Ford Fiesta 1.0 EcoBoost 140 ST-Line SatNav 3dr - 24mth Personal lease (8k mpa) - 23 x £131.64 + £394.92 upfront - Total £3,442.64 - T.C.Harrison Ford / Whatcar lease
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Ford Fiesta 1.0 EcoBoost 140 ST-Line SatNav 3dr - 24mth Personal lease (8k mpa) - 23 x £131.64 + £394.92 upfront - Total £3,442.64 - T.C.Harrison Ford / Whatcar lease

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Found 1st Aug 2016
Tidy wee car for the wife or the teenager

Transmission:Manual
Fuel Type:Petrol
Body Style:Small family car
Top Speed:125 mph
Road Tax:Included
UK Delivery:Included
Metallic Paint:Included
Maintenance:Not Included
Warranty:Included
Breakdown:Included
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nice find
Not sure the average teenager would find insurance companies too friendly with a 140bhp car!
nictry

Not sure the average teenager would find insurance companies too friendly … Not sure the average teenager would find insurance companies too friendly with a 140bhp car!



I think it's about group 17, so it's not that bad
" Tidy wee car for the wife or the teenager.."

You missed out grandparents
nathan3007

I think it's about group 17, so it's not that bad


Group 19 for this one. Still be a good couple of grand a year for insurance.
Even with a ford privilege voucher and additional variable marketing deals on top (excluding fact this is pure rental and not paying off towards ownership ) I can't get monthlies close to this with 8k miles. Has to be hot deal. How harsh are these companies on charging extra when lease term is up due to car no longer being show room condition?
dajambo

Tidy wee car for the wife or the teenager



Love it. Not patronising in the slightest!

Must say though, I wouldn't be embarrassed to be seen driving it.
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SpamJavelin

Hot deal but voting cold for the casual sexism




I agree, either do it properly or not at all!
140 brake from a one litre 3 pot is really quite impressive. Gone are the days of the Suzuki Swift Gti or Daihatsu Charade Gtti!
katchiib

140 brake from a one litre 3 pot is really quite impressive. Gone are … 140 brake from a one litre 3 pot is really quite impressive. Gone are the days of the Suzuki Swift Gti or Daihatsu Charade Gtti!



It is - until you think that Yamaha have just produced a 998cc 4 pot engine that pumps out 197bhp....
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ktm666

It is - until you think that Yamaha have just produced a 998cc 4 pot … It is - until you think that Yamaha have just produced a 998cc 4 pot engine that pumps out 197bhp....


The Formula Ford version has 205, with 3 cylinders
Edited by: "deleted402533" 1st Aug 2016
Seems like a good price and not to much of a deposit to put down. Think loads of these companies are happy for you to put down more and reduce the monthly payments.
ktm666

It is - until you think that Yamaha have just produced a 998cc 4 pot … It is - until you think that Yamaha have just produced a 998cc 4 pot engine that pumps out 197bhp....



But that wouldn't pull the weight of a car - convincingly at least.
Keyless start - don't touch it. My son's was stolen off the drive - search Fiesta ST or ST2 or ST3 on social media in your area. Thieves break the window, (not sure why alarm is not triggered, but it isn't), reach in and plug a gadget into the block, which disables the need for the key to be present, switches off the alarm and unlocks the door. Drive away never to be seen again. £14k payout for my son but Ford should be ashamed, it's a disgrace
Does anybody know who is the registered keeper of the car with a lease for insurance purposes? Price comparison websites ask who is the "legal owner" and who is the "registered keeper". The legal owner is clearly the lease company. If I put the registered keeper as the lease company, my current insurance company (Admiral), who are usually the cheapest by far for me don't quote, yet they do if I put the registered keeper as myself. Does anybody have any experience with this?

Also OP I think the total might be £3422.64, not £3442.64 if my calculations are correct! Maybe another £20 saving?X)

Edited by: "ld100" 1st Aug 2016

Just to take the obvious, this is an ST lookalike. There is a huge difference between this and an actual ST.

I have the same engine in my Fiesta and it's fantastic for what it is. It's been a great 2nd car which I'll hand back in October. Ford quite often have good deals around this time of the year with the new registration plate coming out. You just have to be nimble and move quick when you find a good deal.

pgmbrum

Keyless start - don't touch it. My son's was stolen off the drive - … Keyless start - don't touch it. My son's was stolen off the drive - search Fiesta ST or ST2 or ST3 on social media in your area. Thieves break the window, (not sure why alarm is not triggered, but it isn't), reach in and plug a gadget into the block, which disables the need for the key to be present, switches off the alarm and unlocks the door. Drive away never to be seen again. £14k payout for my son but Ford should be ashamed, it's a disgrace



