GAGGIA Classic Coffee machine (RI8161) £149.97 @ Amazon
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GAGGIA Classic Coffee machine (RI8161) £149.97 @ Amazon

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Found 10th Jul 2012
Brilliant coffee machine for under £150! many good reviews on amazon and its the *lowest* price its ever been.


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Now at Currys for the cracking price of £129.97, Collect and Reserve Only.

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Good value - solid "proper" machine
Brought this earlier this year for £179

Its a fabulous machine - It could do with being able to froth milk for a bit longer before it runs out of steam - but apart from that, its great.

& at £30 off the price I brought it for, excellent value
androidmunkee

Brought this earlier this year for £179Its a fabulous machine - It could … Brought this earlier this year for £179Its a fabulous machine - It could do with being able to froth milk for a bit longer before it runs out of steam - but apart from that, its great.& at £30 off the price I brought it for, excellent value



We have this machine and have found that the frother works better if you microwave your milk first then froth. I think its a brilliant machine
Bargain hunter99

We have this machine and have found that the frother works better if you … We have this machine and have found that the frother works better if you microwave your milk first then froth. I think its a brilliant machine


Are you just mesmerised by the name Gaggia? if you have to microwave the milk before using the coffee machine, that's got to be a shortfall on the machine's ability.
I think the microwaving is optional I've had this machine for years, about 6 I think, excellent piece of kit, top quality (assuming they are built the same now as they were then)
I had the gaggia espresso for years and loved it, when it finally blew up I bought a delonghi magnifica ESAM4200, must admit, was more expensive but seriously worth every penny, I would say if you are considering this one, honestly consider spending the extra and go for the delonghi, its a beast, though the only problem I have since found is my family visiting more often just so they can have a coffee
I microwave as well just to get the milk started while the coffee is brewing. I've had the Colour version that has been used every day for 4 years without any problems. Only had to descale it once (but probably due again). That's an easy job and very cheap to get the tablets.
Edited by: "cassy34" 11th Jul 2012
oldrichie

I think the microwaving is optional I've had this machine for years, … I think the microwaving is optional I've had this machine for years, about 6 I think, excellent piece of kit, top quality (assuming they are built the same now as they were then)


so is the purchase oO What my post was trying to point out was if you have to use a seperate device to get the best results, it's a flaw.
Evz1974

I had the gaggia espresso for years and loved it, when it finally blew up … I had the gaggia espresso for years and loved it, when it finally blew up I bought a delonghi magnifica ESAM4200, must admit, was more expensive but seriously worth every penny, I would say if you are considering this one, honestly consider spending the extra and go for the delonghi, its a beast, though the only problem I have since found is my family visiting more often just so they can have a coffee


how can you compare a bean to cup machine to a espresso machine?
dont be blinded by the name, Delonghi EC330S at £84.99 on offer at Amazon. Had it two years Which? Best Buy has been a bit cheaper got mine for £64.99
Had it for 5 years, it's brilliant. Can't live without it!
Cracking price BTW! I paid just under 200.
Edited by: "mardeal" 11th Jul 2012
usually the lidl silvercrest machines are rebadged Delonghi's
I've gt the classic.But recently I have been buying these for work....

argos.co.uk/sta…htm?CMPID=GS001&_$ja=tsid:11527%7Ccc:%7Cprd:4232049%7Ccat:kitchen+and+laundry+%2F+small+kitchen+appliances+%2F+coffee+machines+%2F+espresso+coffee+machines+%2F

I think that it is a better machine. And 3 times cheaper.
Bargain hunter99

We have this machine and have found that the frother works better if you … We have this machine and have found that the frother works better if you microwave your milk first then froth. I think its a brilliant machine



So essentially you found that the frother doesn't work properly.

It's a reasonable entry level machine, had one years ago (have a Rancilio Silvia now).
Philips own Gaggia now though so internals may not be as good as they once were.
Had one for years. Makes great espresso but the steam capability is lacking. Throw away the daft turbo froth thing and learn how to 'surf' the milk. That said I might get good microfoam one out of every 50 tries.
spatter

I've gt the classic.But recently I have been buying these for … I've gt the classic.But recently I have been buying these for work....http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/4232049.htm?CMPID=GS001&_$ja=tsid:11527%7Ccc:%7Cprd:4232049%7Ccat:kitchen+and+laundry+%2F+small+kitchen+appliances+%2F+coffee+machines+%2F+espresso+coffee+machines+%2FI think that it is a better machine. And 3 times cheaper.




