Free NEST learning Thermostat incl Installation from NPOWER
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Free NEST learning Thermostat incl Installation from NPOWER

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Found 22nd Oct 2014
You have to commit to a 12 month price fix tariff for both gas and electricity and be on a Direct Debit.

The NEST THERMOSTAT looks pretty cool and be controlled by an app - it connects to your wifi - you can turn the heating on just as you leave work.

I am NOT a fan of NPOWER at all - as I have found their customer service awful in the past - BUT this does seem a good deal.

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link dont work

Original Poster

Try this link npower.com

Original Poster

Details here http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/26/npower-free-nest-thermostat/

If you type npower.com into your browser it will take you to their page - can't link to it for some reason.

Dave
Edited by: "whiteswan" 22nd Oct 2014

Given that nPower are somewhat dearer than the cheapest tariffs, the saving going with others will buy a NEST outright in a shorter time frame

forget nPower , their CS is total crud, and they adjust your DD's without informing you, 5 YEARS of problems and still not sorted, truly abysmal!

Banned

Don't work with full 240 volt supply to your present thermostat. Thought most thermostats did have a direct 240 volt feed!

bruceboy

Don't work with full 240 volt supply to your present thermostat. Thought … Don't work with full 240 volt supply to your present thermostat. Thought most thermostats did have a direct 240 volt feed!


Actually there a two components. Heat link which connects to the boiler mains live, and the nest thermostat which can be wired from the heat link or operate wirelessly via usb plug and optional stand.

Great bit of kit, although I'd be tempted to pickup one up on ebay and fit it yourself. Not too difficult if you've already got a mains wall stat managing the call for heat.

Edited by: "superpacman1972" 22nd Oct 2014

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superpacman1972

Actually there a two components. Heat link which connects to mains live, … Actually there a two components. Heat link which connects to mains live, and the nest thermostat which can be wired from the heat link or operate wirelessly via usb plug and optional stand.Great bit of kit, although I'd be tempted to pickup one up on ebay and fit it yourself. Not too difficult if you've already got a mains wall stat.


Any more information would be helpful. I cannot find that on the manufacturer's website.
Update. Found it. Not suitable for my solid fuel system. Some other wireless controllers are.
Edited by: "bruceboy" 22nd Oct 2014

Original Poster

Wow - I can feel the NPOWER hate !! As I stated above I am NOT a fan of NPOWER but I thought this was a DEALS site - and surely a FREE NEST THERMOSTAT is a good deal...............

Oh well - I tried ;-)

Dave

N Power came out cheapest for me in all the comparisons I did. Switch took longer than planned but no issues with service - their app is good and the twitter team answer quickly.

superpacman1972

Great bit of kit, although I'd be tempted to pickup one up on ebay and … Great bit of kit, although I'd be tempted to pickup one up on ebay and fit it yourself. Not too difficult if you've already got a mains wall stat.



Me too but please be aware that this doesn't switch on your hot water if you have a water tank system like a lot of new homes come with these days. You will need either Tado or Hive for that ability.

Nest is also very expensive to do multi room with and doesn't support geotagging either.

Looks nice though!
Edited by: "one2omg" 22nd Oct 2014

whiteswan - I think the point is it's not free, you have to take out a 12 month price fixed tariff... Not a deal, cold from me...

Ive been with Npower for 2 years now and they ahev always been the cheapest and my DD has stayed fixed until the reveiew date and no issues so far.

one2omg

Me too but please be aware that this doesn't switch on your hot water if … Me too but please be aware that this doesn't switch on your hot water if you have a water tank system like a lot of new homes come with these days. You will need either Tado or Hive for that ability.Nest is also very expensive to do multi room with and doesn't support geotagging either.Looks nice though!



No, doesn't manage hot water - correct. Geotagging, on a thermostat? Not the first thing I'd be looking for TBH although they can probably figure out a pretty accurate location from your router via Google and your postcode and house number when you install it.

