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Gaming Laptop, GTX 950m, £479, Tesco direct
Gaming Laptop, GTX 950m, £479, Tesco direct

Gaming Laptop, GTX 950m, £479, Tesco direct

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CPU - i3 6100u

GPU - GTX 950M (AMAZING FOR THE PRICE)

RAM - 8GB

HDD - 1TB 5400

Screen - 1080p LCD

Drives - DVD

For the price this is an absolute steal. Although the processor is modest, combined with that beefy Nvidia GTX 950M, you will be able to play any game. Perfect for those who want to game on the go, but don't want to remortgage their house.

Make is an Acer, screen size is 15.6"

Fairly important facts to include in the OP or title.
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the GPU fits the minimum of any game this year but may not be that futureproof sadly, I am concerned the CPU wont be strong enough for some games though, it's a hell of a bottleneck if its not

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phil36

the GPU fits the minimum of any game this year but may not be that … the GPU fits the minimum of any game this year but may not be that futureproof sadly, I am concerned the CPU wont be strong enough for some games though, it's a hell of a bottleneck if its not



Most games are not optimised to use more than one CPU core, so you wouldn't see a huge difference in performance combining a GTX 950m with a quadcore i7 compared to this dual core i3. Granted some games are optimised and there would be a good bit of difference for those titles. Having previously owned a laptop with a GTX 950m I can assure you that by adjusting resolution and graphics settings, this laptop will play any game at a reasonable FPS.

I really cant fault this at the price. I know that CES is upcoming and there's going to hopefully be a lot of change in the laptop space very soon but for the price you're getting quite a lot of computer. Yes the processor might not be the greatest thing in the world but it should work well alongside the graphics card. RAM is reasonable, decent capacity hard disk (SSD is a lot of an ask with the rest of the specs). Full HD screen is a nice feature to see but remains to be seen just how good the screens on these will be.

Werid CPU to pair the GPU with.

BOPthecop

Most games are not optimised to use more than one CPU core, so you … Most games are not optimised to use more than one CPU core, so you wouldn't see a huge difference in performance combining a GTX 950m with a quadcore i7 compared to this dual core i3. Granted some games are optimised and there would be a good bit of difference for those titles. Having previously owned a laptop with a GTX 950m I can assure you that by adjusting resolution and graphics settings, this laptop will play any game at a reasonable FPS.



This is more true on previous gen stuff. Current gen on DX12/Vulkan/well programmed from 2010 onwards should support at least 2 cores in gaming. Also CPU is seriously lacking imo - low end, low voltage, u series makes you think less power for more battery life, and then they put dedicated gpu.

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3-6100U+%40+2.30GHz&id=2623

To give you an idea, it runs like an i5-M series ivybridge, and paired with mechanical hdd, will prob be a bit slow.
If you are gonna get this, wait until after xmas and see if it drops in price.

BOPthecop

Most games are not optimised to use more than one CPU core, so you … Most games are not optimised to use more than one CPU core, so you wouldn't see a huge difference in performance combining a GTX 950m with a quadcore i7 compared to this dual core i3. Granted some games are optimised and there would be a good bit of difference for those titles. Having previously owned a laptop with a GTX 950m I can assure you that by adjusting resolution and graphics settings, this laptop will play any game at a reasonable FPS.



Sorry but that's an antiquated view and hasn't been true for years at this point.

All of the modern main engines like Unreal, Crytek and Unity 5 use multi-cores.

Nearly all AAA releases this year were optimised for multicore including Forza Horizon 3, Watch Dogs 2 and BF1.

Moving forward into Vulkan and DX12 multiple cores are able to address the GPU simultaneously which previously wasn't possible and cores will become a direct factor.

This laptop is better than most in terms of price to gaming performance. Much better than an i7 with Intel gfx, but the i3 will struggle very quickly. i3 is aimed much more at light gaming and user duty like web browsing, HD video viewing.

This doesn't mean it can't game, but pretending there would be little difference with an i5 or i7 is just misleading.

