Fujitsu AAA HR03 Ready to Use NiMH Rechargeable Batteries 1000mAh - Extra Value 8 Pack (Made In Japan - Like Eneloop?) £11.79 Delivered @ 7dayshop
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Fujitsu AAA HR03 Ready to Use NiMH Rechargeable Batteries 1000mAh - Extra Value 8 Pack (Made In Japan - Like Eneloop?) £11.79 Delivered @ 7dayshop

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Edited by:"louiselouise"Found 7th Oct
Read through this HUKD post, looking for Eneloops - came up with these. It's suggested these Fujitsu batteries are made in the same factory as Eneloops** (see my Edit at the bottom of this post, and Post #5 of mine) - can't see this higher capacity mentioned on this older thread, though.
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Fujitsu FDK batteries are the perfect choice for devices with high energy consumption, such as cameras, cordless computer keyboards, computer mice, gamepads, toys and almost all battery operated household appliances.

In contrast to alkaline batteries, which can only be used once, and are uneconomical and harmless to the environment, the Fuijtsu AAA rechargeable battery can be recharged up to 500 times. In addition, Fujitsu battery offers the advantages of a battery and comes pre-loaded in the pack. Thus it is ready for use immediately after purchase.

Strong performance even at low temperatures (up to -20°C)
Fast-acting
Rechargeable up to 500 times
Minimum capacity: 930mAh

Combines the positive characteristics of an alkaline battery (immediately applicable from purchase) and rechargeable batteries
Up to 85% residual charge after 1 year storage
The stable voltage ensures longer operability than alkaline batteries
No memory effect, ie rechargeable batteries can also be recharged in half-empty or almost full backup
Supplies energy over a long period of time and saves costs

Technical Specifications:
Manufacturer: FDK
Type: HR-4UA
Format: AAA / Micro / R3
Capacity: 1000mAh
Voltage: 1.2V
Electrochemical System: Nickel-metal hydride (NiMH)
Height: 44.5mm
Diameter Ø: 10.5mm
Weight: 13g
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**Here's a more in-depth article about Eneloop and Fujitsu: famcart.blogspot.co.uk/201…tml which suggests Panasonic are actually made in China now - for some markets - from 2014, and Fujitsu (in the old Sanyo Eneloop factory - as FDK bought their battery plant) are made in Japan.

Another discussion about Fujitsu and Eneloop batteries, here: forum.lowyat.net/top…all

Discussion about Chinese vs Japanese (Panasonic) Eneloops: candlepowerforums.com/vb/…lts

..and see Post #5 below (from Wikipedia/Talk: Eneloop). Also Post #11.

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Original Poster

Looking at Eneloop offers last week, I commented on this older Enloop Lite (sic) AAA thread (Argos) hotukdeals.com/com…337 that I read this on a US site lightandmatter.org/201…ps/

Amazon.com sells AmazonBasics branded AA Pre-Charged NiMH batteries (originally with a black jacket, then white, now black or white). These are made in Japan rather than China and they seem to be rebranded standard Eneloops, and they cost less. They may be previous generation Eneloops, rating at only 1800 charges rather than 2100, but you’re still more likely to lose them or have them stolen before they die. You’ll pay an extra $1 for 8 AmazonBasics than for 4 standard Eneloops.

AmazonBasics are also available as AA Pre-Charged High Capacity NiMH batteries, with a black jacket and 2400 mAh capacity. These ones seem to be rebranded Eneloop Pro (XX) batteries, and again, they cost quite a bit less… about 50% less for a pack of eight (sometimes)! I have a dozen of these and love them.

No idea if this is true, might be worth a go if you're trying to watch the pennies - the article is 3 years old, though
Edited by: "louiselouise" 7th Oct

I use stay charged batteries in everything now...haven’t bought throwaway batteries for years.

chapchap29 m ago

I use stay charged batteries in everything now...haven’t bought throwaway b …I use stay charged batteries in everything now...haven’t bought throwaway batteries for years.


You are my new hero eco champion chapchap. Stay charged all the way for me too. Who would want a flat battery? What?

Seriously though. I had FujiCel 5-8 years ago with the orange top and some are still going strong but most of my rechargeable s are now either eneloop or uniross.
Who makes these?
I also rate these very highly
Edited by: "nougat" 7th Oct

chapchap21 m ago

I use stay charged batteries in everything now...haven’t bought throwaway b …I use stay charged batteries in everything now...haven’t bought throwaway batteries for years.


