Free hive installation worth £199 when taking out British gas fixed gas and electricity plan
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Free hive installation worth £199 when taking out British gas fixed gas and electricity plan

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Found 6th Mar 2014
I have just been looking into getting the hive system for controlling wirelessly my heating water etc and noticed British gas are including it in the fixed until August 2015 plan, it is £199 to have it supplied and installed without the plan ,I know it's more expensive but could be good for some can be cancelled when installed but £30 per fuel cancellation is required

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Whilst hive is busy controlling your heating at home!
Shame it's cold, it's appeal must be limited at the moment..

Personally I love the idea.
There's plenty of people out there considering switching to a fixed Gas/Electricity plan, so why not get Hive installed as a bonus?
Pretty standard cancellation fee there.

Have some heat, for what it's worth
Edited by: "Nbaker" 6th Mar 2014

Original Poster

No quidco available though shame

i think for most you will find that British gas is not the cheapest, so why would anybody use a supplier who charge you more for the same gas and electricity as does another "supplier"? For you as a customer, all they are is a billing company, and who in their right mind would use one of the most expensive billing companies when cheaper ones exit? Not even for some sort of remote thermostat (which is all hive is) would i run to them.

If you are thinking of the hive, check out the tado. Much better imo, and you can rent it for about 7 quid a month, without changing suppliers (So you can stay the lowest tariff). They also guarantee savings, or your money back....

Had the Hive fitted before Xmas and love it, Coming back from holiday we were driving from the airport in the early hours and used the app to turn the heating on and up high so when we arrived home it was nice and hot.

Worth every penny and if you can get it free even better

The only one for me that was cheaper than British Gas was nPower, and having just left them (joined in January 2013, only now, about 6 months after leaving and constantly complaining, am I being supplied with a bill...) I'm in no mood to go back to them, so British Gas is at least more reliable for me.

Called them yesterday, for me the tariff worked out at £90 per year more expensive than N power, shame really as I wanted an Hive but not happy to pay even more for my fuel.

Hive installation worth £199?, **** off British Gas. No wonder profits are sky high, which fool will believe this nonsense.

walsall123

Hive installation worth £199?, **** off British Gas. No wonder profits … Hive installation worth £199?, **** off British Gas. No wonder profits are sky high, which fool will believe this nonsense.



Well they did charge £199 for the device and to fit it to the boiler, at least this is free and available for existing customers (which is what I've done).

steviecross

Called them yesterday, for me the tariff worked out at £90 per year more … Called them yesterday, for me the tariff worked out at £90 per year more expensive than N power, shame really as I wanted an Hive but not happy to pay even more for my fuel.



After my experience with npower (see my previous post) I'll happily pay £90 a year more to someone who is actually capable of producing a bill.

Was looking at this the other day, my understanding is that you need to remove all thermostats from all radiators and rely solely on the digital thermostat supplied when the install.
IF true I don't see the saving in heating every radiator to the max.

Anyone confirm..?

really intrested on this wikk rong later

tubbyhubby

Had the Hive fitted before Xmas and love it, Coming back from holiday we … Had the Hive fitted before Xmas and love it, Coming back from holiday we were driving from the airport in the early hours and used the app to turn the heating on and up high so when we arrived home it was nice and hot.Worth every penny and if you can get it free even better



The tado I was going on about has geolocation. It knows when you are on the way home, and turns it up automatically. :-) also turns it off if everyone leaves the house - even if the schedule says it should be on.

Another piece of clutter.

the fixed rates including stand rates are higher than what was being offered in jan & feb so therefore not so great as it seems

Anyone had the Tado installed?

I presume Hive stays fully active if you subsequently leave British Gas - I've just read through the T&Cs and can't see anything to the contrary.

Original Poster

Does anybody have hive know if you can heat individual rooms say just a bedroom on at night and the say living room off etc etc

Chick21

Anyone had the Tado installed?



Got mine on order. Expecting delivery any time soon. Don't know anyone with one, but have a long list of people wanting to see mine once installed...

pebrey

The tado I was going on about has geolocation. It knows when you are on … The tado I was going on about has geolocation. It knows when you are on the way home, and turns it up automatically. :-) also turns it off if everyone leaves the house - even if the schedule says it should be on.