Ugh i3 COLD

Darkle

Sorry but that's an antiquated view and hasn't been true for years at … Sorry but that's an antiquated view and hasn't been true for years at this point.All of the modern main engines like Unreal, Crytek and Unity 5 use multi-cores.Nearly all AAA releases this year were optimised for multicore including Forza Horizon 3, Watch Dogs 2 and BF1.Moving forward into Vulkan and DX12 multiple cores are able to address the GPU simultaneously which previously wasn't possible and cores will become a direct factor.This laptop is better than most in terms of price to gaming performance. Much better than an i7 with Intel gfx, but the i3 will struggle very quickly. i3 is aimed much more at light gaming and user duty like web browsing, HD video viewing. This doesn't mean it can't game, but pretending there would be little difference with an i5 or i7 is just misleading.



Nvidia users haven't seen much, if any, improvement in DX12 games. Yes, AMD users have seen some gains but they aren't earth shattering like was promised.

I'm not sure the cpu will be a bottleneck for the gpu. Gaming laptops are a strange phenomenon in my book. A cheap Xbox or PS4 along with a cheaper laptop offers much more overall. If you want to do PC gaming justice it's probably best to build one.

Decent price with a gtx 950m and full HD screen, cpu not the greatest for games though probably bottleneck some games and I would replace that slow hard drive.

BOPthecop

Most games are not optimised to use more than one CPU core, so you … Most games are not optimised to use more than one CPU core, so you wouldn't see a huge difference in performance combining a GTX 950m with a quadcore i7 compared to this dual core i3.



What are you talking about, the first home use quad core cpu came out close to eight years ago. Of course modern games are optimised to use them.

Gotta watch the 950m, some have GDDR5 memory but some only have DDR3 so it's a bit of a crap shoot as to which you'll get if it doesn't specify.

Can't really complain at this price with that graphics card

I needed to buy a laptop for a friend a few weeks ago and the cheapest I could find with the GTX 950m was £650. That makes this HOT HOT HOT.

only light gaming on a950m

dijital

What are you talking about, the first home use quad core cpu came out … What are you talking about, the first home use quad core cpu came out close to eight years ago. Of course modern games are optimised to use them.



Nope, game developers have been badly slacking on that. DX11 had all the tools for better multithreading (since 2009), but devs couldn't be bothered.
Only in the last 2 years, since the PS4/Xbox360 (x64 multicore with low clock speed), and DX12/Vulkan have game developers been 'forced' to get better at it, and they've still been slow in catching on.

Things are improving though, even notoriously badly-optimised long-running games like D3 & PoE have very recently been updated to fully multithreaded 64bit DX11, with enormous improvement (particularly for AMD CPU users).
You may not care about those games, but it signals a change in developers' attitudes "not multithreaded = not good enough".

I'd be tempted to rip out the DVD drive and whack an SSD in there for the OS/Steam/Whatever. Keep the 1TB as your storage dump.

In day to day use, it makes such a difference that I find non-SSD powered PC's almost unusable now ....

Good deal, people complaining about the i3 don't understand how CPU is not the major bottle neck for gaming and the i3 is very good anyway, just not for video editing or multi core work. The thing I would want to upgrade is the HDD to SSD.

GAMING laptop? X) Hahaha

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Astec123

I really cant fault this at the price. I know that CES is upcoming and … I really cant fault this at the price. I know that CES is upcoming and there's going to hopefully be a lot of change in the laptop space very soon but for the price you're getting quite a lot of computer. Yes the processor might not be the greatest thing in the world but it should work well alongside the graphics card. RAM is reasonable, decent capacity hard disk (SSD is a lot of an ask with the rest of the specs). Full HD screen is a nice feature to see but remains to be seen just how good the screens on these will be.



ssimonian

This is more true on previous gen stuff. Current gen on DX12/Vulkan/well … This is more true on previous gen stuff. Current gen on DX12/Vulkan/well programmed from 2010 onwards should support at least 2 cores in gaming. Also CPU is seriously lacking imo - low end, low voltage, u series makes you think less power for more battery life, and then they put dedicated gpu.https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3-6100U+%40+2.30GHz&id=2623To give you an idea, it runs like an i5-M series ivybridge, and paired with mechanical hdd, will prob be a bit slow.If you are gonna get this, wait until after xmas and see if it drops in price.



Again I agree with everything you just said, but for the price nothing will come close to the gaming performance you will get with this.

