Gateway ML6227B Laptop Celeron M 1.6GHz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HDD, DVDRW, Vista Home Premium
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Gateway ML6227B Laptop Celeron M 1.6GHz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HDD, DVDRW, Vista Home Premium

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Found 21st Feb 2008Made hot 21st Feb 2008
As the title suggests, although this is a refurbished product, it still comes with a 12 mth collect and return warranty, and Vista Home Premium.

Model: Gateway ML6227B
Operating System: MS Windows Vista Home Premium
Processor / Type: Celeron M
Processor / Clock Speed: 1.6 GHz
RAM / Installed Size: 1 GB
RAM / Technology: DDR II SDRAM
Memory Clock Speed: 667 MHz
Storage Hard Drive / Capacity: 80 GB
Storage Hard Drive / Interface Type: SATA
Display (Projector) / Diagonal Size (inches): 15.4
Screen Type: WXGA
Optical Drive: DVD±RW
Drive Type: Integrated
Audio: On board
Video Memory / Installed Size: N/A
Video Output / Interface Type: TV-Out
Graphics: On board Intel
Networking / Type: Ethernet
Networking / Data Link Protocol: Adapter on Board
Modem / Type: 56k
USB: 3
Serial Port: 0
PCMCIA free: 1
Keyboard: UK
DIM used: 2
DIM free: 0
Mini Wireless PCI LAN: BG
Card Reader: 4in1


Warranty 1 year collect and return

24 Comments

i didn't think gateway were still in operational i thought they went bust along with time and tiny

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megaceller;1612298

i didn't think gateway were still in operational i thought they went bust … i didn't think gateway were still in operational i thought they went bust along with time and tiny



Doesn't make any difference, you still have the warranty, not a top spec machine but if your on a budget there isn't many more knocking about at this price.

megaceller;1612298

i didn't think gateway were still in operational i thought they went bust … i didn't think gateway were still in operational i thought they went bust along with time and tiny



uk.gateway.com/

Decent spec for the price, good for those with basic needs on a budget (although not as good as the dell I got for £226 ).

Heat added :thumbsup:

megaceller;1612298

i didn't think gateway were still in operational i thought they went bust … i didn't think gateway were still in operational i thought they went bust along with time and tiny



Gateway are still alive and well. Part of the company that make emachines.

Great price for a basic machine. Nice that it has Vista Premium and not Basic but it will surely struggle to run any of the bells and whistles that Premium offers.

Great budget deal. Pay by credit card though!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Celerons run pretty cool these days. Dual Core is better and cooler if you have the extra few pound.
Blame Intel for this. They turned off the speed stepping on Celerons to price higher the Core 2 Duo models.(and Pentium M historically)
Wth speed stepping not being castrated too many people would prefer Celeons to Core 2's for their price/performance ratio.

These Celeron machines keep popping up on HUKD. I mean, sure it's not much for a laptop, but celeron processors (known in the industry as 'celery' processors, as they're about that useful in your computer) are terrible. They're terrible trying to run XP and even struggle with Windows 2k if you try and do anything remotely strenuous. I can't begin to imagine how much they must struggle running Vista!

They're pretty much guaranteed to screw up too because Celeron is just not designed to be inside tiny laptops with lower ventilation. They overheat enough on desktops as it is.

I would save the extra £50 and get one from Dell or something.

mike_freegan;1613323

These Celeron machines keep popping up on HUKD. I mean, sure it's not … These Celeron machines keep popping up on HUKD. I mean, sure it's not much for a laptop, but celeron processors (known in the industry as 'celery' processors, as they're about that useful in your computer) are terrible. They're terrible trying to run XP and even struggle with Windows 2k if you try and do anything remotely strenuous. I can't begin to imagine how much they must struggle running Vista!They're pretty much guaranteed to screw up too because Celeron is just not designed to be inside tiny laptops with lower ventilation. They overheat enough on desktops as it is.I would save the extra £50 and get one from Dell or something.



You can't compare the overheating issues with a desktop because this is a Celeron M. M stands for Mobile and it is "optimised" for mobile operation.

tomgibbes;1613338

You can't compare the overheating issues with a desktop because this is a … You can't compare the overheating issues with a desktop because this is a Celeron M. M stands for Mobile and it is "optimised" for mobile operation.



Not really - Dropping a couple of GHZ and writing an 'M' next to the logo doesn't constitute much of a change. They're equally terrible. I have owned one and it had to go back. My family run a computer business, and refuse to stock any laptops that use Celeron because the performance is so low and the return rate is so high. They are truly awful.

