From Bristol: Saturday-Tuesday 3 Nights in Venice close to St Marks £117.62pp @ Ebookers
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From Bristol: Saturday-Tuesday 3 Nights in Venice close to St Marks £117.62pp @ Ebookers

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Found 24th Jul
If you fancy a nice long weekend how about a little escape to Venice for 3 nights. This trip is from Bristol 22 to 25 September (Saturday too Tuesday).

Whilst you do tend to see cheap Venice deals on places like Groupon, they often include hotels in Lido or on the outskirts which is fine but it does mean travelling in, which although cheaper can eat into time and I loved spending evenings wandering aka getting lost in the little side streets of Venice.

The accommodation in this deal means you can easily walk everywhere and it is centrally located near St Marks.

Book flights ryanair.com £39.98

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Book B&B Biennale Venezia using code TRAVELNOW15 on ebookers.com £149.74 plus cleaning and sheets £35.56

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Total £235.24/£117.62pp

In Italy city tax is normally paid extra at your accommodation upon arrival.
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adz1955 m ago

Now, that’s the hilarity of your comment. “Both times” you vowed never to u …Now, that’s the hilarity of your comment. “Both times” you vowed never to use them again. So why did you go back for more? Ah. Yes, because they’re cheap! That’s how they get away with it, but the consumer is daft.


The flights were 10 years apart and the second time (after not using them for those 10 years) it was for a wedding in Spain and they were pretty much the only option for the dates I needed to fly on, so...34479527-F3t7h.jpg
Just a one Cornetto . . . . Geev eeet to mee. . . .
Edited by: "phillyboy" 24th Jul
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Just a one Cornetto . . . . Geev eeet to mee. . . .
Edited by: "phillyboy" 24th Jul
phillyboy2 m ago

Just a one Cornetto . . . . Geev eeet to mee. . . .


or me!
I'd choose Bristol over Venice for a wee break, any day.
rachelandgromit2 m ago

or me!


If it's mint choc chip it's definitely mine lol
phillyboy50 s ago

If it's mint choc chip it's definitely mine lol


Oh no that's my favourite, I'll fight you for it.
rachelandgromit56 s ago

Oh no that's my favourite, I'll fight you for it.


Gladiator style with those giant cotton bud things. . . While on a gondola . .
Sounds good but Ryanair!!?? No way
johnszi2340 m ago

Sounds good but Ryanair!!?? No way


This. Used them twice, both times vowed never to use them again due to delays. Terrible company. A friend only today missed his sons graduation as his flight got put back 10 hours, they then promptly lost his luggage when he then went for the trains instead.
johnszi2342 m ago

Sounds good but Ryanair!!?? No way


I've actually never had a late or cancelled Ryanair flight so I must be lucky. Now British Airways Manchester to London route . . . Every time.
cdm2216 m ago

This. Used them twice, both times vowed never to use them again due to …This. Used them twice, both times vowed never to use them again due to delays. Terrible company. A friend only today missed his sons graduation as his flight got put back 10 hours, they then promptly lost his luggage when he then went for the trains instead.


Now, that’s the hilarity of your comment. “Both times” you vowed never to use them again. So why did you go back for more? Ah. Yes, because they’re cheap! That’s how they get away with it, but the consumer is daft.
adz1955 m ago

Now, that’s the hilarity of your comment. “Both times” you vowed never to u …Now, that’s the hilarity of your comment. “Both times” you vowed never to use them again. So why did you go back for more? Ah. Yes, because they’re cheap! That’s how they get away with it, but the consumer is daft.


The flights were 10 years apart and the second time (after not using them for those 10 years) it was for a wedding in Spain and they were pretty much the only option for the dates I needed to fly on, so...34479527-F3t7h.jpg
Hurry. Last one.
cdm2236 m ago

The flights were 10 years apart and the second time (after not using them …The flights were 10 years apart and the second time (after not using them for those 10 years) it was for a wedding in Spain and they were pretty much the only option for the dates I needed to fly on, so...[Image]


I still think you’re mad, or a glutton for punishment, but fair enough.
Odd deal as there are only 2 rooms in the b&b. It is also only 12 minutes travel from the Lido to St Marks by ferry which is quicker than if staying at this b&b and walking, you'll probably also get lost walking from this b&b to St Marks (it's so easy to do) so again an odd comment by the OP trying to add bias to a not so great deal in my opinion which is wrong. And the ferry ride from the Lido has to be one of the best trips anywhere in the world. You can see St Marks before you even get on the boat and it just gets better as you get nearer. The OP should try it themselves one day. Flights are great but accommodation could be much better.
siadwel11 m ago

