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Any suggestions for a budget option - I'm looking for something around £50 so I'm happy to go used. And yes, it's a low price
Why would you need that ? You can get Runtastic App which is more comprehensive for pound or two.I bet most people carry their mobile with them when cycling,so why spending so much money on obsolete technology ???It does not make any sense for me at all,you can use this money and upgrade your bike...Just a thought :]
Bought an 800 series Garmin from Amazon a couple of years ago and sent it back within 2 days. Could not see the colour screen when mounted on my bike when it was sunny outside, and the device reportedly said I was moving when I had it stationary on the kitchen table. Work that one out!
If you want a bike mounted GPS device may I suggest getting a mono screen version.
woldranger19/09/2019 22:07

Any suggestions for a budget option - I'm looking for something around £50 …Any suggestions for a budget option - I'm looking for something around £50 so I'm happy to go used. And yes, it's a low price



What do you want it to do for you? Do you need maps or just recording? Etrex 10 probably cheapest new.
woldranger19/09/2019 22:07

Any suggestions for a budget option - I'm looking for something around £50 …Any suggestions for a budget option - I'm looking for something around £50 so I'm happy to go used. And yes, it's a low price


Garmin edge 25. Very small but does loads with it, could probably fine one for 50 on ebay.
Steer clear of the 520 froze on maps screen and Garmin wanted 100 to replace as it was out of warranty seeing as it's only used for cycling and nothing else I was very dissapointed
Ajek19/09/2019 22:09

Why would you need that ? You can get Runtastic App which is more …Why would you need that ? You can get Runtastic App which is more comprehensive for pound or two.I bet most people carry their mobile with them when cycling,so why spending so much money on obsolete technology ???It does not make any sense for me at all,you can use this money and upgrade your bike...Just a thought :]


Do those phone apps support power metres and cadence sensors?

I personally think these devices are worth the money, purpose built to show cyclist all the metrics they‘d like during a ride.
Ajek19/09/2019 22:09

Why would you need that ? You can get Runtastic App which is more …Why would you need that ? You can get Runtastic App which is more comprehensive for pound or two.I bet most people carry their mobile with them when cycling,so why spending so much money on obsolete technology ???It does not make any sense for me at all,you can use this money and upgrade your bike...Just a thought :]


This might be a bad product from garmin but a bike computer these days does way more than phones can
woldranger19/09/2019 22:07

Any suggestions for a budget option - I'm looking for something around £50 …Any suggestions for a budget option - I'm looking for something around £50 so I'm happy to go used. And yes, it's a low price


might cost you a bit more than £50, but I can recommend the Edge 130, great little unit that does most of what the larger, more expensive units do.
mdentz19/09/2019 22:40

Do those phone apps support power metres and cadence sensors?I personally …Do those phone apps support power metres and cadence sensors?I personally think these devices are worth the money, purpose built to show cyclist all the metrics they‘d like during a ride.



Some phones such as my old Samsung S4 have ant+ built in so do support power meters , cadence sensors, HRM's etc.
Samsung S4 device support Ant+
Ajek19/09/2019 22:09

Why would you need that ? You can get Runtastic App which is more …Why would you need that ? You can get Runtastic App which is more comprehensive for pound or two.I bet most people carry their mobile with them when cycling,so why spending so much money on obsolete technology ???It does not make any sense for me at all,you can use this money and upgrade your bike...Just a thought :]

Depends how much excess the rider has to pay for smashing up their phone.
Msx9819/09/2019 22:37

Garmin edge 25. Very small but does loads with it, could probably fine … Garmin edge 25. Very small but does loads with it, could probably fine one for 50 on ebay.


I sold my edge 25 a few months ago for £70. It was pretty rubbish. Apart from wireless connectivity and it's size the edge 200 is far better... Standard mini USB, charger, much better battery life and can be charged whilst in use...
Edited by: "wilf1234" 19th Sep
woldranger19/09/2019 22:07

Any suggestions for a budget option - I'm looking for something around £50 …Any suggestions for a budget option - I'm looking for something around £50 so I'm happy to go used. And yes, it's a low price


I'd suggest the Garmin 500 which can be had for 40-45. and is a pretty good device if you just need recording and basic information (i.e. not power). It is better than the 25 IMO.
Edited by: "jazid" 19th Sep
richt19/09/2019 22:19

Bought an 800 series Garmin from Amazon a couple of years ago and sent it …Bought an 800 series Garmin from Amazon a couple of years ago and sent it back within 2 days. Could not see the colour screen when mounted on my bike when it was sunny outside, and the device reportedly said I was moving when I had it stationary on the kitchen table. Work that one out!If you want a bike mounted GPS device may I suggest getting a mono screen version.


