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Posted 27th Apr 2018
Nobody probably cares but flav drops are currently 241. Deal is stated on the website but it is not meant to discount the stevia ones. However upon selecting them it still goes through at the discounted price. Add a nice flavour to your shakes ?? 2932366.jpg2932366.jpg

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Why is it not meant to discount the stevia ones?
Tests on stevia show it doesn't spike insulin like aspartame (body reacts to it as if it is actual sugar) and the likes can, so definitely go for stevia. Aspartimine is really bad for gut microbiome too.
MadeInBeats28/04/2018 10:38

Tests on stevia show it doesn't spike insulin like aspartame (body reacts …Tests on stevia show it doesn't spike insulin like aspartame (body reacts to it as if it is actual sugar) and the likes can, so definitely go for stevia. Aspartimine is really bad for gut microbiome too.


Aspartame doesn't spike my insulin at all unless I use granulated Canderel. That's only because it's bulked with maltodextrin. A lot of foods are bad for gut bacteria, especially effecting Gherlin.
Great deal, many thanks!
Smadmad3 m ago

Aspartame doesn't spike my insulin at all unless I use granulated …Aspartame doesn't spike my insulin at all unless I use granulated Canderel. That's only because it's bulked with maltodextrin. A lot of foods are bad for gut bacteria, especially effecting Gherlin.


Lab tests prove it does.
Oh so my blood testing meter is lying? The fact I'm in ketosis as well proves it too.
Might be a stupid question, but does anyone if this can be vaped? Heat added
Ohhh, I care.
Smadmad28/04/2018 10:56

Oh so my blood testing meter is lying? The fact I'm in ketosis as well …Oh so my blood testing meter is lying? The fact I'm in ketosis as well proves it too.


It must be. Ketosis is more about the carbs not being used as a fuel source more than insulin in itself. You still spike insulin on LCHF diet, just not as much. Don't put too much trust in home testing kits.
Edited by: "MadeInBeats" 28th Apr 2018
I bought the stevia version of these before, I always take stevia with tea & coffee, unfortunately the flavour was soooo weak - I had to add 10 or so drops to get any sort of flavour but then my drink became way too over-sweet and I really didn’t feel it was healthy adding this much. I had to go back to the sucralose version (just 3 drops needed) unforch.

I’m looking for stevia flavouring recommendations from any other brand if anyone can suggest any please?
Can this be added to coffee as flavouring?
MadeInBeats28/04/2018 12:47

It must be. Ketosis is more about the carbs not being used as a fuel …It must be. Ketosis is more about the carbs not being used as a fuel source more than insulin in itself. You still spike insulin on LCHF diet, just not as much. Don't put too much trust in home testing kits.


Insulin suppresses ketone production, so if aspartame spiked insulin my ketone levels would drop. They don't. I use the same tester a diabetic would use and my particular model is recommended by various diabetic associations.
Smadmad28/04/2018 13:03

Insulin suppresses ketone production, so if aspartame spiked insulin my …Insulin suppresses ketone production, so if aspartame spiked insulin my ketone levels would drop. They don't. I use the same tester a diabetic would use and my particular model is recommended by various diabetic associations.



MadeInBeats28/04/2018 13:17

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I have no need to watch that. I know how my body reacts to aspartame, regardless of what studies say.
Smadmad58 m ago

I have no need to watch that. I know how my body reacts to aspartame, …I have no need to watch that. I know how my body reacts to aspartame, regardless of what studies say.


Right you are.
MadeInBeats28/04/2018 13:17

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Youtube and one cranky Doctor is worthless as real evidence, whereas a proper dual blind peer reviewed study might convince me a little more, even though my body does not react to Aspartame either; (and being insulin resistant everything with carbs in it does) but I have yet to see one that confirms this often repeated homespun theory.

