Force3D HD 3850 512MB DDR3 Dual DVI HDTV Out PCI-E Graphics Card, £55.59 delivered
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Force3D HD 3850 512MB DDR3 Dual DVI HDTV Out PCI-E Graphics Card, £55.59 delivered

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Found 17th Aug 2008Made hot 17th Aug 2008
Absolutely no info on this on Ebuyer's website. However, you can find more on this website (http://www.force3d.com/products/hd3850.html).

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Original Poster

http://www.force3d.com/products/hd3850/hd3850_top.jpg

good price

Or if you prefer a sapphire branded one dabs/btshop have it at about £57 after quidco.

Nice price!

Nice price!!!

does this need a power supply connected to it?

and can it run on a 300w power supply

yus786

Ordered!
To replace my HD2600XT 512MB in my Dell Inspiron 530, apparently in terms of power consumption the requirements are grossly exaggerated. But still fingers crossed ;-)
Now just have to trade in my HD2600XT at CEX for a supposed £32.

tubby20076;2768668

Ordered!To replace my HD2600XT 512MB in my Dell Inspiron 530, apparently … Ordered!To replace my HD2600XT 512MB in my Dell Inspiron 530, apparently in terms of power consumption the requirements are grossly exaggerated. But still fingers crossed ;-)Now just have to trade in my HD2600XT at CEX for a supposed £32.



Hello

Please can you tell me if your dell has a 300w psu
I have an inspiron 530 too, and am wondering if this card will work in it
please let me know if it all goes well
btw my cpu is a C2D E8200, which has low power consumption
thanks!

I have a C2D E6550 Inspiron 530, so yeah we have the same PSU - it's rated at 305W I believe.
mark.zoomcities.com/ima…png
After looking at that, and judging from how my computer uses a HD2600XT (which says is about 49W at full-load) and a HD3850 512MB uses 68W at full load, a 19W increase will hopefully be sustainable.

I'm going to buy a Electricity Power Meter from maplins for £7.99 to check what sort of wattage my computer is doing at the moment and hopefully my new card should work fine.:-D

yus786;2768598

does this need a power supply connected to it?and can it run on a 300w … does this need a power supply connected to it?and can it run on a 300w power supplyyus786



Yes it does need a PCI-E power connector.

300W is pushing it, depends on the rest of your system and whether or not its a good brand or a cheap tat PSU.

A Dell 300W PSU would be fine

tubby20076;2768769

I have a C2D E6550 Inspiron 530, so yeah we have the same PSU - it's … I have a C2D E6550 Inspiron 530, so yeah we have the same PSU - it's rated at 305W I believe.http://mark.zoomcities.com/images/gfx/GFXpowerchartby3d.pngAfter looking at that, and judging from how my computer uses a HD2600XT (which says is about 49W at full-load) and a HD3850 512MB uses 68W at full load, a 19W increase will hopefully be sustainable.I'm going to buy a Electricity Power Meter from maplins for £7.99 to check what sort of wattage my computer is doing at the moment and hopefully my new card should work fine.:-D



Thanks for the link, very useful for choosing a card for an always-on PC such as a HTPC/PVR, as it gives idle ratings too. I see this rates better than HD2600XT in that department!

Why is everyone using 300w??? i stopped using 300w about 4 years ago when most computers needed more

I'm currently running an X1950XT 512mb card and getting very tempted to get 2 of these to go Crossfire.

Has anyone had any experiences of crossfire on the 3850's?

How does this card compare to an nvidia 8800gt . Does use less power and runs cooler and quieter. BTW hot deal.

overclockersclub.com/rev…50/

There's a review of *a* 512MB HD3850 Card, the closest comparable stock one anyways.

From best that I can judge

8800GT 512MB > HD3870 512MB > HD3850 512MB > 8800GT 256MB

Considering the underlined card usually costs £80 or more usually, it might not be the most value for money card at that price point (I was considering getting a 8800GT 512MB for £90 back when they did the offer, but missed out). But at £55 it's an amazing offer.
The 8800GT 256 is just an underpowered card, everyone is recommending 512MB (on good cards anyways) for modern gaming, for HTPC though, any decent DX10 card would be better and less power consuming.