Yes, there is a problem with all Ford's but it doesn't matter if it's keyless start or otherwise. You take the risk of any car you own being stolen, that's what insurance is for (the correct insurance may I add includes GAP insurance). I bought a £40 steering lock for ours from amazon which lowers the risk.

ld100

Does anybody know who is the registered keeper of the car with a lease … Does anybody know who is the registered keeper of the car with a lease for insurance purposes? Price comparison websites ask who is the "legal owner" and who is the "registered keeper". The legal owner is clearly the lease company. If I put the registered keeper as the lease company, my current insurance company (Admiral), who are usually the cheapest by far for me don't quote, yet they do if I put the registered keeper as myself. Does anybody have any experience with this?Also OP I think the total might be £3422.64, not £3442.64 if my calculations are correct! Maybe another £20 saving?X)



No issues whatsoever with any insurance company I have every used to insure a leased car (mainly the admiral group).
nictry

Not sure the average teenager would find insurance companies too friendly … Not sure the average teenager would find insurance companies too friendly with a 140bhp car!



It's not fair really - 140bhp is the bare minimum needed for most drivers these days just to get to the next red light, or up the driver in front
I seen the same one today advertised but didn't see how much the deposit was but it was 100per month
n3m3s1s

It's not fair really - 140bhp is the bare minimum needed for most … It's not fair really - 140bhp is the bare minimum needed for most drivers these days just to get to the next red light, or up the driver in front


Thank you Mr J Clarkson
lewsca

The Formula Ford version has 205, with 3 cylinders



Ha! Touché!
ezzer72

But that wouldn't pull the weight of a car - convincingly at least.



I'm not an engineer, but why not? The output power of an engine is the output power. Surely with the correct gearing and clutch, it could transfer that power?
ktm666

I'm not an engineer, but why not? The output power of an engine is the … I'm not an engineer, but why not? The output power of an engine is the output power. Surely with the correct gearing and clutch, it could transfer that power?



The suggestion would be lack of torque. Those power figures will be at a high rpm (thus low torque) so you'd need to rev the nuts off it and slip the clutch to get off the line with a standard gearbox. Saying that though, you're right that with a suitable gearbox with sufficient reduction it would be fine (odd driving with the engine revving that high though!)
ld100

Does anybody know who is the registered keeper of the car with a lease … Does anybody know who is the registered keeper of the car with a lease for insurance purposes? Price comparison websites ask who is the "legal owner" and who is the "registered keeper". The legal owner is clearly the lease company. If I put the registered keeper as the lease company, my current insurance company (Admiral), who are usually the cheapest by far for me don't quote, yet they do if I put the registered keeper as myself. Does anybody have any experience with this?



I have a lease car (after seeing the deal on here, thanks HUKD). I'm not the registered keeper, the lease company is, and had no problem insuring with Admiral - think the quote was about £50 more than if I'd been the keeper.

It wasn't worth the faff/hassle/cost of cancelling mid-term so I stuck with them and when it came to renewal they were the cheapest after a bit of haggling!
How do people find enough miles in these. A commute can easily be 30 miles a day. Which works out at 7000 mpa, and that's assuming they don't go anywhere else other than to and from work.
So Harrison Ford has started a car dealership?
ezzer72

But that wouldn't pull the weight of a car - convincingly at least.



Yeah there's more to an engines power than peak HP.
ktm666

I'm not an engineer, but why not? The output power of an engine is the … I'm not an engineer, but why not? The output power of an engine is the output power. Surely with the correct gearing and clutch, it could transfer that power?



As Fubar rightly says, torque is very important. The Yamaha motorcycle engine probably produces around 100nm, and no doubt revs to 13,000+ RPM. The Fiesta engine will produce roughly double the torque, and will rev to 6000ish rpm.

Car manufacturers are always trying to find new ways to produce power out of smaller engines, and would have made this move years ago if it 'worked'. As an example, some Honda Vtec (car, not bike) engines rev quite high to produce relatively high power, but probably 8500rpm or so, not 13,000+.

Someone once said 'bhp turns heads, torque turns wheels', and that pretty much sums it up.

As another angle, think about trucks. Today's probably run at around 450-500hp, when many performance cars are 600+. Could you imagine a Ferrari or similar trying to pull 40 tonnes of cargo? The truck will probably rev to 2,500rpm, but will produce much, much more torque than a car.

Horses for courses.
Edited by: "ezzer72" 1st Aug 2016
rohitmkiller

How do people find enough miles in these. A commute can easily be 30 … How do people find enough miles in these. A commute can easily be 30 miles a day. Which works out at 7000 mpa, and that's assuming they don't go anywhere else other than to and from work.



Google UK average yearly mileage, it's lower than this and dropping. People are driving less and less.
ollie87

Google UK average yearly mileage, it's lower than this and dropping. … Google UK average yearly mileage, it's lower than this and dropping. People are driving less and less.



