Francisco itself you'll pay £150+ for a reasonable (but still very basic) room. Expect to pay £250 minimum per night for a decent/nice room in a decent area.It has got VERY expensive in the US generally, compared to what it used to be like. Been to Florida 9 times, California twice, Vegas, Miami and Washington/Virginia since 2001, and compared to our earlier trips, things are very pricey. Examples: When we were there a month ago (September 2017), here are some prices of things we saw in Walmart (cheap supermarket - you won't generally get cheaper than Walmart);Average loaf of bread - $3.50 (£2.70)Gallon of milk (3.5lts - US Gallon) - $3+ (£2.40+)Tub of Ice cream - $5 (£3.60 - for what we'd pay £2 or less for).Box of 4 chocolate/blueberry muffins (the same type you'd get here in Tesco, Sainsburys, Asda etc.) - $4 to $5 (£3.10 to £4)Family bag of crisps (one big bag) - $4 to $5 (£3.10 to £4)Carton of Orange juice - $4+ (£3.10+)Fruit - Really expensive - they grow it locally FFS!Small bag of chocolate M&Ms - $5 (£3.80 - we'd pay about £1.50 for same size bag)I could go on - check the prices of stuff online at Walmart or Target and you'll see how ridiculously expensive it has got. The worse thing was a platter of fresh fruit I saw. It was a domed platter about 12" across and about 8" high - freshly prepared fruit such as pineapple, orange, melon, grapefruit etc. Yes it looked very nice, but $20!! Jeepers, that's £15!!! We'd probably pay £5 or so for something like that here. AND THEY GROW ALL OF THOSE FRUITS IN CALIFORNIA!!! Don't forget that all these prices are NOT including sales tax at 12%!!Eating out in restaurants? Look to pay $40 (£30) each for a reasonable 3 course meal in a run of the mill restaurant. A nicer restaurant - make that $60 each (£45). Plus tip of course of 20%. We got a KFC family bucket plus some other sides for $35 (£26) - you'd pay less than £20 here for the same. Burgers (McDonalds/Burgerking) - about the same as you'd pay here.Fizzy drinks - a little more than you'd pay here for a bottle in a shop (like a 2 litre bottle of coke would cost you $2 to $2.50 - about £1.50 to £2), but a little bit cheaper than here in a petrol station/burger bar. Alcohol - in bars/restaurants, a bit more than here but not massively more. Alcohol in shops - spirits probably 20-30% cheaper than here. Remember though, all of these prices need to be increased by 12% for sales tax.The car hire was almost £600 for a mid size saloon for 2 weeks. Even a small economy car was almost £400 for 2 weeks. (Hertz/Alamo - both about the same), although we didn't book it until just a few days before so that probably drove up the price.Seriously, almost everything is expensive in California (it was the same in Washington/Virginia in June this year). Some things were cheaper, such as cigarettes (about $4.50 upwards - about £3.40+) and petrol was around $3 (£2.30) per US gallon (3.5 litres instead of our 4.5 litres to a gallon) so it actually works out to be about 70p a litre - compared to our £1.20 here.The US generally has got very expensive. If you're a smoker, you'll pay £12 to £15 per packet of cigarettes in New York! They actually have a major smuggling problem with people trafficking cigarettes from other nearby states (such as Virginia) by the truckload - they cost about $4 per pack in Virginia. Easy money for those that do this and almost impossible to stop.And this time in California we came across far too many rude and arrogant yanks - no idea why but we experienced some incredibly rude hotel and shop staff! The one thing that came up almost every time we spoke to a yank was.........................................Trump! Everybody we spoke to hated him - they often began hyperventilating even talking about him (I suppose it should be expected as it's a heavily 'liberal' democratic state), with one elderly woman, who up until the point she brought him up, was so lovely and sweet - as soon as we got onto Trump, she was spitting feathers and eventually refused to talk about him any more and then stormed off! Now, WE didn't bring him up, they did - they wanted to know what a foreigner thought about him. The ONLY person that actually liked Trump was a copper at the Golden Gate bridge - I'm sure that tells you something. Anyway, California is a great place to visit, with amazing scenery (this time we travelled almost 3,000 miles in 11 days) BUT it is very expensive and the people do seem to have an attitude.Big Sur is sadly not open to visit at the moment. The pacific highway has suffered three pretty devastating landslide/rock falls in the last year or so meaning it has been closed for a significant length of the road. One bridge was totally destroyed and whilst they are trying to build a new one, it is not certain the road will EVER reopen. You can only drive so far before you have to turn round and go back. We tried to do this trek again and were pretty miffed. Although we went as far as we could, we had to turn back and all in all we travelled around 200 miles to get to the part closed, turn round and then take the main motorway down to pick up the road on the other side of the closure. I'm not sure how much of the highway 1 is closed but I think it's somewhere between 20 and 50 miles, possibly more. I suggest you check this out if you want to do it.On this deal though, if the price is correct then it's a great deal. If you're prepared to spend a lot of money when there then go for it - California is great. I would however check out the seat pitch - we travelled upper class (wife works for an airline so a perk!) so it was nice (but still pretty tedious), but travelling for 11 hours in a small seat - no way would I personally do it!


I was going to consider this until I read yours and others comments, now I definitely am not, £200 for a night in a hotel, even with a big breakfast that is outrageous.I thought it was bad enough when I went to NY 2 years ago but these prices it's no wonder that TC are having difficulty shifting the flights. Now where's the Qatar Airways web site?
So where is cheap and cheerful in the USA?

I took advantage of this offer last time round but am now thinking it will cost a fortune!
Singapore airlines is a similar price btw
Was so excited about going to San Francisco. It was a huge disappointment. It felt like I was still at home, it was no different to any of our own UK seaside towns. The weather was probably worse too, very cold even in the summer. The tourist attractions are obviouslywell worth it though like Alcatraz, Muir Woods etc. However I wouldn’t stay in San Fransico, stay in Sausalito Bay where it is a lot prettier and much warmer.
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