I've been thinking about a coffee machine for ages.... but didn't want to spend £120- £140+ on something whose results I may not like... I'll definitely be buying one of the DeLonghi's you linked to...... at under £60, it's worth a punt! Thank you :-)
No probs. In fact, the bloke in the office next door bought one on the weekend as he liked it so much too! And buy as much Illy coffee as you can store. It's on special at Tescos right now. It's expensive but you won't be sorry.....
Love mine, paid about £180 for it around the new year.

The little plastic tamper they ship with it (for squashing down the coffee grounds) is a bit rubbish, can get somewhat acceptable tamping by doing a "corner" at a time. Much better 58mm metal tampers are available online for around £25 and worth considering.

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Edited by: "uchuff" 11th Jul 2012
spatter

And buy as much Illy coffee as you can store. It's on special at Tescos … And buy as much Illy coffee as you can store. It's on special at Tescos right now. It's expensive but you won't be sorry.....


The Ily stuff is ok as far as pre-ground coffee goes however it's vastly better to buy freshly roasted beans and grind them yourself right before making an espresso.

Hasbean, Square Mile and Union all do great freshly roasted coffees delivered next day and hand grinders can be bought for as little as £30.
Edited by: "uchuff" 11th Jul 2012
scalpels

I've been thinking about a coffee machine for ages.... but didn't want to … I've been thinking about a coffee machine for ages.... but didn't want to spend £120- £140+ on something whose results I may not like... I'll definitely be buying one of the DeLonghi's you linked to...... at under £60, it's worth a punt! Thank you :-)



This is the rebadged silvercrest model I got out of lidl for around £30-£40, the have them in a bit, keep an eye out..

Heres another thread about rebadged:
hotukdeals.com/dea…e=2
more coffee
got a different one but qa coffee machine is always a good idea
If you buy one of these, for goodness sake make sure the jet frother is in the basket before you make your first cup.

make 100% sure you know how to prime it before you even go near it, get that wrong, and you'll shorten the life of the machine.

Illy coffee is good, and on offer too.
k13 wjd

If you buy one of these, for goodness sake make sure the jet frother is … If you buy one of these, for goodness sake make sure the jet frother is in the basket before you make your first cup.make 100% sure you know how to prime it before you even go near it, get that wrong, and you'll shorten the life of the machine.



Good advice. Replacing the basket with a regular non pressurised one is a common, cheap modification (£7 or so).
mspychala

how can you compare a bean to cup machine to a espresso machine?



Because the end product is the same - a cup of coffee, having had one of these and the bean to cup, I would say I wish I hadnt bothered with the Gaggia years ago and had gone straight to the Delonghi, I know its a more expensive product but its soooo much nicer, plus, its a talking point when people come around for a brew when they see it grind the bean etc fresh, if you like Coffee enough to spend £150 on a espresso machine, I would seriously go that little further and go bean to cup, plus some people may not realise they are not that much more expensive.
Evz1974

if you like Coffee enough to spend £150 on a espresso machine, I would … if you like Coffee enough to spend £150 on a espresso machine, I would seriously go that little further and go bean to cup, plus some people may not realise they are not that much more expensive.



100% agree on getting beans and grinding them freshly when making a cup, it's really the way to go. I would however rather have a separate espresso machine and grinder myself, rather than a bean to cup, although I can see how bean to cup would edge it for convenience.

One rule of thumb I heard was that green coffee beans are at their best / ok for 10 months, roasted for 10 weeks and ground for 10 minutes.


Edited by: "uchuff" 11th Jul 2012
[quote=Evz1974]I had the gaggia espresso for years and loved it, when it finally blew up I bought a delonghi magnifica ESAM4200, must admit, was more expensive but seriously worth every penny, I would say if you are considering this one, honestly consider spending the extra and go for the delonghi, its a beast, though the only problem I have since found is my family visiting more often just so they can have a coffee [/quote

I had a cheap £30 delonghi and loved it but ended up buying a baby gaggia. Used it twice and it broke! Plus didnt seem to let you make a strong coffee, so back using the old delonghi now. So if any knows anyone who fixes Gaggia's. .... ... .. .]
I have a Baby Gaggia which is excellent and take time to practice using your machine:

Other essentials include:
Grinder
http://shop.squaremilecoffee.com/products/ceramic-slim-hand-grinder

Milk frothing jug & thermometer:
amazon.co.uk/Dua…_15?s=kitchen&ie=UTF8&qid=1342019827&sr=1-15

Good quality beans:
http://shop.squaremilecoffee.com/

I visit the best coffee shops in London and this is as close as you can get to that experience at home. Anything less is the junk you get served in Starbucks/Costa. Until you've been to Flat White, Kaffeine, Nude etc you haven't tasted a proper coffee!
I like to have a larger cup of coffee, cafe au latte rather than expresso so I get a weaker larger coffee and like more milk which is why I microwave the milk before frothing, for a small expresso I think the machines frother is ok. I found I liked my milk hotter without letting my coffee getting go cold waiting for a larger amount of milk to warm up.

