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Edited by:"luvsadealdealdeal"Found 21st Oct
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Looks like it's going a bit chilly - I guess those voting cold can't understand half the words the Telegraph journalists use or are possibly more nunc than quid

Cold voting may just have something to with your condescending attitude " I guess those voting cold can't understand half the words the Telegraph journalists use"
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Says it all, Margaret Thatcher on the front.



Cold (obviously)
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Says it all, Margaret Thatcher on the front.



Cold (obviously)

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Mozart3217 m ago

Says it all, Margaret Thatcher on the front.Cold (obviously)



It's gotta be better than having Margaret Thatcher on top..... shudder!!
Edited by: "JB74" 21st Oct

not even for free... EVER!

it'll be a cold day in hell b4 i even click online on the VILE rag (so generating "click" revenue for it), let alone risk being seen with it coming out of a newsagents...
you'd defo need to hide it between 2 large porno mags, to make sure you didn't lose ALL credibility in your town/village!

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Zebedee201713 m ago

it'll be a cold day in hell b4 i even click online on the VILE rag (so …it'll be a cold day in hell b4 i even click online on the VILE rag (so generating "click" revenue for it), let alone risk being seen with it coming out of a newsagents...you'd defo need to hide it between 2 large porno mags, to make sure you didn't lose ALL credibility in your town/village!


you don't like it?

I love the telegraph, real news. Not like the guardian

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let's face it: if you have a decent brain you're going to read the Telegraph, Times, Independent or (scraping the bottom of the barrel) the Guardian

I bet everybody voting cold doesn't ever read any of those 4

jaks10152 m ago

I love the telegraph, real news. Not like the guardian


Real Tory-biased news, you mean? Like almost the entire UK press. Incredible, really, that Murdoch, the Barclay Brothers and their like are allowed to decide the outcome of general elections (and the incredibly damaging Brexit) thanks to sheer pervasiveness.

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Newbold9 m ago

thanks to sheer pervasiveness.


you spelled that wrong: you meant 'persuasiveness'

Newbold21 m ago

Real Tory-biased news, you mean? Like almost the entire UK press. …Real Tory-biased news, you mean? Like almost the entire UK press. Incredible, really, that Murdoch, the Barclay Brothers and their like are allowed to decide the outcome of general elections (and the incredibly damaging Brexit) thanks to sheer pervasiveness.


🙄 go and join your momentum buddies at some protest against the system that provides for you.

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jaks1013 h, 4 m ago

I love the telegraph, real news. Not like the guardian



I prefer VIZ

luvsadealdealdeal2 h, 27 m ago

you spelled that wrong: you meant 'persuasiveness'


I think you need a dictionary.......

JB7458 m ago

I prefer VIZ



The stories in Viz are more believable, as well as the spelling being considerably better.

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Gentle_Giant2 h, 44 m ago

The stories in Viz are more believable, as well as the spelling being …The stories in Viz are more believable, as well as the spelling being considerably better.



ha... You sir, are an inspiration!

Newspapers are there to steer the cattle.... in to the pen of the masters

JB746 h, 34 m ago

ha... You sir, are an inspiration!



Thank you. Some people are high on life; I am high on prescription pain medication.

VCB-1601 h, 55 m ago

Somebody order a knob because one just walked in



That would be you then, because he is correct, the UK newspapers are dominated by a handful of really nasty weirdos who push their own agendas and sod the truth; not even the BBC is immune - and hasnt been since Tony Blair got to them.
You want proof; go look at 1980s reporting, where the various Muslim factions were fighting the Russians in Afghanistan; they were called "freedom fighters".

When the Russians pulled out, but left behind a puppet government, they were called "rebels"

Soon after the US moves in, and forever after; they were called "terrorists".

And please bear in mind, that throughout the Russian occupation, they were being supplied with weapons BY the good ol USA, including surface to air missiles.

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Gentle_Giant20 h, 50 m ago

That would be you then, because he is correct, the UK newspapers are …That would be you then, because he is correct, the UK newspapers are dominated by a handful of really nasty weirdos who push their own agendas and sod the truth; not even the BBC is immune - and hasnt been since Tony Blair got to them.You want proof; go look at 1980s reporting, where the various Muslim factions were fighting the Russians in Afghanistan; they were called "freedom fighters".When the Russians pulled out, but left behind a puppet government, they were called "rebels"Soon after the US moves in, and forever after; they were called "terrorists".And please bear in mind, that throughout the Russian occupation, they were being supplied with weapons BY the good ol USA, including surface to air missiles.



very offensive to write it Muslim, you are now on their kill list

luvsadealdealdeal1 h, 6 m ago

very offensive to write it Muslim, you are now on their kill list



They'd better hurry, I have 3 chronic illness's and am looking at brain surgery next year - it would be this year, but the NHS waiting list makes it next year - if I live that long.

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Gentle_Giant17 m ago

They'd better hurry, I have 3 chronic illness's and am looking at brain …They'd better hurry, I have 3 chronic illness's and am looking at brain surgery next year - it would be this year, but the NHS waiting list makes it next year - if I live that long.



Gentle_Giant17 m ago

They'd better hurry, I have 3 chronic illness's and am looking at brain …They'd better hurry, I have 3 chronic illness's and am looking at brain surgery next year - it would be this year, but the NHS waiting list makes it next year - if I live that long.



sorry to hear that, we ran into each other a few times the last couple of years - how old are you, by the way?

Real time = early 50's, sense of humour = early teens, general physical condition = late 90's.

I am in a catch22 situation; I am too ill to work, which means I cannot afford to get treated privately; and the NHS is in such a mess that they wont do anything until I am at deaths door; they will keep me alive, but quality of life requirements went out of the window over a decade ago.