Odd deal as there are only 2 rooms in the b&b. It is also only 12 minutes …Odd deal as there are only 2 rooms in the b&b. It is also only 12 minutes travel from the Lido to St Marks by ferry which is quicker than if staying at this b&b and walking, you'll probably also get lost walking from this b&b to St Marks (it's so easy to do) so again an odd comment by the OP trying to add bias to a not so great deal in my opinion which is wrong. And the ferry ride from the Lido has to be one of the best trips anywhere in the world. You can see St Marks before you even get on the boat and it just gets better as you get nearer. The OP should try it themselves one day. Flights are great but accommodation could be much better.


I did, we spent time on the beach at Lido but didn't want to stay there. Getting lost in the streets of Venice is all part of the fun IMO but each to their own. You may get cheaper accommodation in Lido if you prefer to stay there. I agree though, the vaporetto ride from Lido to St Marks is great.

BTW Great to see you again @siadwel you've not popped up on my posts for a while.
Edited by: "rachelandgromit" 24th Jul
Check the news what happened in Hungary... they’ve told people that the plane is overweight so their checked baggages will have to stay and will arrive a day or two later. Or they can get of and cancell the flight but without any refund. So for me this company is a big 0. They take advantage of people and just a con. But as long as they’ll have customers they’ll carry on...
rachelandgromit1 h, 47 m ago

I did, we spent time on the beach at Lido but didn't want to stay there. …I did, we spent time on the beach at Lido but didn't want to stay there. Getting lost in the streets of Venice is all part of the fun IMO but each to their own. You may get cheaper accommodation in Lido if you prefer to stay there. I agree though, the vaporetto ride from Lido to St Marks is great.BTW Great to see you again @siadwel you've not popped up on my posts for a while.



Glad to hear it. I will pull you up on deals like this though. It takes 25 minutes walking to reach St Mark's square from your accommodation but in your headline you say it is close to it and is centrally located. It is not. STOP GIVING OUT INCORRECT INFORMATION. Breakfast at your recommended b&b seems to consist of coffee which you make yourself and prepacked croissant, no choice on food or drink, how do you recommend this ? As per usual you have also omitted the cost of getting from the airport to the accommodation, are you suggesting people walk to keep the price down or can we have a slice of reality in your posts please. The flights are good but who would fly with Ryanair at the moment ?
siadwel6 h, 59 m ago

Glad to hear it. I will pull you up on deals like this though. It takes 25 …Glad to hear it. I will pull you up on deals like this though. It takes 25 minutes walking to reach St Mark's square from your accommodation but in your headline you say it is close to it and is centrally located. It is not. STOP GIVING OUT INCORRECT INFORMATION. Breakfast at your recommended b&b seems to consist of coffee which you make yourself and prepacked croissant, no choice on food or drink, how do you recommend this ? As per usual you have also omitted the cost of getting from the airport to the accommodation, are you suggesting people walk to keep the price down or can we have a slice of reality in your posts please. The flights are good but who would fly with Ryanair at the moment ?


The description says "In the beautiful and lovely Green area at Just a few minutes from St. Mark square, very Close to biennale art ...'.

Reviews say 15-20 mins walk away. The water taxi appears to be around 20 mins too plus the extra cost of water taxis which you hadn't mentioned but as I say it's a choice on staying in Lido or in Venice. Breakfast in Venice, lots of places to eat at. I stayed in quite a posh hotel as it was a birthday celebration and breakfast was still basic continental style and we ended up eating elsewhere. I never include transfers in deals like this, like most companies offering such deals. You can get a bus which I as a recall was a couple of Euros, a private boat or other means. My choice wouldn't be other people's choice and vice versa when it comes to transport. It would be great if you posted here any other specific recommendations for hotels in Lido so people have a choice. I had a quick look and prices seem comparable to staying in Venice itself.
Voted hot as it's a good price. Personally, it's the most overrated place I have ever been to. The Italian Family we were staying with said they even find it difficult to find a nice place to eat.
phillyboy13 h, 51 m ago

If it's mint choc chip it's definitely mine lol


I lived in Thailand for 2 years, each time I saw a green cornetto in the shop freezer I'd get my hopes up only to have them dashed and realise it was green tea flavour... I fell for it everytime!
mcbain15 m ago

I lived in Thailand for 2 years, each time I saw a green cornetto in the …I lived in Thailand for 2 years, each time I saw a green cornetto in the shop freezer I'd get my hopes up only to have them dashed and realise it was green tea flavour... I fell for it everytime!