Anyway, it can run in multiple heat zones with the use of another Nest thermostat, but usually your CH system would also have to been modified to have multiple zones or smart TRVs fitted to get the most out of this or any of the others smart stats (Tado, Honeywell, Salus, Hive).

Think it is best to think of this as a smart heating only thermostat - a schedule capable replacement for your wall heating thermostat rather than your existing heat/water programmer. The smart bits are this...

Auto away - turns off when you leave house.
Unlimited number of schedule programmes and temps.
True Radiant - learns how your house retains and distributes the heat and modifies according.
Pattern learning. Learns you heating habits and adjusts. Option to not have schedule and let Nest learn.
Local temperate/weather compensator.
Fully controllable via Android/IOS/Mac/PC
Estimates time to reach desired temp.
Monthly energy usage costs and stats.

...and probably a couple others I've forgotten.

Nest Labs are owned by Google so I expect them to want to collect data about your usage and you at some point. Knowing Google they will be in it for long term big data opportunities, so you've got to be comfortable with that, and lets face it, if you've got a smartphone or smart meter fitted, you've already been doing this.

whiteswan

Wow - I can feel the NPOWER hate !! As I stated above I am NOT a fan of … Wow - I can feel the NPOWER hate !! As I stated above I am NOT a fan of NPOWER but I thought this was a DEALS site - and surely a FREE NEST THERMOSTAT is a good deal...............Oh well - I tried ;-)Dave



not when you're paying over the odds for the tariff to more than pay for the nest!

I looked into this and the nest tariff was over £300 dearer per year for the same usage!

Nest is only £180 to buy and i installed my own.

Great bit of kit, awful deal on here

Can't find the 1 year fixed, only the 2 year which apparently has a £50 exit fee per fuel if you decide you want to switch tariff or supplier before 12 September 2016
npower.com/Cam…320

DO NOT TRUST THIS COMPANY IT HAS PATHETIC CUSTOMER SERVICE THEY INFLATE BILLS AND EXPECT PAYMENT WHEN YOU DO NOT OWE THEM MONEY. HAD TO PROCEED TO SMALL CLAIMS COURT FOR HARRASMENT AND COSTS OCCURED AND THE EXECUTIVE COMPLAINTS ARE EVEN WORSE, LETS HOPE THIS COMPANY GOES TO THE WALL.

Yea, terrible customer service and would mess around with the DDs without prewarning but they had the cheapest tarriff for me. Fortunately that's no longer the case and so I'll be changing to Sainsbury energy next week.


THEY SENT ME A BILL FOR OVER £5000 FOR A SMALL EMPTY FLAT, TOOK ME TO COURT, SENT DEBT COLLECTIONS AGENCIES, WRECKED MY CREDIT FILE WHEN DID NOT OWE ANYTHING, DO NOT TRUST THESE HITLERS, NOW I HAVE PROCEEDED TO COURT FOR DAMAGE, THEY WERE CONDEMNED BY ENERGY OMBUDSMAN AND CONSUMER FOCUS AND THEY STILL HARRASSED ME. LETS HOPE THIS HIDEOUS COMPANY CLOSES DOWN, NPOWER IS A FRAUD,

LOOK AT THE QUOTE !!!
With the NEST works out at £20 per month more than without = £240 per year = You are paying for it ,Its not free!!!

I signed upto this on monday. I was on the cheapest tariff at edf and this worked out £10 more expensive over a year. something for nothing, i could always just pay the £50 exit fee if they are terrible. As a deal this is very good.

I bought a nest once with free fitting. Had to send it back, nest customer services and fitting services are terrible. No experiance of npower but by the looks of above can only mean npower plus nest = disaster waiting to happen.

Original Poster

Okay - so I boobed and thought you would all think this was good deal.

My reasoning was thus............

