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Fujifilm X‑T10 + XC 16‑50mm f3.5‑5.6 OIS ii Lens (£339 with cashback) @ Camera World
Fujifilm X‑T10 + XC 16‑50mm f3.5‑5.6 OIS ii Lens (£339 with cashback) @ Camera World

Fujifilm X‑T10 + XC 16‑50mm f3.5‑5.6 OIS ii Lens (£339 with cashback) @ Camera World

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16.3 Million Pixels X-Trans CMOS II
8.0 Frames Per Second
Compact & Lightweight Body
3.0” 920K-Dot Tilting LCD
2.36m EVF
EXR Processor II
Film Simulation Modes & Full HD Movie
Wi-Fi for File Transfer and Wireless Shooting

£499 - £160 double cashback = £339

Double cashback until Dec 1st

Free delivery.

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Great deal but beware if you decide to return it - Cameraworld have a 10% restocking fee for returns.

Not even sure thats legal !!

Original Poster

Warranty would be with Fuji. If the camera developed a fault you can return it to them. Having dealt with Fuji Customer service before, can only say they are first class.

Great deal, great little camera

is this better or worse than the olympus m10 mk2?

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jackvdbuk

is this better or worse than the olympus m10 mk2?


They are both good camera's
The Fuji has a larger APS-C size sensor which is better for low light the Olympus has more features..
cameradecision.com/com…-II

TK42

They are both good camera'sThe Fuji has a larger APS-C size sensor which … They are both good camera'sThe Fuji has a larger APS-C size sensor which is better for low light the Olympus has more features..http://cameradecision.com/compare/Fujifilm-X-T10-vs-Olympus-OM-D-E-M10-II



eng-lang.co.uk/apo…htm

jackvdbuk

is this better or worse than the olympus m10 mk2?



I've copied this excellent run down of the main contenders by EIGofre from a post in another thread.


(Warning: Long post incoming)

For a long term investment around the £500 mark (with an initial spend of up to £600), there are four mirrorless cameras I would be looking at:

*Fujifilm X-T10 with 16-50mm lens for £468 (£548 minus £80 cashback)
*Olympus OM-D E-M10 II with 14-42mm & 40-150mm lenses for £494 (£569 minus £75 cashback)
*Panasonic GX80 with 12-32mm lens for £449 (£549 minus £100 cashback)
*Sony A6000 with 16-50mm lens for £499 (no current cashback offer)

All four have their own advantages and disadvantages. Firstly to cover IQ and portability you've asked about specifically- The Fuji and Sony have an image quality edge, but all four are excellent and, as a new photographer, you will be a larger bottleneck on image quality than your camera will be! For portability, click here for a size comparison of all four models. They're all quite similar, with the Sony and Panasonic being a bit thicker with their protruding grip/viewfinder, with the Olympus and Fuji are taller with their viewfinder humps. They're also a very similar weight (san-lens), with the Sony, Fuji and Olympus all weighing between 380g and 391g, with the Panasonic only a bit heavier at 427g.

So with those two factors covered, as a long term purchase there are other things to consider;
*Lenses: Panasonic and Olympus both use the same lens mount and can freely use lenses made by each other, and third part lenses will obviously work for both cameras too. This means a lot of variety and generally quite affordable prices. Sony and Fuji use their own lens mounts, and the options available are less diverse and often a bit more expensive. The Olympus also gets a big value bump in that it comes with a telephoto lens at the same price that these other cameras only have the kit zoom lens.
*Autofocus and continuous shooting: All four cameras have excellent autofocus for static shots, to the point where it's not really an issue I would make a choice on. However when it comes to subject tracking, the A6000 remains uncontested as the best mirrorless camera at this price point for focussing on moving subjects (it also does it with a continuous shooting rate of up to 11fps, the fastest of all four cameras). The Panasonic takes second place, while the Fuji and Olympus struggle in this regard (all three of these cameras shoot at between 6fps and 8fps in continuous mode, which is very respectful but nothing close to the Sony)
*Image stabilisation: Both the Panasonic and Olympus cameras have image stabilisation within the camera body, essentially turning any lens into an image stabilised one and making it easier to get sharp shots at slower shutter speeds. It also means lenses can be smaller and lighter when IS doesn't need to be built in. The Sony and Fuji do not have this feature in-body and it must instead be built into the lenses.
*Video quality: The Sony produces the best 1080p video of the bunch, while the Panasonic also has great video quality, can shoot all the way up to 4K, and the in-body image stabilisation means you can get smoother video regardless of the lens you use. Neither the Fuji or Olympus are really worth considering if video is a big priority, on account of poor subject tracking and a lack of video-oriented features.
*Viewfinder: All four cameras feature an electronic viewfinder of a good quality. All are perfectly usable, but in order of quality they go Fuji>Olympus>Panasonic/Sony.
*Styling and ergonomics: Obviously there's a lot of personal preference here, there's the more conservative design and rangefinder-style Sony and Panasonic versus the retro inspired SLR-style Fuji and Olympus. Two big considerations here though are the viewfinder placement and grip- the viewfinder of the Panasonic and Sony are placed near the left hand side of the camera, which is fine for most people but can make it awkward for people with a dominant left eye as you have to hold the camera across your face, while the centred viewfinders of the Olympus and Fuji are better in this regard. The grip also plays a big part for some people, with the small "finger holds" of the Fuji, Panasonic and Olympus being less suited to people with larger hands than the more robust grip of the A6000.
*JPEG image quality: This is not something normally mentioned in comparing high end cameras, as one of the big draws of these cameras is the editing and tweaking they allow you to do with images by shooting RAW mode. However Fuji have found a niche for themselves with their excellent JPEG presets and film simulations, and it deserves a mention here.