Did you try a green tea one?
I'm interested in what they'd be like
phillyboy5 m ago

Did you try a green tea one?I'm interested in what they'd be like


I think I did... obviously wasn't very memorable if I did.
mcbain4 m ago

I think I did... obviously wasn't very memorable if I did.


They had these in Japan. Actually really nice but I'm a green tea fan. I love pistachio ice cream too but you can't seem to get it anywhere. Does anyone remember when the pizza hut use to do this?
rachelandgromit2 m ago

They had these in Japan. Actually really nice but I'm a green tea fan. I …They had these in Japan. Actually really nice but I'm a green tea fan. I love pistachio ice cream too but you can't seem to get it anywhere. Does anyone remember when the pizza hut use to do this?


yes, I don't like green tea so that's probably why I wasn't fussed. Speaking of ice cream and Venice.

Gelateria Nico

wow, amazing. some cracking pistachio ice cream there.
cdm2216 h, 20 m ago

This. Used them twice, both times vowed never to use them again due to …This. Used them twice, both times vowed never to use them again due to delays. Terrible company. A friend only today missed his sons graduation as his flight got put back 10 hours, they then promptly lost his luggage when he then went for the trains instead.


I went to the South of Spain for the weekend. Meant to be a sunny country but it was cloudy both days.

Never again
Just returned from a trip to Italy. Did a day trip to Venice during one of those days and let me be truthful, half a day is more than enough for Venice, particularly in this weather. Took us an hour to walk to the centre square from the station when it's usually about twenty minutes. It was that packed. Once you get to the centre you can admire another river filled with overpriced venecian rides waiting for customers who will never pay those prices. And yes, more crowds... and pigeons... Mustn't forget the pidgeons lol. Just a heads up if you've never been. If you're determined to go, stay somewhere else in italy like Sienna, or florence, and take a separate trip to Venice
Edited by: "samhain81" 25th Jul
cdm2218 h, 51 m ago

The flights were 10 years apart and the second time (after not using them …The flights were 10 years apart and the second time (after not using them for those 10 years) it was for a wedding in Spain and they were pretty much the only option for the dates I needed to fly on, so...[Image]



If the wind blows your face will stay like that
samhain813 h, 49 m ago

Just returned from a trip to Italy. Did a day trip to Venice during one of …Just returned from a trip to Italy. Did a day trip to Venice during one of those days and let me be truthful, half a day is more than enough for Venice, particularly in this weather. Took us an hour to walk to the centre square from the station when it's usually about twenty minutes. It was that packed. Once you get to the centre you can admire another river filled with overpriced venecian rides waiting for customers who will never pay those prices. And yes, more crowds... and pigeons... Mustn't forget the pidgeons lol. Just a heads up if you've never been. If you're determined to go, stay somewhere else in italy like Sienna, or florence, and take a separate trip to Venice



Well you've probably gone at the worst time possible. If you're going to do Italy's tourist hotspots in summer, during school hols, you need to enjoy being part of the herd and the heat. Or you need to be smarter so you can avoid both.

I've been to Venice a few times and was there last year for a week catching the end of the Easter Hols. It was surprisingly hot and quite busy the last few days, but we had a great time and could easily have stayed longer.

In terms of accommodation (having stayed on the Lido and near San Marco) I like the Hilton Molino on Giudecca, if you keep an eye on BA Hols there are sometimes some competitive deals for this including BA flights. It's a large hotel which is handy if you have young children as there's space for them to run about. They offer a regular free shuttle across to San Marco (takes ~10m), which our daughter loved. Giudecca never seems to get too busy, so offers a decent refuge from the crows when needed and there are some reasonably priced bars/restaurants facing San Marco/etc.

In terms of the crowds, it's not hard to avoid the worst of it. Most of them Bus in, so its quieter early morning or in the evening. Also the Cafe's/Restaurants at the sites often have free seating as most tourists wont spend. So if you want to sit in San Marco (for example) during the peak, grab a drink. Also worth exploring some of the other islands during peak time or even Castello where the herds rarely venture, then returning to San Marco when the busses have gone home.