My GF's laptop has one and smells like scalextric, i.e. burning plastic/rubber all the time because it gets so hot in there, and the fan is almost never off. It is almost literally like burning money.

Also, as they ARE basically a desktop processor, they are not geared for battery life. You would be lucky to get 45minutes - 1 hour out of them, which is useless if your meetings/lectures last more than an hour.

Further, don't rely on the printed speed of a processor alone. A 3GHz Celeron will not perform as well as say a 2Ghz Pentuium 4 Mobile, or a 1.5Ghz Centrino. It is not recommended to run Vista on less than a fairly high spec dual processor, so I wouldn't even bother with a low-spec single core one.

As I said, this is a good price for a computer, but isn't really a 'good deal' imho as it's essentially money down the toilet. The extra £50 to get a Centrino computer would go a long way. I don't mean this to come across as nasty, but I know a lot of people, especially new-buyers won't spot these issues (like I didn't the first time!)

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why get this when you can pay 50 quid extra for a brnad new dell with double the specs? it is not worth getting a lemon for the sake of saving 50 quid.

either that Mike or the fact that your family can't compete in the low price market.

The fastest Celeron M's have a maximum TDP of 30 watts. They run suitably cool in a decent chassis.
You can even get a ULV one thats only 5 watts!!!!!!!!!! The new upcoming 45nm LV Celeron Ms without the dirty Celeron 'tag' will probably run without a fan!!!!!!!!!!!

The Celeron M540 actually runs a lot faster than the 1.8 Pentium M with it being Core 2 arcitecture. It beats a Pentium 4 2.8 as well.
en.wikipedia.org/wik…n_M

mike_freegan;1613397

Not really - Dropping a couple of GHZ and writing an 'M' next to the logo … Not really - Dropping a couple of GHZ and writing an 'M' next to the logo doesn't constitute much of a change. They're equally terrible. I have owned one and it had to go back. My family run a computer business, and refuse to stock any laptops that use Celeron because the performance is so low and the return rate is so high. They are truly awful. My GF's laptop has one and smells like scalextric, i.e. burning plastic/rubber all the time because it gets so hot in there, and the fan is almost never off. It is almost literally like burning money.Also, as they ARE basically a desktop processor, they are not geared for battery life. You would be lucky to get 45minutes - 1 hour out of them, which is useless if your meetings/lectures last more than an hour.Further, don't rely on the printed speed of a processor alone. A 3GHz Celeron will not perform as well as say a 2Ghz Pentuium 4 Mobile, or a 1.5Ghz Centrino. It is not recommended to run Vista on less than a fairly high spec dual processor, so I wouldn't even bother with a low-spec single core one.As I said, this is a good price for a computer, but isn't really a 'good deal' imho as it's essentially money down the toilet. The extra £50 to get a Centrino computer would go a long way. I don't mean this to come across as nasty, but I know a lot of people, especially new-buyers won't spot these issues (like I didn't the first time!)



I agree that this probably isnt the best deal around.

But I think you might be a bit outdated in terms of your preception of Celeron CPUs.

The new Celerons are based on Core / Core 2 architecture. They are on the same platform as the Intel's higher end range rather than really old ones like they used to. They are cut down versions, with 1 core enabled and lesser FSB/Cache. With Celerons you get a very high clockspeed for what you pay for so for single threaded applications they can match the Core range that are clocked lower.

Celerons are probably not worth it since Pentium Dual Core are pretty cheap anyway - but nowadays they are not as bad as you make it sound. Perfectly capable for standard tasks. :thumbsup:

Hmmm, the thing about refurbs is they are returns....ask yourself why, especially if plentiful supply....
It is cheap and the spec reflects that, 12 months warranty so they have faith it isn't going to break down, whether it is any good with Vista Premium is a whole other matter.
Voted warm....

mike_freegan;1613397

Not really - Dropping a couple of GHZ and writing an 'M' next to the logo … Not really - Dropping a couple of GHZ and writing an 'M' next to the logo doesn't constitute much of a change. They're equally terrible. I have owned one and it had to go back. My family run a computer business, and refuse to stock any laptops that use Celeron because the performance is so low and the return rate is so high. They are truly awful. My GF's laptop has one and smells like scalextric, i.e. burning plastic/rubber all the time because it gets so hot in there, and the fan is almost never off. It is almost literally like burning money.Also, as they ARE basically a desktop processor, they are not geared for battery life. You would be lucky to get 45minutes - 1 hour out of them, which is useless if your meetings/lectures last more than an hour.Further, don't rely on the printed speed of a processor alone. A 3GHz Celeron will not perform as well as say a 2Ghz Pentuium 4 Mobile, or a 1.5Ghz Centrino. It is not recommended to run Vista on less than a fairly high spec dual processor, so I wouldn't even bother with a low-spec single core one.As I said, this is a good price for a computer, but isn't really a 'good deal' imho as it's essentially money down the toilet. The extra £50 to get a Centrino computer would go a long way. I don't mean this to come across as nasty, but I know a lot of people, especially new-buyers won't spot these issues (like I didn't the first time!)