So yeah, ramble over. In short, all four are excellent and whatever you buy you will most likely enjoy and be very happy with the results of. However there are a few significant factors that will make some cameras better suited to some people but not others. Want an affordable camera and lens options from day one? The Olympus is a great shout. Want something you can take to sporting events or just for kids running around the garden? The A6000 will keep up with them. Want something stylish and will produce great photos out of the camera without worrying about editing? The Fuji is awesome for that. Want to dabble in videography? The GX80 has you covered the best.

EIGofre
Edited by: "Tomb" 26th Nov 2016

Original Poster

jackvdbuk

is this better or worse than the olympus m10 mk2?



There is a review here that also gives a good comparison of the two:-
thewirecutter.com/rev…00/

I'm tempted but the lack of image stabilisation is off putting after reading the comparisons. Although this double cashback deal puts it at my price point. I wouldn't want to pay over £400 for the other ones.

I also don't really need a camera until around March/April at least so got to wonder if there will be better deals by then.

I have the fujix-e2 and love it however the price of lenses is steep. They are very good but I miss the price of my Nikon DSLR lenses.
I highly recommend any of the fuji x series cameras but please be aware of the additional costs if you want to expand.

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Sephiroth

I'm tempted but the lack of image stabilisation is off putting after … I'm tempted but the lack of image stabilisation is off putting after reading the comparisons. Although this double cashback deal puts it at my price point. I wouldn't want to pay over £400 for the other ones.I also don't really need a camera until around March/April at least so got to wonder if there will be better deals by then.



The image stabilisation is built into the lens with Fuji (same as Nikon). It works really well.

Can't see the price going much lower than this. This works out cheaper than a factory Refurb.

TK42

The image stabilisation is built into the lens with Fuji (same as Nikon). … The image stabilisation is built into the lens with Fuji (same as Nikon). It works really well.Can't see the price going much lower than this. This works out cheaper than a factory Refurb.



Oh it does have stabilisation then? That's good to know. I got confused by the first review you posted as it listed no image stabilisation as a negative. It's very unlikely that I'll be expanding the camera with extra lenses and the first review rated the Fuji higher at landscape photography which is where most of my shooting goes.

Original Poster

Sephiroth

Oh it does have stabilisation then? That's good to know. I got confused … Oh it does have stabilisation then? That's good to know. I got confused by the first review you posted as it listed no image stabilisation as a negative. It's very unlikely that I'll be expanding the camera with extra lenses and the first review rated the Fuji higher at landscape photography which is where most of my shooting goes.



Hi yes does, it is built into the lens and can be switched on or off via the menu or Q button.
There's a review on the lens here, this is for the MK1 lens, the image stabilisation is supposed to be even better on the MKII, the MKII can focus much closer also, to 0.15m which is handy for close ups.
admiringlight.com/blo…is/

have anyone received the camera? I am still waiting after more than 2week of order placement.

amoyguang2015

have anyone received the camera? I am still waiting after more than 2week … have anyone received the camera? I am still waiting after more than 2week of order placement.



Got mine within a couple of days. But I did spend a little more and go for the nicer looking silver version.

Original Poster

amoyguang2015

have anyone received the camera? I am still waiting after more than 2week … have anyone received the camera? I am still waiting after more than 2week of order placement.



Received mine OK. Took over a week due to courier ****ups. Very pleased have taken some excellent shots already.

Delivery was via DPD/Interlink, no problems with Camera World.

Original Poster

jackvdbuk

is this better or worse than the olympus m10 mk2?


Can't vouch for the Olympus but can recommend the Fuji - Photos taken are sharp and have good colours/contrast straight out of the camera. The user interface, EVF and controls are very good and the camera is a pleasure to use.

I ordered a black one on 27 Nov. The company emailed last week saying Fuji cannot, as of yet, confirm how long it will be until we get the stock. I am not sure whether I can get it before Xmas. This experience really broadens my mind on online shopping.

Original Poster

amoyguang2015

I ordered a black one on 27 Nov. The company emailed last week saying … I ordered a black one on 27 Nov. The company emailed last week saying Fuji cannot, as of yet, confirm how long it will be until we get the stock. I am not sure whether I can get it before Xmas. This experience really broadens my mind on online shopping.



It might pay to check with Fuji. This model is no longer showing on the Fuji store so may be discontinued now.
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