Studies that show it does not impact, on the contrary are easy to find, eg. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pub…147
Never heard of this until now.
nihcaj28/04/2018 16:16

Youtube and one cranky Doctor is worthless as real evidence, whereas a …Youtube and one cranky Doctor is worthless as real evidence, whereas a proper dual blind peer reviewed study might convince me a little more, even though my body does not react to Aspartame either; (and being insulin resistant everything with carbs in it does) but I have yet to see one that confirms this often repeated homespun theory.Studies that show it does not impact, on the contrary are easy to find, eg. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3522147


Stevia is just the all around safer choice with it being natural. There are studies which show the damage aspartame does to the gut, which then in turn leads to weight gain and probably has many other health implications.
MadeInBeats28/04/2018 18:06

Stevia is just the all around safer choice with it being natural. There …Stevia is just the all around safer choice with it being natural. There are studies which show the damage aspartame does to the gut, which then in turn leads to weight gain and probably has many other health implications.


So give us an example then!

Plenty of "natural" products are toxic, and the word "natural" is a bit irrelevant anyway when applied to a highly processed substance such as Stevia - often extracted using methanol... itself a toxic substance!
nihcaj29/04/2018 08:27

So give us an example then!Plenty of "natural" products are toxic, and the …So give us an example then!Plenty of "natural" products are toxic, and the word "natural" is a bit irrelevant anyway when applied to a highly processed substance such as Stevia - often extracted using methanol... itself a toxic substance!


Dude, stop... stevia is better for you lol. End of discussion.
Stevia is the better choice but stevia is very very processed as well. Aspartame does not increase insulin levels but it does cause more cravings. You are better having a natural sugar than any other sweetener in all honesty but stevia is a good choice. The sucralose ones are nice and strong I agree, a few drops and you are away ha
Also I forgot to add that aspartame is not actually harmful unless you have a hell of a lot. If you consume 16 odd cans of coke per day then you are having too much. A little bit a day is completely fine. It is one of the most studied today and it still gets deemed as safe as long as you don’t go over the recommended allowance
Craig5128647 m ago

Stevia is the better choice but stevia is very very processed as well. …Stevia is the better choice but stevia is very very processed as well. Aspartame does not increase insulin levels but it does cause more cravings. You are better having a natural sugar than any other sweetener in all honesty but stevia is a good choice. The sucralose ones are nice and strong I agree, a few drops and you are away ha


I agree stevia is the better choice. Just be careful what brand you use, as a lot are bulked with ethytirol. Truvia for example.
That is just as bad as aspartame.
MadeInBeats29/04/2018 09:02

Dude, stop... stevia is better for you lol. End of discussion.


One thing this site is not noted for, reasonsed discussion.
nihcaj29/04/2018 19:12

One thing this site is not noted for, reasonsed discussion.


2017 : ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pub…797


The existing animal studies and the limited human studies suggest that aspartame and its metabolites, whether consumed in quantities significantly higher than the recommended safe dosage or within recommended safe levels, may disrupt the oxidant/antioxidant balance, induce oxidative stress, and damage cell membrane integrity, potentially affecting a variety of cells and tissues and causing a deregulation of cellular function, ultimately leading to systemic inflammation.



newscientist.com/art…er/

IAP works by neutralising lipopolysaccharides, bacterial toxins that can irritate the gut lining. But when Hodin’s team mixed IAP with drinks that contain aspartame in the lab, it blunted the enzyme’s activity. This didn’t happen when it was mixed with sugary drinks instead.

When the team injected aspartame into segments of mouse intestine, levels of IAP plummeted by 50 per cent.

Weight Gain
The team also found evidence that, when consumed in combination with a fatty diet, aspartame may lead to greater weight gain in mice. When the group fed mice a high-fat diet for 18 weeks, those that were also given aspartame put on more weight than those that weren’t.

Mice fed aspartame also had higher blood sugar levels between meals. Failure to soak up excess blood sugar is an early sign of diabetes, and this was seen in aspartame-fed mice that received a normal-fat diet too.


