Gaggia Classic £200 @ Amazon
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Gaggia Classic £200 @ Amazon

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Found 27th Oct 2011
Have been waiting for this to go under 200pounds for a long time. Just seen it at £200 inc delivery so pulled the plug and bought it. May be of interest to others.

Edit: I am referring to 200Pounds inc delivery by Amazon not the private seller at 190+10pounds delivery charge.

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The link seems to take me to a seller on the marketplace with 88% feedback. It's also available from amazon themselves for £200 with prime delivery...I know which one Id rather go for!

A great machine. If you've not got one already I'd recommend getting a burr grinder to get the best out of this. Also worth picking up a blank filter basket for a couple of quid ( http//ww…ml ) for easy cleaning.

Enjoy!

I got this when was on sale for about the same price a few months ago and I would like to confirm that it's a great machine.
I used to have Italian espresso makers, which make an OK home-style coffee, but are difficult to clean and don't last for too long; then I got a cookworks espresso that lasted for about a year and thought me that life is much easier with a coffee machine, much less cleaning, and better coffee.
I got this gaggia from UKHD recommendations and it works a treat. Much more robust than the cookworks one, easy to use/clean, but the most important is the quality of the coffee: just beautiful, thick crema and all, just like in a cafe.

If you got the money and you like nice coffee... go for it! they should pay me for advertising, shouldn't they?

beardyweirdy

A great machine. If you've not got one already I'd recommend getting a … A great machine. If you've not got one already I'd recommend getting a burr grinder to get the best out of this. Also worth picking up a blank filter basket for a couple of quid ( http://www.happydonkey.co.uk/hd0184-gaggia-backflushing-basket.html ) for easy cleaning.Enjoy!



Please can you explain the back flushing?

p-e-t-e

Please can you explain the back flushing?



same here, what about this cleaning? How often do you need to do it?... why?!

Keeping an espresso machine clean is essential to keep getting the best out of it.

It's harder to get the internals clean with cheaper machines, but commercial machines and better domestic machines like this one have a three way valve coming off the pump. This means that if you put a blank filter basket (ie with no holes in it) into the portafilter and then run the machine for 10 seconds or so, the pressurised hot water has nowhere to go and so gets forced backwards through the showerhead. The three way valve means that when you turn the pump off after the 10 seconds it dumps this dirty water through an overflow pipe into the drip tray.

This helps, but for the full effect you should periodically add half a teaspoon of some cleaner such as Puly Caff to the blind basket. A lot of the coffee tannins and residue aren't soluble in water, so you need a cleaning powder to help remove these (otherwise your coffees will start to taste off). You can also use this same cleaning powder to soak your portafilter and normal coffee basket to keep them clean.

I'm probably making this all sound harder than it really is. It does take a bit of time and effort to get the most from an espresso machine and to keep it properly clean, but it's quite good fun in its own way and really rewarding when you pull a great shot.

A warning though, once you start to master pulling a decent shot you'll find yourself very disappointed at the quality of most espressos served in coffee shops and will be wishing you could make your own!

Terrific machine. Was £275 a few months ago when I wanted to buy one. Bought one from ebay for £95 from ebay in the end. Plenty of them going around £120.

Not sure what filter it now includes. Some people says it was pressurised filter with a small plastic thingy. It's recommended to get a normal double / single filter instead.

Also make sure you save enough to get a decent burr grinder. I got Iberital MC2 which is on offer from happy donkey at the moment. Grind fine enough to choke the Classic!
happydonkey.co.uk/hd0…tml

... and I thought I am a coffee connoisseur

thanks very much for the advice, beardyweirdy, I love my little Gaggia so I will follow your kind advice. I am lucky the water is not hard where I live, but, true, the crema is not as thick as it was 2 months ago when I got the machine. It's a pity that the blank filter basket is not supplied with the machine, but I'll get it from the link you posted.

thank you, appreciated

Very nice machine. Which? 'Best Buy'. Score 71%

For those who would love this machine, but cannot afford £200, consider this £35 Which? 'Best Buy' Espresso Machine.

I've used mine about 600 times, & it's in 'as new' condition, so don't let the low price make you think it won't last. A good basis from which to progress to a Gaggia when funds permit.

these are great machines and will last forever as pretty much every part is available....you can also upgrade it to be more temperature controllable by adding a PID.

I'd also add support for the MC2 and if it was a choice of getting a grinder or a machine get the grinder every time! Oh, and be warned that making proper coffee is pretty addictive and geeky...you'll soon be eyeing up popcorn makers to use as bean roasting machines

This is a great book about coffee roasting and making....

amazon.co.uk/Hom…99/

Original Poster

Smuggling Pnuts

The link seems to take me to a seller on the marketplace with 88% … The link seems to take me to a seller on the marketplace with 88% feedback. It's also available from amazon themselves for £200 with prime delivery...I know which one Id rather go for!



There is the option for 200 with Amazon prime delivery, which is the one I went for!