The issue is if you do a day trip you are forced to become part of the herd as you dont have the time to exercise such tactics. And as a result your advice "half a day is more then enough" becomes self fulfilling, because who really wants to be crammed like sardines in baking temps, even in the most beautiful of cities

The same is true of Rome, Centre of Florence, etc, etc.

NB: If you stay at the Hilton and have the time, take them up on their free trip to Murano. Its a great boat ride through the islands and you'll get a tour of the factory. At the end of the tour they'll try to sell you some very expensive glass, but its not a hard sell, you just have to politely decline. Then they'll send you back to San Marco by water taxi (shared if other guests are heading back, unlike the private boat on the way in, presume you get private ride back if you buy ).
Edited by: "Mentos" 25th Jul
Mentos23 m ago

Well you've probably gone at the worst time possible. If you're going to …Well you've probably gone at the worst time possible. If you're going to do Italy's tourist hotspots in summer, during school hols, you need to enjoy being part of the herd and the heat. Or you need to be smarter so you can avoid both.I've been to Venice a few times and was there last year for a week catching the end of the Easter Hols. It was surprisingly hot and quite busy the last few days, but we had a great time and could easily have stayed longer.In terms of accommodation (having stayed on the Lido and near San Marco) I like the Hilton Molino on Giudecca, if you keep an eye on BA Hols there are sometimes some competitive deals for this including BA flights. It's a large hotel which is handy if you have young children as there's space for them to run about. They offer a regular free shuttle across to San Marco (takes ~10m), which our daughter loved. Giudecca never seems to get too busy, so offers a decent refuge from the crows when needed and there are some reasonably priced bars/restaurants facing San Marco/etc.In terms of the crowds, it's not hard to avoid the worst of it. Most of them Bus in, so its quieter early morning or in the evening. Also the Cafe's/Restaurants at the sites often have free seating as most tourists wont spend. So if you want to sit in San Marco (for example) during the peak, grab a drink. Also worth exploring some of the other islands during peak time or even Castello where the herds rarely venture, then returning to San Marco when the busses have gone home.The issue is if you do a day trip you are forced to become part of the herd as you dont have the time to exercise such tactics. And as a result your advice "half a day is more then enough" becomes self fulfilling, because who really wants to be crammed like sardines in baking temps, even in the most beautiful of cities The same is true of Rome, Centre of Florence, etc, etc.NB: If you stay at the Hilton and have the time, take them up on their free trip to Murano. Its a great boat ride through the islands and you'll get a tour of the factory. At the end of the tour they'll try to sell you some very expensive glass, but its not a hard sell, you just have to politely decline. Then they'll send you back to San Marco by water taxi (shared if other guests are heading back, unlike the private boat on the way in, presume you get private ride back if you buy ).


If you mean going during the hot season, then surely that would rule out a lot of the year. There were very little children when we went, so the school holidays issue means very little. I traveled with my partner to Venice, from Florence (where we stayed), and we got the 6am train there, arriving very early at about 9am. Even then it was packed. Unlike Rome where we also visited, and didn't even arrive there till noon for a day of the sites, and that was nowhere near as packed as Venice. Maybe it's because the overall walking space in Rome is somewhat larger, but I just didn't enjoy Venice. It was too small, and too packed. That will hinder anyone's ability to see more. I can't see it being much different any other time of year. Maybe some, like yourself, enjoy being around large amounts of peoples in the heat in small spaces, but I'd suspect a lot do not, especially in this weather, as I mentioned in the initial comment. All the best
samhain811 h, 32 m ago

If you mean going during the hot season, then surely that would rule out a …If you mean going during the hot season, then surely that would rule out a lot of the year. There were very little children when we went, so the school holidays issue means very little.



No I meant avoiding school holidays, as that is peak season. Hence if you wish to avoid the crowds, a good starting point is to avoid this time if possible. Yes you will still see tourists, yes you will still see couples with children below mandatory school age, but you will avoid a large swathe of holiday makers who have school age children. Surely this can't be news to you?

