Forgot your Oyster Card, just use your Contactless Bank Card (as an oyster) save £5 if you havent got an oyster or send it back for a refund (TFL london
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Forgot your Oyster Card, just use your Contactless Bank Card (as an oyster) save £5 if you havent got an oyster or send it back for a refund (TFL london

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Found 22nd Sep 2014
what it says on the box, use your contactless payments card as an oyster card Simples..

If you are visiting london just use your contactless credit/debit card as you would an oyster card, click on the link to register it,

i had to pay £5 for an oyster, in theory i could return it for a refund and just use my bank card.

Your contactless card will work exactly the same as an oyster card, ie checkin and out and it'll calculate cheapest day tickets, just dont confuse the system with difference cards in and out

Please note; Discounts can't be added to contactless payment cards.This includes all National Railcard discounts such as 16-25 railcard so you should continue using your Oyster.
- MLD9

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Original Poster

sorry i misstyped the link it should be http://tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payments/contactless?cid=fs028

i have asked the moderators to correct
Edited by: "whatyadoinsucka" 22nd Sep 2014

SuperEd

whatyadoinsucka

sorry i misstyped the link it should be … sorry i misstyped the link it should be http://tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payments/contactless?cid=fs028i have asked the moderators to correct



Should be fixed

It looks like they have introduced capping on all transport as well. Until now it was better to use the Oyster card for several journeys in one day. With the capping introduced I will be getting a refund on my Oyster card.

Worth mentioning that if you have a barclaycard credit card you can collect freedom points on your travels.

i didn't have enough on my oyster the other day even for one bus trip so my CL bank card came in handy... good of TFL to do this...

but still sceptical of how the

1) different mode of travel will be looked after i.e.. tube/rail/bus if I want to miss Z1
2) weekly/monthly caping specially annual one, how will be this be added up again if I miss Z1 will it work....

dalipsinghno1

i didn't have enough on my oyster the other day even for one bus trip so … i didn't have enough on my oyster the other day even for one bus trip so my CL bank card came in handy... good of TFL to do this...but still sceptical of how the 1) different mode of travel will be looked after i.e.. tube/rail/bus if I want to miss Z1 2) weekly/monthly caping specially annual one, how will be this be added up again if I miss Z1 will it work....



Well in terms of monthly, they're not doing that.

I wish they could just make it easy and let you buy a monthly pass but link to your card instead of Oyster.

That's great news, thank you very much!

Isn't there any method where you can just use your card as an oyster card on a daily basis?

Original Poster

goonertillidie

Should be fixed

thanks Mod !!

i guess they are doing this so the apple 6 with NFC and 3 year nexus phones will be able to be used soon

Original Poster

damn my santander 123 card doesnt have contactless, they pay a few % for TFL spend

and if you get mugged in london you will likely need to cancel your card quick to save on subway fares
Edited by: "whatyadoinsucka" 22nd Sep 2014

whatyadoinsucka

damn my santander 123 card doesnt have contactless, they pay a few % for … damn my santander 123 card doesnt have contactless, they pay a few % for TFL spendand if you get mugged in london you will likely need to cancel your card quick to save on subway fares



I just got a new one as mine expired and they are issuing contactless ones now.

mattashhall

I just got a new one as mine expired and they are issuing contactless … I just got a new one as mine expired and they are issuing contactless ones now.

mine is too

Daft question ... But if you have 2 x contact cards, how will system know which is used?

This doesn't work for monthly and annual travelcards.

mattgrant

Daft question ... But if you have 2 x contact cards, how will system know … Daft question ... But if you have 2 x contact cards, how will system know which is used?


Not a silly question. If you have 2 contactless cards in your wallet (like an oyster and a debit card) the system can get confused and end up charging you too much.

It's called Card Clash and to avoid it you need to make sure you take the card you want to use out of your wallet and tap it.

I don't want contactless I don't consider it safe, not just because of card clash but after signatures and chip and pin where ks the logic in not having any additional security if the purchase is under 20 quid?

my contactless card is kept in a little slip case I made out of a capri sun, it blocks the oyster card from working so I assume it blocks the contactless as its similar tech

Oyster has the benefit of not being tied to a bank account so when you get mugged it can only be used up to the value of the cash loaded onto the card and I only load mine with £10 or £20 at a time.

path6336

Oyster has the benefit of not being tied to a bank account so when you … Oyster has the benefit of not being tied to a bank account so when you get mugged it can only be used up to the value of the cash loaded onto the card and I only load mine with £10 or £20 at a time.



Assuming you carry it instead of a debit card. If you carry both that's an extra £10-20 on you at the same time.

Does it work here on the buses in Dorset?

joyf4536

Does it work here on the buses in Dorset?



If its doesn't work in Dorset it's not a deal!!!

Have they more than one bus now?

Original Poster

DevilD

Have they more than one bus now?

yeah 2 a day leaves 624am and returns 22.47pm

Error440

I don't want contactless I don't consider it safe, not just because of … I don't want contactless I don't consider it safe, not just because of card clash but after signatures and chip and pin where ks the logic in not having any additional security if the purchase is under 20 quid?my contactless card is kept in a little slip case I made out of a capri sun, it blocks the oyster card from working so I assume it blocks the contactless as its similar tech


could you not just tuck it under your tin foil hat?

I have my goldcard discount linked to my Oyster Card (so single fares and capping is a 1/3 off). I'm guessing you can't do that with a bank card?

Great to tourists!