Plus I've also realised that a 8800GT 512MB or a HD3870 would probably have fried my Dell machine, 300W really probably would not have been enough.

Oh and to that poster, no-one chooses to have 300W - It's a Dell...:?

Please don't kill me if your computer explodes, but i'm using this website to check for power requirements on cards:

extreme.outervision.com/PSU…ine

Hope it helps.

Diekund;2769500

Why is everyone using 300w??? i stopped using 300w about 4 years ago when … Why is everyone using 300w??? i stopped using 300w about 4 years ago when most computers needed more



Older PSU's had a lot of their watts on 5V and 3.3V rails, to support legacy hardware, even though pretty much everything power-heavy in the last 5 years runs off the 12V.

So older PSU's may have had a similar amount of watts as modern ones, but a lot would be wasted / never used. Redundant watts.

This, coupled with the fact that most dual core procs have equal or less power consumption than their slower counterparts of a few years ago means that 300W power supplies (with most of their Watts on the 12V rail) are still very much on the go.

people mocking a 300w power supply are the ones conned by manufacturers

Is this worth upgrading to from an ATI X1800 XT 256MB?

Diekund;2769500

Why is everyone using 300w??? i stopped using 300w about 4 years ago when … Why is everyone using 300w??? i stopped using 300w about 4 years ago when most computers needed more



A lot of people have dell PCs so they didn't get to choose which PSU they got.

tubby20076;2769671

8800GT 512MB HD3870 512MB HD3850 512MB 8800GT 256MBConsidering the … 8800GT 512MB > HD3870 512MB > HD3850 512MB > 8800GT 256MBConsidering the underlined card usually costs £80 or more usually, it might not be the most value for money card at that price point (I was considering getting a 8800GT 512MB for £90 back when they did the offer, but missed out). But at £55 it's an amazing offer.



£80? They haven't been at £80 since the 4850 launch two months ago.

Power to the People!!!....System Requirements..... Force3D HD 3850 from website

PCI Express® based PC is required with one X16 lane graphics slot available on the motherboard

450 Watt or greater power supply with 75 Watt 6-pin PCI Express® power connector recommended (550 Watt and two 6-pin connectors for dual ATI CrossFireX™)

Certified power supplies are recommended

1GB of system memory

Installation software requires an optical drive
DVD playback requires DVD drive

Blu-ray™ / HD DVD playback requires a Blu-ray / HD DVD drive

For a complete ATI CrossFireX™ system, additional ATI Radeon™ HD 3800 series graphics card(s), an ATI CrossFireX Ready motherboard and one ATI CrossFireX Bridge Interconnect cable per board (included) are required

Would you run it on anything less?

EndlessWaves;2770895

£80? They haven't been at £80 since the 4850 launch two months ago.



play.com/PC/…tml - £120
play.com/PC/…tml - £90 (AGP but you know)
ebuyer.com/pro…827 - £85
ebuyer.com/pro…628 - £88
---so you must be implying that they are usually *more* than £80 or what? And that this a hot deal....? ;-)

The HD4850 is a card which has better performance than the HD3850 - they're not comparable. It's even better than the 8800GT which still sells for around £90 (if you're lucky)

Anyways... I'm going from a (low) mainstream card (HD2600XT) to a mid to a high-end card (the HD3850). The HD4850 is firmly high-end like the 8800GT

Boogie83e;2771007

:pOne for the ATi fanboysAMD ATI Chips Comparison Table … :pOne for the ATi fanboysAMD ATI Chips Comparison Table http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/131AndOne for the nVidia fanboysnVidia Chips Comparison Table http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/1321-1 its a Draw...nobody wins...:p



Lol, I'm only a fanboy because my ATI sticker won't come off my desktop. There is a strangely fun element about it all though, upgrading...buying new machine...upgrading...finally getting a job to feed the hardware addiction.

HarryB;2770565

people mocking a 300w power supply are the ones conned by manufacturers



Depends on your needs I suppose.