The link posted was just the amazon page for it.

Original Poster

Can anyone recommend a decent but small grinder that can be put away? We do not have much space and I would grind an ounce or so per time. Yes I know it'd taste better to grind it more often but there's only so much space in our kitchen...

I've got a Dualit 75002 (also sold as a Starbucks Barista). I don't think they make them any more, but you can still pick them up in a few places. It's not as good as the Iberital mentioned above, but it's been used daily for a couple of years and is still going strong. I found instructions on-line that tell you how you can modify it to get a finer grind than its standard settings and once that was done it's been good enough for me.

These are quite small, but if size is a big factor then the De'Longhi KG79 on Amazon looks to be very compact (and square shaped which should help minimise the space you need). I've no personal experience of it but it gets pretty good reviews on Amazon and is only quite cheap:

amazon.co.uk/DeL…8-1

I have the DeLonghi mentioned by beardyweirdy (seen on offer here, of course)
works well but doesn't really grind fine enough for espresso. I have been using it with my Aerobie Aeropress and latterly the Cookworks Espresso from Argos.
My only negative is that the grounds seem to get statically charged and emptying the hopper can be messy!

akexuk

Can anyone recommend a decent but small grinder that can be put away? We … Can anyone recommend a decent but small grinder that can be put away? We do not have much space and I would grind an ounce or so per time. Yes I know it'd taste better to grind it more often but there's only so much space in our kitchen...


Have had mine for 4 years...use every day...geat quaily etc....
but think the company was bught out by phillips a while back.....
not sure if they do have same build quality....i might be wrong
but check it out....
still a good price ...hot

I have added 3 items to my Happy Donkey Trolly:
PULY CAFF ESPRESSO COFFEE MACHINE CLEANER 900 GRM
GAGGIA BLANK FILTER BASKET
1 x 500G BAG OF ITALIAN COFFEE BEANS

IF you want to see how backflushing is done there is a nice video of how it's done on youtube

I am however a bit uncertain about descaling. I have done some research about this issue and some people say that using a descaler might corrode gaggia's aluminum/brass boiler and recommend using baking soda instead, even adding a pinch of it everytime you refill your water tank, as this softens the water.

BTW this web research also came with very good reviews about this machine - pretty much everywhere everyone says it's great

There are a few different types of descaler. Commercial machines can cope with citric acid but this will react badly with the Gaggias aluminium. I use tartaric based descaler and it's fine (gaggia used to sell their own brand of tartaric acid based descaler, so that's a pretty good indication that it's suitable)

Happy donkey sell some called pulybaby that should do the trick, I'd add some to your basket if I were you (not that I'm trying to spend your money for you!) :-)

Damn, seems to have expired! I found this too late, have been searching for espresso rather than gaggia!

Any views on the merits of this over a non-twin baby?

Original Poster

Keep monitoring the price. Accoding to the price monitors the price does go down to £200 every now and then.

Edit: just checked! It's back at 200. Will send you a pm!
Edited by: "akexuk" 2nd Nov 2011

Amazing, thank you!

Original Poster

It's now 188 Pounds! I bought it at 200 and still not delivered - any way I can get the difference refunded?
Edit: Did it with live chat and had difference refunded straight away!
Edited by: "akexuk" 5th Nov 2011

akexuk

It's now 188 Pounds! I bought it at 200 and still not delivered - any … It's now 188 Pounds! I bought it at 200 and still not delivered - any way I can get the difference refunded?



Buy another one and send the expensive one back!

Failing that contact customer services, they did refund the difference once upon a time.

Resistance ... was ... futile.

Ordered one. At that price, I'm prepared to take a flyer on possible poor reliability as my credit card gives me a 3rd year's warranty. Couldn't bring myself to spend 2.5x as much on the Rancilio Silvia when I take milky drinks and would be better off getting a true twin boiler when in the higher price bracket.

Original Poster

LOL. Good job you have that card. Which one is that by the way? Also waiting for the machine. Will need a grinder soon!

Gotta be a burr grinder. I've got a Rancilio Rocky, not cheap but fab and breathed a whole new lease of life into my cheap Delonghi espresso machine. Expect it will last me a lifetime.

BTW the card was Ulster Gold. I think now that Egg Money and Nationwide have gone, it's the only one that does an extra year extended warrantee (plus 1/2% rewards on spend). Better than the other two cards anyway because they extended by 1 year up to a max of 2 years, whereas they extend a year on top of the manufacturers one or two year warranty - so a max of 3 years in the case of Gaggia. They also do 0% on purchases for 6 months, so not a bad card at all, bit of a no lose situation to get it for 0%, half percent cashback, and extended warranty.

Original Poster

Thanks for the suggestion but really cannot justify to spend more on the grinder than the machine itself! Hmm - decisions decisions. Got the Gaggia - tried it with crap supermarket espresso coffee and it's pretty good already!

Totally understandable!
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