This particular celeron m is not a desktop part. Those bad Celerons you are speaking of were stripped down pentium 4's (netburst architecture - which was already weak enough without further stripping cache and lower fsb on it).

This particular Celeron-M in this laptop is based off the Pentium-M centrino part. It offers nearly the performance of a Pentium-M with speed stepping disabled and half the cache. So battery life is a little bit less. But it is not a desktop processor. The lack of speed step means it does run at it's rated 1.6ghz speed all the time, whereas 'Centrino' pentium-m parts clock down when not in use to conserve battery life. What actually happens a lot is laptops being sold with half the battery capacity and a Celeron processor for the value segment of the market, leading to really short battery life.

In short, this laptop isn't a 'bad' deal, but it's neither a great one too. Good if you are 'really' needing to cut back on a few pounds. But the Dell Vostro 1500s look a much better spec and brand new for not much more money.

Not all celerons are bad, in particular the ones currently cropping up around here are not what this guy is talking about. Although, I personally would always spend that little bit extra to get the core2duo processor.

Agree with many of the statements made previously about modern celeron m CPU architecture, and how it's related more closely to the core 2 family than the old desktop celerons. These offer very good performance for the budget concious. There are some very ill-informed people regurgitating information that is simply untrue.

As a laptop, gateways are built very solidly, and the difference in quality between this chassis and something like the dell vostro 1000 is tangible.

Someone requiring a well-built, easy-on-the-eye laptop for everyday computing tasks couldn't do much better in my opinion.

I had no idea Celeron did dual core now. I completely lost all enthusiasm for them a couple of years ago. Still wouldn't touch it with a barge-pole though :P

mike_freegan;1613323

These Celeron machines keep popping up on HUKD. I mean, sure it's not … These Celeron machines keep popping up on HUKD. I mean, sure it's not much for a laptop, but celeron processors (known in the industry as 'celery' processors, as they're about that useful in your computer) are terrible. They're terrible trying to run XP and even struggle with Windows 2k if you try and do anything remotely strenuous. I can't begin to imagine how much they must struggle running Vista!They're pretty much guaranteed to screw up too because Celeron is just not designed to be inside tiny laptops with lower ventilation. They overheat enough on desktops as it is.I would save the extra £50 and get one from Dell or something.



I have to agree that celerons are pretty shocking and i would never ever buy one ever!

But credit for the find

upgrade to 2GB and you will have a reasonable machine. No drivers for XP on the web site therfore voted warm (with Windows XP you would have a faster notebook).

Intel are totally abandoning the name Celeron. (at least with laptops)

Its is quite obvious as to why that is even though the Celeron M 1.86 is actually rated far faster than a Pentium 4 3.6 GHZ.

An excellent budget buy for those strapped for cash.

While the modern CPUs are good, I have no idea why they continue with the celeron name. Intel killed off any credibility it may have built up with the awful desktop netburst based celeron and celeron d cpus.

dark_like_vader;1613726

I have to agree that celerons are pretty shocking and i would never ever … I have to agree that celerons are pretty shocking and i would never ever buy one ever!But credit for the find



One can see that Intel has done a pretty damn good job in marketing terms. The Celeron that comes with this laptop is based on the Core platform which is completely different.

Also Celeron tends to be sold with all sort of ****** specs : low mem, integrated motherboards, asthmatic hard drives etc, which made the whole computing experience feel like sh*t.

This is a Celeron M 520, not the infamous Celeron D. Don't judge it by its cover.
Check its specs on Wikipedia. en.wikipedia.org/wik…ron and
en.wikipedia.org/wik…ors

I have had nothing but good experiences with the Celeron, since the Celeron 300A which could be overclocked to 450MHz...

Can someone please tell me how this post is allowed when my bigpockets post was deleted the other day because "hotukdeals are having issues with bigpockets".

i wasn't dismissing the deal or complaining about it as i voted it hot, i just din't know they were still in buisness but if they're the people who now make e-machines their doing a good job as i have a bunch of friends with e-machines who never have any problems
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