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dijital

What are you talking about, the first home use quad core cpu came out … What are you talking about, the first home use quad core cpu came out close to eight years ago. Of course modern games are optimised to use them.



I agree that a more powerful CPU will give better FPS, but there will be a disproportionally low increase unless the game was coded to use DX12 or Vulkan. This is because without that, games are only utilising one core effectively, hence why AMD 8 core processors are often beaten by intel i5 Quad core.

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sailo

GAMING laptop? X) Hahaha



If you are a single parent with a couple of kids who all want 'gaming laptops' this is going to be the best option, again I know something like an Alienware will be much better, but a dedicated entry class gaming GPU for £479 is the best deal around for those on a budget. It was also advertised on the Tesco website as a gaming laptop, so that's why I said it.

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treb

Ugh i3 COLD



Depending on the game you are playing, the GPU will be doing the brunt of the work. If you can find a more powerful build for under £500, be my guest.

ssimonian

This is more true on previous gen stuff. Current gen on DX12/Vulkan/well … This is more true on previous gen stuff. Current gen on DX12/Vulkan/well programmed from 2010 onwards should support at least 2 cores in gaming. Also CPU is seriously lacking imo - low end, low voltage, u series makes you think less power for more battery life, and then they put dedicated gpu.https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3-6100U+%40+2.30GHz&id=2623To give you an idea, it runs like an i5-M series ivybridge, and paired with mechanical hdd, will prob be a bit slow.If you are gonna get this, wait until after xmas and see if it drops in price.



Why do the CPU badge snobs always deride this i3 part, it's as close as makes no difference to the 5th gen i7
cpubenchmark.net/cpu…GHz

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malachi

Werid CPU to pair the GPU with.



It isn't if you think about it. For the price, they have prioritised pure FPS. The cost of an i3 with a GTX 950m would be comparable to a laptop with just a quadcore i7 and no dedicated graphics, Yet this i3-gtx 950m combo would absolutely smash a quad-core i7 with intel hd graphics in any game. Hence the term budget 'gaming laptop'.

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/acer-aspire-f15-laptop-i5-8gb-ram-128gb-ssd-4gb-nvidia-fhd-very-for-484-99-after-2574214

Much better deal...

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Darkle

Sorry but that's an antiquated view and hasn't been true for years at … Sorry but that's an antiquated view and hasn't been true for years at this point.All of the modern main engines like Unreal, Crytek and Unity 5 use multi-cores.Nearly all AAA releases this year were optimised for multicore including Forza Horizon 3, Watch Dogs 2 and BF1.Moving forward into Vulkan and DX12 multiple cores are able to address the GPU simultaneously which previously wasn't possible and cores will become a direct factor.This laptop is better than most in terms of price to gaming performance. Much better than an i7 with Intel gfx, but the i3 will struggle very quickly. i3 is aimed much more at light gaming and user duty like web browsing, HD video viewing. This doesn't mean it can't game, but pretending there would be little difference with an i5 or i7 is just misleading.



I agree there are gaming that utlise more than one core effecively, but the i3 too has more than one core, so it too wil benefit (although not as much), as other quad-core/multithreaded CPU's. I only play games like Elder Scrolls Online and World of warcraft, which are not CPU optimised. From testing a variety of games, and even though these games are meant to be 'CPU intense'(possibly due to a combination of poor optimisation and the type of game ironically), they heavily rely on the GPU. Again this build is all about price. For £479 this laptop is affordable and anyone who is willing to lower settings/resolution can have a lot of fun playing any AAA title.

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korny2

Decent price with a gtx 950m and full HD screen, cpu not the greatest for … Decent price with a gtx 950m and full HD screen, cpu not the greatest for games though probably bottleneck some games and I would replace that slow hard drive.



You can't go wrong for £479

no ssd. cold

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chrisredmayne

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/acer-aspire-f15-laptop-i5-8gb-ram-128gb-ssd-4gb-nvidia-fhd-very-for-484-99-after-2574214Much better deal...