Moreover, since you mentioned the heat, this period also coincides with the highest temperatures, so another reason to avoid. And since Venice isn't in the tropics, there's still 7-8 months of the year when the temp is 20c or below. Personally I find spring/early autumn the best time to visit Italy's tourist sites. The stifling heat of the summer isn't conducive to an enjoyable experience wondering around looking at monuments/architecture. If I do find myself there in summer I change my approach as outlined in my previous post. Spend the hottest/busiest part of the day away from the crowds or sitting at the cafes/restaurants other tourists largely won't pay for.

samhain811 h, 32 m ago

I traveled with my partner to Venice, from Florence (where we stayed), and …I traveled with my partner to Venice, from Florence (where we stayed), and we got the 6am train there, arriving very early at about 9am. Even then it was packed. Unlike Rome where we also visited, and didn't even arrive there till noon for a day of the sites, and that was nowhere near as packed as Venice. Maybe it's because the overall walking space in Rome is somewhat larger, but I just didn't enjoy Venice. It was too small, and too packed. That will hinder anyone's ability to see more. I can't see it being much different any other time of year. Maybe some, like yourself, enjoy being around large amounts of peoples in the heat in small spaces, but I'd suspect a lot do not, especially in this weather, as I mentioned in the initial comment. All the best



No I don't enjoy being part of the herd, hence I detailed how I avoid it

And having been to Rome several times as well, its no different. Go to any of the hot spots and you're crammed like Sardines during peak periods. Go to them before the bussed in tourists arrive or after they leave and its perfectly tolerable. The core tourist hotspots have very high density of people during peak periods irrespective of which one you visit. I can't see how anyone can reasonably consider Rome acceptable and Venice not in this respect.

Perhaps you ventured out further in Rome, off the commonly trodden path, away from the Tourist hotspots, which was precisely my advice for Venice. Take it or leave it, makes no difference to me. I've provided a counter balance to your assertion a "half a day is more than enough for Venice", others can decide which advice they find useful.
Mentos3 h, 10 m ago

No I meant avoiding school holidays, as that is peak season. Hence if you …No I meant avoiding school holidays, as that is peak season. Hence if you wish to avoid the crowds, a good starting point is to avoid this time if possible. Yes you will still see tourists, yes you will still see couples with children below mandatory school age, but you will avoid a large swathe of holiday makers who have school age children. Surely this can't be news to you?Moreover, since you mentioned the heat, this period also coincides with the highest temperatures, so another reason to avoid. And since Venice isn't in the tropics, there's still 7-8 months of the year when the temp is 20c or below. Personally I find spring/early autumn the best time to visit Italy's tourist sites. The stifling heat of the summer isn't conducive to an enjoyable experience wondering around looking at monuments/architecture. If I do find myself there in summer I change my approach as outlined in my previous post. Spend the hottest/busiest part of the day away from the crowds or sitting at the cafes/restaurants other tourists largely won't pay for.No I don't enjoy being part of the herd, hence I detailed how I avoid it And having been to Rome several times as well, its no different. Go to any of the hot spots and you're crammed like Sardines during peak periods. Go to them before the bussed in tourists arrive or after they leave and its perfectly tolerable. The core tourist hotspots have very high density of people during peak periods irrespective of which one you visit. I can't see how anyone can reasonably consider Rome acceptable and Venice not in this respect. Perhaps you ventured out further in Rome, off the commonly trodden path, away from the Tourist hotspots, which was precisely my advice for Venice. Take it or leave it, makes no difference to me. I've provided a counter balance to your assertion a "half a day is more than enough for Venice", others can decide which advice they find useful.


No, I was in the busiest areas of Rome; Colleseum, Forum, Fountain etc...

You've provided your rationale, as have I. I think its not worth it. You think it is. Let's just leave it there. All the best.
samhain8110 h, 48 m ago

No, I was in the busiest areas of Rome; Colleseum, Forum, Fountain etc... …No, I was in the busiest areas of Rome; Colleseum, Forum, Fountain etc... You've provided your rationale, as have I. I think its not worth it. You think it is. Let's just leave it there. All the best.



Venice is somewhere which you won't enjoy if you go at peak times I would agree. But even when its busy, early morning and evenings are nice and quiet. So its not really suitable to day trip to when its busy, I would avoid it.

If you are staying there in Venice as apposed to a day trip or a hotel in Mestre or the Lido, you will have a much better time.
rachelandgromit25th Jul

The description says "In the beautiful and lovely Green area at Just a few …The description says "In the beautiful and lovely Green area at Just a few minutes from St. Mark square, very Close to biennale art ...'. Reviews say 15-20 mins walk away. The water taxi appears to be around 20 mins too plus the extra cost of water taxis which you hadn't mentioned but as I say it's a choice on staying in Lido or in Venice. Breakfast in Venice, lots of places to eat at. I stayed in quite a posh hotel as it was a birthday celebration and breakfast was still basic continental style and we ended up eating elsewhere. I never include transfers in deals like this, like most companies offering such deals. You can get a bus which I as a recall was a couple of Euros, a private boat or other means. My choice wouldn't be other people's choice and vice versa when it comes to transport. It would be great if you posted here any other specific recommendations for hotels in Lido so people have a choice. I had a quick look and prices seem comparable to staying in Venice itself.