Funny you should say that, when plotting a route I found only one track colour worked for me. But the instructions were clear and timely enough when navigating. Had to get the right angle on the screen to stop the screen being washed out by the reflection of the sky (think this is the same issue with the 820).
Logging movement whilst in a poor GPS location (such as inside the house) is pretty common IMO, and consistent amongst all devices, even phones IMO.

I actually prefer my 800 to my 820, as the 820 has less 8-9 hr battery life , about 2-3 hrs less than my 800.
It also is really annoying to charge in that if left to charge overnight, it seems to turn itself and then somehow discharge itself (which I don't understand - perhaps user error!). Never had such a problem with my 800.
The touch screen is laggy
Asking the Garmin to load a long course (>100 miles) whilst you have started recording a journey takes a painfully long time.

Its the convenience of the 820 that is stopping me change back:
1) bluetooth for syncing and uploading via phone
2) GPX imports via the IQ importer app (via phone)
3) IQ Apps for single page data
4) remote control compatibility - makes it much easier switching between navigation and the IQ single page data and works around the laggy screen

Routing is still best done via Strava and imported rather than on device IMO. Been taken down some very unroad bike friendly routes if left up to the Garmin to get me to my destination.
Edited by: "jazid" 19th Sep
jessiechops19/09/2019 22:39

Steer clear of the 520 froze on maps screen and Garmin wanted 100 to …Steer clear of the 520 froze on maps screen and Garmin wanted 100 to replace as it was out of warranty seeing as it's only used for cycling and nothing else I was very dissapointed


That isn't the case with every unit of the 520 just that one, though your point about the expense is valid
jessiechops19/09/2019 22:39

Steer clear of the 520 froze on maps screen and Garmin wanted 100 to …Steer clear of the 520 froze on maps screen and Garmin wanted 100 to replace as it was out of warranty seeing as it's only used for cycling and nothing else I was very dissapointed


I've had a 520 for a few years now and it's never missed a beat, you get faulty items with any product but don't really see how you can tell people to steer clear because you had problems with yours
Ajek19/09/2019 22:09

Why would you need that ? You can get Runtastic App which is more …Why would you need that ? You can get Runtastic App which is more comprehensive for pound or two.I bet most people carry their mobile with them when cycling,so why spending so much money on obsolete technology ???It does not make any sense for me at all,you can use this money and upgrade your bike...Just a thought :]


I used to use my phone but it was a PITA trying to use it for navigation - screen kept going off, cannot use the screen with gloves, nuked the battery etc.

Now got a new Garmin 820 for £150-ish and its all much easier, fine for navigation, syncs well with strava etc.

Only issue is the time taken to re-route navigation - it can take a few minutes. I think the only way around this is to spend more and buy the newer 30 series ones.
freezing7719/09/2019 22:54

Some phones such as my old Samsung S4 have ant+ built in so do support …Some phones such as my old Samsung S4 have ant+ built in so do support power meters , cadence sensors, HRM's etc.Samsung S4 device support Ant+


Going one step further, the Galaxy S5 (and Neo) is waterproof too. Replaceable battery so you could take a spare if needed. They're around £80 on Music Magpie etc, and obviously double up for calls, photos etc.

I can certainly see the benefit of dedicated cycle computers, but at this point it's mainly convenience IMO.
da_murphster20/09/2019 12:13

I used to use my phone but it was a PITA trying to use it for navigation - …I used to use my phone but it was a PITA trying to use it for navigation - screen kept going off, cannot use the screen with gloves, nuked the battery etc.Now got a new Garmin 820 for £150-ish and its all much easier, fine for navigation, syncs well with strava etc.Only issue is the time taken to re-route navigation - it can take a few minutes. I think the only way around this is to spend more and buy the newer 30 series ones.