I eyed this up myself, but you have to dick around claiming money back in the new year, so actually you are paying £584.99 and have to jump through their loop-holes etc to get your £100 back. I used to work for the now extinct Comet electrical retailers. Every warranty we sold became void after we went bust. I would always avoid deals like this where you have to claim money back. Also I know that one has an i5, but really the increase in performance, especially for gaming would be minimal, s they are both low powered dual-core CPU's, although in other scenarios the i5 could be much more useful. All in all, if that deal you posted up was straight up £484.99 rather than the ACTUAL price of 584.99 and then having to try and get some of your money back, it would be a much 'hotter' deal.

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ZeroAbbadon2

Gotta watch the 950m, some have GDDR5 memory but some only have DDR3 so … Gotta watch the 950m, some have GDDR5 memory but some only have DDR3 so it's a bit of a crap shoot as to which you'll get if it doesn't specify.



There is really not that much difference at this level. Some GTX 950m's have 4GB GDDR3 and some have 2GB GDDR5, why Nvidia do this I do not know. But from experience there is no real difference in GDDR5 and GDDR3 for this card.

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DrTraktor

no ssd. cold



Due to how cheap this laptop is, with the money you save, you can just buy one after and put it in yourself.

This is a cracking deal imo.

Yes if the processor was an i5 or i7 it would be better. Yes if if it had an SSD it would be better. Yes it I was buying a gaming laptop I would save for the several hundred more such an upgrade would entail.

Simple fact is that if I literally had only £500 to spend then this is actually is a laptop that can play today's generation of games and will probably be good for a few years worth of new releases provided you don't mind moving the detail levels down a few notches as the years go by.

Compared to some laptops that brand themselves as "gaming" which you can find for a similar price and would barely handle Solitaire at least with this you won't find yourself opening on X-mas day only to find you have a glorified typewriter

malachi

Werid CPU to pair the GPU with.



Not really - most games rely more heavily on the GPU than the CPU, it's a pretty good place to get some cost savings and the GPU isn't ultra-high end, it's pretty mid-level (maybe mid-high).

Very unusual for a laptop to skimp on the CPU to concentrate on GPU but this is by far the best gaming laptop you'll get for the money.

I'd expect 30fps on medium or better for the majority of games :http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-950M.138026.0.html

Some caveats :

Very likely the CPU will bottleneck it for some games so there will be a noticable FPS hit compared to those benchmarks.

Acer are fairly well known for low build quality.

Expect this to get very hot when gaming, you probably won't want it resting on your lap without some added insulation.

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abigsmurf

Very unusual for a laptop to skimp on the CPU to concentrate on GPU but … Very unusual for a laptop to skimp on the CPU to concentrate on GPU but this is by far the best gaming laptop you'll get for the money.I'd expect 30fps on medium or better for the majority of games :http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-950M.138026.0.htmlSome caveats :Very likely the CPU will bottleneck it for some games so there will be a noticable FPS hit compared to those benchmarks.Acer are fairly well known for low build quality.Expect this to get very hot when gaming, you probably won't want it resting on your lap without some added insulation.



The difference between a mobile dual-core i3 and mobile dual-core i5 is really not that much at all. A mobile quad-core i5 would see a more significant increase, but then you would be paying over £100 more for an extra 5FPS.

I don't see a problem with the cpu and gpu combo. Pairing it with a dual core i5 will make very little difference since the difference between the two is very small. The true 4 core+ variants cost a lot more too. The 950m isn't exactly top of the line and should work fine with the i3.

Great bang for the buck tbh.
Edited by: "Calvin01253" 19th Dec 2016

Gaming laptop is pretty much an oxymoron unless you're willing to pay 2 or 3 times as much.

For the price it's a nice bit of kit. Personally after using a SSD now for a few years i could never go back to using a hard drive so for me that lets it down more than anything else.



BOPthecop

You can't go wrong for £479



​There's plenty off laptops that don't have a gpu for that price as well as full HD so yes a bargain.

haha lol. ha
gaming laptop with a Core i3

Stone cold.

To turn this into something acceptable you would have to spend the price difference between this laptop and something with good specs, so it's in no way a deal.

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/173-msi-gl72-6qd-220-quad-core-i5-6300hq-fhd-8gb-ddr4-1tb-hdd-2gb-gtx-950m-dvdrw-mdp-hdmi-usb-30-win

If you're on a budget, get an MSI. Extremely upgradeable and you won't get some dual core CPU with no turbo boost that would struggle with office work.
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