Garden Fork & Spade set, £15 delivered @ the_tool_girl / eBay
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Garden Fork & Spade set, £15 delivered @ the_tool_girl / eBay

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Posted 29th May
Was looking for a reasonably priced set to do some work in the garden, and everything I found was either out of my price range, or out of stock. Then found this on ebay. Ordered Wednesday afternoon, delivered by 10am this morning. £15 including delivery, absolute bargain!
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TheWorthinger29/05/2020 12:33

Can you please explain how stainless tools make the work any easier?Having …Can you please explain how stainless tools make the work any easier?Having worked on hundreds of projects involving moving large amounts of earth from A to B this is one amazing piece of advice that I have never come across before: just how does this work?



Ok...

Carbon steel tools tend to be coated to prevent rust. Some (many) are covered in a kind of 'Hammerite' finish - which leads to a "golf ball" surface. This surface creates friction - i.e. the tool tends not to slide so easily into the earth. It also tends to 'hold' the earth more than the smoother, stainless steel variant which acts more like a non-stick surface. Especially when the ground is moist.

Have you never wondered why stainless steel variants usually cost more than the carbon steel ones?

Anyway, as you are a professional tool-user, I appreciate your input (minus the emoji ) but I can only comment on years of gardening and appreciating a good quality stainless steel spade! I would concede that using the word "much" was perhaps a tad melodramatic!

@asac - It's more down to the amount of less 'effort' that comes from using a decent SS tool. That's all I was implying. Take it as either advice - or a throwaway comment! Hehe.

All the best to you both, Phsy.
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I'm not going to vote but these look like carbon steel - i.e. not stainless, which means it's going to make "working" much harder. Also, you can pick up carbon steel tools like this very cheaply. I got a spade and fork from Tesco when they sold off their gardening stock for £2-£3 a pop. Got a garden rake for a couple of quid as well as other tools. Great as a back-up but if you are doing any 'serious' digging - stainless all the way. Trust me, your back will thank you!
Edited by: "Phsycronix" 29th May
Phsycronix29/05/2020 10:54

I'm not going to vote but these look like carbon steel - i.e. not …I'm not going to vote but these look like carbon steel - i.e. not stainless, which means it's going to make "working" much harder. Also, you can pick up carbon steel tools like this very cheaply. I got a spade and fork from Tesco when they sold off their gardening stock for £2-£3 a pop. Got a garden rake for a couple of quid as well as other tools. Great as a back-up but if you are doing any 'serious' digging - stainless all the way. Trust me, your back will thank you!


It's made of carbon steel. It's in the eBay description
Is this for the Fork and Spade, or just the Fork N Spade......
Do they sell Fork Handles and Hose ?
Phsycronix29/05/2020 10:54

I'm not going to vote but these look like carbon steel - i.e. not …I'm not going to vote but these look like carbon steel - i.e. not stainless, which means it's going to make "working" much harder. Also, you can pick up carbon steel tools like this very cheaply. I got a spade and fork from Tesco when they sold off their gardening stock for £2-£3 a pop. Got a garden rake for a couple of quid as well as other tools. Great as a back-up but if you are doing any 'serious' digging - stainless all the way. Trust me, your back will thank you!


Can you please explain how stainless tools make the work any easier?

Having worked on hundreds of projects involving moving large amounts of earth from A to B this is one amazing piece of advice that I have never come across before: just how does this work?

Yes, I am also eager to know why a stainless steel spade would be easier on the back!
Edited by: "asac" 29th May
TheWorthinger29/05/2020 12:33

Can you please explain how stainless tools make the work any easier?Having …Can you please explain how stainless tools make the work any easier?Having worked on hundreds of projects involving moving large amounts of earth from A to B this is one amazing piece of advice that I have never come across before: just how does this work?



Ok...

Carbon steel tools tend to be coated to prevent rust. Some (many) are covered in a kind of 'Hammerite' finish - which leads to a "golf ball" surface. This surface creates friction - i.e. the tool tends not to slide so easily into the earth. It also tends to 'hold' the earth more than the smoother, stainless steel variant which acts more like a non-stick surface. Especially when the ground is moist.

Have you never wondered why stainless steel variants usually cost more than the carbon steel ones?

Anyway, as you are a professional tool-user, I appreciate your input (minus the emoji ) but I can only comment on years of gardening and appreciating a good quality stainless steel spade! I would concede that using the word "much" was perhaps a tad melodramatic!

@asac - It's more down to the amount of less 'effort' that comes from using a decent SS tool. That's all I was implying. Take it as either advice - or a throwaway comment! Hehe.

All the best to you both, Phsy.
Phsycronix29/05/2020 13:03

Ok...Carbon steel tools tend to be coated to prevent rust. Some (many) are …Ok...Carbon steel tools tend to be coated to prevent rust. Some (many) are covered in a kind of 'Hammerite' finish - which leads to a "golf ball" surface. This surface creates friction - i.e. the tool tends not to slide so easily into the earth. It also tends to 'hold' the earth more than the smoother, stainless steel variant which acts more like a non-stick surface. Especially when the ground is moist.Have you never wondered why stainless steel variants usually cost more than the carbon steel ones? Anyway, as you are a professional tool-user, I appreciate your input (minus the emoji ) but I can only comment on years of gardening and appreciating a good quality stainless steel spade! I would concede that using the word "much" was perhaps a tad melodramatic!@asac - It's more down to the amount of less 'effort' that comes from using a decent SS tool. That's all I was implying. Take it as either advice - or a throwaway comment! Hehe.All the best to you both, Phsy.