Its only really a graphics card thats going to put serious loads on a PSU anyway. 300w is fine for a normal internet computer.

tubby20076;2770975

http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/3517039/Sapphire-ATI-Radeon-HD-3850-512MB-DDR3-PCI-Express-2-0-x16-Graphics-Card/Product.html - £120http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/5416296/Sapphire-ATI-Radeon-HD-3850-512MB-DDR3-AGP-8X-Graphics-Card/Product.html - £90 (AGP but you know)http://www.ebuyer.com/product/138827 - £85http://www.ebuyer.com/product/139628 - £88---so you must be implying that they are usually *more* than £80 or what? And that this a hot deal....? ;-)The HD4850 is a card which has better performance than the HD3850 - they're not comparable. It's even better than the 8800GT which still sells for around £90 (if you're lucky)Anyways... I'm going from a (low) mainstream card (HD2600XT) to a mid to a high-end card (the HD3850). The HD4850 is firmly high-end like the 8800GT



This is a great deal and voted hot, but has been cheaper albeit only slightly before on ebuyer, probably what he meant about price being a lot lower for a while.:thumbsup:

hotukdeals.com/ite…4-/

delmontebanana;2769501

I'm currently running an X1950XT 512mb card and getting very tempted to … I'm currently running an X1950XT 512mb card and getting very tempted to get 2 of these to go Crossfire.Has anyone had any experiences of crossfire on the 3850's?



According to Custom pc magazine the hd3850 is a very poor performer in crossfire and many games simply will not run ,As for your X1950xt ,I had one of these and switched to a 8800gt 512mb and there is very little difference in performance so a single 3850 would be quite a big downgrade,
Tony

Hmm i just ordered this off dabs the sapphire version , i didnt no any thing about having to have a PCI-E power connector ? my power supply is a cheap sumvision 650w , ive looked up the details and it doesnt say anything about a PCI-E power connector so do i need a new power supply too ?

cheers

You can get a molex to pcie cable from maplin
maplin.co.uk/Mod…8m8
However at the first sign of a crash while gaming i would seriously consider a better power supply,You would be better off with a well known 450w supply than a 650w no name,
Tony

Currently using 8600GT in a Dell Vostro 200... I'm not sure of power supply...but I think it's 300W

Will this card be a good replacement for my GT8600?

Will I need a new power supply?

Does it require 2 slots?

Will it fit the Vostro 200 case?

Will I need a power adapter?

redondo5;2772682

Currently using 8600GT in a Dell Vostro 200... I'm not sure of power … Currently using 8600GT in a Dell Vostro 200... I'm not sure of power supply...but I think it's 300WWill this card be a good replacement for my GT8600?Will I need a new power supply?Does it require 2 slots? Will it fit the Vostro 200 case?Will I need a power adapter?



Its single slot.

You will need a molex->PCI-E adaptor if your PSU doesn't have a PCI-E power cable.

You may get away with a 300W PSU, ideally you'd want more than that.

It should fit in your Vostro 200.

Its faster than a 8600GT by a fair bit.

I think I might have been the first person to order one...it's been despatched and arrival date is supposed to be tomorrow (the 19th).
i'll let you know how it goes, if there's no message tomorrow I think it's implied that my computer exploded or something :-D

A friend has one of these in his PC (e6400 ) and total power usage flat out at the socket was 294w which suggests you would probably need a 350w+ power supply ( he has a 650w supply) so i wouldnt be too hopeful,Of course there is a possibilty that the Dell PSUs are rated consevatively and you may just scrape by but i would cetainly be looking towards an upgrade in the near future,
Tony

Banned

shame the agp version aint cheap

Diekund;2769500

Why is everyone using 300w??? i stopped using 300w about 4 years ago when … Why is everyone using 300w??? i stopped using 300w about 4 years ago when most computers needed more


I think Dell do it so you need to upgrade. I was using a 350w PSU 5 and a half years ago and even then it was a bit lightweight.

HarryB;2770565

people mocking a 300w power supply are the ones conned by manufacturers


My god where do people like you come from? If you knew anything you'd know that lose voltage over their life and also that 300w is just a measure of the total amount of power the PSU puts out over all of it's rails. So even if your total power consumption is less than 300w you might be overstressing the 12v rail and killing your PSU which has a tendency to take out all the components in your case.

BrianScott1980;2770598

Is this worth upgrading to from an ATI X1800 XT 256MB?



Definately, a big upgrade.

It should come with a pci to molar adapter

C64;2773884

It should come with a pci to molar adapter


So I can plug it into my tooth?
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