From London: 2 Nights in China & 2 Weeks in Burma/Myanmar just £649pp @ Ebookers Total for 2
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From London: 2 Nights in China & 2 Weeks in Burma/Myanmar just £649pp @ Ebookers Total for 2

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LocalFound 18th Jun 2017Edited by:"rachelandgromit"
Here is a lovely holiday, with 2 nights in China and 2 weeks in Myanmar/Burma. By my calculations you’llhave 55 hours in Beijing, which means under the 72 hour visa free transit rule, you can stay in China without paying for a visa. This gives you a nice 2 nights in Beijing which I think is well worth doing, if only to try to get a visit to the Great Wall in. If you don't want such a long stop in China then you can probably shave around £25pp off but I personally think it is a good way to get to stop off in China very cheaply.

7th November 2017

You’ll fly from London Heathrow to Beijing on 7th November. Book flights on travelup.co.uk You need to book these as multi-stop flights: LHR – PEK on 7/11/2017, PEK-RGN 10/11/2017 and RGN-LHR on 24/11/2017. Total price for 2 £774.52 (if you struggle use Skyscanner or similar to enter a multi-leg flight). I'll paste the flight details in the first comment box as I'm only allowed so many images.

8-10th November 2017

You’ll arrive into Beijing on 8th November where you will spend 2 nights in Beijing at Beijing Wang Fu Jing Jade Hotel - £62.74 book on ebookers.com


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10th-12th November 2017

You’ll arrive into Yangon on 10th November in the late evening where you will spend 2 nights at tripadvisor.co.uk/Hot…lIt does say backpacker – but this isn’t a hostel and rooms are private twin/double with own bathroom and breakfast, and a bargain price to boot. Although with the flying and long journey you are likely to be tired and won’t have lots of time, you’ll return back to Yangon so don’t worry too much. Book accommodation on ebookers.com using code AFFCLOUD £44.09


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12-16th November 2017

You will take the bus to Bagan. It is a long journey and if it were me I’d probably go for the overnight route instead but I know a lot of people aren’t comfortable with overnight trains. Book on myanmarbusticket.com $31.20/£24.36

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You will spend 4 nights in Bagan at the lovely tripadvisor.co.uk/Hot…tml book on booking.com for £94. I’ve allowed 4 nights as you will arrive lateon the 12th and leave early on 16th so this way gives you 3 full days.


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16-18th November 2017

You will take the bus from Bagan to
Mandalay $21.60/£16.86 book on myanmarbusticket.com You will spend 2 nights in Mandalay at tripadvisor.co.uk/Hot…tml book on ebookers.com using code AFFCLOUD £37.93

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18-22th November 2017

You will fly to Heho for a lovely 4 night stay at Inle Lake. There is the option to take the bus to Kalaw and do the trek from there to Inle Lake – and this is worth considering for the more active people. For this itinerary you will fly. Book flights on airmyp.com $128/£99.92
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You will stay for 4 nights at the tripadvisor.co.uk/Hot…tml which ideally places you for exploring Inle. Book on ebookers.com £84.08 using code AFFCLOUD
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22-23rd November 2017

You will take the overnight bus on 22nd November arriving back into Yangon on 23rd November where you will then have a final overnight. I’ve picked the overnight bus for this route as it has good reviews and with the VIP seats you should have a comfortable night. For a flight you are looking at around $90pp plus accommodation in Yangon for an additional night. The bus is $48/£37.47 and can be booked http://www.myanmarbusticket.com2720613.jpg

For your final night in Yangon you’ll stay at Backpacker again (same accommodation you started at). Book on ebookers.com using code AFFCLOUD £22.04


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The only thing this trip does not include (apart from the obvious such as food, tours and attraction entry etc) is your airport transportation, such as taxis etc and getting to or from attractions etc. Luggage is included on flights and all accommodation and buses and domestic flights are included with instructions how to book as per the screen shots.

Total £1298.01/£649pp
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I coudn't support a holiady in Myanmar while they are busy ethnically cleansing their own people
10/10 for the sheer effort !
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Sounds excellent, think I'll have a word with the Mrs.
Hopefully all the pictures now appear! Just had to edit the whole post again - grrr. If any don't appear let me know and I'll re-upload them.
Hi Rachel - what an interesting itinerary around an AMAZING country.

Myanmar is getting more and more messed up as the days go by and so I would say to anyone who is in any way drawn to visit the country, GO NOW before it is totally b***ered up by global self-interest.

My wife and I visited for the first time in 2013 and made the "mistake" of only going for 17 days - we decided after a very few of those days that we needed much longer. We visited again in 2015 and again in 2016 and for each of those visits we spent 35 days. So we have spent a while in Myanmar but don't feel we have done much more than scratch the surface.

I apologise if this sounds like I'm being negative, that is not my intention at all. It is just that the country is big (almost 1/3 larger than Thailand and without the infra-structure) and wonderful, the people are kind-hearted and wonderful but the money men are working very hard to turn it into a cash cow to the general detriment of almost everything they touch.