The NEST Thermostat should save you money on your heating bills.......SO A SAVING THERE.
The tariff is FIXED - so therefore you are insured against the energy price rises everybody is threatening this Winter ( yes i know its not the cheapest tariff - but if the prices rise then the cheapest tariff could be MORE than this Fixed one) - SO A POTENTIAL SAVING THERE.
No Huge Outlay if you were thinking of a NEST THERMOSTAT anyway - SO A SAVING THERE.
Finally - It Looks DAMN COOL in your hallway !!
If they are that bad - just pay the £100 exit fee after first month - and you have NEST THERMOSTAT FITTED for £100 - SO A SAVING THERE.

I thank you - and I promise I will try harder next time.

Dave
Edited by: "whiteswan" 22nd Oct 2014

Purchased one off ebay brand new for £85, really good bit of kit and easy to fit

superpacman1972

No, doesn't manage hot water - correct. Geotagging, on a thermostat? Not … No, doesn't manage hot water - correct. Geotagging, on a thermostat? Not the first thing I'd be looking for TBH although they can probably figure out a pretty accurate location from your router via Google and your postcode and house number when you install it.Anyway, it can run in multiple heat zones with the use of another Nest thermostat, but usually your CH system would also have to been modified to have multiple zones or smart TRVs fitted to get the most out of this or any of the others smart stats (Tado, Honeywell, Salus, Hive).Think it is best to think of this as a smart heating only thermostat - a schedule capable replacement for your wall heating thermostat rather than your existing heat/water programmer. The smart bits are this...Auto away - turns off when you leave house.Unlimited number of schedule programmes and temps.True Radiant - learns how your house retains and distributes the heat and modifies according.Pattern learning. Learns you heating habits and adjusts. Option to not have schedule and let Nest learn.Local temperate/weather compensator.Fully controllable via Android/IOS/Mac/PCEstimates time to reach desired temp.Monthly energy usage costs and stats....and probably a couple others I've forgotten.Nest Labs are owned by Google so I expect them to want to collect data about your usage and you at some point. Knowing Google they will be in it for long term big data opportunities, so you've got to be comfortable with that, and lets face it, if you've got a smartphone or smart meter fitted, you've already been doing this.



Geotagging is a great idea as it can switch on the heating when you're a certain distance away from home - great for busy lives like mine and many others I guess. And switch it off when you leave.

All the others that you mention will do everything and more than Nest does. I think Nest will get better in time though, probably on Nest 2.0 (that's not being derogatory either).

But for us that require your water switching on and underfloor heating controlled, Nest will not cut the mustard I'm afraid.

tecnoman

LOOK AT THE QUOTE !!!With the NEST works out at £20 per month more than … LOOK AT THE QUOTE !!!With the NEST works out at £20 per month more than without = £240 per year = You are paying for it ,Its not free!!!



Yup... You can pick the Nest up on eBay pretty cheap and my local B&Q had the brand new nest in for £110 last month too. i just didn't buy it.

...or post it on here - doh!

one2omg

Geotagging is a great idea as it can switch on the heating when you're a … Geotagging is a great idea as it can switch on the heating when you're a certain distance away from home - great for busy lives like mine and many others I guess. And switch it off when you leave.All the others that you mention will do everything and more than Nest does. I think Nest will get better in time though, probably on Nest 2.0 (that's not being derogatory either).But for us that require your water switching on and underfloor heating controlled, Nest will not cut the mustard I'm afraid.



Your requirements appear to be greater than mine in that I don't have multi zone heating or wet ufh and my water is heated mostly by solar. For me personally,it's fine as a heating thermostat replacement - which is what it essentially is. This also makes it easy to install to most standard heating systems.

Geotagging's only useful to me if it works flawlessly, risks of too many false positives - e.g if your in the locale but not at home, I guess that's why Nest aren't using it despite having the data to implement via an app upgrade. Instead they have the Auto-away function which operates in a similar predictive way. Regardless, for me it's much easier just to switch the heating on via the app when I know I'm heading off home.