It's just nonsense.

Stainless tools cost more because...they are made from stainless steel which is more expensive to produce.

It's also softer than carbon steel and more prone to breaking and bending because of that. Believe me if there was any truth to your claim every navvy in the country would be toting stainless steel tools. Because it's not true they don't.

And it's heavier than carbon steel by about 5%, so if you want to discuss effort that's where you should put the thought.

You can polish your stainless spade as much as you like, wet material will still stick to it. My advice: don't dig your garden when it's soaking wet.

And the emoji was well deserved, wear it with pride.
TheWorthinger29/05/2020 13:23

It's just nonsense. Stainless tools cost more because...they are made …It's just nonsense. Stainless tools cost more because...they are made from stainless steel which is more expensive to produce. It's also softer than carbon steel and more prone to breaking and bending because of that. Believe me if there was any truth to your claim every navvy in the country would be toting stainless steel tools. Because it's not true they don't.And it's heavier than carbon steel by about 5%, so if you want to discuss effort that's where you should put the thought.You can polish your stainless spade as much as you like, wet material will still stick to it. My advice: don't dig your garden when it's soaking wet.And the emoji was well deserved, wear it with pride.



I'm not sure whether I really deserve the "attack" here but I won't get into a debate about garden tools! I will just bow to your quite obvious knowledge. I will however say; having worked in agricultural retail for many, many years I can only comment on how much more popular the SS tools were. The many customers - amateur AND professional all told how they appreciated the SS over the carbon variant. Yes, SS cost more due to construction - quality ones will have taper-T ash handles but there's no disputing their low adhesion quality too.

Anyhoo, my original comment; I feel; is valid so I will stick to it. I didn't vote the OP's deal down as; for carbon; it's still an ok deal for what seems to be a shortage of gardening tools at the moment. Saying that, you can get a similar CS spade and fork from Wilko for £7 each. Also, for £20 you can get a 5-piece set (spade/fork/rake/hoe/edger) from Argos.

I guess this will have to be an "each to their own" situation.

Regards, Phsy.
Phsycronix29/05/2020 13:41

I'm not sure whether I really deserve the "attack" here but I won't get …I'm not sure whether I really deserve the "attack" here but I won't get into a debate about garden tools! I will just bow to your quite obvious knowledge. I will however say; having worked in agricultural retail for many, many years I can only comment on how much more popular the SS tools were. The many customers - amateur AND professional all told how they appreciated the SS over the carbon variant. Yes, SS cost more due to construction - quality ones will have taper-T ash handles but there's no disputing their low adhesion quality too.Anyhoo, my original comment; I feel; is valid so I will stick to it. I didn't vote the OP's deal down as; for carbon; it's still an ok deal for what seems to be a shortage of gardening tools at the moment. Saying that, you can get a similar CS spade and fork from Wilko for £7 each. Also, for £20 you can get a 5-piece set (spade/fork/rake/hoe/edger) from Argos.I guess this will have to be an "each to their own" situation. Regards, Phsy.


Correcting your misinformation is not an attack - it's a defence of those that might be naive enough to believe that what you post has some credence.
TheWorthinger29/05/2020 13:43

Correcting your misinformation is not an attack - it's a defence of those …Correcting your misinformation is not an attack - it's a defence of those that might be naive enough to believe that what you post has some credence.



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Phsycronix29/05/2020 13:47

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Shouldn’t worry about the attitude of the professional diggers Stainless all the way for me, snapped 3 Carbon steel spades & 2 forks (poo). Not lost 1 stainless steel in the line of duty yet. As with everything you get what you pay for & what You polish in the privacy of your own home is your business

I’ve seen a lot of muppetry on this site, but getting defensive & narky over a garden tool is a whole new standard. Peace & Love.
VernonH29/05/2020 14:09

Shouldn’t worry about the attitude of the professional diggers Shouldn’t worry about the attitude of the professional diggers Stainless all the way for me, snapped 3 Carbon steel spades & 2 forks (poo). Not lost 1 stainless steel in the line of duty yet. As with everything you get what you pay for & what You polish in the privacy of your own home is your business I’ve seen a lot of muppetry on this site, but getting defensive & narky over a garden tool is a whole new standard. Peace & Love.


Likewise. Guess it’s just more likely to occur where some tools are involved.
I'm sure ive seen these cheaper in Early Learning Centre
Can I use these to dig a hole 3 foot wide, 6 foot long and 6 foot deep in remote woodland.

....asking for an ex friend.....
Edited by: "trannyboy" 29th May
trannyboy29/05/2020 22:16

Can I use these to dig a hole 3 foot wide, 6 foot long and 6 foot deep in …Can I use these to dig a hole 3 foot wide, 6 foot long and 6 foot deep in remote woodland.....asking for an ex friend.....


You'd probably want a mattock... 6 feet is really deep and woodland is full of roots
Edited by: "asac" 29th May
Thanks for the advice...
.....what's the correct ratio of sand to cement when laying a new patio...
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