Don't take my word for any of this, head over to the Myanmar Forum on Tripadvisor where there is a wealth of fascinating stuff provided by folk far more steeped in everything Myanmar.
10/10 for the sheer effort !
Great post
I went to Myanmar just 2 months back, its honestly an amazing place depending on the places you visit...The air balloons you can see is in the area called Bagan. Don't bet your money you will get you chance to get on one as it was cancelled when i was there due to the wind....You might get your chance as it is in Nov, but even relatively low winds cancels air balloon rides which was annoying. Whether you get to experience it or not, its just as amazing from the ground as you can actually climb some of these temples and you have a view of the distance....there are over 2500 temples in Bagan.
Thanks amazing deal
China 14 years ago on Aeroflot amazing rough toilets on long distance trains ..very ill
Burma 2 years ago and great ..no issues but costly
This would have been a gift
I coudn't support a holiady in Myanmar while they are busy ethnically cleansing their own people
7day

Thanks amazing dealChina 14 years ago on Aeroflot amazing rough toilets … Thanks amazing dealChina 14 years ago on Aeroflot amazing rough toilets on long distance trains ..very illBurma 2 years ago and great ..no issues but costlyThis would have been a gift



​The toilets on long distance trains haven't changed   oO Was there a couple of years ago and did a fair few train journeys.
Wow. That's such a good deal, have some heat!
kibrisli7

I coudn't support a holiady in Myanmar while they are busy ethnically … I coudn't support a holiady in Myanmar while they are busy ethnically cleansing their own people



Well said.
Cold. Myanmar is a brutal regime killing its own people. Would not support such a country.
kibrisli7

I coudn't support a holiady in Myanmar while they are busy ethnically … I coudn't support a holiady in Myanmar while they are busy ethnically cleansing their own people



I remember people saying years ago that they wouldn't visit Burma because of the military government. The fact is, the more tourists there are the more the country opens up (you can currently only visit very select areas), with more money trickling down to the impoverished population.

Whilst I am completely appalled at what I've heard is occurring in Rakhine state, I don't think it can be deemed 'ethnic cleansing' - the authorities are certainly to blame but there are atrocities being committed on both sides. The situation gets very complicated as while there has been a local ethnic group for centuries, there has been a long history of immigration from Bangladesh by: British colonialism for labour; when the border wasn't controlled after WWII; and during Bangladesh's separation from Pakistan in the 70's (genocide in its own right with >1 million civilian deaths). This even gets jumbled up with the Rohingya refugees fleeing Rahkine, with more than half of those in 2015 turning out to be economic migrants directly from Bangladesh (the most densely populated country excluding city states). As such, the terrible dictatorship which took power of Burma in the 60's denied Rohingyas citizenship, which in turn lead to a continued struggle for freedom fueling Islamic extremism resulting in terrorist attacks (with links to several groups including Al-Qaeda).

Apologies if any of the above information is incorrect, I don't mean to offend anyone or play down the seriousness of the situation, but the way I see it Burma has taken incredible strides of improvement in recent years. It went from being the wealthiest country in SE Asia to the least developed due to terrible government. Finally, after decades, it is beginning to open up. Boycotting the country over an issue which has existed for a long time is only going to slow progress on the path to democracy.
londongeeza

Cold. Myanmar is a brutal regime killing its own people. Would not … Cold. Myanmar is a brutal regime killing its own people. Would not support such a country.



Preach.
To all of you who have not visited and are likely not aware of what is really going on in Myanmar please read up on who is actually killing who, before you reject the country out of hand.

You might find it enlightening to start with this Wikipedia article, which, although not comprehensive, gives some idea of what is actually going on - en.wikipedia.org/wik…mar
After a London to Beijing flight, all I want to do is stretch out and get some rest; good luck having the will to sight see; plus I am fairly certain the transit visa rules dont apply under these conditions.

And you do NOT want to get on the wrong side of the Chinese Border Police, the paperwork alone will kill you.

(Regular visitor - Chinese inlaws).

Also, dont try to smuggle in any cheese; it sets the airport chemical explosives alarm off; and even if you manage to get away with it, it will be cheese soup by the time you get to the hotel - in any season other than deep winter.
(Been there, tried that)
kibrisli7

I coudn't support a holiady in Myanmar while they are busy ethnically … I coudn't support a holiady in Myanmar while they are busy ethnically cleansing their own people



voted cold.
Rather have 2 weeks in Tenerife - trying to book all of that just gave me a shudder!!!
This isn't something I would ever have considered but you have done such a good job of working out an itinerary that I am seriously thinking about giving it a go. I am "over 60" and just wondered whether this might not be suitable for an older couple. Don't consider myself past it and still really active but just a thought.
i cant support China either who eat dogs
Phylly1 h, 35 m ago

This isn't something I would ever have considered but you have done such a …This isn't something I would ever have considered but you have done such a good job of working out an itinerary that I am seriously thinking about giving it a go. I am "over 60" and just wondered whether this might not be suitable for an older couple. Don't consider myself past it and still really active but just a thought.