I mentioned the microwave tip as I get the coffee just how I like it.

Happy coffee making
I have owned my Gaggia for a year or so now (second hand when bought) and never had any issues - fantastic machine that with a bit of practice (and fresh coffee - grind it yourself if possible) can give an excellent cup of coffee. It will take practice though if you are new to the whole business of coffee making - but stick with it, it is worth it!
Never had an issue with it running out of steam when frothing the milk - you don't have to stop when the 'ready' light goes off.. just keep going, it works fine!
Fair price for a decent coffee machine. Thanks OP.
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I bought one of these machines in May this year when they dropped in price to £174. Absolutely love it - my observations:

the tamper is crap - I agree with previous posts about tamping 'corners' and the need to buy a 'proper' one
the steam wand is too long so requires you to tip the milk jug up potentially spilling milk/foam
you can balance/trap a milk jug between the drip tray and wand to allow you to do other things while the milk is steaming
there is little room between the portafilter and the drip tray so espresso or cappuccino cups are a must - pour the espresso into a latte cup if you want a latte
there is plenty of steam for at least 2 cups of latte/cappuccino (once you've switched the steam on, ensure you wait until the thermostat light comes back on before opening the steam valve)
the spoon is pretty rubbish but will suffice
if you contact Philips and ask nicely, they will send you a double and single non-pressurised basket free of charge
buy a decent burr grinder that will grind fine enough for espresso - I've just bought the Bodum Bistro and am very pleased with it (need the finest setting for a decent crema). It cost £79 but is worth it
buy a tamper mat, milk jug, thermostat and a knock box (saves you wrecking your bin) - I got all of these from here
clean it regularly
don't drink espresso's after 8pm or you'll never sleep


Edited by: "miffyl" 11th Jul 2012
Amazon have clicked on and increased the price to £199.00
Still £149 @ comet though
The DeLonghi ESAM4200 is down to £240.99 at Argos at the moment (in store only). If you can stretch to it, it's a much better buy than this (particularly when you factor in the cost of a decent tamper, tamping mat and proper grinder into the cost of the Gaggia). I know because I have both.

Struggled on with the Gaggia for four years. She produced good results and I did like the handcrafted aspect of making coffee but she was a cruel mistress if you ever made even a slight error in grinding, dosage, tamping or extraction time.

The DeLonghi is automated so it loses the artisan aspect but for me this is far outweighed by the fact that user error is consequently much less of a problem. Excellent results every time.

EDITS: Forgot to add, no need to buy a knock box with a bean-to-cup machine either.
And maverikk, that Hario hand grinder is excellent for coarse grind but if anyone buys it expecting to use it with an espresso machine they'll have a rather long wait for each shot! Fine grind is possible with it but takes ages and a lot of effort. A spend of at least £50 (or more likely closer to £100) on a good electric burr grinder is a more realistic prospect.

If anyone can't afford the bean-to-cup DeLonghi, then I recommend that they buy the cheapest DeLonghi pump espresso machine, which costs £55.99 at Argos at the moment. I used one in work for a few years. It was very reliable and produced espresso of as good quality as the Gaggia's espresso but was also more forgiving. Never used the steam wand on it, though. Espresso only.
Edited by: "Espresso" 12th Jul 2012
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Really good internals on the Gaggia, brass bits where it matters although obviously not in the Rancilio Silvia league.
Dont know anything about the delonghi but at such a cheap price they must have scrimped somewhere? Grinder any good? Its not thermoblock is it
layzee

Had one for years. Makes great espresso but the steam capability is … Had one for years. Makes great espresso but the steam capability is lacking. Throw away the daft turbo froth thing and learn how to 'surf' the milk. That said I might get good microfoam one out of every 50 tries.



Agree 100%, I would advise everyone with a Classic to get a Rancilio Silvia steam wand which can be fitted in seconds and will give you excellent microfoam every time. I got mine and several other useful bits from espressoservices.co.uk/gag…tml . Try a bottomless portafilter, excellent coffee when you get it right!


Mascherano

Really good internals on the Gaggia, brass bits where it matters although … Really good internals on the Gaggia, brass bits where it matters although obviously not in the Rancilio Silvia league.Dont know anything about the delonghi but at such a cheap price they must have scrimped somewhere? Grinder any good? Its not thermoblock is it



Sadly the place where the Classic doesn't have brass is the boiler which is aluminum, not a huge crime but you would not get any of the better machines using it.
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