Likewise - a phone on your handlebars is big, hard to look at, hard to switch screens, battery drains, gets hot in the sun, risk of falling off the mount (unless it's a good one), and can't deal with ANT+ sensors without a dongle. My 530 is good, and I have Dura-Ace levers which have buttons you can use to scroll through the screens (the latest Ultegra have them too).
souljacker20/09/2019 12:10

I've had a 520 for a few years now and it's never missed a beat, you get …I've had a 520 for a few years now and it's never missed a beat, you get faulty items with any product but don't really see how you can tell people to steer clear because you had problems with yours


I've had a 520 since launch and mine has been perfect as well even though it's had a hard life from being used through the winter at -10, all day ten hour rides and it's been involved in quite a few bike crashes too yet it's still working perfectly

In terms of a phone vs a dedicated GPS I find phones are not well suited to this, they can record rides fine when tucked away but then you don't get any ride data as you're going along. They can be mounted in a tough case on the handlebars but their displays are usually not good in the sun, they're not designed to run with the screen on for a long period of time, their GPS receivers tend not to be great, they take up a lot of space on the bars and I wouldn't fancy their chances in a heavy impact.
woldranger19/09/2019 22:07

Any suggestions for a budget option - I'm looking for something around £50 …Any suggestions for a budget option - I'm looking for something around £50 so I'm happy to go used. And yes, it's a low price


Wahoo elemnt mini is £79 new and comes with a bluetooth/ant+ speed sensor.

Budget option is to record the ride on your phone while having it in your pocket and using a cheap non GPS cycle computer on your bars to look at for speed and distance as you ride along; something like the VDO m1.1 is about £15 new on ebay or the m2.1 is £19
I think I'm in the smartphone camp on this one. You can get a waterproof, ANT+ smartphone with perfectly adequate GPS for considerably less than £150 and it's going to be able to do pretty much everything this cycle computer can do, plus a lot more.
This 820 has maps and while phones do to they can't automatically switch from map back to stats like this can. I'm not saying the phone idea isn't a good one but this is clearly made for cycling and accommodates all the needs for it. Unless someone can show me an app that will show the map screen when a turn comes up and then revert I'll stick with this. Plus these screens are easier to read in sunlight...
ktrizzle20/09/2019 15:57

I think I'm in the smartphone camp on this one. You can get a waterproof, …I think I'm in the smartphone camp on this one. You can get a waterproof, ANT+ smartphone with perfectly adequate GPS for considerably less than £150 and it's going to be able to do pretty much everything this cycle computer can do, plus a lot more.



See how many people have gone back to a phone after using a dedicated bike computer - won't be many.

Being able to use the screen with gloves on and have physical buttons makes a massive difference.
price matched at Halfords
toad67920/09/2019 21:22

price matched at Halfords


Also if you're a British cycling member 10% discount
Seem to be loads of these on ebay around 115 quid, could be end of the line stuff but many seem to be new.
da_murphster20/09/2019 17:25

See how many people have gone back to a phone after using a dedicated bike …See how many people have gone back to a phone after using a dedicated bike computer - won't be many.Being able to use the screen with gloves on and have physical buttons makes a massive difference.



I would guess it's approximately 0 people. One is optimised in every way for the task, the other isn't.
Msx9820/09/2019 06:13

That isn't the case with every unit of the 520 just that one, though your …That isn't the case with every unit of the 520 just that one, though your point about the expense is valid


Agreed and in retrospect I would say potentially I just ended up with a dud unit . The Garmin in my experience should have lasted longer than just over 2 years with light use, it's a product I thought would last longer due to its price point , however I enjoyed using it whilst it lasted and do miss it not being on my rides .
souljacker20/09/2019 12:10

I've had a 520 for a few years now and it's never missed a beat, you get …I've had a 520 for a few years now and it's never missed a beat, you get faulty items with any product but don't really see how you can tell people to steer clear because you had problems with yours


I agree Steer Clear is a bit strong a sentiment and would probably change my evaluation . However I think the unit completely packing up after just over 2 years is not really good . I'm sure many riders have including myself enjoy using the unit , but it is an expensive piece of equipment to purchase only for it to fail just outside the warranty period . I'm sure your positive experience will have countered my Steer Clear comment and gave users a positive experience of the Garmin range
Old technology, like almost a decade old...
Apps is the way to go. You can get a cycle mount for a fiver, hook up your phone with Runtastic or whatever and get better, more detailed views and stats.

Garmin are the Nokia of the Cycling GPS, they just never evolved
Sharpharp24/09/2019 09:42

Old technology, like almost a decade old...Apps is the way to go. You can …Old technology, like almost a decade old...Apps is the way to go. You can get a cycle mount for a fiver, hook up your phone with Runtastic or whatever and get better, more detailed views and stats.Garmin are the Nokia of the Cycling GPS, they just never evolved


Always amazes me how people compare using a mobile phone to a dedicated cycle computer, for the average user possibly, but people like myself a phone doesn't come close and I certainly wouldn't put an expensive phone on my MTB handlebars
souljacker24/09/2019 13:55

Always amazes me how people compare using a mobile phone to a dedicated …Always amazes me how people compare using a mobile phone to a dedicated cycle computer, for the average user possibly, but people like myself a phone doesn't come close and I certainly wouldn't put an expensive phone on my MTB handlebars



It always amazes me just how many people are completely inept with changing their attitudes and moving with the times.
You can pick up a used Android phone for £10 which will happily run a mapping App without lag and save yourself £140

You could easily have your Garmin 820 nicked from your handlebars....