Go for it! I saw lots of people in SE Asia that were well over 60 travelling around. Infact it was one part of the world that I saw people of all ages enjoying.

To the comment about dogs in China, you may want to avoid Vietnam too as they were cooking dogs in the backstreet non-tourist areas of Hanoi.
bringbring

I remember people saying years ago that they wouldn't visit Burma because … I remember people saying years ago that they wouldn't visit Burma because of the military government. The fact is, the more tourists there are the more the country opens up (you can currently only visit very select areas), with more money trickling down to the impoverished population.Whilst I am completely appalled at what I've heard is occurring in Rakhine state, I don't think it can be deemed 'ethnic cleansing' - the authorities are certainly to blame but there are atrocities being committed on both sides. The situation gets very complicated as while there has been a local ethnic group for centuries, there has been a long history of immigration from Bangladesh by: British colonialism for labour; when the border wasn't controlled after WWII; and during Bangladesh's separation from Pakistan in the 70's (genocide in its own right with >1 million civilian deaths). This even gets jumbled up with the Rohingya refugees fleeing Rahkine, with more than half of those in 2015 turning out to be economic migrants directly from Bangladesh (the most densely populated country excluding city states). As such, the terrible dictatorship which took power of Burma in the 60's denied Rohingyas citizenship, which in turn lead to a continued struggle for freedom fueling Islamic extremism resulting in terrorist attacks (with links to several groups including Al-Qaeda).Apologies if any of the above information is incorrect, I don't mean to offend anyone or play down the seriousness of the situation, but the way I see it Burma has taken incredible strides of improvement in recent years. It went from being the wealthiest country in SE Asia to the least developed due to terrible government. Finally, after decades, it is beginning to open up. Boycotting the country over an issue which has existed for a long time is only going to slow progress on the path to democracy.



You got your facts wrong.
There used to be the kingdom of Arakane which comprised southern Bangladesh and the Rakhine state. This is why Rohingyas look like Bangladeshis. Now, if Burma wants to do an ethnic cleansing and get rid of the Rohingyas, Burma needs to give the Rakhine state to Bangladesh, innit ?

And, there was no Bangladesh until 1971. It was all India first and then Pakistan before. And, Bangladesh's city states are the most densely populated, not the other way round.

Just like Israel, I would not be giving my hard-earned money to oppressive regimes and I would not advise anyone to visit these countries.
Edited by: "zworld" 19th Jun 2017
zworld

You got your facts wrong.There used to be the kingdom of Arakane which … You got your facts wrong.There used to be the kingdom of Arakane which comprised southern Bangladesh and the Rakhine state. This is why Rohingyas look like Bangladeshis. Now, if Burma wants to do an ethnic cleansing and get rid of the Rohingyas, Burma needs to give the Rakhine state to Bangladesh, innit ?



Please, find me one reputable, internationally accepted source that
backs this up. Regardless, you're saying that we should go back to
territories observed a millennia ago, and displace the majority of
the population? Oh hang on, you said you don't support Israel? Have a
look at the demographics over time of the state.

zworld

And, there was no Bangladesh until 1971. It was all India first and then … And, there was no Bangladesh until 1971. It was all India first and then Pakistan before. And, Bangladesh's city states are the most densely populated, not the other way round.



Yes, as I said, Bangladesh (formally East Pakistan) separated from Pakistan. I'm not sure what your point is. And please look up the definition for city state, a country does not contain multiple 'city states'. However, I should correct my statement and add that there are a couple of island nations which are also more densely populated. Essentially, Bangladesh ranks #10 on the list but has >400x the average landmass of #1-9.
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ridders

Rather have 2 weeks in Tenerife - trying to book all of that just gave me … Rather have 2 weeks in Tenerife - trying to book all of that just gave me a shudder!!!



Couldn't be much more different culturally. Enjoy.
Thank you for the effort looks amazing
I went to Burma about 15 years ago. It was certainly an experience. Whatever your views of wether or not you should go, the locals were extremely pleased to see tourists.
We only went to Yangon in Myanmar - wish we travelled further. The thing that struck me was how expensive it was, especially with accommodation. The military govt seems to control prices still. There's also a ban on motorcycles in the capital which we found very odd having travelled straight from Hanoi where they're everywhere.
patrick_00042 m ago

We only went to Yangon in Myanmar - wish we travelled further. The thing …We only went to Yangon in Myanmar - wish we travelled further. The thing that struck me was how expensive it was, especially with accommodation. The military govt seems to control prices still. There's also a ban on motorcycles in the capital which we found very odd having travelled straight from Hanoi where they're everywhere.



Yeah apparently this was following an incident where someone on a bike drove up next to a car with a military general in it, and pointed his finger as if to imitate firing a pistol. The next day all motorcycles were banned (in Yangon only)
Shocked to see there are apologists for the brutal, murdering Myanmar regime. If you have an ounce of conscious you would avoid this place.
Just thought I would visit this thread. Burma my arse
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