Tado looks far more interesting than Hive, especially the guaranteed refund if you don't save enough with the rental scheme - it would literally have to halve my gas bill, which is not really very likely.

The problem I see with all of these, they don't really seem to embrace the existing energy saving technologies such as zoned heating and radiator thermostats, so I'd end up swapping individual room control for control over the whole house only, which is quite likely to cost more. If the systems could turn on different zones or control individual room radiators based on occupancy, then I'd be interested.

mike

the porter

Does anybody have hive know if you can heat individual rooms say just a … Does anybody have hive know if you can heat individual rooms say just a bedroom on at night and the say living room off etc etc



With only a single thermostat, I can't see how that would be possible, reading up, I can't find anywhere that indicates whether multiple thermostats could be used, and certainly there's no mention of individual radiator control. I suspect a future enhancement might be to add multiple zones, but individual rooms would require a heating system with a valve controlling each room - probably feasible with an underfloor heating system, but not with the typical UK installation.

mike

mbuckhurst

With only a single thermostat, I can't see how that would be possible, … With only a single thermostat, I can't see how that would be possible, reading up, I can't find anywhere that indicates whether multiple thermostats could be used, and certainly there's no mention of individual radiator control. I suspect a future enhancement might be to add multiple zones, but individual rooms would require a heating system with a valve controlling each room - probably feasible with an underfloor heating system, but not with the typical UK installation.HiI have Hive and No you cant control separate room heating, You only have 1 thermostat so that can only control the whole system. We were asked for feed back after a few weeks of using it and that was a suggestion being able to control all the rooms seperatleyI bet it will come later with wifi controlled radiator thermostatsmike

If you go for it, don't forget to switch via TCB/Quidco rather than direct. eg £24 via Uswitch on TCB.

Having crunched my last few bills' data in Excel, I'd want to switch away from this tariff the day after Hive is successfully installed!

Original Poster

terriclarkfan

If you go for it, don't forget to switch via TCB/Quidco rather than … If you go for it, don't forget to switch via TCB/Quidco rather than direct. eg £24 via Uswitch on TCB.Having crunched my last few bills' data in Excel, I'd want to switch away from this tariff the day after Hive is successfully installed!



Agreed

tubbyhubby



Don't hold your breath

I've had various home automation systems in my house, all with the promise of future enhancements, the current one controls security, turns on lights when rooms are occupied etc. had lots of promise for future controllers and devices, nothing materialised, then BG invested in the company and the much vaunted central heating controller never arrived, this may or may not be Hive, but I certainly wouldn't expect anything much in the future simply because there's not enough demand for high cost, low feature automated heating.

mike

andynicol

Was looking at this the other day, my understanding is that you need to … Was looking at this the other day, my understanding is that you need to remove all thermostats from all radiators and rely solely on the digital thermostat supplied when the install.IF true I don't see the saving in heating every radiator to the max. Anyone confirm..?



This will replace a room thermostat if you have one. TRVs on the radiators can be left but the boiler is controlled by the hive thermostat. If you have a TRV on the radiator next to the hive thermostat you should set it to max (to effectively disable it).

Sadly there's no zoned stuff, no automated TRVs that feed into this. I initially thought about taking the (completely portable) thermostat upstairs for the evening but haven't bothered.

Damn its £227 a year more than my current tariff....I was tempted otherwise!

wileycat

Damn its £227 a year more than my current tariff....I was tempted … Damn its £227 a year more than my current tariff....I was tempted otherwise!



I don't think anyone is considering staying with this tariff for the full year. Conveniently, my fix with Scottish Power ends in three weeks' time. I'm considering switching to this BG tariff for a couple of months (well, just until the Hive gets installed!) and then switching away again. The 2 x £30 exit fees would be mitigated by a £25 uSwitch cashback, and there'd be a few weeks of standing charge and unit rates to pay which are a bit expensive. But I still think it would be around £60 extra costs to get Hive, compared to the standard £199 installation fee.

terriclarkfan

I don't think anyone is considering staying with this tariff for the full … I don't think anyone is considering staying with this tariff for the full year. Conveniently, my fix with Scottish Power ends in three weeks' time. I'm considering switching to this BG tariff for a couple of months (well, just until the Hive gets installed!) and then switching away again. The 2 x £30 exit fees would be mitigated by a £25 uSwitch cashback, and there'd be a few weeks of standing charge and unit rates to pay which are a bit expensive. But I still think it would be around £60 extra costs to get Hive, compared to the standard £199 installation fee.

