Friends and Family Rail Card (one year)
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Friends and Family Rail Card (one year)

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Found 21st Jan 2013
Went to buy a new Family and Friends Railcard yesterday; glad I didn't as there is on offer on from today until the 3rd March , reducing the price from £28 to just £20 for a one year card

Any adult (16 years upwards) can buy a Family & Friends Railcard. To use it, at least one of the group travelling must be named on the Railcard and there must also be at least one child travelling on a child rate ticket. The named Railcard holder must travel for the entire journey with any passengers who have been bought discounted tickets. Typically you will save 33% on adult fares and 60% on childrens fares
- ricoshay

--> Discounts are usually for Offpeak tickets only
--> Some train providers only allow you to use this if you purchase in advance, not on the train.
- vns146

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my partner is up and down the country on trains all the time what does this card give? 10% discount of something? x

mickydavis

my partner is up and down the country on trains all the time what does … my partner is up and down the country on trains all the time what does this card give? 10% discount of something? x



About a third I think, but it's only valid if travelling with an U-16

ahh i just seen! Wouldnt be much good for him then, thank you!

Original Poster

Hi ,should have explained, see extract from their website;

Any adult (16 years upwards) can buy a Family & Friends Railcard. To use it, at least one of the group travelling must be named on the Railcard and there must also be at least one child travelling on a child rate ticket. The named Railcard holder must travel for the entire journey with any passengers who have been bought discounted tickets. Typically you will save 33% on adult fares and 60% on childrens fares

You must have at least one child to travel
need to borrow a friends or something

Surprised schemes like this are allowed; it seems to be pure age discrimination.

For the Seniors (over 60), a 10% saving opportunity on their website at
senior-railcard.co.uk/onl…ne/
Current offer runs to end of Jan, but historically they have kept updating the expiry date.
MKD

terriclarkfan

Surprised schemes like this are allowed; it seems to be pure age … Surprised schemes like this are allowed; it seems to be pure age discrimination.



How is it age discrimination? An adult of any age can get one, the stipulation refers only to the accompanying child.

I see it as the opposite, a means of making travel cheaper for those who need it most. Be that families with young children (this deal), students, young people (16-25) or seniors.

That's a pretty wide distribution if you ask me. Would you rather this scheme didn't exist at all and it was full price for everyone 100% of the time?

ill be getting this , thank you poster

there is also something called a duo, where 2 full paying adults buy one get the other half price, must ask for a duo when you pay for your tickets though

DebtFreeWannaBeE

ill be getting this , thank you poster there is also something called … ill be getting this , thank you poster there is also something called a duo, where 2 full paying adults buy one get the other half price, must ask for a duo when you pay for your tickets though


I didn't know that but don't ask for a threesome though oO

DebtFreeWannaBeE

ill be getting this , thank you poster there is also something called … ill be getting this , thank you poster there is also something called a duo, where 2 full paying adults buy one get the other half price, must ask for a duo when you pay for your tickets though


Also, some of the train companies do a ticket called something like "groupsave" where I think 4 adults can travel for the price of 2 ... n.b. you can also do this with 2 adults + 2 children travelling for price of 2 adults which may be cheaper than the railcard method.

Anyway, we got a F&F railcard last year as had several rail trips to olympic/paralympic events etc ... sometimes wondered why as we were never asked to show it!

I have been ill for some time now but only get Income support, I am 52 , If I bought a child ticket it would still be cheaper for me to travel could I say he/she was ill at the time of travel ? Just a thought

well worth it if you make a few train trips per year. I have a student one which always worked out cheap with one child and one under 5, but will be getting one of these now youngest is over 5.

very handy deal. Thanks

sumatra61

If I bought a child ticket it would still be cheaper for me to travel … If I bought a child ticket it would still be cheaper for me to travel could I say he/she was ill at the time of travel ?



No. The child has to travel.

DebtFreeWannaBeE

there is also something called a duo, where 2 full paying adults buy one … there is also something called a duo, where 2 full paying adults buy one get the other half price, must ask for a duo when you pay for your tickets though



That's only available on a relatively small number of routes with a few of the train companies. Groupsave, which someone else mentioned, is much more widely available.

If you buy an adult and a child ticket it works out cheaper but who is to know if the child is not actually travelling with you ?? just saying

if you don't have a child with you, the guard may ask you to pay for your ticket and they are only obliged to sell you a single, so it may work out quite a bit more expensive if you want to risk it. I saw someone kicked off the train last week as they had bought a student ticket with no card.

terriclarkfan

Surprised schemes like this are allowed; it seems to be pure age … Surprised schemes like this are allowed; it seems to be pure age discrimination.



Having a flat rate of cost for public transport can be considered age discrimination. Public transport is an absolute necessity for a lot of younger people who otherwise would struggle to afford to get anywhere.

terriclarkfan

Surprised schemes like this are allowed; it seems to be pure age … Surprised schemes like this are allowed; it seems to be pure age discrimination.



How absurd. I take it it's also discrimination that young people aren't allowed state pensions?

The Daily Mail do a much better offer than this every year - and you don't even need to read the paper.

If you can hold out until June you can get a free two month Family & Friends railcard. Followed by an half price one (£14) just before the school holidays.

Here is the deal thread from 2012. It's been running for several years now. I first got one in 2007 and they've done it every year since. hotukdeals.com/dea…838

O2 Priority Moments were also giving 45% off F&F cards last summer too - worked out at £15.40.

deshepherd

Also, some of the train companies do a ticket called something like … Also, some of the train companies do a ticket called something like "groupsave" where I think 4 adults can travel for the price of 2 ... n.b. you can also do this with 2 adults + 2 children travelling for price of 2 adults which may be cheaper than the railcard method.Anyway, we got a F&F railcard last year as had several rail trips to olympic/paralympic events etc ... sometimes wondered why as we were never asked to show it!