Plus, my first chronic illness is so rare in men (1:1,400,000), they have no idea how it interacts medicines, let alone with my 2nd and 3rd illness.
As an example, there are over a dozen drugs that can be used for TGN (aka TN), but only one is semi-safe for me to take - due to my ITP; and it makes my chronic fatigue much worse..

So, lie screaming in pain much of the day, or lie totally drained of energy for much of the day.

I am off for another lie down.

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Gentle_Giant4 h, 4 m ago

Real time = early 50's, sense of humour = early teens, general physical …Real time = early 50's, sense of humour = early teens, general physical condition = late 90's.I am in a catch22 situation; I am too ill to work, which means I cannot afford to get treated privately; and the NHS is in such a mess that they wont do anything until I am at deaths door; they will keep me alive, but quality of life requirements went out of the window over a decade ago.Plus, my first chronic illness is so rare in men (1:1,400,000), they have no idea how it interacts medicines, let alone with my 2nd and 3rd illness.As an example, there are over a dozen drugs that can be used for TGN (aka TN), but only one is semi-safe for me to take - due to my ITP; and it makes my chronic fatigue much worse..So, lie screaming in pain much of the day, or lie totally drained of energy for much of the day.I am off for another lie down.



you got dealt a bad hand there, it does put our own little medical problem into perspective, my middle son has something minor that can probably be treated so we're off for his first consultation tomorrow, going to be 10 hours in the car there & back! NHS don't offer this form of treatment, so there goes a couple of £Ks...

luvsadealdealdeal1 h, 25 m ago

you got dealt a bad hand there, it does put our own little medical problem …you got dealt a bad hand there, it does put our own little medical problem into perspective, my middle son has something minor that can probably be treated so we're off for his first consultation tomorrow, going to be 10 hours in the car there & back! NHS don't offer this form of treatment, so there goes a couple of £Ks...



10 hours, so you will need at least 200 hours worth of entertainment!!

How old and what is wrong??

I used to make weekly trips across the country for a 10 minute appointment regarding my ITP; ultimately the research team involved failed to find anything, but I got enough clues to consider yeast as an issue - of course as a mere mortal, they wouldnt take the suggestion seriously, and the trial failed with no resolution at all.

Ultimately Google is both your best friend and your worst enemy; there is plenty of cutting edge info on even the rarest of issues, but also tonnes of garbage (water cures cancer!!), but stick to proper peer reviewed papers and websites, and you can often turn up knowing more than the doctor does.

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Gentle_Giant22 h, 0 m ago

10 hours, so you will need at least 200 hours worth of entertainment!!How …10 hours, so you will need at least 200 hours worth of entertainment!!How old and what is wrong??I used to make weekly trips across the country for a 10 minute appointment regarding my ITP; ultimately the research team involved failed to find anything, but I got enough clues to consider yeast as an issue - of course as a mere mortal, they wouldnt take the suggestion seriously, and the trial failed with no resolution at all.Ultimately Google is both your best friend and your worst enemy; there is plenty of cutting edge info on even the rarest of issues, but also tonnes of garbage (water cures cancer!!), but stick to proper peer reviewed papers and websites, and you can often turn up knowing more than the doctor does.



it's mild pectus carinatum and it seems the only clinic offering brace treatment is pectusclinic.com/

tbh I could have done without the £3K expense (& the rest, eg hotels) - but my wife got a bee in her bonnet about it & sort of made the worries about our son's self-esteem (it's basically a cosmetic thing) worse for him so now he wants it treated

it seems when it's mild like his, many blokes just do some body-building to disguise it

anyhoo, my wife wins the argument (as always) nae problemo

nothing like as serious as yours, I was reading about it...

anyway, if it all works out, he won't have any mildly embarrassing explanation to make first time he finds a nice girlfriend and talks her into, well, you know the rest lol

btw you're right about knowing more than the doctor on occasion - we got referred to a thoracic hospital doctor and she said it was pectus excavatum, even gave me leaflets on it - it was only when I got home that my wife said, that's not excavatum, it's carinatum etc - I tried to say Doc knows best but was made to phone back our Doc - she listened then said, oh it's carinatum, sorry I got the leaflet mixed up etc! To be fair, it seems you can sort of have both at the same time & it's mild (so doesn't show so clearly) - the guy we're seeing tomorrow must be one of the UK's top experts in this condition so we'll see what he has to say...to be continued...
Edited by: "luvsadealdealdeal" 24th Oct

(I think) I used to know a kid with it; certainly his chest was an odd shape; I dont remember him ever getting grief from anyone; I used to get the most, being so tall that I towered over everyone, even the teachers; but with all the perfect air-brushed images everywhere these days, they feel ugly even when they are perfect.

Have a safe trip.

JB7421st Oct

It's gotta be better than having Margaret Thatcher on top..... shudder!! …It's gotta be better than having Margaret Thatcher on top..... shudder!!


Irrelevant now as technically under (as in 6ft)

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thomasleep21 m ago

Irrelevant now as technically under (as in 6ft)



Ha, you make a fair point..... besides, she probably resembles a pepperami in a wig right about now

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Gentle_Giant17 h, 40 m ago

(I think) I used to know a kid with it; certainly his chest was an odd …(I think) I used to know a kid with it; certainly his chest was an odd shape; I dont remember him ever getting grief from anyone; I used to get the most, being so tall that I towered over everyone, even the teachers; but with all the perfect air-brushed images everywhere these days, they feel ugly even when they are perfect.Have a safe trip.



cheers - we just got back, nice of him to let us jump the queue (we got there over 2 hrs early as traffic was good)

my lad seems a perfect candidate for the treatment, all systems go - consultant worked pretty hard for his money today tbh so let's hope treatment's effective
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