Surely that's not efficient for certain things though (TV remote, wall clocks etc.) where a normal battery lasts at least a year anyway? I have rechargeables for things like cameras, toys and electronics that use a lot of power, but for things where you hardly have to replace the battery, surely the cost of the few ordinary batteries it would use in its lifespan would be much less than buying a rechargeable for it?

For some reason (voltage?), any kind of rechargeable battery (even new eneloops) gets drained much faster in my bluetooth mouse than even a no-name brand alkaline battery. I have some cheap Wilko batteries and they last probably half a year in there, whereas freshly charged eneloops get the 'low battery' light after 6 or 8 weeks. No idea why.
Edited by: "Muir" 7th Oct

Original Poster

nougat2 h, 22 m ago

Who makes these?


I edited the main post with this, which may enlighten a little. TL;DR: Made by FDK, in the old Sanyo Eneloop battery plant, in Japan.

**Here's a more in-depth article about Eneloop and Fujitsu: famcart.blogspot.co.uk/201…tml which suggests Panasonic are
actually made in China now - for some markets - from 2014, and Fujitsu (in the old Sanyo Eneloop factory - as FDK bought their battery plant) are made in Japan.

Another discussion about Fujitsu and Eneloop batteries, here: forum.lowyat.net/top…all

Discussion about Chinese vs Japanese (Panasonic) Eneloops: candlepowerforums.com/vb/…lts

It gets even nerdier, with this forum post detailing ALL Eneloop batteries, 2005-17: candlepowerforums.com/vb/…016
and
Following the Trail of Eneloop Technology: candlepowerforums.com/vb/…ogy

From this Wiki "talk" page: en.wikipedia.org/wik…oop

Made in China vs Japan (Eneloop)
This article needs to mention the differences in Eneloops since the Panasonic purchase. The newer chinese version seem to be quite inferior compared to the Japanese versions.
I've had a look at the Edit history and their appears to be an edit war going on regarding the Fujitsu/FDK details. From what I can tell the newer eneloops are just Eneloops by name only and the original Japanese manufactured Eneloops are now Fujitsu (and other rebranded) brand ones.

From this forum: "It's speculated that when Panasonic purchased Sanyo, they only acquired the Eneloop brand and the Japanese factory that produces Eneloops was sold off to a third party to ensure that there weren't any anti-trust issues that would otherwise block the purchase due to Panasonic potentially controlling an excessive proportion of the worldwide battery production capacity." ( candlepowerforums.com/vb/…lts ) auhsor 03:37, 23 March 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Auhsor (talk • contribs)

I have written that first statement about FDK. It is very well known fact from within the industry (I have this information from the primary Eneloop distributor here who also distributes Fujitsu now) but you can find articles regarding that - which I did, everything has been cited, look at the old revisions. Panasonic owns NO Ni-MH factory at all from the Sanyo acquisition. They had to sell everything off to not get total monopoly. That ais also the reason why shortly after the acqusition many series of Ni-MH batteries were written off and never got any replacements.
So I would like to know the true reason why it is still being removed - Panasonic agents kicking in? Because that argument about "primary research" is just BS, there is nothing like that. This has been known for 6 years now, just that Panasonic of course never had any interest in spreading the information so little number of people know about that.

Edited by: "louiselouise" 8th Oct

Hot for Made in Japan, can't trust any of the trash coming out from Chi na

Okay I haven't followed, NiMH for a few years. I will look into it later

HK8528 h, 41 m ago

Hot for Made in Japan, can't trust any of the trash coming out from Chi na


The iPhone comes from China. Panasonic are also clear about the longevity of their products, the Chinese ones sometimes(older ones) less than the Japanese higher end.

It is there in the honest specifications just like you get from the likes of Apple.
candlepowerforums.com/vb/…016
Edited by: "LadyEleanor" 8th Oct

The person with the bluetooth mousemight find that his rechargables are defective, thus none Eneloop.

However a few electrical items are designed to not work at a voltage below 1.5V, thus much capacity of an alkaline battery and a lot of a NiMh one.
Edited by: "LadyEleanor" 8th Oct

They can only be charged 500 though compared to the eneloops at 2100

Original Poster

Here's a test/data sheet on "Fujiloops" (AA variety HR-3UTC) as mentioned on here budgetlightforum.com/nod…e=4

lygte-info.dk/rev…tml

The 1000mAh batteries in my Deal post are "HR-4UAEX", trying to find more details about this specific variety.