Error440

I don't want contactless I don't consider it safe, not just because of … I don't want contactless I don't consider it safe, not just because of card clash but after signatures and chip and pin where ks the logic in not having any additional security if the purchase is under 20 quid?my contactless card is kept in a little slip case I made out of a capri sun, it blocks the oyster card from working so I assume it blocks the contactless as its similar tech


every few times you're required to enter your pin as well so there's a limit on what can be taken even if it takes you a while before you realise your card has gone, plus once reported any money taken is refunded, so there's no real issue for you.
registering your card for this sort of service though is pre authentication so the pin isn't required...
path6336

Oyster has the benefit of not being tied to a bank account so when you … Oyster has the benefit of not being tied to a bank account so when you get mugged it can only be used up to the value of the cash loaded onto the card and I only load mine with £10 or £20 at a time.


...but if someone takes your card, any monies are refunded (can you reclaim that £10 - £20 if used on a stolen oyster?) and where are they going to go that would run up a huge bill anyway?

Anyways, get used to it - oyster costs tfl a massive amount to administer etc, and nfc credit/debit payments are expected to save a fortune. 'oyster' will be slowly phased out as the infrastructure now can utilise other payment schemes that tfl doesn't have to look after. This is why they're incentivising by offering better capping options on debit/credit nfc than the simple daily with oyster

Edited by: "tapi" 22nd Sep 2014

Good post thanks for the tip! I am off to London shortly and it would be £9.60 for day travel card - or £2.40 each way from euston to marble arch. Half the price

have some heat!

yeah, because thieves just love spending pre-paid oyster credit on errr... public transport (and get caught on video/have their movements tracked).

path6336

Oyster has the benefit of not being tied to a bank account so when you … Oyster has the benefit of not being tied to a bank account so when you get mugged it can only be used up to the value of the cash loaded onto the card and I only load mine with £10 or £20 at a time.

So many issues with this - contactless payment as an extra option is good, but the reality is that most people are going to be better off staying with Oyster and TFL will need to do more to get them off that more expensive system.

- no season tickets on contactless yet, just daily and Mon-Sun weekly capping
- card clash (which admittedly is now an issue for Oyster card holders too!)
- you'll need to be using your card elsewhere with PIN, otherwise there is a risk that you'll hit the PIN check on the bus and have to rely on begging the bus driver to let you on like one of the freeriders you see obviously blagging their way onto buses. Carrying a spare contactless card is of course an option, but you then lose the benefit of capping
- can't link it to discount photocards
- arguing with the bank about fraudulent use when lost

As for "saving £5", that is of course a deposit (not a fee) which is refundable when you return the card. Obviously if you never plan to return it, or lose it, the £5 is gone.

In summary, contactless suits visitors and irregular users better, or bus-only users who find it inconvenient to top up, but everyone else is probably better off sticking with Oyster at the moment.


Edited by: "premierfella" 23rd Sep 2014

Thanks for this.

Didn't know that the daily £4.40 cap on bus journeys now applies to contactless bank cards as well. It never used to.

premierfella

Obviously if you never plan to return it, or lose it, the £5 is gone.



If you register your Oyster online, and lose it, they'll give you a new card with your credit intact no? So you wouldn't lose the £5?

I've been using contactless for some time, and whilst I'm not using it all that frequently, I've never been asked for my pin.

boohai

I've been using contactless for some time, and whilst I'm not using it … I've been using contactless for some time, and whilst I'm not using it all that frequently, I've never been asked for my pin.



Yeah I don't know what that person is talking about - that doesn't happen AFAIK

Please note that if you have a discount applied to Oyster such as 16-25 railcard this is not currently possible with the contactless bank card therefore it's best to keep your Oyster

Tried it on underground this weekend, worked fine.

This Contactless card is not as easy as the makeout. I had to replace my debit card twice because it stopped working and when it does you have to stop everyone just to use it.

Original Poster

Spud211

Good post thanks for the tip! I am off to London shortly and it would be … Good post thanks for the tip! I am off to London shortly and it would be £9.60 for day travel card - or £2.40 each way from euston to marble arch. Half the price :)have some heat!



and you don't have to queue at the station for a ticket, that's why I got an oyster for a couple of trips a year, at kings cross the queue can be 25 mins plus

MLD9

You can buy single/return tickets from the machines so not really any … You can buy single/return tickets from the machines so not really any saving Just no queues.


Wrong. Example: a single fare within Zone 1 using Oyster or Contactless card is £2.20. The same fare from a ticket machine costs £4.70.

If you are visiting london just use your contactless credit/debit card as … If you are visiting london just use your contactless credit/debit card as you would an oyster card, click on the link to register it,



Click on which link? I can't see anywhere to register. Or do you not have to register?

clostridium_botulinum

Wrong. Example: a single fare within Zone 1 using Oyster or Contactless … Wrong. Example: a single fare within Zone 1 using Oyster or Contactless card is £2.20. The same fare from a ticket machine costs £4.70.



oO my apologies (deleted the post) - thanks for pointing this out
Edited by: "MLD9" 23rd Sep 2014

path6336

Oyster has the benefit of not being tied to a bank account so when you … Oyster has the benefit of not being tied to a bank account so when you get mugged it can only be used up to the value of the cash loaded onto the card and I only load mine with £10 or £20 at a time.



Assuming you've properly registered your Oyster card beforehand (especially if you've got auto-top up linked to it), if you lose it later etc, you should then report it as soon as possible so that it can be cancelled: tfl.gov.uk/far…nds
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