I have a young persons card and have only been asked to show it once in over 500 ticket checks! I assume they make a guess as to the likelihood of you lying. I clearly look under 26 so obviously qualify for the card, whereas if I was 50 then maybe they'd be a bit more suspicious!

What's even better is if you buy the rail card when a child is 15 it still runs for a year, even after their 16th birthday. So technically you could buy one on the eve of the child's 16th birthday and run it until the eve of their 17th!

My children use the train for school and the eldest at 16 has to pay adult fare (no way round it!) So we got a friends and family for the two of them and they travel much cheaper than they would having to pay one adult and one single.

Thanks, OP, I needed to renew my F & F Railcard for use at half term, best offer I'd been able to find was 10% off.

You used to be able to get one of these using tesco rewards don't know if that is still true.

I nave had network railcards for years, never once been asked to show it. Feels like a waste at 28 a year

Dealier

That's only available on a relatively small number of routes with a few … That's only available on a relatively small number of routes with a few of the train companies. Groupsave, which someone else mentioned, is much more widely available.



ahh, i see, sorry. nice to know about groupsave as i didn't know x

Taksim_Red

The Daily Mail do a much better offer than this every year - and you … The Daily Mail do a much better offer than this every year - and you don't even need to read the paper.If you can hold out until June you can get a free two month Family & Friends railcard. Followed by an half price one (£14) just before the school holidays.Here is the deal thread from 2012. It's been running for several years now. I first got one in 2007 and they've done it every year since. http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/free-2-months-family-friends-railcard-with-daily-mail-1208838O2 Priority Moments were also giving 45% off F&F cards last summer too - worked out at £15.40.



I do this as well. We use ours prominently for travelling to away games. Saved us a fortune plus I don't have to buy the Mail. I have never been asked for the card though in all the years I've used it.

Also got some excellent bargains for 2 adults & 3 kids to London at weekends from Staffordshire. Less than £20 for the family.

Quick summary -

Groupsave is normally 3 or 4 adults for the price of two, if using a ticket machine etc you may find it in the railcards section - you dont need a railcard, just turn up and ask. if 4 adults travelling this normally outperforms railcards

friends & family is good if taking at least one U16 with you and covers up to 4 adults and 4 children per journey, if you can then wait for the annual Daily Mail offer in a few months. 1/3 off for adults

if travelling alone then a Network Railcard is probably the best bet, valid after 10am weekdays and all weekend, however normally restricted to the South East (roughly south east of Bedford/Banbury/Worcester/etc). 1/3 off for adults

Oyster cards are usually cheaper than travelcards if only making one return journey on the tube once in london. easiest way to get them is to ask at an underground station ticket office, expect to pay a fiver deposit plus whatever credit you want on it. no forms to fill in. travelcards give greater flexibility if you may need to make a few journeys around town.
Edited by: "squidworth" 21st Jan 2013

Good find. It's too late now. I bought this last week for £25.20, with 10% OFF.

cannibalwombat

How is it age discrimination? An adult of any age can get one, the … How is it age discrimination? An adult of any age can get one, the stipulation refers only to the accompanying child.I see it as the opposite, a means of making travel cheaper for those who need it most. Be that families with young children (this deal), students, young people (16-25) or seniors.That's a pretty wide distribution if you ask me. Would you rather this scheme didn't exist at all and it was full price for everyone 100% of the time?



Well It would probably be more like 95% of the cost for everyone if everyone had the same price. I remember this from Economics A-Level. It's actually called price discrimination and it's very beneficial to price things differently for different social groups. Cinema tickets and swimming are all priced differently based on age!

Awesome timing, my old one just ran out, thanks OP

Any offers on young persons railcard?

TCT

I do this as well. We use ours prominently for travelling to away games. … I do this as well. We use ours prominently for travelling to away games. Saved us a fortune plus I don't have to buy the Mail. I have never been asked for the card though in all the years I've used it.Also got some excellent bargains for 2 adults & 3 kids to London at weekends from Staffordshire. Less than £20 for the family.



We never get asked for it very often either. Sometimes I'll deliberately show the guard the tickets without the card just to see if they'll ask! ;-)

sonic1971

You used to be able to get one of these using tesco rewards don't know if … You used to be able to get one of these using tesco rewards don't know if that is still true.



I used tesco rewards last year, £14 worth of clubcard vouchers required.

I have just followed the link and tried to apply but they are still charging £28. Is there some special code that I should have entered.
Please help as im interested at the £20 price.
Regards

Banned

cannibalwombat

How is it age discrimination? An adult of any age can get one, the … How is it age discrimination? An adult of any age can get one, the stipulation refers only to the accompanying child.I see it as the opposite, a means of making travel cheaper for those who need it most. Be that families with young children (this deal), students, young people (16-25) or seniors.That's a pretty wide distribution if you ask me. Would you rather this scheme didn't exist at all and it was full price for everyone 100% of the time?



Perhaps you should go look at their other railcards?

They have an under 25 railcard, a family railcard and a over 60 railcard, if you are over 25 and under 60 without children you get nothing. That is age discrimination.

http://****.nationalrail.co.uk/tim…tml

And I would hardly say people with children need it most, I would say young people on low income jobs need it most, not parents who get child benefit and quite likely are on a lot higher wage then the average young person.
Edited by: "Reser" 21st Jan 2013

Cold for the fact you need a sprog to use it. I was going to rant how children, families and OAP's get everything ... but I won't.

"They have an under 25 railcard, a family railcard and a over 60 railcard, if you are over 25 and under 60 without children you get nothing. That is age discrimination."

Agree entirely. I'd rather they didn't give any discounts like this, and reduced fares overall by 10% for everybody.

Good deal cheers
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