Flora Cholesterol lowering kit
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Flora Cholesterol lowering kit

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Found 16th Feb 2015
Fill in your details and it is sent to your door. Great for anyone who wants to keep an eye on their health.

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Ordered one thanks OP,
Need to keep an eye open on my cholesterol.

Thanks

Thank you

urinthematrix

Ordered one thanks OP, Need to keep an eye open on my cholesterol.


Keep it high - in women higher cholesterol is actually protective compared to low chol, and in men there's no data either way (simply because cholesterol has no role in chd events). 240 is healthy.

dancedar

Keep it high - in women higher cholesterol is actually protective … Keep it high - in women higher cholesterol is actually protective compared to low chol, and in men there's no data either way (simply because cholesterol has no role in chd events). 240 is healthy.


State your source? published papers in reliable journals?

just ordered for my dad, cheers

dancedar

Keep it high - in women higher cholesterol is actually protective … Keep it high - in women higher cholesterol is actually protective compared to low chol, and in men there's no data either way (simply because cholesterol has no role in chd events). 240 is healthy.



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Really? The US is revising guidelines on cholesterol intake as I write(!) as there's no basis for it, there's tons of studies like phys.org/new…tml showing it's protective (it's an essential part of the brain and helps ward off dementia...the brain is made of it) and has nothing to do with chd. Seriously. The reason Statins are used to get levels below 210 are because they wouldn't sell enough of them if normal was classed as 240. But 240 is normal, borderline low. If you read one page try this: jeffreydachmd.com/cho…no/ or this jeffreydachmd.com/hea…th/. Phrases like 'Mortality was 5.2 times higher at a cholesterol of 155 compared to mortality at cholesterol of 271' scare me when I see people taking Statins.

"Replace foods high in saturated fats like sausages, butter, full fat diary and fatty meats with those containing unsaturated fats (mono- and poly-unsaturated), or opt for reduced-fat options – for example, low fat cheeses, low fat yoghurts, vegetable oil based soft spreads, and lean meat" this is literally the worst advice I've ever seen, bar drinking orange juice and having cereal for breakfast.

chriskresser.com/cho…ase & skillcollector.com/cho…ch/ are basic enough for lay reading - skillcollector.com/sen…pdf full researh with links

Oxidized cholesterol is a problem, but that comes from eating a crappy diet and not from eating cholesterol itself (as dietary chol has no influence in blood chol). Total cholesterol levels are meaningless.

I've been looking at this in depth for about two years now and there's just no evidence that low cholesterol is something to be aimed for. You're only killing yourself, but at least in doing so you'll lose your memory in doing so and forget you were ever told otherwise! Look in to it, it may save your mind - and your life.

dancedar

Really? The US is revising guidelines on cholesterol intake as I write(!) … Really? The US is revising guidelines on cholesterol intake as I write(!) as there's no basis for it, there's tons of studies like http://phys.org/news203844242.html showing it's protective (it's an essential part of the brain and helps ward off dementia...the brain is made of it) and has nothing to do with chd. Seriously. The reason Statins are used to get levels below 210 are because they wouldn't sell enough of them if normal was classed as 240. But 240 is normal, borderline low. If you read one page try this: http://jeffreydachmd.com/cholesterol-lowering-statin-drugs-for-women-just-say-no/ or this http://jeffreydachmd.com/heart-matter-maryanne-demasi-cholesterol-myth/. Phrases like 'Mortality was 5.2 times higher at a cholesterol of 155 compared to mortality at cholesterol of 271' scare me when I see people taking Statins."Replace foods high in saturated fats like sausages, butter, full fat diary and fatty meats with those containing unsaturated fats (mono- and poly-unsaturated), or opt for reduced-fat options – for example, low fat cheeses, low fat yoghurts, vegetable oil based soft spreads, and lean meat" this is literally the worst advice I've ever seen, bar drinking orange juice and having cereal for breakfast.http://chriskresser.com/cholesterol-doesnt-cause-heart-disease & https://www.skillcollector.com/cholesterol-research/ are basic enough for lay reading - https://www.skillcollector.com/sendy/uploads/Cholesterol%20Research%20by%20Skill%20Collector.pdf full researh with linksOxidized cholesterol is a problem, but that comes from eating a crappy diet and not from eating cholesterol itself (as dietary chol has no influence in blood chol). Total cholesterol levels are meaningless.I've been looking at this in depth for about two years now and there's just no evidence that low cholesterol is something to be aimed for. You're only killing yourself, but at least in doing so you'll lose your memory in doing so and forget you were ever told otherwise! Look in to it, it may save your mind - and your life.




Let's take one step back - all urinthematrix said was 'need to keep an eye open on my cholesterol', and you (authoritatively) stated to "Keep it high - in women higher cholesterol is actually protective compared to low chol, and in men there's no data either way (simply because cholesterol has no role in chd events). 240 is healthy"

-how did you know urinthematrix was a female? do you know she has an otherwise 'healthy' diet (including regular exercise, etc)? any medical conditions/family history that we should know about? Is/was she pregnant?

'I've been looking at this in depth for about two years'.....I'd be concerned if you'd said you were a general practitioner.


With the number of obese Brits on the rise (which sadly involves young children), if someone wants to make changes to his or hers health for the better, good on them! (the information in OP's cholesterol kit encourages the importance of a healthy 'lifestyle', it's not meant to and cannot deplete every bit of cholesterol from the body. It's just common sense, really: floraproactiv.co.uk/pro…iet )

I wonder how many HUKDers will be tucking into and eating a KFC '9pc' all to themselves tonight......or how many can even spell 'cholesterol'? I eat it, too, on occasion - but I do read the labels so I know what I'm putting inside me.

'Take my advice, don't listen to me' -NY 1986

I've no idea what sex urinthematrix is, it doesn't matter, it's the same. Medical conditions and exercise levels don't really matter-lowering it isn't of any benefit. Gps know less about this than even casual researchers-especially those educated in the lipid-heart hypothesis, which is dangerously wrong. Doctors used to advocate tobacco use, remember.

The problem is common sense has been driven by companies like Flora and it's wrong, plain kill-yourself wrong. I don't understand the kfc reference, sorry. Kfc, cholesterol, obesity, they're not really linked. I just hate to think I'm portrayed as trolling or 'authoritatively' stating facts, which is why I provided links. If love it if Flora pro-active and letting cholesterol did anything but put you at risk-my parents still eat their bs ('food' and 'facts')-and it's just wrong to say keep an eye on your health by receiving promotional material from a company which has it wrong.

That said, I've only read about 400 articles and journal entries on this so as always do your own research, buy your milage won't vary, sorry.
Edited by: "dancedar" 17th Feb 2015

thanks....

Thank you
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