So I'm happy with it.:)

superpacman1972

Your requirements appear to be greater than mine in that I don't have … Your requirements appear to be greater than mine in that I don't have multi zone heating or wet ufh and my water is heated mostly by solar. For me personally,it's fine as a heating thermostat replacement - which is what it essentially is. This also makes it easy to install to most standard heating systems.Geotagging's only useful to me if it works flawlessly, risks of too many false positives - e.g if your in the locale but not at home, I guess that's why Nest aren't using it despite having the data to implement via an app upgrade. Instead they have the Auto-away function which operates in a similar predictive way. Regardless, for me it's much easier just to switch the heating on via the app when I know I'm heading off home. :)So I'm happy with it.:)



Cool, it's good that you're happy with it and it serves your needs.

My post wasn't to bash Nest and to make you get all precious over it, I think it's a great bit of kit. I was simply highlighting the fact and providing necessary information that it will not serve ALL peoples needs, especially those who need to have their water switched on to heat up - as a lot of people will.

As for your guess about geotagging - a guess is a guess is a guess I guess? Google geotags everything else and it seems to work flawlessly, so I don't know why it hasn't yet put it in Nest either...

And as for this deal... well, it just isn't a deal at all is it.

Original Poster

I thought it was a deal - you can order it - have it fitted - then cancel the contract - pay the £100 exit fee and go to another energy supplier..............so you can get a fitted nest for £100 - isn't that a deal ?

Dave

Cool, it's good that you're happy with it and it serves your needs.My … Cool, it's good that you're happy with it and it serves your needs.My post wasn't to bash Nest and to make you get all precious over it, I think it's a great bit of kit. I was simply highlighting the fact and providing necessary information that it will not serve ALL peoples needs, especially those who need to have their water switched on to heat up - as a lot of people will.As for your guess about geotagging - a guess is a guess is a guess I guess? Google geotags everything else and it seems to work flawlessly, so I don't know why it hasn't yet put it in Nest either...And as for this deal... well, it just isn't a deal at all is it.



OK, slightly condescending response, but for the record, I'm not "getting precious", it's only a thermostat after all. There are a million more important things in life, just sharing my experience for the community. I've found reading other peoples experiences extremely useful in the past and simply wanted to share mine.

As for why Nest doesn't Geotag, that's probably because as stated the Auto Away feature attempts to fill that void already.

However, I do agree this is not a deal.:)

Cancelled nPower contract looks like a lot of complaints the nest isnt worth the hassle

Snoop7

Cancelled nPower contract looks like a lot of complaints the nest isnt … Cancelled nPower contract looks like a lot of complaints the nest isnt worth the hassle

As a product it is very good. would recommend buying one rather than tying in to a contract and paying more for your fuel

superpacman1972

OK, slightly condescending response, but for the record, I'm not "getting … OK, slightly condescending response, but for the record, I'm not "getting precious", it's only a thermostat after all. There are a million more important things in life, just sharing my experience for the community. I've found reading other peoples experiences extremely useful in the past and simply wanted to share mine.As for why Nest doesn't Geotag, that's probably because as stated the Auto Away feature attempts to fill that void already. However, I do agree this is not a deal.:)



OK so I'm sharing mine and pointing out to people that Nest WILL NOT HEAT THE HOT WATER if you don't have a combi-boiler. Very simple.
I also stated that OTHER PEOPLE - not you, may want the geotagging feature as it switches ON the heating when you're coming home so you don't to remember and, just like Nest, it SWITCHES IT OFF TOO when you leave.

My point is, that there are better systems around for the money - Tado for example. Also with Tado, if you don't have the big bucks up front you can hire it monthly too.

So yes, I know, we ALLLLLL know that you have a Nest thermostat and you LOVE it but... just because you have it, doesn't mean it's the only one in the world.

Soooooooo.... I hope someone on here finds my advice useful; If you have a Combi Boiler, you're good for a Nest. If not, look at your options.

I await your reply about your Nest...
Edited by: "one2omg" 24th Oct 2014
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