@Craig51286@Smadmad
Edited by: "MadeInBeats" 29th Apr 2018
MadeInBeats29/04/2018 19:33

2017 : https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28938797The existing animal …2017 : https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28938797The existing animal studies and the limited human studies suggest that aspartame and its metabolites, whether consumed in quantities significantly higher than the recommended safe dosage or within recommended safe levels, may disrupt the oxidant/antioxidant balance, induce oxidative stress, and damage cell membrane integrity, potentially affecting a variety of cells and tissues and causing a deregulation of cellular function, ultimately leading to systemic inflammation.https://www.newscientist.com/article/2114043-why-diet-drinks-with-aspartame-may-actually-help-make-you-fatter/IAP works by neutralising lipopolysaccharides, bacterial toxins that can irritate the gut lining. But when Hodin’s team mixed IAP with drinks that contain aspartame in the lab, it blunted the enzyme’s activity. This didn’t happen when it was mixed with sugary drinks instead.When the team injected aspartame into segments of mouse intestine, levels of IAP plummeted by 50 per cent.Weight GainThe team also found evidence that, when consumed in combination with a fatty diet, aspartame may lead to greater weight gain in mice. When the group fed mice a high-fat diet for 18 weeks, those that were also given aspartame put on more weight than those that weren’t.Mice fed aspartame also had higher blood sugar levels between meals. Failure to soak up excess blood sugar is an early sign of diabetes, and this was seen in aspartame-fed mice that received a normal-fat diet too.@Craig51286 @Smadmad


Last time I checked I wasn't a mouse.

Fact I used to weigh 17st @ over 30% body
fat. High simple carb diet. Classed as pre diabetic

Fact I now weigh 14st 9lb with 12% body fat. I consume aspartame everyday. And no longer pre diabetic.

Fact I have tested insulin level after consuming aspartame and has no effect on my insulin.

Fact I have read various studies and they are conflicting.
Smadmad29/04/2018 19:54

Last time I checked I wasn't a mouse.Fact I used to weigh 17st @ over 30% …Last time I checked I wasn't a mouse.Fact I used to weigh 17st @ over 30% body fat. High simple carb diet. Classed as pre diabeticFact I now weigh 14st 9lb with 12% body fat. I consume aspartame everyday. And no longer pre diabetic.Fact I have tested insulin level after consuming aspartame and has no effect on my insulin.Fact I have read various studies and they are conflicting.


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Smadmad29/04/2018 20:00

Exactly how I feel listening to u



Addiction.

Evidence suggests the compounds that make up aspartame alter your dopamine system causing you to crave more of this sweetener.

Aspartame also activates the food reward pathway in your brain, but because it supplied no calories, your body still hungers for calories and more sweetness.

It causes you to crave more calories to provide energy to your cells and activate the food reward pathway again, which means you’ll be reaching for another diet soda or dose of aspartame.

Its sweet flavor leaves you in a cycle of craving more sweets according to a 2010 article in Yale Journal of Biology and Medicine.


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MadeInBeats29/04/2018 20:07

Addiction.Evidence suggests the compounds that make up aspartame alter …Addiction.Evidence suggests the compounds that make up aspartame alter your dopamine system causing you to crave more of this sweetener. Aspartame also activates the food reward pathway in your brain, but because it supplied no calories, your body still hungers for calories and more sweetness. It causes you to crave more calories to provide energy to your cells and activate the food reward pathway again, which means you’ll be reaching for another diet soda or dose of aspartame. Its sweet flavor leaves you in a cycle of craving more sweets according to a 2010 article in Yale Journal of Biology and Medicine.[Image]


Like sugar. The same could be said for stevia based on what your are saying.
Smadmad20 m ago

Like sugar. The same could be said for stevia based on what your are …Like sugar. The same could be said for stevia based on what your are saying.


Maybe, and maybe not. But so far stevia is better for you than aspartame... you even said so yourself above!

But you shouldn't be consuming either of them on a daily basis... you have to break the mental addiction. I used to eat Haribos and all kinds, but after a year following keto, eating stuff like that feels like I'm putting poison in my body now, because I am. The keto diet helped me to recalibrate my body and mind.