Now think about it and come to your senses...

Sharpharp24/09/2019 21:33

It always amazes me just how many people are completely inept with …It always amazes me just how many people are completely inept with changing their attitudes and moving with the times.You can pick up a used Android phone for £10 which will happily run a mapping App without lag and save yourself £140You could easily have your Garmin 820 nicked from your handlebars.... Now think about it and come to your senses...


Yeah I'm sure a £10 android phone would do exactly th same as a Garmin a Garmin would link to a power meter, hear rate strap and cadence sensors, and have a battery that would last for hours, GPS is proven to be far more accurate on a Garmin than high end iPhones, never mind your £10 android, which I'm pretty sure won't be waterproof either

Sorry but you obviously only use your bike to go to the shops or follow a map for an hour or so if you think a phone can compare to a dedicated bike computer

People like myself who do 6-7 hour rides and use a lot of the data a bike computer can provide do not need to change attitudes, bike computers are way ahead of phones for the data and accuracy, as well as battery life


Oh and how exactly is my quick release Garmin going to be nicked from my bike??? I never leave my bikes alone ever they are worth a lot of money and I certainly wouldn't leave my Garmin on it
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souljacker24/09/2019 22:33

Yeah I'm sure a £10 android phone would do exactly th same as a Garmin Yeah I'm sure a £10 android phone would do exactly th same as a Garmin a Garmin would link to a power meter, hear rate strap and cadence sensors, and have a battery that would last for hours, GPS is proven to be far more accurate on a Garmin than high end iPhones, never mind your £10 android, which I'm pretty sure won't be waterproof eitherSorry but you obviously only use your bike to go to the shops or follow a map for an hour or so if you think a phone can compare to a dedicated bike computerPeople like myself who do 6-7 hour rides and use a lot of the data a bike computer can provide do not need to change attitudes, bike computers are way ahead of phones for the data and accuracy, as well as battery lifeOh and how exactly is my quick release Garmin going to be nicked from my bike??? I never leave my bikes alone ever they are worth a lot of money and I certainly wouldn't leave my Garmin on it



Fairly obvious response which is expected from a Garmin owner who is upset at being told the truth.
You still living in the 80s by the sounds of it, allow me to bring you forward a couple of decades...

Any throwaway android phone uses the GPS fix methods as Garmin, no difference at all, so stop trying to justify your overpriced purchase.

Apps can handle all the data you want and can easily be connected to Polar chip, hrm and cadence sensors much easily and cheaper than Garmin dedicated nonsense.

Phones also last way longer than Garmin, ask someone IT literate to google "Powerbank".... amazing isn't it, you can go all day and then some on the phone battery and battery backup.... Can the Garmin do that?... Hell no

There is nothing stopping a thief nicking a £170 garmin from a weedy cyclist when its on the handlebars, a £10 phone isn't going to matter, also most phones are IP67 rated, again isn't that something.

Dropping knowledge, now digest and appreciate the free advice
Edited by: "Sharpharp" 25th Sep
It gets better, now not only are you saying a bulky £10 phone will be ok on the handlebars and do exactly the same as a Garmin you are now attaching a power bank to it brilliant, why haven't I thought of that

Oh and by the way, if you wanted to you could connect a power bank to a garmin but there is no need to, the battery lasts, unlike the phone .

I'm done, you stick to your phone and your trips to the shop on your bike
woldranger19/09/2019 22:07

Any suggestions for a budget option - I'm looking for something around £50 …Any suggestions for a budget option - I'm looking for something around £50 so I'm happy to go used. And yes, it's a low price


Recently bought Garmin Edge Touring for £65 from ebay. Saw it going for cheaper...
Ajek19/09/2019 22:09

Why would you need that ? You can get Runtastic App which is more …Why would you need that ? You can get Runtastic App which is more comprehensive for pound or two.I bet most people carry their mobile with them when cycling,so why spending so much money on obsolete technology ???It does not make any sense for me at all,you can use this money and upgrade your bike...Just a thought :]


youve obviously never ridden a bike
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