There you go again, you say a couple of euros from the airport, but it's not is it ? It's a minimum of €8 each way so hardly a couple of euros but hey, why tell the truth ? Not sure where you get the ferry time to be around 20 minutes either, it's 15 minutes, or how you say 15-20 minutes walk (Google maps has it at a minimum of 25 minutes) but there again yet more false information from you. Why ? Are you THAT desperate for approval ?

In your opening post you say that it's cheaper to stay on the Lido but now you say it's not. Make your mind up.

If you stay in a posh hotel it is NOT basic continental like the one offered in your post and you know this but you are desperately trying to justify your deal and that is just plain wrong.
It's a pathetic answer trying to justify your post and you're just digging a bigger hole for yourself. It would be interesting to know which posh hotel you stayed in that gave such a poor breakfast so we could see for ourselves. I have stayed at rivieravenezia.it and hungaria.it pound for pound cheaper and bigger rooms than anywhere I could find on Venice inclusive of ferry price. Another reason to stay on the Lido and not Venice is to get away from the masses that people complain about and relax a little yet still be so close to it.
The flights you gave are good, the accommodation and your slant on it isn't. Please stop giving incorrect information to people in order to gain heat.
Edited by: "siadwel" 26th Jul
I didn't realise it was €8 in fairness. I just checked my journal when I went and I had written we paid €3pp one way. I hadn't checked up to date information. Some people may get the bus or some people may get a taxi or even a water taxi. Certainly it's not €3 anymore.

The 'ferry' time I got from Google maps but then did it allow for waiting for a ferry aka vaporetto? I don't know! Walking - I was reading reviews from people who had stayed but does it allow for a slow walker, a fast walker, a runner?!? I don't know! You haven't said how much the vaporetto is if people did stay in Lido so it would be helpful to know so if people are reading this they have some useful info.

I'm giving my opinion of the breakfast I had in Venice. I'm not going to get into an argument nor do I want to give anyone wrong information. I've given a flight and accommodation options on this deal. Just like if you book a deal on Groupon, Travelzoo etc etc I'm sure people will do their own research into where they want to stay in Venice, how to get to and from the airport etc.

Lido is generally cheaper, but again I'd not checked these exact specific dates. When I replied I did have a look as curiosity got the better of me and actually there was not the price difference I expected and prices were very similar to Venice. Check now, tomorrow, in a week and it could change re hotel prices.

I don't need people to give me heat, I really don't care! I just like posting travel deals!
samhain8125th Jul

Just returned from a trip to Italy. Did a day trip to Venice during one of …Just returned from a trip to Italy. Did a day trip to Venice during one of those days and let me be truthful, half a day is more than enough for Venice, particularly in this weather. Took us an hour to walk to the centre square from the station when it's usually about twenty minutes. It was that packed. Once you get to the centre you can admire another river filled with overpriced venecian rides waiting for customers who will never pay those prices. And yes, more crowds... and pigeons... Mustn't forget the pidgeons lol. Just a heads up if you've never been. If you're determined to go, stay somewhere else in italy like Sienna, or florence, and take a separate trip to Venice


My wife and I just returned from two week tour of the north of Italy, it was a 40th present for me....my wife is awesome. Anyway, last two nights were in Venice, and I expected my experience to be just like you've described but it can be avoided! Using the Lonely Planet guide, a book we always get and never fails us, we booked onto a recommended food tour, there were 4 of us on it, very personal. The tour happened just after we got to Venice (stayed in an AirBnB btw, highly recommend) and it taught us where to go to both get the best food and drink of Venice and avoid the HELL of the crowds. I attach a photo I posted, taken July 17, as proof that quiet does exist there, places devoid of tourists and offers the real atmosphere of Venice. We came along this strip on the tour and knew we'd be back the next day..... and we had a reasonably priced bottle of fizz to our shock (called Lunatica..hmm)!
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It's sad the main tourist areas are now overrun like Ants nests, but now I know where to go (and there are lots of hidden gems not ruined by crowds) I'd happily go back to Venice; that said the Lonely Planet guide did say love it and leave it, as the surrounding areas outside of Venice are just as awesome, may do that next time.
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