I had a can of Pepsi Max last night with some rum... that happens maybe once a month - often longer. Sugar or sweeteners are certainly not part of my daily diet... putting man-made chemicals into your body is not wise, at least stevia is derived from a natural substance, so better metabolised and doesn't cause inflammation or mess with the healthy bacteria in your gut lining.
MadeInBeats29/04/2018 19:33

2017 : https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28938797The existing animal …2017 : https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28938797The existing animal studies and the limited human studies suggest that aspartame and its metabolites, whether consumed in quantities significantly higher than the recommended safe dosage or within recommended safe levels, may disrupt the oxidant/antioxidant balance, induce oxidative stress, and damage cell membrane integrity, potentially affecting a variety of cells and tissues and causing a deregulation of cellular function, ultimately leading to systemic inflammation.https://www.newscientist.com/article/2114043-why-diet-drinks-with-aspartame-may-actually-help-make-you-fatter/IAP works by neutralising lipopolysaccharides, bacterial toxins that can irritate the gut lining. But when Hodin’s team mixed IAP with drinks that contain aspartame in the lab, it blunted the enzyme’s activity. This didn’t happen when it was mixed with sugary drinks instead.When the team injected aspartame into segments of mouse intestine, levels of IAP plummeted by 50 per cent.Weight GainThe team also found evidence that, when consumed in combination with a fatty diet, aspartame may lead to greater weight gain in mice. When the group fed mice a high-fat diet for 18 weeks, those that were also given aspartame put on more weight than those that weren’t.Mice fed aspartame also had higher blood sugar levels between meals. Failure to soak up excess blood sugar is an early sign of diabetes, and this was seen in aspartame-fed mice that received a normal-fat diet too.@Craig51286 @Smadmad


Mice, not men
nihcaj29/04/2018 22:39

Mice, not men


So basically any excuse to ignore studies and carry on being addicted. One thing this site is not noted for, reasoned discussion.
MadeInBeats30/04/2018 08:51

So basically any excuse to ignore studies and carry on being addicted. One …So basically any excuse to ignore studies and carry on being addicted. One thing this site is not noted for, reasoned discussion.


So many examples of animal studies not being mirrored in humans. If this supposed problem is so universal, it is strange it is not massivelyy well documented.
MadeInBeats2 h, 33 m ago

So basically any excuse to ignore studies and carry on being addicted. One …So basically any excuse to ignore studies and carry on being addicted. One thing this site is not noted for, reasoned discussion.


eg. lushprize.org/wp-…pdf
nihcaj30/04/2018 11:24

So many examples of animal studies not being mirrored in humans. If this …So many examples of animal studies not being mirrored in humans. If this supposed problem is so universal, it is strange it is not massivelyy well documented.


I know, testing on mice is pointless and proves absolutely nothing. Have a bowl of aspartame.
Who are you trying to convince? Because if it's me, you're wasting your time lol. Good luck with that
MadeInBeats30/04/2018 12:17

I know, testing on mice is pointless and proves absolutely nothing. Have a …I know, testing on mice is pointless and proves absolutely nothing. Have a bowl of aspartame. Who are you trying to convince? Because if it's me, you're wasting your time lol. Good luck with that


No, I know I am wasting my time with you, I Don't' care, it's other people who might understand the concept of evidence I am posting it for!
nihcaj1 h, 23 m ago

No, I know I am wasting my time with you, I Don't' care, it's other people …No, I know I am wasting my time with you, I Don't' care, it's other people who might understand the concept of evidence I am posting it for!


What concept is that? The one where when science gives you the answer you want it's legit, but when it shows something you don't like, science is 'a bit dodgy'.
Nothing is good in high doses, too much water we would die. Too much of anything is bad for you. What you think is natural is not natural anymore. Red meat is bad for you when it’s the most nutritious thing you can eat. Thing is you can pretty much consume anything in the right amounts. Keto is not a place I want to be, Low carb is a place everybody should want to be. Eating processed junk really isn’t good for the gut and mind. Depression and anxiety blah blah. As for aspartame it’s been tested many many times and it is still deemed safe to consume if you don’t have over the daily amount. Just like pretty much everything then. It is deemed bad to average Americans. To a fit healthy person it will be just like anything else.
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