Its worth a thought, Is it worth the hassle and would they want some money back for the hive if switching out after just a few months?

steviecross

Its worth a thought, Is it worth the hassle and would they want some … Its worth a thought, Is it worth the hassle and would they want some money back for the hive if switching out after just a few months?



I scanned through the T&Cs and didn't see anything about them interfering with the Hive installation if you exit the tariff - you simply have to pay £30 per fuel to leave early.

mbuckhurst

The problem I see with all of these, they don't really seem to embrace … The problem I see with all of these, they don't really seem to embrace the existing energy saving technologies such as zoned heating and radiator thermostats, so I'd end up swapping individual room control for control over the whole house only, which is quite likely to cost more. If the systems could turn on different zones or control individual room radiators based on occupancy, then I'd be interested.mike



Well they don't make the situation with radiator thermostats any worse as they just control the boiler.

For full room level control there' the new Honeywell EvoHome setup but at £1000 to control a house and 12 radiators it's a lot to layout.
Edited by: "Bobbba" 6th Mar 2014

I have just installed EQ-Max a German system, works great and better than any of these so called automated systems. This system allows you to change your Danfoss (or other makes) automated valves for their wireless ones, install separate thermostats in each room, install wireless window contacts that tell the system when someone has opened a window in a room and shut down the radiators in that room. The whole system is linked to a Network box plugged into the router and a PC (the PC does not need to be left on) I can control each room from my Iphone, my wifes iphone or from any PC in the world. When one of the kids is away at a friends I can simply switch off that rooms radiators NOT expensive and I will post a link to the supplier on HUKD

I just checked and BG fixed until May 2015 is actually cheaper than EDF Blue June 2015 by almost £2p/mth, however the compulsory August 2015 offering is almost £25 p/mth higher so not a deal.

Vote hot for the advice on exit once the Hive is fitted and pay the £30 exit penalty. You only get the Hive voucher sent after 14 days so with the booking of the install (+14 days) and the one months notice thats another £50 minus cash back......

The EQ-Max does look smart.......

accman68

Vote hot for the advice on exit once the Hive is fitted and pay the £30 … Vote hot for the advice on exit once the Hive is fitted and pay the £30 exit penalty.



It'll be 2 x £30 exit = £60, as it's a dual fuel tariff. Although someone said earlier in this thread that if you switch to another BG tariff, you're excused the exit fees?!?

@terriclarkfan

Well spotted.... and a very valid point.... switch to the BG May Fix as soon as you have the Hive voucher in your hand.....

accman68

@terriclarkfanWell spotted.... and a very valid point.... switch to the … @terriclarkfanWell spotted.... and a very valid point.... switch to the BG May Fix as soon as you have the Hive voucher in your hand.....



As soon as you have Hive installed, I would think - seems very cheeky to switch as soon as you have the Hive voucher, although if you've met the T&Cs I suppose you could.

terriclarkfan

although if you've met the T&Cs I suppose you could.



I just called BG sales and told them what I intended to do and was pretty much told without 100% being told to do it that baiscally yes I could switch at any time to another BG product penalty free. They did say that I should possibly get a second confirmation from BG customer services... however they just put the phone down on me when I asked the question.

I have before been advised by energy sales to switch to a standard tariff to avoid exit penalties......

T&C's clearly make no reference to the Hive unit.... in fact it does say that the Hive unit must remain in the property in the event of house move. House moves are exempt from termination fees as far as I can see.

Happy Days!
Edited by: "accman68" 21st Mar 2014

I decided to go for this offer.

Got a £30 cashback for switching in, and got a letter today saying my supply will start a month today and I'll get my Hive voucher within two weeks of the new supply starting. No indication of how long the installation lead times are.
Edited by: "terriclarkfan" 25th Mar 2014

Guys I'm on Eon Energy Plan. Does anyone know how much more this offer is in comparison? I'm interested in switching.

Ok ordered
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