Even FDK themselves only advertise "Standard Capacity - White" (2100 cycles) and High Capacity - Black" (500 cycles) translate.google.co.uk/tra…rch

7dayshop also sell these Fujitsu AAA rechargeables in 4 or 8 packs:

Fujitsu AAA HR03 Ready to Use NiMH Rechargeable Batteries 900mAh - Extra Value 8 Pack (HR-4UTHCEX) £10.59:
7dayshop.com/pro…0x2 (weirdly, these also say "rechargeable up to 500 times")32207745-csPvE.jpgFujitsu AAA HR03 Ready to Use NiMH Rechargeable Batteries 750mAh - Extra Value 8 Pack (HR-4UTCEX) £10.19: 7dayshop.com/pro…xx2 these say "rechargeable up to 2100 times")32207745-6YCEx.jpg
This post candlepowerforums.com/vb/…l=1 is from July 2017, and it's a comment from ChibiM who collates the eneloop101.com/ site.
"The eneloop trademark is not in hands of a Chinese company, but a Japanese company called Panasonic. Since 2014 Panasonic has a Chinese factory that makes eneloops, but for the Asian, Oceanian, South American market. If you are in the US you get your Eneloops still from the Japanese factory, the same as which they originally came from. So they now are produced in 2 countries.

The factory is owned by Fujitsu, so your batteries are the same as eneloops and therefore good. If you want to read more about eneloops, I would suggest taking a look at my website, and specifically this: eneloop101.com/bat…up/ "


Can't see anyone specifically commenting on these HR-4UAEX 1000mAh "500 cycles" Fujitsus (which is a bit of a "d'oh!" on my part, as I assumed the equivalent Panasonic Eneloop 1000mAh/AAA would have the same number of cycles!).

"What is the difference between FDK's NiMH battery (HR-4UTA(4B)) and eneloop?" (translated from Japanese, August 2012) translate.google.co.uk/tra…xt=
Edited by: "louiselouise" 8th Oct

mman20058th Oct

They can only be charged 500 though compared to the eneloops at 2100


It is a result of reduced materials to get more electrolyte inside.
It is the high quality that still allows a decent and real 500 cycles.

LadyEleanor17 m ago

It is a result of reduced materials to get more electrolyte inside.It is …It is a result of reduced materials to get more electrolyte inside.It is the high quality that still allows a decent and real 500 cycles.

Thanks for the info

Original Poster

I wonder if the AmazonBasics LSD (low self-discharge) rechargeables are rebadged Eneloops?

They appear to be made either in Japan or China, which suggests Panasonic/Eneloop, if indeed that's who manufactures them.

Also, White Ikea LADDA (LSD) Batteries are also rumoured to be rebadges as well - some speculate they are actually FDK/Fujitsu.
32216425-u3SuJ.jpgAAA £2.40 4/pack (Brown) 500mAh ikea.com/gb/…83/

AA £2.90 4/pack (Brown) 900mAh ikea.com/gb/…74/

The Brown above are apparently made in China.

AAA £4 4/pack (White) 900mAh ikea.com/gb/…80/

AA £5.50 4/pack (White) 2450mAh ikea.com/gb/…76/

White are being compared to Panasonic/Japanese Eneloop Pro in this Youtube video (at 6:20). The White LADDA batteries are made in Japan.

White LADDA batteries are discussed here too: budgetlightforum.com/com…897
LADDA (White sleeve) AA 2450mAh tested: budgetlightforum.com/nod…233 Apparently the discharge curves look identical to the Fujitsu (FDK) cells as well, so it's rather confusing.

In any case, the LADDA White could be a great, cheaper alternative.

Edit: The Youtuber in the above clip (AirbourneSurfer) actually replied to me:

"FDK manufactures all Eneloop-spec batteries under license from Panasonic--including branded Eneloop cells. The factories in Japan are still tooled for the "Eneloop Pro" spec so any NiMH cells made in Japan are made at one factory, owned by FDK, and licensed to various brands."

Man, I'm probably more puzzled than I was before I started compiling this Deal post !!

On other forums it's implied that Panasonic (Eneloop) and FDK are completely separate from one another. Perhaps it is true that Japanese Eneloop (Panasonic) and FDK Fujitsu batteries are made in the same factory. Not a lot of love out there for Chinese Eneloop (Panasonic), though.
Edited by: "louiselouise" 14th Oct
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