​That's incredible that people either find jobs super close to where they live, or they just move really close to work.
rohitmkiller

How do people find enough miles in these. A commute can easily be 30 … How do people find enough miles in these. A commute can easily be 30 miles a day. Which works out at 7000 mpa, and that's assuming they don't go anywhere else other than to and from work.



​I am on a 5k lease on the Passat Alltrack deal, my commute is about 10 miles a day so its good for me. Extra mileage is charged at 7.2ppm. It wasn't worth paying to go up to 8k as paying the excess mileage charge would get me to 9k for the same money.
These are basically the Zetec s black and red edition! I paid £12404 including finance for mine brand new
Is there no admin fee or the likes for pursuing this deal? Do you have to wait for the car to become available?
rohitmkiller

​That's incredible that people either find jobs super close to where they … ​That's incredible that people either find jobs super close to where they live, or they just move really close to work.



Or, as increasingly there's no parking so they either park and ride (in cities etc.), public transport it all, or cycle. Personally, I purposefully chose my current job and house so I live within a few miles of my work and cyclevanyway, after previously driving 66 miles a day for a few years.
rohitmkiller

​That's incredible that people either find jobs super close to where they … ​That's incredible that people either find jobs super close to where they live, or they just move really close to work.



​or they take the train, bus, cycle or walk. My last company moved from Middlesex with parking to West London without parking. So it was a walk to the station and 75 minutes on 3 trains, compared to 45 mins in the car.
Could this tow a twin axle caravan?
ld100

Does anybody know who is the registered keeper of the car with a lease … Does anybody know who is the registered keeper of the car with a lease for insurance purposes? Price comparison websites ask who is the "legal owner" and who is the "registered keeper". The legal owner is clearly the lease company. If I put the registered keeper as the lease company, my current insurance company (Admiral), who are usually the cheapest by far for me don't quote, yet they do if I put the registered keeper as myself. Does anybody have any experience with this?Also OP I think the total might be £3422.64, not £3442.64 if my calculations are correct! Maybe another £20 saving?X)


If you're picking up a lease, the registered owner will be the lease company, and the registered keeper should be you, or the person doing the day-to day driving.
Giddy01

Could this tow a twin axle caravan?



It might be capable of the physical pulling (I don't think it would be great though) but it would be potentially dangerous. The Caravan Club (etc) recommend only towing a caravan that is up to 85% of the kerb weight of the car. For this car that would mean a caravan weighing around 950kg...
Mada06

Just to take the obvious, this is an ST lookalike. There is a huge … Just to take the obvious, this is an ST lookalike. There is a huge difference between this and an actual ST.



Yup. These are basically the Zetec S rebadged as the ST-Line, with some ST themed trim on the inside and darker alloys.

I ordered mine a month ago. Looking forward to getting it (hopefully this week). Seems to be taking ages for it to arrive.

Edited by: "Iain815" 1st Aug 2016
pgmbrum

Keyless start - don't touch it. My son's was stolen off the drive - … Keyless start - don't touch it. My son's was stolen off the drive - search Fiesta ST or ST2 or ST3 on social media in your area. Thieves break the window, (not sure why alarm is not triggered, but it isn't), reach in and plug a gadget into the block, which disables the need for the key to be present, switches off the alarm and unlocks the door. Drive away never to be seen again. £14k payout for my son but Ford should be ashamed, it's a disgrace

ld100

Does anybody know who is the registered keeper of the car with a lease … Does anybody know who is the registered keeper of the car with a lease for insurance purposes? Price comparison websites ask who is the "legal owner" and who is the "registered keeper". The legal owner is clearly the lease company. If I put the registered keeper as the lease company, my current insurance company (Admiral), who are usually the cheapest by far for me don't quote, yet they do if I put the registered keeper as myself. Does anybody have any experience with this?Also OP I think the total might be £3422.64, not £3442.64 if my calculations are correct! Maybe another £20 saving?X)



Steering locks are a waste of money.

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ktm666

I'm not an engineer, but why not? The output power of an engine is the … I'm not an engineer, but why not? The output power of an engine is the output power. Surely with the correct gearing and clutch, it could transfer that power?



The bike engine components aren't engineered to have the load placed on them that the weight of a car would incur.

It comes down to Newtons third law: To every action there is always opposed an equal reaction. So when the engine is applying force through the gear box, differential and tyres to propel the mass of the object along, equal forces are subjected to the engine components. A bike only weighing a couple of hundred kg causes less resistance to the engine components so they can be built with much lower tolerances which is what allows them to achieve such a high specific output per litre because the moving components are much lighter. But they're also more fragile so when you have those opposite forces of the much higher mass of a car being exerted on them they aren't up to the task reliably. So car engines are built with tougher internal components, but means that per litre they produce much less power than a high revving bike engine.
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